Teaching Gay History in California

Jul 9, 2011 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: EDGE

California lawmakers on Tuesday sent the governor a bill that would make the state the first requiring public schools to include the contributions of gays and lesbians in social studies curriculum.

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99.9% of the world's population have other things to worry about, and doesn't care if you live or die, get married, are beaten to death, catch AIDS, or live happily ever after. They just don't like you constantly whining about it all day, every day.
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That link is to a far left Pro-Homosexual website which is supported by homosexuals! That's about one step below UC/DAVIS
Not Yet Equal wrote:
"At times throughout history, same-sex relationships have enjoyed relative freedom within their respective places.
Evidence exists that same-sex marriages were tolerated in parts of Mesopotamia and ancient Egypt. Artifacts from Egypt, for example, show that same-sex relationships not only existed, but the discovery of a pharaonic tomb for such a couple shows their union was recognized by the kingdom. Meanwhile, accounts of the Israelites' departure for Canaan include their condemnation of Egyptian acceptance of same-sex practice. In actuality, same-sex marital practices and rituals are less known in Egypt compared to Mesopotamia, where documents exist for a variety of marital practices, including male lovers of kings and polyandry. None of the recorded laws of Mesopotamia, including the Code of Hammurabi, contain restrictions against same-sex unions despite the fact that marriages are otherwise well regulated. "
http://www.randomhistory.com/history-of-gay-m...
A book by the Dominican missionary and Prior, Jacques Goar (1601-1653), includes same sex ceremonies in a printed collection of Greek Orthodox prayer books,“Euchologion Sive Rituale Graecorum Complectens Ritus Et Ordines Divinae Liturgiae”(Paris, 1667).
Another book by Gerald of Wales (‘Geraldus Cambrensis’) recorded same gender Christian sanctified unions also took place in Ireland in the late 12th and early 13th centuries.
"Historical evidence, including legal documents and gravesites, can be interpreted as supporting the prevalence of homosexual relationships hundreds of years ago, said Allan Tulchin of Shippensburg University in Pennsylvania.
Gay Marriage Is As Old As History www.gaychristian101.com/Gay-Marriage.html
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DEFENDING INNOCENCE

Grooming kids in a 'gay' identity

Published: 07/15/2012 at 2:39 PM

Yet we have turned a blind eye to the same betrayal happening every day to thousands of children in our schools and communities. We should be outraged at the routine “grooming” of children in our schools to become victims of homosexual pedophilia. How are our kids being blithely set up to accept victimization when it happens?

It happens by calling it something other than what it is and by tying it up in a bow and putting a happy, rainbow face on it. The “nice” name for this horrifying manipulation is “tolerance.” Now, even grade-school children are learning that only hateful people object when any elementary-schooler, middle-schooler or high-school student adopts a “gay” identity.

And, here’s the seldom-examined corollary: The activists pushing this give many unchallenged messages to these kids, both in schools and outside, that they not only may, but they have a right to “choose” a same-sex partner of any age. With no fear of pregnancy, this faux “consent” offer can be extended to younger and younger kids.

So, the engraved invitation has been sent to untold numbers of pedophiles and pederasts. School “non-discrimination” policies on “sexual orientation” keep that door open and all protectors of children at arm’s length. The National Education Association has numerous policies supporting the “safe”(read: unchallenged) expression of homosexual behavior by children in schools. These are often pushed by its “GLBT” Teachers’ Caucus.

Schools feel the increasing presence, whether they like it or not, of advocacy groups like the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network, or GLSEN, and the Human Rights Campaign. The newest campaigns of both these groups is to reach elementary students. If we cooperate, it’s easy for some children to become targets.

Adults may approach them, and they won’t realize it’s not only outrageous, but illegal. It may be a coach or assistant coach. It may be the college student who was the invited speaker at your school’s “gay-straight alliance” meeting. It may be a 24 year old you met as a 12 year old when your school’s homosexual club marched in the town’s pride parade, carrying the school banner to support “LGBT” youth.

No one will draw boundaries that used to be clear. Why? New regulatory permission has been accepted by those who have bought the lie that people are born this way. There’s also fear of the real possibility of being labeled a “homophobe” or much worse: receiving death threats, losing one’s job and being put on an official enemies’ list by the Southern Poverty Law Center or others.(All these things now happen routinely.) The straight, male dads, granddads and protectors of our youth have been lulled into submission by a vicious and unaccountable “gay” lobby with a track record of tearing the personal lives of opponents apart.

The aggressors have leftist judges on their side, a complicit media, Hollywood, the teachers’ unions, even the federal Department of Education under its misleading “anti-bullying” programs. Those who point to the pro-homosexual nature of these recommendations are falsely impugned as being “pro-bullying.”

