Gays and transsexuals 'will never go to heaven', cardinal says

There are 180 comments on the Telegraph.co.uk story from Dec 3, 2009, titled Gays and transsexuals 'will never go to heaven', cardinal says. In it, Telegraph.co.uk reports that:

The Roman Catholic Church still regards homosexuality as an "insult to God" and homosexuals and transsexuals will never go to Heaven, a leading cardinal said on Wednesday, prompting a rebuke from the Vatican.

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Revelations

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#179 Aug 13, 2012
Catholic created gay wrote:
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Somebody once said, the first will be last and last will be first.
Where does that put you????
Dont you realize this was meant as a social class statement....those that are greedy, arrogant, unforgiving, and abuse power will be last, the poor, weak, and humble will be first in the kingdom of god. You really think it means preaching against gays will make you last? Lol, are you gay catholic created gay? Is that why you are struggling to point scripture and falsely interperet what christ means? To suit your sexual life style? Does ''man shall not lie with man as a woman, it is an ABOMINATION to god'' ever confused you as to what gods stance is on homosexuality? Or when christ himself tells you to keep gods commandments? Your BLIND, wake up for your sake. And just because someone takes a stance against homosexuality, doesnt mean they are hatemongers, quit being mad because noone wants to be gay with you.
Dude

Newark, DE

#180 Aug 13, 2012
The old fart puts on a dopey outfit, and all of the sudden he is the overseer of all things ethereal. Nobody really knows what happens after you die. Nobody. He's just putting his own, c*nty spin on it.
Revelations

United States

#181 Aug 14, 2012
Catholicism is a joke and is shameful to the lord, they are greedy, lie, perverts, controlling, embrace evolution...they are modern day pharisee's and they dont even see it.

“ TRUTH : NOT EXPEDIENCE”

Since: Nov 07

town near Jax, Fl

#182 Aug 14, 2012
Revelations wrote:
<quoted text> Dont you realize this was meant as a social class statement....those that are greedy, arrogant, unforgiving, and abuse power will be last, the poor, weak, and humble will be first in the kingdom of god. You really think it means preaching against gays will make you last? Lol, are you gay catholic created gay? Is that why you are struggling to point scripture and falsely interperet what christ means? To suit your sexual life style? Does ''man shall not lie with man as a woman, it is an ABOMINATION to god'' ever confused you as to what gods stance is on homosexuality? Or when christ himself tells you to keep gods commandments? Your BLIND, wake up for your sake. And just because someone takes a stance against homosexuality, doesnt mean they are hatemongers, quit being mad because noone wants to be gay with you.
So, now you don't believe in the 'literal' interpretation of the Bible. Oh, how we can be two-faced and hypocritical. And if you think you're not a sinner, you're in a world of sh't.

“ TRUTH : NOT EXPEDIENCE”

Since: Nov 07

town near Jax, Fl

#183 Aug 14, 2012
Revelations wrote:
Catholicism is a joke and is shameful to the lord, they are greedy, lie, perverts, controlling, embrace evolution...they are modern day pharisee's and they dont even see it.
You must be really far back in those hills. I'm surprised you have a computer or can get service that far out and away from civilization.
Revelations

United States

#184 Aug 14, 2012
Catholic created gay wrote:
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So, now you don't believe in the 'literal' interpretation of the Bible. Oh, how we can be two-faced and hypocritical. And if you think you're not a sinner, you're in a world of sh't.
there is no reason for a literal translation here, jesus said what he said...first last and last first....so what do you think he means? Or meant? Dont try to ''catch'' me or ''trip' me up, it wont work...quit being so dense as to have every single thing explained to you, surely you can come to some degree of senseability. Tell me this...what part of the bible should we not take literal?
Revelations

United States

#185 Aug 14, 2012
you do realize seperation of church and state is not in the constitution right? And if you truly loved god, you would realize his importance in both,church and state...but again, you are a luke warm christian that still cant let go of your worldy view points. You seriously think god gives an OK to homosexuality?

“ TRUTH : NOT EXPEDIENCE”

Since: Nov 07

town near Jax, Fl

#186 Aug 15, 2012
Revelations wrote:
you do realize seperation of church and state is not in the constitution right? And if you truly loved god, you would realize his importance in both,church and state...but again, you are a luke warm christian that still cant let go of your worldy view points. You seriously think god gives an OK to homosexuality?
God created me gay, does that answer your question??? He doesn't make mistakes.

