Horsemeat in Meatballs!

Horsemeat in Meatballs!

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“I'm just a country boy”

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.Rooster Run, Ky

#1 Feb 26, 2013

“In God we trust”

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Cape Town, South Africa

#2 Feb 26, 2013
You eat horsemeat, what kind of country boy are ya, wait that is what a country boy is right?

“I'm just a country boy”

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.Rooster Run, Ky

#3 Feb 26, 2013
No, never ate horse in my life...people in the U.K. did, and without knowing it!
You can always trust my links (after all it's what I do).

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Since: Nov 10

Powellton WV

#4 Feb 26, 2013
This whole thing was particularly
hard for me. IMO eating horse is like
eating dog. It's just a big no no.

I know many European countries (Mexico
also) eat horse the same way we eat
beef but I believe eating domestic animals
is wrong.

“I'm just a country boy”

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.Rooster Run, Ky

#5 Feb 26, 2013
Ikea Withdraws Meatballs After Horse Meat Is Found

By STEPHEN CASTLE

Published: February 25, 2013



LONDON — The escalating crisis over horse meat in beef products in Europe claimed another big retail victim Monday when the Swedish furniture giant, Ikea, withdrew meatballs from sale in 14 European countries.

Meatballs at an Ikea store in Brno, Czech Republic, on Monday. Ikea pulled meatballs from 14 European countries after Czech authorities found horse meat in the product.


The retailer said it had removed some products from its stores in Sweden after the authorities in the Czech Republic detected horse meat in Ikea meatballs. The company said it had made the decision even though its own tests two weeks ago had not detected horse DNA.

Ikea also announced that it was stopping sales “of the concerned batch” of meatballs in Slovakia, the Czech Republic, Hungary, France, Britain, Portugal, Italy, Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Greece, Cyprus and Ireland.

In case no one wants to follow the link.

“The Spotted Girl News Network”

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Spotted World

#7 Feb 26, 2013
I have no problem with this other than the fraud part. Meat is meat. Humans get sentimental for no reason over some animals but not others. Cows and pigs can be good pets, yet more get sappy over horses and arbitrarily choose to set up a taboo against eating their meat.
BIG JOHN

Fort Worth, TX

#8 Feb 27, 2013
If I'm hung like a horse, then there must be some horse in my balls.

“I'm just a country boy”

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.Rooster Run, Ky

#9 Feb 27, 2013
BIG JOHN wrote:
If I'm hung like a horse, then there must be some horse in my balls.
Judged "Nuts", ha ha ha.
My Daddy used to tell me. them as have...don't have to brag, the women will do that for ya.

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Since: Nov 10

Powellton WV

#10 Feb 27, 2013
Spotted Girl wrote:
I have no problem with this other than the fraud part. Meat is meat. Humans get sentimental for no reason over some animals but not others. Cows and pigs can be good pets, yet more get sappy over horses and arbitrarily choose to set up a taboo against eating their meat.
Not over Some animals.
Over domestic work animals.
If not for the dog and the
horse humans would not have
"evolved" into the dominate
animal on the planet.
They helped us w/everything
from security of families/tribes
to hunting/providing for said
families....ect....
We owe them a debt of gratitude.
And slaughtering them is a hell
of a way to pay back that debt.

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Since: Nov 10

Powellton WV

#12 Feb 27, 2013
Force Majeure wrote:
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Huh? Many eat cows, pigs, chickens, lamb, goat, fish, lobster, guinea pig, ostrich, pigeons, quail, pheasant, even dogs, cats, snake, grasshoppers, ants, you name it. So if you raise cattle for consumption or horses for consumption what's the difference?
Yes, we eat horse meat in Sweden but it isn't very popular as it once was. It tastes like low quality salami. But we also eat moose and reindeer ..... domestic?
The word here is that someone along the chain of commerce has slipped in a mix including horse meat in meat balls that were sold to IKEA in the Czech Republic. Personally I've have a lot of exposure to Czech-Slovakia and it sounds like a common story of corruption and/or extortion, so I'm betting that "the switch" happened in the Czech Republic and not here in Sweden .... but I'm partial anyway.
There is a Huge difference b/t horse
and cow. HUGE.

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Since: Nov 10

Powellton WV

#14 Feb 27, 2013
Force Majeure wrote:
<quoted text>
You said "domestic" is the dividing line. Anything else?
LOL

You have to understand the history of
horses and dogs in relation to human development.

Before we had man made horse power we had
Horse Power.
Without horses farmers couldn't get in a crop,
ppl had no transportation for long distances
and hauling their products to market.
Without horses there would have been no pony
express...no postal system early on.