And, of course, there’s Barack Obama, who appointed Kevin Jennings, founder of GLSEN, to a high position in the Department of Education. Jennings left last year, but his deceptive legacy continues. Also, the pedophile lobby is trying to establish credibility and its own “rights” campaign, including the delusion that children are not necessarily harmed by adult sexual contact.

It goes beyond schools. The Boy Scouts have stood firmly to keep open homosexuals from becoming leaders, to minimize the chances of this happening, although it now has one board member pressuring the group to drop this protection. The Girl Scouts are not so kind. They are active proponents of “LGBT” identity politics and allow open homosexuals to lead local girl groups.
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And we complain about Penn State? The unreported molestations facilitated daily by the “gay” lobby’s insistence on access to children must surely dwarf anything done by Jerry Sandusky, horrific as his actions were.

One of the most troubling and unchallenged trends is the growing number of community-based “gay” groups for youth. Virtually every large town has at least one now, and they pride themselves on “confidential” services. This means parent-free access to kids as young as 11 or 12, who are allowed to socialize with older youth and adult homosexuals and then leave the premises to continue whatever grooming activity took place on site.

One former attendee has publicized what went on at his group in Maine, including predatory behavior by adults. Now, five years later, this young man wants to recant his story and is even suing one brave pro-family leader, Brian Camenker, who refuses to take the previously offered testimony down from the Mass Resistance website. Why? Because it’s critical to get the truth about these centers out to the public.

Over the years, I have heard tales of sex between kids in the restrooms, drug use and, of course, access to porn on computers. There are also accounts of teen-adult “hook-ups” in some nonfiction books published for “gay” youth.

Yet many of these centers are the off-site gathering places for local middle- and high-school “gay-straight alliance” kids and sometimes receive funding from reputable groups like the United Way and Kiwanis.

As bad as heterosexual molestation is, it isn’t being packaged as the natural outgrowth of a “right,” an element of “social justice.” Same-sex molestation has always been easier to facilitate in venues for children, since children and adults of the same sex do sometimes use the same restrooms, go on camp outs and – as we saw with Sandusky – shower in the same facilities. Access is easier, and the blind eye we are turning due to the repositioning of truth by the “gay” lobby is making the risk greater than ever.

What’s the answer? Recapture our once clear sense of judgment about the immorality of all homosexual behavior and stop promoting sexual activity to kids, period. Until we do that, we will continue to have school-enabled, adult-ignored homosexual seduction and the despair it is producing in vulnerable, precious kids every single day in America.

If we fail to act, we are all Graham Spaniers now.
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Thanks for the info!
Nevada Smith wrote:
And we complain about Penn State? The unreported molestations facilitated daily by the “gay” lobby’s insistence on access to children must surely dwarf anything done by Jerry Sandusky, horrific as his actions were.
One of the most troubling and unchallenged trends is the growing number of community-based “gay” groups for youth. Virtually every large town has at least one now, and they pride themselves on “confidential” services. This means parent-free access to kids as young as 11 or 12, who are allowed to socialize with older youth and adult homosexuals and then leave the premises to continue whatever grooming activity took place on site.
One former attendee has publicized what went on at his group in Maine, including predatory behavior by adults. Now, five years later, this young man wants to recant his story and is even suing one brave pro-family leader, Brian Camenker, who refuses to take the previously offered testimony down from the Mass Resistance website. Why? Because it’s critical to get the truth about these centers out to the public.
Over the years, I have heard tales of sex between kids in the restrooms, drug use and, of course, access to porn on computers. There are also accounts of teen-adult “hook-ups” in some nonfiction books published for “gay” youth.
Yet many of these centers are the off-site gathering places for local middle- and high-school “gay-straight alliance” kids and sometimes receive funding from reputable groups like the United Way and Kiwanis.
As bad as heterosexual molestation is, it isn’t being packaged as the natural outgrowth of a “right,” an element of “social justice.” Same-sex molestation has always been easier to facilitate in venues for children, since children and adults of the same sex do sometimes use the same restrooms, go on camp outs and – as we saw with Sandusky – shower in the same facilities. Access is easier, and the blind eye we are turning due to the repositioning of truth by the “gay” lobby is making the risk greater than ever.
What’s the answer? Recapture our once clear sense of judgment about the immorality of all homosexual behavior and stop promoting sexual activity to kids, period. Until we do that, we will continue to have school-enabled, adult-ignored homosexual seduction and the despair it is producing in vulnerable, precious kids every single day in America.
If we fail to act, we are all Graham Spaniers now.

