National Cathedral to perform same-sex weddings

Jan 8, 2013 Full story: The Northwestern in Oshkosh 124

The Washington National Cathedral, where the nation gathers to mourn tragedies and celebrate new presidents, will soon begin performing same-sex marriages.

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“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#88 Jan 10, 2013
George wrote:
It is the very essence of the belief in a God who has revealed His will to men.
And depending on the Christian one is listening to at the moment, his will can be revealed in contradictory and even mutually exclusive ways.
George wrote:
I can confidently express the view that God prohibits murder. Why? Because He has clearly revealed that aspect of His will for us.
And yet there are differences with in Christianity as to what constitutes a murder that God prohibits. Even that is a hair that has been split in the name of God. Some Christians choose to believe abortion is murder, others do not, some Christians believe capital punishment to be murder, while others do not.
George wrote:
I can say confidently that idol worship is contrary to God's will for us for the same reason.
But what constitutes idol worship and what does not has long been the subject of differences of opinion in Christianity.
George wrote:
If you tell me that God has revealed to you that you may commit adultery, I can confidently conclude that you are a liar or you are mistaken, because the very nature of God precludes His having revealed that to you.
What part of the concept of omnipotence aren't you grasping? He is God, He can darn well do what He wants. You may not like it, but God has always been a bit fickle.
George wrote:
You can start a religion based on the belief in the moral correctness of adultery. You can gain voting control over a previously Christian denomination and make that change to its tenets but having done so, it does not follow that God calls you to that position or that your beliefs remain Christian.
The same can be said of your choice of beliefs too, or hadn't you thought of that. God decides who has gotten the whole Christianity thingy right, not His Christians.

“Equality for ALL”

Since: Jul 10

Massachusetts

#89 Jan 10, 2013
George wrote:
It is the very essence of the belief in a God who has revealed His will to men. I can confidently express the view that God prohibits murder. Why? Because He has clearly revealed that aspect of His will for us. I can say confidently that idol worship is contrary to God's will for us for the same reason. If you tell me that God has revealed to you that you may commit adultery, I can confidently conclude that you are a liar or you are mistaken, because the very nature of God precludes His having revealed that to you. You can start a religion based on the belief in the moral correctness of adultery. You can gain voting control over a previously Christian denomination and make that change to its tenets but having done so, it does not follow that God calls you to that position or that your beliefs remain Christian.
You epitomize why there needs to be a separation between those things spiritual and those of the government. You cannot fathom that other people may have a very different understanding of god and what Jesus stood for, let alone that there could be people who don't believe in a god or that Jesus was anything but a man.
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#92 Jan 10, 2013
George wrote:
<quoted text>
I will - and you should watch out for God's wrath
you're a nutsy one.
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#93 Jan 10, 2013
George wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course. We recognize that you believe "a God without wrath brought men without sin into a kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a cross." It is your birthright as an American to believe that. That is just not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It is not the God about whose judgment at the end times Christ spoke. It is a God of your invention, made in your own image, who is a sugar daddy indulging your every whim, fancy and perversion.
and we fully recognize that you have a multiple personality disorder since you like to show us so many names attached to your repitition.

faith, and the freedom to choose, is inherent to each of us in america. you choose to believe differently. you hate when others believe differently than you. it is you that has taken on God's place and job. that is your invention, hoisting yourself up in such a way as to believe the tripe you type here. it's your choice, granted.....and it amuses the heck out of us to toy with you and watch you boil and roil in a hissy fit when someone disagrees with you since you trot out those same posts repeatedly.

einstein's definition of insanity :
doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

fits you to a "T" mr multiple personality disorder.
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#94 Jan 10, 2013
The Graet Either Or wrote:
.....
Homosexuality itself is a war on women. Follyhood sexual innuendos are a war on women. The war on the family structure continues.
The devil is ridin high in Massachusetts
Goodbye Rome
then how do you explain lesbians?