Dogs and horses are the only animals that have
worked with humans for the benefit of both
species.

We don't eat man and we shouldn't eat his best
friends either.

“I'm just a country boy”

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Since: Feb 13

.Rooster Run, Ky

#15 Feb 27, 2013
arctic wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL
You have to understand the history of
horses and dogs in relation to human development.
Before we had man made horse power we had
Horse Power.
Without horses farmers couldn't get in a crop,
ppl had no transportation for long distances
and hauling their products to market.
Without horses there would have been no pony
express...no postal system early on.
Dogs and horses are the only animals that have
worked with humans for the benefit of both
species.
We don't eat man and we shouldn't eat his best
friends either.
Great post! I was going to say the same thing about cannibalism.
We must (as civilized people) draw the line with man's best friend and our intelligent domesticated pets. After all it's by God's grace and 2% of our DNA we are separated from them.

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Powellton WV

#16 Feb 27, 2013
1CountryBumpkin wrote:
<quoted text>
Great post! I was going to say the same thing about cannibalism.
We must (as civilized people) draw the line with man's best friend and our intelligent domesticated pets. After all it's by God's grace and 2% of our DNA we are separated from them.
Right.

I know there are countries where dogs, cats and
even mice and rats are eaten. From what I can tell
it's more a matter of survival than it is....Gee,
I have a taste for rat stew today. lol

We don't eat rats/mice b/c we see them as filthy
rodents. Ppl from India don't eat cow b/c they see
them as sacred. I guess it's all about where/how
you were raised.

But I have this thing for horses.
Old time horse trainers say that horses are skidish
of ppl b/c they have never forgiven us for hunting them
b/f we domesticated them. Maybe that's just the kind
of fanciful thinking that goes into novels but to me
it kind of rings true.

“I'm just a country boy”

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Since: Feb 13

.Rooster Run, Ky

#17 Feb 27, 2013
arctic wrote:
<quoted text>
Right.
I know there are countries where dogs, cats and
even mice and rats are eaten. From what I can tell
it's more a matter of survival than it is....Gee,
I have a taste for rat stew today. lol
We don't eat rats/mice b/c we see them as filthy
rodents. Ppl from India don't eat cow b/c they see
them as sacred. I guess it's all about where/how
you were raised.
But I have this thing for horses.
Old time horse trainers say that horses are skidish
of ppl b/c they have never forgiven us for hunting them
b/f we domesticated them. Maybe that's just the kind
of fanciful thinking that goes into novels but to me
it kind of rings true.
A horse is "untrusting" until you have proven you are worthy of their trust. I befriended an Arabian when I was 12; I earned his trust and made friends and then he allowed me ride him bareback. No one ever rode that horse but me. He was bought by ignorant people and left "wild" so they thought. He was my friend for a couple of years, and no one ever knew he let me ride for an apple.

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Since: Nov 10

Powellton WV

#18 Feb 27, 2013
1CountryBumpkin wrote:
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A horse is "untrusting" until you have proven you are worthy of their trust. I befriended an Arabian when I was 12; I earned his trust and made friends and then he allowed me ride him bareback. No one ever rode that horse but me. He was bought by ignorant people and left "wild" so they thought. He was my friend for a couple of years, and no one ever knew he let me ride for an apple.
Arabians are so beautiful ...and smart.

Horses are often like that. Some take to
one person for reasons only they know.
What a great friend to have at 12.

“The Spotted Girl News Network”

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Spotted World

#19 Feb 27, 2013
arctic wrote:
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Not over Some animals.
Over domestic work animals.
If not for the dog and the
horse humans would not have
"evolved" into the dominate
animal on the planet.
They helped us w/everything
from security of families/tribes
to hunting/providing for said
families....ect....
We owe them a debt of gratitude.
And slaughtering them is a hell
of a way to pay back that debt.
Thank you for explaining. Still, a dog, a horse, a pig, a cow -flesh is flesh. I can understand why we don't eat each other for the most part. If we'd all stop being so self-righteous, there wouldn't be all the hunger in the world.

