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U.S. Senate poised to pass gay rights bill barring workplace discrimination

There are 49 comments on the CTV story from Nov 7, 2013, titled U.S. Senate poised to pass gay rights bill barring workplace discrimination. In it, CTV reports that:

The Senate is headed for a historic vote on legislation outlawing workplace discrimination against gay, bisexual and transgender Americans, demonstrating the nation's quickly evolving attitude toward gay rights nearly two decades after Congress rejected same-sex marriage.

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“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#24 Nov 8, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
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Actually, you can see that the Republican leadership is trying to bury this as deeply as they can. Sure, they'll have their private fundraisers where they bring it up directly.[You know: the kind of groupie conclave where Mitt made his 47% remark.] But that is preaching to the already converted. At best, it will encourage the Republican Party's most reliable voters to vote.
There will also be any number of dog whistles at more public forums. Neither will those change anyone's mind. They will merely reassure those who already agree and go over the heads of people who disagree.
But the Democrats are about to turn the anti-gay sentiments of the Republican Party against them. The youth, in particular, are particularly offended by the bigotry. And many will establish Democratic voting habits as a result. And that has the Republican leadership very worried.
Hence, the House will sideline the bill as quickly and quietly as possible. And when President Obama takes unilateral action, the party leadership will show only feeble opposition.
And the Democrats will STILL have an issue that appeals to independents and youth, and which activates their most reliable voters.
Don't be surprised if the Republicans hold the majority n BOTH houses of congress after the next election when voters punish those in power who are responsible for their health insurance policies ("If you like your heath insurance policy, you can keep it ! PERIOD !" too bad The Obamaniac LIED) being cancelled or their premiums skyrocket.

The Republicans may well hold the majority of both houses of Congress after the next election because of the OBAMACARE mess. Gee, too bad the democrats only had several years to plan this fiasco.(PROUDLY BROUGHT TO YOU BY "FIASCO SOFTWARE" !:))

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#25 Nov 8, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Don't be surprised if the Republicans hold the majority n BOTH houses of congress after the next election when voters punish those in power who are responsible for their health insurance policies ("If you like your heath insurance policy, you can keep it ! PERIOD !" too bad The Obamaniac LIED) being cancelled or their premiums skyrocket.
The Republicans may well hold the majority of both houses of Congress after the next election because of the OBAMACARE mess. Gee, too bad the democrats only had several years to plan this fiasco.(PROUDLY BROUGHT TO YOU BY "FIASCO SOFTWARE" !:))
We shall see how successful Obamacare is over the next two years. But whatever happens will not depend on buggy software. It will depend on whether people want to return to an era when they had no insurance and, when they did, were cancelled when they experienced illness.

In any event, ENDA redounds to the Democrat's favor. Perhaps just as importantly, 25% of the Republicans who voted supported ENDA. While the party is still predominantly composed of anti-gay bigots, this provides incontrovertible evidence of "evolution." (If Boehner were to allow the House to vote and even HALF the proportion of Republican representatives supported ENDA, it would pass.)

Look for new Republican candidates to proclaim their solidarity with the gay rights community, or to keep quiet. The politics have now shifted to the anti-gay's detriment.

Since: Mar 09

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#26 Nov 8, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
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Actually, you can see that the Republican leadership is trying to bury this as deeply as they can. Sure, they'll have their private fundraisers where they bring it up directly.[You know: the kind of groupie conclave where Mitt made his 47% remark.] But that is preaching to the already converted. At best, it will encourage the Republican Party's most reliable voters to vote.
There will also be any number of dog whistles at more public forums. Neither will those change anyone's mind. They will merely reassure those who already agree and go over the heads of people who disagree.
But the Democrats are about to turn the anti-gay sentiments of the Republican Party against them. The youth, in particular, are particularly offended by the bigotry. And many will establish Democratic voting habits as a result. And that has the Republican leadership very worried.
Hence, the House will sideline the bill as quickly and quietly as possible. And when President Obama takes unilateral action, the party leadership will show only feeble opposition.
And the Democrats will STILL have an issue that appeals to independents and youth, and which activates their most reliable voters.
That's hopefully how it will go, but remember that the youth voted overwhelmingly for Richard Nixon ... twice ... and it was because of a single issue that impacted them directly.