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Same old irrational fear mongering.

We know child abuse is harmful. Accepting that gay people exist will not change that, just as accepting that straight people exist will not increase child abuse.

When faced with no rational argument, cry: "What about the CHILDREN!!!"

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Joe Balls wrote:
99.9% of the world's population have other things to worry about, and doesn't care if you live or die, get married, are beaten to death, or live happily ever after. They just don't like you constantly whining about it all day, every day.
Then why do so many spend so much time and money trying to prevent gay people from having the same rights they currently enjoy?

When those opposed to equal rights stop trying to harm gay people through denial of equality as well as through laws intended to harm, you will stop hearing about it. But as long as the unnecessary harm continues, you can expect to hear about it from those being harmed, from those who care about them, and those who care about liberty and justice for ALL.

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Not Yet Equal wrote:
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Then why do so many spend so much time and money trying to prevent gay people from having the same rights they currently enjoy?
When those opposed to equal rights stop trying to harm gay people through denial of equality as well as through laws intended to harm, you will stop hearing about it. But as long as the unnecessary harm continues, you can expect to hear about it from those being harmed, from those who care about them, and those who care about liberty and justice for ALL.
You mean "special rights," don't you? I've never witnessed a gay person being denied their civil rights.

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How could you? When you're not hiding behind a fake name and location you're no doubt hiding behind trees, bushes or buildings.
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<quoted text> You mean "special rights," don't you? I've never witnessed a gay person being denied their civil rights.

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TomInElPaso wrote:
How could you? When you're not hiding behind a fake name and location you're no doubt hiding behind trees, bushes or buildings.
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LOL, and YOUR real name is TOM IN EL PASO?

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Brenda Lee Johnson wrote:
You dodged every question asked,ignored the consequences and replied with babble. In order for marriage to be segregated it would have to be refined! But refined as what? Who decides?
Marriage was male/female when your mother and father created your life; that's refined enough. There is no gender equality right in the US Constitution; our laws recognize human nature of male/female sexual differentiation.

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I had thought you were objective but you are nothing of the sort. You seem big on the Pro-Homosexual talking points.
Nobody is objective; we all see the world through our own knowledge and experience.

There's nothing wrong with homosexuals or homosexuality but that's no reason to radically redefine the fundamental institution of marriage.

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Brenda Lee Johnson wrote:
Gays have nothing in common with black civil rights. It takes a dam fool to try and make such of a twisted comparison.
I've never claimed same sex marriage is like civil rights; just the opposite. Changing the definition of marriage to satisfy sexual predilection is a special right not given in our Constitution.

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The Lone Gunmen wrote:
Yes, tell us how black people integrating with white people leads to disease. Are Gay people discriminated against if no one knows their Gay? Black People can't hide their color!
^^I agree completely.

Same sex marriage would change the gender integrated institution of marriage to create a sinister new gender apartheid marriage. Down with segregation; if you like diversity keep marriage male/female.
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youtube.com/watch... …whats so important about the History? so what?

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Yes to both. I have a middle name for a reason.

In your case you have nothing related to balls.
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LOL, and YOUR real name is TOM IN EL PASO?
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How could you? When you're not hiding behind a fake name and location you're no doubt hiding behind trees, bushes or buildings.
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Whine whine whine!

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Gender segregation marriage is a step backward for civilization. Same sex marriage is like returning to antebellum morality.
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Here you go Horatio!

There is no more debate, the courts have ruled Gender Identity is a mental disorder!

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Judge orders Mass. to pay for inmate’s sex-change surgery

In the first decision of its kind, a federal judge has ordered state officials to provide a taxpayer-funded sex-change for a transsexual prisoner, after finding that the treatment is the only adequate care for the inmate’s gender identity disorder.

District Court Chief Judge Mark L. Wolf said that the treatment for Michelle Kosilek, convicted of murder, had been prescribed by Department of Correction doctors. He said the only arguments for denying it were based on social bias against that type of surgery.

“This fact that sex reassignment surgery is for some people medically necessary has recently become more widely recognized,” Wolf wrote in a landmark 127-page ruling Tuesday.“Denying adequate medical care because of a fear of controversy or criticism from politicians, the press, and the public serves no legitimate penological purpose. It is precisely the type of conduct the Eighth Amendment prohibits.”

Kosilek, now in her early 60s, was born Robert Kosilek, but by 1990 was transitioning to a female identity. She strangled her wife, Cheryl, in Mansfield that year.
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6/13/00 | McGrory: A test case for a change

During her trial, Kosilek wore women’s clothes and has legally changed her first name to Michelle. She has been staying in a men’s prison in Norfolk while taking hormones and developing female physical qualities. Under Globe policy, Kosilek is being referred to as a woman because that is the gender with which she identifies.

