Election of first openly gay U.S. senator Tammy Baldwin energizes her Metro Detroit allies

Nov 9, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: MLive.com

The election Tuesday night of Tammy Baldwin, the county's first openly gay U.S. senator, delivers hope to her allies in Metro Detroit that its historical significance will lead to lasting change.

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Nov 9, 2012
 
“If you're not in a room, the conversation is about you. If you're in the room, the conversation is with you,” she said.

While this may not end the lies and hate being promoted by some in the Senate, at least those lies will not go unchallenged.
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Not Yet Equal wrote:
“If you're not in a room, the conversation is about you. If you're in the room, the conversation is with you,” she said.
While this may not end the lies and hate being promoted by some in the Senate, at least those lies will not go unchallenged.
Don't be shocked to find that nobody in or out of the room cares to waste conversation about or with you. Come out of the closet. Wave signs and do whatever. Most of us do not care.

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Nov 11, 2012
 
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Don't be shocked to find that nobody in or out of the room cares to waste conversation about or with you. Come out of the closet. Wave signs and do whatever. Most of us do not care.
While true most aren't concerned about the sexual orientation of others, there remains a significant minority who want to pass laws that punish and harm gay people, and those discussions still take place in legislative bodies across the country. While you may have missed the many advertisements urging voters to deny marriage equality, the millions spent promoting prejudice and legal discrimination in the last election clearly demonstrate some will go to great lengths to avoid treating others the way they themselves wish to be treated.

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Not Yet Equal wrote:
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While true most aren't concerned about the sexual orientation of others, there remains a significant minority who want to pass laws that punish and harm gay people, and those discussions still take place in legislative bodies across the country. While you may have missed the many advertisements urging voters to deny marriage equality, the millions spent promoting prejudice and legal discrimination in the last election clearly demonstrate some will go to great lengths to avoid treating others the way they themselves wish to be treated.
That's weird. The way this is worded, it could be about Native Americans. Change a couple of descriptive words is all.
I mean with hundreds of Nations, tribes, and only one congressional representative, who cares?
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That's weird. The way this is worded, it could be about Native Americans. Change a couple of descriptive words is all.
I mean with hundreds of Nations, tribes, and only one congressional representative, who cares?
You stumbled on to something here. Maybe what we need is a Gay Nation where they can establish their own laws. Marriage can be between anything they deem acceptable. I won't elaborate. Of course we're going to require them to stay on their reservation. They can have casinos and sell cigarettes without tax too as a perk.

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Thinking out of the box wrote:
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You stumbled on to something here. Maybe what we need is a Gay Nation where they can establish their own laws. Marriage can be between anything they deem acceptable. I won't elaborate. Of course we're going to require them to stay on their reservation. They can have casinos and sell cigarettes without tax too as a perk.
Well,Fair is fair. Good enough for the original occupants, should be good enough for real deviants. If Americans want to claim this Nation was founded on Christ(ianity). Then continue the pracitice.

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Thinking out of the box wrote:
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You stumbled on to something here. Maybe what we need is a Gay Nation where they can establish their own laws. Marriage can be between anything they deem acceptable. I won't elaborate. Of course we're going to require them to stay on their reservation. They can have casinos and sell cigarettes without tax too as a perk.
No need to establish a separate nation when treating everyone equally under the law as required by the constitution will solve the legal discrimination problems.

"The Court finds that neither Congress' claimed legislative justifications nor any of the proposed reasons proffered by BLAG constitute bases rationally related to any of the alleged governmental interests. Further, after concluding that neither the law nor the record can sustain any of the interests suggested, the Court, having tried on its own, cannot conceive of any additional interests that DOMA might further."

"Prejudice, we are beginning to understand, rises not from malice or hostile animus alone. It may result as well from insensitivity caused by simple want of careful, rational reflection or from some instinctive mechanism to guard against people who appear to be different in some respects from ourselves."

Conclusion: DOMA... "violates her right to equal protection of the law under the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution" (Golinski)

“As irrational prejudice plainly never constitutes a legitimate government interest, this court must hold that Section 3 of DOMA as applied to Plaintiffs violates the equal protection principles embodied in the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution.”(Gill)

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Do ya have any original thoughts, say in your own words?
In my own words: there is no need to establish a separate nation when treating everyone equally under the law as required by the constitution will solve the legal discrimination problems.

The rest is simply legal documentation in support of my reply.

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