Take A Look Into Topix - Mass Bullyin...

Take A Look Into Topix - Mass Bullying Across Thousands Of Small US Towns

There are 562 comments on the Silicon Valley Watcher story from Feb 8, 2013, titled Take A Look Into Topix - Mass Bullying Across Thousands Of Small US Towns. In it, Silicon Valley Watcher reports that:

My name is Virginia Olive Hoge and I am in the strange and fated position of being one of the first people who noticed that something very alarming was happening on Topix.com. Over three and a half years ago, I noticed how it was being used as a vehicle for slander, to batter people online.

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“Incorrupta fides, nudaque veri”

Level 9

Since: May 07

Vincit qui se vincit

#79 Feb 12, 2013
Ricky F wrote:
<quoted text>I scour the local topix threads for local bullies to help bully local punks in my hometown lol
To help bully local punks in real life in my hometown is what I was trying to say lol

“Hello”

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#80 Feb 12, 2013
Ricky F wrote:
<quoted text>
To help bully local punks in real life in my hometown is what I was trying to say lol
That would be fun.I invited one to meet us after he trolled me for months saying disgusting things to me and declined,lol.They're all mouth on here,and nothing else ;).

“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

Level 9

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#81 Feb 12, 2013
arctic wrote:
The more reasonable, rational,
logical you are the more they attack.
God help you if you try to defend anyone
b/c then they attack.
And what are you going to do?
Sit back and take it up the tail
pipe that's what.
Hit them back with common reason and logic of a nature that they wouldn't understand anyway. LOL
Being Vigilant

Columbus, OH

#82 Feb 13, 2013
If trolling is that negative on topix.com , and if Topix doesn't have the time, resources, and labor to be able to address it and deal with it, then why don't some of you "greens" that know your way around take it upon yourselves to get together (via the PM communication feature) and schedule which forums to hit and take these evil trolls out one-by-one via "post vigilante style" -- kinda like Charles Bronson in the "Death Wish" movie series but without the actual deaths of course?

“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

Level 9

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#83 Feb 13, 2013
Being Vigilant wrote:
If trolling is that negative on topix.com , and if Topix doesn't have the time, resources, and labor to be able to address it and deal with it, then why don't some of you "greens" that know your way around take it upon yourselves to get together (via the PM communication feature) and schedule which forums to hit and take these evil trolls out one-by-one via "post vigilante style" -- kinda like Charles Bronson in the "Death Wish" movie series but without the actual deaths of course?
There are some that could take these trolls out of here one by one by posting personal info about them but those who do so could get in legal trouble by doing so.
What I can't understand is why doesn't topix handle this problem. Not having the time or resources is not an excuse for not doing anything about it.
IMO, They just don't want to cut into their profits is all. I am also of the opinion that Topix themselves contribute to this problem as well.

KnightPirate

“Supporting The Girl...”

Since: Jun 10

With A Heart Of Gold

#84 Feb 13, 2013
Being Vigilant wrote:
If trolling is that negative on topix.com , and if Topix doesn't have the time, resources, and labor to be able to address it and deal with it, then why don't some of you "greens" that know your way around take it upon yourselves to get together (via the PM communication feature) and schedule which forums to hit and take these evil trolls out one-by-one via "post vigilante style" -- kinda like Charles Bronson in the "Death Wish" movie series but without the actual deaths of course?
There was a group that tried that. They were known as the Topix Keepers. They were fairly well organized, had a website and command structure:
http://thetopixkeepers.webs.com/
Topix is so dysfunctional they eventually disbanded. Topix can be so toxic I seriously wonder if Anonymous would have any success cleaning up this circus.

“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

Level 9

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#85 Feb 13, 2013
KnightPirate wrote:
<quoted text>
There was a group that tried that. They were known as the Topix Keepers. They were fairly well organized, had a website and command structure:
http://thetopixkeepers.webs.com/
Topix is so dysfunctional they eventually disbanded. Topix can be so toxic I seriously wonder if Anonymous would have any success cleaning up this circus.
Some are working on it. This I do know.
It's a slippery slope though.

“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

Level 9

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#89 Feb 13, 2013
Carl Bad wrote:
<quoted text>
It has been tried before, doesn't work. Instead of going after the worst offenders it devolves into personal vendetta.
The best policy is not to feed the trolls and to use the feed back system. IMHO
Seems to me that the ones who use the feedback system the most are the ones who get banned.

_Olive_

“unstoppable”

Since: Jul 11

Hell

#91 Feb 13, 2013
KnightPirate wrote:
<quoted text>
There was a group that tried that. They were known as the Topix Keepers. They were fairly well organized, had a website and command structure:
http://thetopixkeepers.webs.com/
Topix is so dysfunctional they eventually disbanded. Topix can be so toxic I seriously wonder if Anonymous would have any success cleaning up this circus.
Hello KP. When I read PI's welcome message on the Keeper page, I feel it was such a good idea, basically, and would have greatly helped Topix, saved innocent lives, dealt with severe problems, and at no cost to Topix. He never advocated for the posting of PI, the method he suggested was primarily counter-trolling, teaching posters how to do this.

http://thetopixkeepers.webs.com/about.htm

He kept an archive a great advice, from Demonic Penguin, etc. I will look for the link to Demonic Penguin's incredible posting about how to counter-troll, what a mind he had.

Chris Tolles did say that this was our forum to make of what we want. But the paranoia the company had about the Topix Keepers, tolerated the huge trolling, much of it on the Mod threads, that eventually made them say, it wasn't worth it, all of the time was having to be spent in defense and not in topix keeping. Of course, the very concept annoyed plenty of trolls also, but they backed off eventually, it was the non-stop grey box trolling that was so below-the-belt.