The judge did not say who should perform the surgery or where it should be conducted, leaving those decisions to state officials. The cost of the surgery ranges from $7,000 to more than $50,000, depending on the extent of cosmetic work, according to informational surgery and transgender websites.

It was not clear how much postsurgery care would have to be provided, though the state would bear that cost as well.

Wolf’s decision is the first time a judge has ruled that the sex change was necessary for a prisoner suffering from gender identity disorder, though it follows a series of rulings in Massachusetts and across the country that have affirmed that some type of medical care is constitutionally required.

Last year, the US Court of Appeals for the First Circuit, the appellate court for much of New England, upheld a lower court decision ordering hormone treatment for a prisoner with gender identity disorder. Also last year, the US Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit struck down a Wisconsin law that prevented hormone treatment for inmates with the disorder.

Moreover, the US Tax Court in 2010 held that the costs of feminizing hormones and sex reassignment surgery for certain individuals were tax deductible, as they were necessary forms of medical care.

In Kosilek’s case, the care she has already received has been unsuccessful, she argued in court documents. When the case was first filed a decade ago, Wolf had ruled that treatment was necessary but stopped short of ordering the surgery. Kosilek sued again, saying the hormone treatments, laser hair removal, and psychotherapy she had received were insufficient to address severe anxiety and depression.

Kosilek has already tried to castrate himself and twice tried to commit suicide, once while taking the antidepressant Prozac. The Department of Correction’s own doctors have said that surgery is the only appropriate care for Kosilek.
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In his ruling Tuesday, Wolf said that the department was acting “deliberately indifferent” in failing to provide the surgery now that Kosilek has continued to suffer “intense mental anguish,” a violation of his rights against cruel and unusual punishment.

“Prisoners have long been held to have a right to humane treatment, including a right to adequate care for their serious medical needs,” Wolf said, citing US Supreme Court rulings.

Wolf issued his ruling after he had held a trial in 2006 and several follow-up hearings in the years after, with testimony from doctors and specialists and state prison officials.

A spokeswoman for the state Department of Correction said Tuesday only that,“We are reviewing the decision and exploring our appellate options.”

The department, under multiple administrations, has opposed the surgery since Kosilek first brought the case. State legislators have long fought against it as well, arguing that taxpayers should not be funding a prisoner’s decision for a sex reassignment.

On Tuesday, US Senator Scott Brown released a statement saying:“This is an outrageous abuse of taxpayer dollars. We have many big challenges facing us as a nation, but nowhere among those issues would I include providing sex-change surgery to convicted murderers.”

But transgender rights advocates welcomed Wolf’s decision, saying it recognized a standard of care set by national medical and psychological groups.

“These types of treatments are medically necessary, and we are looking forward to the day all transgender people can have full equal access to medically necessary care that they may need,” said Gunner Scott, of the Massachusetts Transgender Political Coalition.

Ben Klein, a senior attorney with Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders, added that Wolf recognized that there is a high standard he must follow in ordering the surgery, but that he found that it was met in the case of Kosilek.

“The real issue is that if the denial of health care amounts to cruel and unusual punishment, then there’s an obligation to provide that treatment,” Klein said.

Wolf, who was nominated to the bench by President Reagan in 1985, has been known for issuing controversial rulings based on law, but that often go against public opinion. He was the judge, for instance, who ordered a retrial last year in the sentencing of convicted serial killer Gary Lee Sampson, after finding that a juror withheld information about his past.

He is also the judge who held the hearings that exposed the FBI’s scandalous relationship with James “Whitey” Bulger, and he has vacated convictions after finding prosecutorial wrongdoing.

In his ruling Tuesday, the judge said he expected the Department of Correction to follow the same standards of care that it would for any illness, noting he recently oversaw an agreement the state reached with prisoners’ rights advocates to provide better mental health treatment.

One of Kosilek’s lawyers, Frances S. Cohen, called the judge’s ruling courageous, and said “it was entirely consistent with recent decisions that have held that medical doctors should make decisions with respect to treatment for gender identity disorder.”

Joseph L. Sulman, another attorney, said,“The law has always been in our favor, and we thought once the law was applied to the facts, the judge really only could reach one conclusion.”

He added that he anticipates the state will “promptly arrange for Michelle Kosilek to receive her treatment.”

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Pay for the surgery, California's got PLENTY of money. The must have it, because they have all those working Mexicans taking over and killing off the blacks who never worked a day. Viva la Mexico!!
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