Oregon: Cake refusal violates gay cou...

Oregon: Cake refusal violates gay couple's rights

There are 57 comments on the SFGate story from Jan 17, 2014, titled Oregon: Cake refusal violates gay couple's rights. In it, SFGate reports that:

A suburban Portland bakery violated the civil rights of a same-sex couple by refusing to bake a cake for the women's wedding, the Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries said Friday.

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Denver Dan

Sacramento, CA

#51 Jan 23, 2014
I shot down every "point" made in favor of this baker being discriminated against but your mediator for this thread must be gay given they're all gone.

Typical gay thinking. If the truth stings then hide the truth.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#52 Jan 23, 2014
Denver Dan wrote:
I shot down every "point" made in favor of this baker being discriminated against but your mediator for this thread must be gay given they're all gone.
Typical gay thinking. If the truth stings then hide the truth.
Oh, so the case was dismissed against the baker?

What's that you say?

Oh, you're NOT in charge of deciding that?

Well gee, then I guess your opinion means squat, as usual.

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#53 Jan 23, 2014
Denver Dan wrote:
I shot down every "point" made in favor of this baker being discriminated against but your mediator for this thread must be gay given they're all gone.
Typical gay thinking. If the truth stings then hide the truth.
Might have been when you were on your angry, foul mouthed ranting phase. More reasoned and civil dialog is seldom removed.

If there's anyone to blame for their removal you'll easily find them when you check your mirror.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#54 Jan 23, 2014
TomInElPaso wrote:
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Might have been when you were on your angry, foul mouthed ranting phase. More reasoned and civil dialog is seldom removed.
If there's anyone to blame for their removal you'll easily find them when you check your mirror.
I must be out of the loop. So according to Dan all the posts he wrote that I scrolled past the other day have been removed?

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#55 Jan 24, 2014
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>I must be out of the loop. So according to Dan all the posts he wrote that I scrolled past the other day have been removed?
Dan is really a pretty good guy. That said, he has moments of pretty volatile mood swings. In fact at one point he conceded his position on this baker acknowledging it was far better to put out the fire on the drapes instead of waiting till the house burned down.

At that point I was aware there was more going on with him than first appearances. There may be something going on in his life causing the swings. Hopefully he'll get some help with it. I don't like to see good guys suffer. He deserves better.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#56 Jan 24, 2014
TomInElPaso wrote:
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Dan is really a pretty good guy. That said, he has moments of pretty volatile mood swings. In fact at one point he conceded his position on this baker acknowledging it was far better to put out the fire on the drapes instead of waiting till the house burned down.
At that point I was aware there was more going on with him than first appearances. There may be something going on in his life causing the swings. Hopefully he'll get some help with it. I don't like to see good guys suffer. He deserves better.
Did you see where Dan claimed that since the baker in CO faced fines and prison his rights were being violated?

Post #1024 on the CO thread.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/gay/T9SQIS144...

Dan may be a good guy but there is definitely something missing upstairs.

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#57 Jan 24, 2014
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>Did you see where Dan claimed that since the baker in CO faced fines and prison his rights were being violated?
Post #1024 on the CO thread.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/gay/T9SQIS144...
Dan may be a good guy but there is definitely something missing upstairs.
That may very well be true.
Denver Dan

Sacramento, CA

#58 Jan 29, 2014
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>Did you see where Dan claimed that since the baker in CO faced fines and prison his rights were being violated?
Post #1024 on the CO thread.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/gay/T9SQIS144...
Dan may be a good guy but there is definitely something missing upstairs.
Gee...if you have a religious belief do you not think your ritghts are being violated should you choose to hold that belief.

Odd how it it is gays can today believe a man can sleep with a man yet someone wanting to uphold another religion is punished.

No wonder gays have a hard time.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#59 Jan 29, 2014
Denver Dan wrote:
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Gee...if you have a religious belief do you not think your ritghts are being violated should you choose to hold that belief..
Read what you just wrote. Why would anyone think their rights are being violated for believing in whatever they want. Using your line of reasoning, anyone who takes a child to see Santa is having their rights violated because they believe it's fun to take children to see Santa.
Denver Dan wrote:
<quoted text>Odd how it it is gays can today believe a man can sleep with a man yet someone wanting to uphold another religion is punished.
No wonder gays have a hard time.
You have a severe comprehension issue when it comes to using religion to justify discrimination.