If the GOP can find a way to bread 'n butter them, they'll geek.

There's a difference, though. Dems are better at social networking, at least until the next crop of Mormon techie-brats hit the scene.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#27 Nov 8, 2013
snyper wrote:
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That's hopefully how it will go, but remember that the youth voted overwhelmingly for Richard Nixon ... twice ... and it was because of a single issue that impacted them directly.
If the GOP can find a way to bread 'n butter them, they'll geek.
There's a difference, though. Dems are better at social networking, at least until the next crop of Mormon techie-brats hit the scene.
I don't see a single issue supported by the GOP which appeals to the youth.

Since: Mar 09

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#28 Nov 8, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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I don't see a single issue supported by the GOP which appeals to the youth.
College students will want employment. It's about all they've got.

The news isn't covering all those who've lost their homes.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#29 Nov 8, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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I don't see a single issue supported by the GOP which appeals to the youth.
College education? Nope. Don't need that.

Health care? Don't need that either.

Housing? Why would anyone need that?

Medical marijuana? Heaven forbid.

Women's rights? Ha ha ha ha ha!

Child care? Not after they're born!

Forced ultrasound? Now there's a good idea...

Since: Mar 09

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#30 Nov 8, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
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College education? Nope. Don't need that.
Health care? Don't need that either.
Housing? Why would anyone need that?
Medical marijuana? Heaven forbid.
Women's rights? Ha ha ha ha ha!
Child care? Not after they're born!
Forced ultrasound? Now there's a good idea...
I agree that we have ALL those bases covered in a way that the GOP can't even approach.

Today ...

http://www.npr.org/2013/11/08/243874702/moder...

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#31 Nov 9, 2013
snyper wrote:
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I agree that we have ALL those bases covered in a way that the GOP can't even approach.
Today ...
http://www.npr.org/2013/11/08/243874702/moder...
The problem is this myth of the "moderate Republican." The bar is so low that Goldwater would be considered a left-wing traitor to the party. Anyone who is moderate in the traditional meaning of the word has already left or been drummed out of the party.(Examples of moderate Republicans that the media likes to point to are John McCain, Jeff Flake, Lindsey Graham, Kelly Ayotte... It's all part of the right-wing propaganda that continually moves the conversation further to the right of where the American people actually want it to be.)

I'm afraid that, as long as the Republican Party relies on the NRA, evangelicals, the Club for Growth, and the Koch Brothers for its ideas and financial support, it will continue to shrink in appeal.

We are following Lincoln's dictum about fooling the people. The curtain has been lifted. But the man behind is not about to surrender the controls.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#32 Nov 9, 2013
snyper wrote:
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I agree that we have ALL those bases covered in a way that the GOP can't even approach.
Today ...
http://www.npr.org/2013/11/08/243874702/moder...
I'm not sure there is really any room in America for a moderate Republican party.

If the GOP dumps the social conservative issues- abortion, gay marriage, immigration, etc, then they lose their already shrinking base without gaining any significant number of new voters.

Becoming "moderates" would only hasten the demise of the Republican party.

They really have no choice but to hang on as long as they can, then quietly go the way of the Whigs.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#33 Nov 9, 2013
Considering the sheeple want to be taken care of from cradle to grave- the Democratic party plank- I'm trying to think of a party plank which would be a viable long term alternative party.

I don't think the GOP will actually cease to exist as a party any time soon, but they ARE headed down the road to permanent minority party status at the national level.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#34 Nov 9, 2013
Mere window dressing to divert attention from The Obamaniac's disaster that is OBAMACARE, and his criminal activities and that of his administration.