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TNFRBC9...

I have seen around Topix, people doing what the TK's did though, all it really takes is seeing a real-name attack thread, posting on it that they are invading someone's privacy, its none of their business. Some towns are turning around their own forums, just by enough people speaking out, saying Enough.

Hegel

“The Force is with me”

Since: Mar 10

Earth

#92 Feb 13, 2013
KnightPirate wrote:
<quoted text>
There was a group that tried that. They were known as the Topix Keepers. They were fairly well organized, had a website and command structure:
http://thetopixkeepers.webs.com/
Topix is so dysfunctional they eventually disbanded. Topix can be so toxic I seriously wonder if Anonymous would have any success cleaning up this circus.
I'd rather Anonymous focused on continuing to torment Scientology. Once they've brought them to their knees they'll be ready for Topix.

Hegel

“The Force is with me”

Since: Mar 10

Earth

#95 Feb 13, 2013
Ill-Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks Carl. You are correct but the spelling police have been chasing me for a while now.
I hope you told them to eff the eff off.

Do I win for using the most 'f's in a single sentence????

Hegel

“The Force is with me”

Since: Mar 10

Earth

#96 Feb 13, 2013
Carl Bad wrote:
<quoted text>
tolles vs L Ron Hubbard, kinda hard to know who to root for
As far as I know Tolles doesn't hold people against their will.....although the moderators may tell a different story. It would explain a lot.

-Kevin-
Level 10

Since: Nov 09

Smirk .. ;-)

#97 Feb 13, 2013
Carl Bad wrote:
<quoted text>It has been tried before, doesn't work. Instead of going after the worst offenders it devolves into personal vendetta.

The best policy is not to feed the trolls and to use the feed back system. IMHO
This

_Olive_

“unstoppable”

Since: Jul 11

Hell

#99 Feb 13, 2013
Carl Bad wrote:
<quoted text>
It has been tried before, doesn't work. Instead of going after the worst offenders it devolves into personal vendetta.
The best policy is not to feed the trolls and to use the feed back system. IMHO
You have acted much more like a Topix Cop than the TKs ever did. Outing PI, the works, huge amounts of bullying.

Personal vendetta? and how.

Hegel

“The Force is with me”

Since: Mar 10

Earth

#101 Feb 13, 2013
Carl Bad wrote:
<quoted text>
It has been tried before, doesn't work. Instead of going after the worst offenders it devolves into personal vendetta.
The best policy is not to feed the trolls and to use the feed back system. IMHO
Would you say this is an example of feeding a troll, poking it with a stick, devolving, etc..... or just trolling? I keep tilting my view finder but can't seem to put a name to it.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/paris-tx/TCUP...

It's probably just a 99 page anomaly;)

Hegel

“The Force is with me”

Since: Mar 10

Earth

#103 Feb 13, 2013
Carl Bad wrote:
<quoted text>
I was kidding, check out tony ortega's blog.
the internet is $cientology's Viet Nam
I knew you were kidding;)

I've been reading Ortega (and the Village Voice) for a while now and I love Underground Bunker. Oh, how they must hate him. He's been declared an SP. I'm sure that broke his heart.

KnightPirate

“Supporting The Girl...”

Since: Jun 10

With A Heart Of Gold

#106 Feb 13, 2013
Carl Bad wrote:
<quoted text>
Toxic Keepers was a joke. Consider the cougar and teen membership.
Lord knows I made plenty of fun of that. I got involved when they made Air Cav a member. They finally tossed him and by then Ginny and I were at each other. Funny thing is after all the Keepers crap, Ginny wars and TM 15's involvement Ginny and I are now civil to each other. I even get a PM from Tank now and then.

KnightPirate

“Supporting The Girl...”

Since: Jun 10

With A Heart Of Gold

#107 Feb 13, 2013
_Olive_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello KP. When I read PI's welcome message on the Keeper page, I feel it was such a good idea, basically, and would have greatly helped Topix, saved innocent lives, dealt with severe problems, and at no cost to Topix. He never advocated for the posting of PI, the method he suggested was primarily counter-trolling, teaching posters how to do this.
http://thetopixkeepers.webs.com/about.htm
He kept an archive a great advice, from Demonic Penguin, etc. I will look for the link to Demonic Penguin's incredible posting about how to counter-troll, what a mind he had.
Chris Tolles did say that this was our forum to make of what we want. But the paranoia the company had about the Topix Keepers, tolerated the huge trolling, much of it on the Mod threads, that eventually made them say, it wasn't worth it, all of the time was having to be spent in defense and not in topix keeping. Of course, the very concept annoyed plenty of trolls also, but they backed off eventually, it was the non-stop grey box trolling that was so below-the-belt.
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TNFRBC9...
I have seen around Topix, people doing what the TK's did though, all it really takes is seeing a real-name attack thread, posting on it that they are invading someone's privacy, its none of their business. Some towns are turning around their own forums, just by enough people speaking out, saying Enough.
I don't know if the Keepers were ever going to save innocent lives Pooh Bear. In the six years I've been on Topix it's clear the Mods are losing the battle with trolls. The best way to fight a troll is ignore them. At least it works for me.

Hegel

“The Force is with me”

Since: Mar 10

Earth

#108 Feb 13, 2013
Ill-Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
I've done more than that Hegel.
That's why I'm on my 4th Ill Bill account.
So you're saying they can't take a joke?

Hegel

“The Force is with me”

Since: Mar 10

Earth

#109 Feb 13, 2013
Ill-Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
That looks more like a sock parade all marching to the same tune of the Pie Eyed Piper.
Yeah, what better way to ignore a troll, huh?

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