LOL
(quick, someone get the popcorn ready)

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#95 Jan 10, 2013
George wrote:
<quoted text>
It is the very essence of the belief in a God who has revealed His will to men. I can confidently express the view that God prohibits murder. Why? Because He has clearly revealed that aspect of His will for us. I can say confidently that idol worship is contrary to God's will for us for the same reason. If you tell me that God has revealed to you that you may commit adultery, I can confidently conclude that you are a liar or you are mistaken, because the very nature of God precludes His having revealed that to you. You can start a religion based on the belief in the moral correctness of adultery. You can gain voting control over a previously Christian denomination and make that change to its tenets but having done so, it does not follow that God calls you to that position or that your beliefs remain Christian.
Wow, are all "christians" as arrogant as you?

What makes you think YOU know "the very nature of god" or "god's will"?

Has it ever occurred to you that YOU may be the one who is mistaken?

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#96 Jan 10, 2013
George wrote:
<quoted text>
It is the very essence of the belief in a God who has revealed His will to men. I can confidently express the view that God prohibits murder. Why? Because He has clearly revealed that aspect of His will for us. I can say confidently that idol worship is contrary to God's will for us for the same reason. If you tell me that God has revealed to you that you may commit adultery, I can confidently conclude that you are a liar or you are mistaken, because the very nature of God precludes His having revealed that to you. You can start a religion based on the belief in the moral correctness of adultery. You can gain voting control over a previously Christian denomination and make that change to its tenets but having done so, it does not follow that God calls you to that position or that your beliefs remain Christian.
George,

You are talking about the Ten Commandments and specifically adultery.

Adultery is very clearly a most destructive thing to do. But, it can be forgiven.

The topic here is supposed to be same-sex weddings in the National Cathedral. If this is done in the Cathedral, it will certainly be a very visible and well-documented event. But, here, there, or anywhere else, including the National Cathedral, it will be a marriage even if you don't approve of it.

It won't, necessarily, have anything at all to do with adultery.

Rev. Ken

Since: Mar 07

United States

#100 Jan 10, 2013
The Graet Either Or wrote:
........
Homosexuality itself is a war on women. Follyhood sexual innuendos are a war on women. The war on the family structure continues.
........
Oh my, you are a confused little thing.

Your premise here is a bit far-fetched though, since half the gay population ARE women, and the other half aren't "against" women, they just don't want to have sex with them.

And how is falling in love, marrying, and forming families a "war" on families?

Silly stuff, there.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#101 Jan 10, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
<quoted text>
and we fully recognize that you have a multiple personality disorder since you like to show us so many names attached to your repitition.
faith, and the freedom to choose, is inherent to each of us in america. you choose to believe differently. you hate when others believe differently than you. it is you that has taken on God's place and job. that is your invention, hoisting yourself up in such a way as to believe the tripe you type here. it's your choice, granted.....and it amuses the heck out of us to toy with you and watch you boil and roil in a hissy fit when someone disagrees with you since you trot out those same posts repeatedly.
einstein's definition of insanity :
doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
fits you to a "T" mr multiple personality disorder.
Dear H&M,

I think you are confusing George, a rabid, evangelical, Christian fundamentalist lawyer who is supposedly married to an Episcopal priest, with the Manito Manurehead David, Caleb, Lew, etc. who goes by many names and hails from Manito, or Pekin, Il and claims to be an Episcopalian.

Though, I might agree that they both occasionally exhibit some traits that could be construed to be evidence of an internal adverse posession, of sorts.

Rev. Ken

Since: Mar 07

United States

#102 Jan 10, 2013
George wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course. We recognize that you believe "a God without wrath brought men without sin into a kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a cross." It is your birthright as an American to believe that. That is just not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It is not the God about whose judgment at the end times Christ spoke. It is a God of your invention, made in your own image, who is a sugar daddy indulging your every whim, fancy and perversion.
If you don't like that God creates gay people, sends us soul-mates, and that sometimes we choose to love and marry them, complain to HIM.