The Obamaniac is Evil. PURE EVIL®.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#35 Nov 9, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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I'm not sure there is really any room in America for a moderate Republican party.
If the GOP dumps the social conservative issues- abortion, gay marriage, immigration, etc, then they lose their already shrinking base without gaining any significant number of new voters.
Becoming "moderates" would only hasten the demise of the Republican party.
They really have no choice but to hang on as long as they can, then quietly go the way of the Whigs.
Speaking of ...

http://news.yahoo.com/philadelphia-voters-ele...

lol

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#36 Nov 9, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
Mere window dressing to divert attention from The Obamaniac's disaster that is OBAMACARE, and his criminal activities and that of his administration.
The Obamaniac is Evil. PURE EVIL®.
You really need to get psychological help.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#37 Nov 9, 2013
snyper wrote:
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Speaking of ...
http://news.yahoo.com/philadelphia-voters-ele...
lol
Yeah, but that's the same city in which 59 precincts voted 100% for the Dems in '12.

We are quickly becoming 2 separate one-party nations; one urban, the other rural.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#38 Nov 9, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
Mere window dressing to divert attention from The Obamaniac's disaster that is OBAMACARE, and his criminal activities and that of his administration.
The Obamaniac is Evil. PURE EVIL®.
And your apology for making up false statements, claiming I said things I did NOT will be coming anytime soon, I trust. It's so easy, all you have to say is "Curteese, I'm sorry, I accused you of saying things you never did."

See how easy that will be? I might even loathe you less. Maybe.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#39 Nov 9, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>And your apology for making up false statements, claiming I said things I did NOT will be coming anytime soon, I trust. It's so easy, all you have to say is "Curteese, I'm sorry, I accused you of saying things you never did."
See how easy that will be? I might even loathe you less. Maybe.
Your apology is accepted.

:)

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#41 Nov 11, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Your apology is accepted.
:)
Coward.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#42 Nov 11, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
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The problem is this myth of the "moderate Republican." The bar is so low that Goldwater would be considered a left-wing traitor to the party. Anyone who is moderate in the traditional meaning of the word has already left or been drummed out of the party.(Examples of moderate Republicans that the media likes to point to are John McCain, Jeff Flake, Lindsey Graham, Kelly Ayotte... It's all part of the right-wing propaganda that continually moves the conversation further to the right of where the American people actually want it to be.)
I'm afraid that, as long as the Republican Party relies on the NRA, evangelicals, the Club for Growth, and the Koch Brothers for its ideas and financial support, it will continue to shrink in appeal.
We are following Lincoln's dictum about fooling the people. The curtain has been lifted. But the man behind is not about to surrender the controls.
what I've read, all their "heroes" of the past, whom they love to crow about, Teddy Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Reagan, the lot would be hooted off a stage today for being too liberal.

NIXON, then thought of being super conservative, was actively working on a similar universal health care system far more generous than Obama's, but Watergate derailed his plans, which is a shame, for it would be matter of course today.

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Since: Feb 08

Oklahoma City, OK

#43 Nov 11, 2013
snyper wrote:
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College students will want employment. It's about all they've got.
The news isn't covering all those who've lost their homes.
Except that the GOP is FAR worse on employment issues. Under Obama, we've seen a major growth in private sector jobs, the job losses have come in the public sector, due to greed-based GOP cuts in public services, causing great suffering among those who need those programs, AND kicking those who work for them to the bricks and harming the private businesses that serve them in any number of ways. The GOP's blind hate of government and the perverse love they've suddenly developed for an amoral Ayn Rand approach to society is destructive in countless ways and does harm our economy tremendously.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#44 Nov 11, 2013
OkieDarren wrote:
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Except that the GOP is FAR worse on employment issues. Under Obama, we've seen a major growth in private sector jobs, the job losses have come in the public sector, due to greed-based GOP cuts in public services, causing great suffering among those who need those programs, AND kicking those who work for them to the bricks and harming the private businesses that serve them in any number of ways. The GOP's blind hate of government and the perverse love they've suddenly developed for an amoral Ayn Rand approach to society is destructive in countless ways and does harm our economy tremendously.
What you seem to be describing are mostly the Libertarian RINOs that have thoroughly hijacked the GOP.

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