“The Spotted Girl News Network”

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Since: Apr 09

Spotted World

#20 Feb 27, 2013
arctic wrote:
<quoted text>
Right.
I know there are countries where dogs, cats and
even mice and rats are eaten. From what I can tell
it's more a matter of survival than it is....Gee,
I have a taste for rat stew today. lol
We don't eat rats/mice b/c we see them as filthy
rodents. Ppl from India don't eat cow b/c they see
them as sacred. I guess it's all about where/how
you were raised.
But I have this thing for horses.
Old time horse trainers say that horses are skidish
of ppl b/c they have never forgiven us for hunting them
b/f we domesticated them. Maybe that's just the kind
of fanciful thinking that goes into novels but to me
it kind of rings true.
Some don't eat rats and mice for the same reason you don't think anyone should eat dogs or horses. If you want to say "service animals," then rats and mice would qualify. Rats sniff out bombs and have been experimented on for years. I have a Facebook friend who is a rat aficionado. She posts pics of her precious rats all the time.

But I don't believe in this past debt crap. You only pay a debt to the individuals involved, not arbitrary others or reparations, etc. Animals don't have an ethnic memory and all that. So I see no problem in eating horses, dogs, or whatever that were explicitly bred for eating. Some are more radical in that view than me in that they would eat aborted fetuses. A doctor got in some hot water over doing just that. There was also a prank site online for years which claimed to sell human flesh.

Also, I find it stupid for people to let their beliefs about certain food items cause themselves or others to starve. Hey, lets call everything sacred and eat nothing. Plants are living organisms too, so for vegans to murder plants and eat them and not animals can be considered bigotry. Oh, the more radical of some won't eat anything that has to be killed for them, but they are not against eating what is discarded.

BTW, I'm just trying to challenge some thinking, not troll nor attack anyone's beliefs.

“I'm just a country boy”

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Since: Feb 13

.Rooster Run, Ky

#21 Feb 27, 2013
Spotted Girl wrote:
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Some don't eat rats and mice for the same reason you don't think anyone should eat dogs or horses. If you want to say "service animals," then rats and mice would qualify. Rats sniff out bombs and have been experimented on for years. I have a Facebook friend who is a rat aficionado. She posts pics of her precious rats all the time.
But I don't believe in this past debt crap. You only pay a debt to the individuals involved, not arbitrary others or reparations, etc. Animals don't have an ethnic memory and all that. So I see no problem in eating horses, dogs, or whatever that were explicitly bred for eating. Some are more radical in that view than me in that they would eat aborted fetuses. A doctor got in some hot water over doing just that. There was also a prank site online for years which claimed to sell human flesh.
Also, I find it stupid for people to let their beliefs about certain food items cause themselves or others to starve. Hey, lets call everything sacred and eat nothing. Plants are living organisms too, so for vegans to murder plants and eat them and not animals can be considered bigotry. Oh, the more radical of some won't eat anything that has to be killed for them, but they are not against eating what is discarded.
BTW, I'm just trying to challenge some thinking, not troll nor attack anyone's beliefs.
Your last sentence made all the difference in the world!
When we question, we learn...based upon that I say there is no such thing as a stupid question; if it's an honest question.

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#22 Feb 27, 2013
1CountryBumpkin wrote:
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Judged "Nuts", ha ha ha.
My Daddy used to tell me. them as have...don't have to brag, the women will do that for ya.
So true. LOL

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Since: Nov 10

Powellton WV

#23 Feb 28, 2013
Spotted Girl wrote:
<quoted text>
Some don't eat rats and mice for the same reason you don't think anyone should eat dogs or horses. If you want to say "service animals," then rats and mice would qualify. Rats sniff out bombs and have been experimented on for years. I have a Facebook friend who is a rat aficionado. She posts pics of her precious rats all the time.
But I don't believe in this past debt crap. You only pay a debt to the individuals involved, not arbitrary others or reparations, etc. Animals don't have an ethnic memory and all that. So I see no problem in eating horses, dogs, or whatever that were explicitly bred for eating. Some are more radical in that view than me in that they would eat aborted fetuses. A doctor got in some hot water over doing just that. There was also a prank site online for years which claimed to sell human flesh.
Also, I find it stupid for people to let their beliefs about certain food items cause themselves or others to starve. Hey, lets call everything sacred and eat nothing. Plants are living organisms too, so for vegans to murder plants and eat them and not animals can be considered bigotry. Oh, the more radical of some won't eat anything that has to be killed for them, but they are not against eating what is discarded.
BTW, I'm just trying to challenge some thinking, not troll nor attack anyone's beliefs.
I think we disregard animals too much.

There is starvation in the world not b/c
we don't have Enough food but b/c there
are too many poor ppl who just can't afford
food.
It's more a matter of economics than anything.

But ppl who don't honor animals...whether it be
for their contribution to us..society..or for
their meat value..they are just wrong. And
out of touch.

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