Since: Mar 07

United States

#103 Jan 10, 2013
The Graet Either Or wrote:
....... Why place our youth into such an environment that does not ensure the principles of morality and denies said child the human right to a male and female balanced family structure.........
Please prove that a male/female family structure guarantees a certain type of morality. Statistics and anecdotal evidence seem to prove that you are incorrect with this one.

Thanks.

Since: Mar 07

United States

#104 Jan 10, 2013
Lemon Lipstick wrote:
<quoted text>
Family structure and stability for one. Morality. The future of civilization.
Lesbian turkey basters in Pittsfield, MA.
Thomas now "Tammy" Lobel of SF, Ca.
Anti male explains why so many dykes sound and act like men. See Raquel Madcow. Such behavior turns off more men than lesbians lead you on to believe. Men that enjoy lesbianism are simply enjoying excess and perversions themselves. Lesbianism IS degrading behavior no matter how much one enjoys said acts.
More popcorn?
Another confused soul.

Why in the world would you think that all lesbians look or act in a certain manner? And how would you prove that this manner is either good or bad?

Silly troll.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#105 Jan 10, 2013
Lemon Lipstick wrote:
Homosexuality as a weapon.
It seems to be a pretty effective weapon considering we can now marry in 9 states with more on the way!

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#107 Jan 10, 2013
George wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course. We recognize that you believe "a God without wrath brought men without sin into a kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a cross." It is your birthright as an American to believe that. That is just not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It is not the God about whose judgment at the end times Christ spoke. It is a God of your invention, made in your own image, who is a sugar daddy indulging your every whim, fancy and perversion.
Look. You can dress it up in the verbiage of a fancy cant that will impress the mentally weak, but the basic, rational analysis of your twisted and heretical soteriology is best characterized as:

"I'm really pissed at you so kill some of my pets and that will make me feel better about you."

and

"I'm really pissed at you, and the only way I'll stop being pissed at you is if I have some of you kill me then believe that that makes us all good."

NUTS !!

“Plays well with others.”

Since: Jun 07

LIVING WELL*THE BEST REVENGE

#108 Jan 11, 2013
George wrote:
<quoted text>
Pure and utter nonsense. God does not contradict himself. No Christian could possibly believe that. Some may misunderstand His revelaion but never doeshereveal himself in mutally exclusive ways.


We are all REALLY female!!!!

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#109 Jan 11, 2013
Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:
... We are all REALLY female!!!!
Real females are feminine, a word that doesn't describe bull dyke lesbians.
George

Jacksonville, FL

#110 Jan 11, 2013
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
Look. You can dress it up in the verbiage of a fancy cant that will impress the mentally weak, but the basic, rational analysis of your twisted and heretical soteriology is best characterized as:
"I'm really pissed at you so kill some of my pets and that will make me feel better about you."
and
"I'm really pissed at you, and the only way I'll stop being pissed at you is if I have some of you kill me then believe that that makes us all good."
NUTS !!
Not my cant at all dufus. Sorry you don't recognize the statement. Put it into your search box and we can talk later about its author's "heretical soteriology."

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#111 Jan 11, 2013
George wrote:
<quoted text>
Not my cant at all dufus. Sorry you don't recognize the statement. Put it into your search box and we can talk later about its author's "heretical soteriology."
It's Saulianism; i.e. heretical.
George

Jacksonville, FL

#112 Jan 11, 2013
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
It's Saulianism; i.e. heretical.
Yes, yes. Saul was a heretic. The patristics are all heretical. King David was homosexual. No one had a tape recorder so we can't really know what Jesus said or did. Jesus was married (or did he have a same-sex relationsjhip with the Apostle John?). I can never keep track of all the latest "scholarship" on which your faith is premised but it is certainl enlightening and educational that from time to time you drop in to educate us.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#113 Jan 11, 2013
Brown Lipstick wrote:
Maybe we could send you to the Middle East to subvert the Muslims into decadence eh sheep? That's what you've done to our marraige.
Shi* stain!
B`A`A`A`A`A`A`A`A`
I've already been to the Middle East (on the military plan).

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