“ TRUTH : NOT EXPEDIENCE”

Since: Nov 07

town near Jax, Fl

#187 Aug 15, 2012
Revelations wrote:
<quoted text> there is no reason for a literal translation here, jesus said what he said...first last and last first....so what do you think he means? Or meant? Dont try to ''catch'' me or ''trip' me up, it wont work...quit being so dense as to have every single thing explained to you, surely you can come to some degree of senseability. Tell me this...what part of the bible should we not take literal?
All of it! I suppose you think the 'eye of the needle' was just that, and not a gate.
Atheist Silurist

Slough, UK

#188 Aug 15, 2012
Revelations wrote:
you do realize seperation of church and state is not in the constitution right? And if you truly loved god, you would realize his importance in both,church and state...but again, you are a luke warm christian that still cant let go of your worldy view points. You seriously think god gives an OK to homosexuality?
It confuses me why any gay person would want to be a member of a religious cult who's book advocates killing them.
I'm not gay,but I can't hate gays just because some stupid fcuking book tells me to.
Keith

Cobbitty, Australia

#190 Aug 17, 2012
MiddleWay wrote:
Arrogance coming from a man named after a bird....
?

“ TRUTH : NOT EXPEDIENCE”

Since: Nov 07

town near Jax, Fl

#191 Aug 17, 2012
Atheist Silurist wrote:
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It confuses me why any gay person would want to be a member of a religious cult who's book advocates killing them.
I'm not gay,but I can't hate gays just because some stupid fcuking book tells me to.
That 'book' doesn't tell you to do that. That is a misinterpretation used by most evangelical Christians to support their hatred of gay people.

“The Black Mermaid”

Since: Aug 11

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#192 Aug 20, 2012
Dude wrote:
The old fart puts on a dopey outfit, and all of the sudden he is the overseer of all things ethereal. Nobody really knows what happens after you die. Nobody. He's just putting his own, c*nty spin on it.
Dude, I agree that nobody really knows what happens after we die. Stories are fabricated to bring us comfort and hope. We all need that, even me. But I'm a realist, what can I say?

“The Black Mermaid”

Since: Aug 11

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#193 Aug 20, 2012
Catholic created gay wrote:
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God created me gay, does that answer your question??? He doesn't make mistakes.
I believe that yes, God created people with their sexual orientation. But don't you see that if the RCC ever admitted to that, it would utterly destroy itself? Because if they could be wrong about something as important as that, they could be wrong about many other things, which makes the entire religion completely unreliable and very, very faulty. I will NEVER hold homosexuality against anyone; I truly believe gays are every bit as precious to God as heteros. God bless you!

“The Black Mermaid”

Since: Aug 11

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#194 Aug 20, 2012
Revelations wrote:
you do realize seperation of church and state is not in the constitution right? And if you truly loved god, you would realize his importance in both,church and state...but again, you are a luke warm christian that still cant let go of your worldy view points. You seriously think god gives an OK to homosexuality?
If anybody truly loves God, they'd practice a lot more mercy and compassion.
alistair

Vancouver, Canada

#195 Aug 20, 2012
Well they aren't wrong but they left out the part that they won't be going to heaven either. Psalms 37 : 9, 10, 27 says the RIGHTEOUS will inherit the EARTH and will reside FOREVER upon it
lol

Italy

#196 Aug 21, 2012
I don't care, there ain't no heaven or hell, but on this planet.
Pete

London, KY

#197 Jul 2, 2013
How come God wouldn't give me a wife?. No Homosexuality here!!!. You know, I once asked God for a wife, 5 months later, He gave me a wh**e!. I do admit, I did used to blaspheme God a couple of years on down before this, but I stopped this. I figured this is the reason God raped me. If God didn't want to give me a wife, He sure as Hell didn't have to give me that rotten wh**e!!!. Because God foistered this evil upon me, my blaspheming Him returned with a vengence!!!. I lay it on old God now and I don't care if I do go burn forever, HAHAHAHAHA!!!. I blaspheme God real good now. I do it more then ever and I am a might proud of that fact, HAHAHAHAHA!!!***** GIVE ME ANOTHER WH**E GOD!!!!!!!!!*
A Christian View

Chennai, India

#198 Jul 2, 2013
Tell me : even a newborn or unborn child could tell that humanity is Adam and Eve.

Not and *never* was Adam & Adam or Eve & Eve.

Let's read Adam & Eve this way : God was very clear that the Adamic Garden had all activities *but* sex. It was the thing forbidden. It was the forbidden fruit.

The original Church always valued and treasured *virginity*. Adoration of Virgin Mary will always be there, regardless of what has happened in *modern* society in the name of "liberalism" or "feminism" or whatever.

Values of truth will assert themselves.
Look at it this way : not all people are inclined to kill or steal for any reason whatsoever. Simply speaking it is the way of truth asserting itself in them.

Similarly, today entire world institutions have legalized very serious perversions and indeed crimes of subtle nature. But the truth will assert itself in people staying out of harm's way by their very inherent human nature.

What children need is a moral foundation, not technical manuals or sex education.

Wendy

United States

#200 Jul 9, 2013
MiddleWay wrote:
Arrogance coming from a man named after a bird....
Why would anyone go to heaven do you know?

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