Affordable housing for gay seniors op...

Affordable housing for gay seniors opens in Pa.

There are 172 comments on the WOI story from Jan 13, 2014, titled Affordable housing for gay seniors opens in Pa.. In it, WOI reports that:

No matter that he's 70 years old. Zeft had landed a coveted spot in a new affordable housing complex for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender seniors in the heart of downtown Philadelphia.

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“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#45 Jan 15, 2014
DNF wrote:
sorry my bad. Meant to write, "It's like claiming that resorts who are geared toward golfers are discriminating against NON-golfers."
How about housing communities that won't allow people in their early 50's live there ? Discrimination., rite ?(and perfectly legal).

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#46 Jan 15, 2014
Tenacity7 wrote:
Oddly enough, this housing development will open the door to Heterosexuals Only, Christians Only, etc. This type of segregation is not the answer.
You are quite confused. Developers often try to attract particular demographic groups by catering to their tastes. That doesn't mean they're discriminating against anyone else.

Golf courses develop houses along the fairway to attract--guess who--golfers. But people who just like the view but don't play golf are allowed to buy the houses, too. Some developments are particularly attractive to artists, but others are not excluded.

Religious groups already have developments that are geared toward their own ideas of spiritually-fulfilling living.

One could argue that the world would be more appealing to everyone if we didn't segregate ourselves. But the fact is that people with similar interests congregate in nearly every aspect of life, whether it's in the home, at the bar, in the workplace, at the church, in their hobbies.

Even the supermarket one chooses reflects personal preferences for cost, variety, quality, sustainability, etc. I can assure you that, if I dropped you into the middle of Whole Foods, you would not wonder if you were in the food section of a Super Walmart.

The developers in this case simply identified an underserved demographic and marketed to the niche.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#47 Jan 15, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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How about housing communities that won't allow people in their early 50's live there ? Discrimination., rite ?(and perfectly legal).
Maybe we should also discuss pet owners.
"Wondering" should file a Federal Lawsuit over the discrimination pit bull owners face!

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#48 Jan 15, 2014
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe we should also discuss pet owners.
"Wondering" should file a Federal Lawsuit over the discrimination pit bull owners face!
I have a number of animals I care for.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#49 Jan 15, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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I have a number of animals I care for.
Yes I know. And how often did you find a place only to be turned away because they don't allow pets?

My point is that Wondering seems to be OK with discrimination in certain areas. He has no problem with clergy being arrested fined and jailed for practicing their faith in Indiana, but some cake baker deserves the full protection of the religious freedom clause.

Cherry pickers

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#50 Jan 15, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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If they offer housing to the public they can't discriminate. Just like you claim is true for a CO baker.
You support discrimination for the Baker but not this group?

Interesting.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#51 Jan 15, 2014
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>You support discrimination for the Baker but not this group?
Interesting.
It's because of the baker. If he can't pick and choose, no one should be able to.
Keep in mind that the baker didn't discriminate, he served gays everyday. He just had a problem with gay wedding cakes.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#52 Jan 15, 2014
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>Yes I know. And how often did you find a place only to be turned away because they don't allow pets?
My point is that Wondering seems to be OK with discrimination in certain areas. He has no problem with clergy being arrested fined and jailed for practicing their faith in Indiana, but some cake baker deserves the full protection of the religious freedom clause.
Cherry pickers
None.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#53 Jan 15, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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It's because of the baker. If he can't pick and choose, no one should be able to.
Keep in mind that the baker didn't discriminate, he served gays everyday. He just had a problem with gay wedding cakes.
Keep in mind that the development you're referencing doesn't discriminate. It simply has a well-defined target market.

It's sort of like a baker that only makes wedding cakes. Anyone who wants a wedding cake can buy from him. But if you want a birthday cake, you can't claim discrimination.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#54 Jan 15, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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It's because of the baker. If he can't pick and choose, no one should be able to.
Keep in mind that the baker didn't discriminate, he served gays everyday. He just had a problem with gay wedding cakes.
The courts found him guilty of discrimination.

Spin again silly.

Was he forced to bake a gay wedding cake? NO

So what right was he denied again? He practised his faith as he saw fit and got in trouble just as he would had he stoned an unrepentant child to death.

You really are getting ridiculous in trying to defend him. By your logic I can start kidnapping people and selling them as slaves as long as I use the Bible to justify it.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#55 Jan 15, 2014
nhjeff wrote:
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Keep in mind that the development you're referencing doesn't discriminate. It simply has a well-defined target market.
It's sort of like a baker that only makes wedding cakes. Anyone who wants a wedding cake can buy from him. But if you want a birthday cake, you can't claim discrimination.
Brilliant and spot on. Wish I had thought of that. I guess Toys R Us should be closed since it only sells toys and not cigarettes pizza and beer!

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#56 Jan 15, 2014
I keep trying to remember what court case it was where the phrase "Ignorance of the law doesn't excuse breaking the law."

This place is not breaking any laws anymore than Toys-R-Us does.

The same can't be said of the CO Baker or the WA Florist.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#57 Jan 15, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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Of course it is. It's ok, I like it when you want to be different until it doesn't serve you. Hilarious actually.
No it's not. Senior housing, disabled housing, etc, has been around since the '60s.

When it comes to seniors, that is precisely the generation that gay seniors suffered under all of their lives. It's simply reasonable that in their more vulnerable years they would not want to be at the mercies of those people anymore.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#58 Jan 15, 2014
nhjeff wrote:
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Keep in mind that the development you're referencing doesn't discriminate. It simply has a well-defined target market.
It's sort of like a baker that only makes wedding cakes. Anyone who wants a wedding cake can buy from him. But if you want a birthday cake, you can't claim discrimination.
They do. By having a "well-defined target market" what normal person would want to live there? The baker didn't only bake wedding cakes and he sold his products to gays, just not gay wedding cakes.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#59 Jan 15, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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They do. By having a "well-defined target market" what normal person would want to live there? The baker didn't only bake wedding cakes and he sold his products to gays, just not gay wedding cakes.
How is a cake gay?

Is it something special about the icing?

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#60 Jan 15, 2014
Oh! I just figured it out!

The cake jumps off the plate to go chase some twinkies.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#61 Jan 15, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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They do. By having a "well-defined target market" what normal person would want to live there? The baker didn't only bake wedding cakes and he sold his products to gays, just not gay wedding cakes.
Thank you for clearly showing his hypocrisy.

Now since sexual orientation is not LISTED in the Federal Housing Act please explain how this place is violating that law.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#62 Jan 15, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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They do. By having a "well-defined target market" what normal person would want to live there? The baker didn't only bake wedding cakes and he sold his products to gays, just not gay wedding cakes.
So his religion says he can't sell to gays but he does anyway, then when he doesn't you say he's not discriminating because he previously served gays and lesbians.

And you can't see the hypocrisy you and he are showing?
Xerxes

Fairfax, VA

#63 Jan 15, 2014
Why are you special to be gay and old?

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#64 Jan 15, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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They do. By having a "well-defined target market" what normal person would want to live there? The baker didn't only bake wedding cakes and he sold his products to gays, just not gay wedding cakes.
OK I'll ask again. Are you saying christian mingle should not be allowed to do business since they discriminate against people of other faiths?

Isn't that violating the religious freedom clause?

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