I love how the States Rights crowd who insisted SSM bans were legal because of States Rights now claim that the Federal Govt is somehow denying people their religious freedom for punishing criminal behavior that falls within States Rights.

It's amusing watching all you people claim that a Federal Law is being violated while you refuse to obey the Federal Civil Rights Act.



TITLE II--INJUNCTIVE RELIEF AGAINST DISCRIMINATION IN PLACES OF PUBLIC ACCOMMODATION

OOOSEC. 201.(a) All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, and privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin....

OOOSEC. 202. All persons shall be entitled to be free, at any establishment or place, from discrimination or segregation of any kind on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin, if such discrimination or segregation is or purports to be required by any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, rule, or order of a State or any agency or political subdivision thereof.

OOOSEC. 203. No person shall (a) withhold, deny, or attempt to withhold or deny, or deprive or attempt to deprive, any person of any right or privilege secured by section 201 or 202, or (b) intimidate, threaten, or coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any person with the purpose of interfering with any right or privilege secured by section 201 or 202, or (c) punish or attempt to punish any person for exercising or attempting to exercise any right or privilege secured by section 201 or 202.

Once again Dan you are claiming that any citizen can do anything they wish as long as they claim it's their "religious freedom"

And what about the bans on SSM that violate the religious freedoms of people who support SSM? I guess their religious freedoms don't count?

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#60 Jan 29, 2014
Denver Dan wrote:
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Gee...if you have a religious belief do you not think your ritghts are being violated should you choose to hold that belief.
Odd how it it is gays can today believe a man can sleep with a man yet someone wanting to uphold another religion is punished.
No wonder gays have a hard time.
If I am able to hold that belief even if others don't how is that denying me religious freedom?

Perhaps you should have that lump above your neck checked to see if it's alive.
car mat

Douglas, GA

#61 Feb 19, 2014
gay couple in lexington ky are doing the same thing .the baker found another baker that would do it at same price .the gay couple said no and they are now in court ,this baker was targeted and gays are doing this in different states,so watch out
Fundies R Mentally ill

Philadelphia, PA

#62 Feb 19, 2014
Lots of freaks think they live in a theocracy and that civil laws don't apply to them because they have "beliefs."

"Herbert and Catherine Schaible defied a court order to get medical care for their children after their 2-year-old son, Kent, died in 2009. Instead, they tried to comfort and pray over 8-month-old Brandon last year as he, too, died of treatable pneumonia.

"'My religious beliefs are that you should pray, and not have to use medicine. But because it is against the law, then whatever sentence you give me, I will accept,' Catherine Schaible, 44, told the judge."

Sending them to jail as quickly as possible is the best outcome.
Fundies R Mentally ill

Philadelphia, PA

#63 Feb 19, 2014
car mat wrote:
gay couple in lexington ky are doing the same thing .the baker found another baker that would do it at same price .the gay couple said no and they are now in court ,this baker was targeted and gays are doing this in different states,so watch out
Actually it's the talibangelicals in several states and different contexts making these sorts of claims that their "beliefs" trump existing laws.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#64 Feb 20, 2014
car mat wrote:
gay couple in lexington ky are doing the same thing .the baker found another baker that would do it at same price .the gay couple said no and they are now in court ,this baker was targeted and gays are doing this in different states,so watch out
Maybe bakers should stop discriminating against customers?
irene

Douglas, GA

#65 Feb 21, 2014
hope gov jan brewer signs into law a bill that will let business tell gay and lesos no to their request,s and if it goes to court the gays will be liable for the defence court expense

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#66 Feb 21, 2014
irene wrote:
hope gov jan brewer signs into law a bill that will let business tell gay and lesos no to their request,s and if it goes to court the gays will be liable for the defence court expense
Not when they win.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#67 Feb 22, 2014
irene wrote:
hope gov jan brewer signs into law a bill that will let business tell gay and lesos no to their request,s and if it goes to court the gays will be liable for the defence court expense
Nice to know you want special laws for Christians. Thing is why would these Christians be asking for special rights if God really was on their side?

Religious discrimination is what many who fled to this country were running from. But somehow that TRADITIONAL AMERICAN VALUE is somehow too liberal now for these "chriSTAINS".

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