Hillary Clinton should run for Presid...

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#120 Feb 15, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
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I love the hypocrisy of the left. Mother nature causes a massive hurricane to wipe out New Orleans and everyone blames Bush because he can’t control nature or snap his fingers and immediately rescue the ton of people who were trapped because they were too dumb to heed warnings to GTFO.
Then you’ve got Benghazi, where the State Department even acknowledged that it rejected appeals for more security despite receiving warnings months before from both Libyan, U.S., and allied intelligence agencies that the region was becoming very dangerous, and folks on the left are like well that was just a unpredictable tragedy and it’s no one’s fault.
On top of that, you’ve got an INDEPENDENT report that says there were "systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies" in the state department and people are STILL like, nope, even though she is in charge of it, it wasn’t her fault … she has no control over the leadership and management of the state department, even though she’s in charge of leading it and managing it.
It also wasn’t unpredictable, contrary to what you think:
In the months before the deadly attack in Benghazi, Libya, U.S. and allied intelligence agencies warned the White House and State Department repeatedly that the region was becoming an increasingly dangerous vortex for jihadist groups loosely linked or sympathetic to al Qaeda, according to U.S. officials.
On June 11, a rocket-propelled grenade was fired at Sir Dominic Asquith, the British ambassador, as he drove through the city. He was unscathed, but two of his bodyguards were injured. Britain responded by closing its diplomatic office in Benghazi and withdrawing all UK staff. Five days earlier, unknown assailants had thrown an improvised explosive device at the gates of the US consulate in the middle of the night, causing no injuries.
"Mother nature causes a massive hurricane to wipe out New Orleans and everyone blames Bush because he can’t control nature or snap his fingers and immediately rescue the ton of people who were trapped because they were too dumb to heed warnings to GTFO".......

I thought Russia sent that and some of the other hurricanes across the ocean from over seas? lol

Did you ever hear that one? LMAO?!

BTW, I agree about the "hypocrisy"!
Mia

Seymour, CT

#121 Feb 15, 2013
African_shadows wrote:
Who's with me on this one?
I think she would make a fine leader.
I am.
I think she's terrific and if she runs for president she has my vote.
Mia

Seymour, CT

#122 Feb 15, 2013
Sundog512 wrote:
I'm not sure how we can hold Hillary completely responsible for Benghazi when it was the republican House that cut funding for embassy security.
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regio...

Good point.
Mia

Seymour, CT

#123 Feb 15, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
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I love the hypocrisy of the left. Mother nature causes a massive hurricane to wipe out New Orleans and everyone blames Bush because he can’t control nature or snap his fingers and immediately rescue the ton of people who were trapped
We didn't blame him because he couldn't control nature or snap his fingers :b
We blamed him for waiting four days before he did anything.

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#124 Feb 15, 2013
Sundog512 wrote:
Discussion? You call people dummies and then claim you are having a discussion? LMAO. Your inability to understand is not a reflection on the substance of my posts.
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Except for 2 things (one of which I already addressed and heard no substantive response from and another which I will shortly address), you've not said anything of substance for me to understand.

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#125 Feb 15, 2013
Sundog512 wrote:
Jesus, you are verbose. Now if you could just say something when you string all these words together.
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Political discussions and policy discussions often times cannot be handled via twitter posts. Perhaps you are not cut out for this...
Mia

Seymour, CT

#126 Feb 15, 2013
Ferrerman wrote:
Except for the nine or so times they happened during the Bush administration, attacks on embassies and consulates never happened during the Bush administration....

Were there that many?
Seems like they didn't make the same fuss over those like they did this one.
I think they just have a hard on for Hillary.

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Smirk .. ;-)

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#128 Feb 15, 2013
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You mean the program that was started by Reagan and then extended to include cell phones under BUSH?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-ph...
Christ, you people will believe anything Fox News tells you. So predictable.
I already knew that was started by Bush. In fact there was a thread on here about that and I think I was the first one to say so.

However, unlike you, I don't just stop with that tidbit of information and say, well case close. Nope, I go onto ask ... so what does this mean.

Let me ask Sundog, what does it mean when Obama continues with policy decisions that Bush made? Seems to me, when he continues with them, despite not being required to do so, that he ratifies them. To the degree he continues with poor policy decisions of Bush, he is just as culpable as Bush was and is for poor policy decisions.

Of course Obama isn't going to stop giving away free phones. Heck, in terms of free phones, Bush already did the "research" for Obama and figured out a type of government action that would successfully make their lives better. I think Obama should thank him.

The fact is, in so very many regards Obama has been nothing but a continuation of Bush and his policies, which is sooooo funny considering folks who love Obama, hated Bush so much. If Bush hadn't started that war in Iraq, I would say except for a few minor areas (gay marriage being one of them ... and I like that Obama is more open to the idea and working to end discrimination in that regard), they are cut from the same exact cloth.

Bush instituted free phones. Obama continued with it. Bush created the prescription drug plan for seniors (despite the fact that we were taking on too much debt even without it), and didn't bother to fund it (which means our children and grandchildren will eventually paying for the prescription drugs of todays seniors)... Obama instead of funding it, left it exactly as it was and kept adding all the costs for it to our national debt .... rather than fixing it ... he pulled a Bush and created Obamacare, despite the fact that we are taking on massive debt and really can't afford another massive entitlement program.

It's pointless having any discussions with you. You are like Ferrerman. I've been posting with the guy for almost 5 years and not once have I ever heard him acknowledge ... not even one time ... that any liberal has done anything wrong. Is it so hard to say, you know, you make a good point, but no one is perfect Sublime ... that may not be very good policy, but he's done a lot of other good things that I like and on the balance I think he is a good President. I'll never get that from him and I'll never get that from you. You don't get that from partisan hacks...

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#129 Feb 15, 2013
Mia wrote:
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Were there that many?
Seems like they didn't make the same fuss over those like they did this one.
I think they just have a hard on for Hillary.
Did we have intelligence warnings from both U.S. intelligence and foreign intelligence, prior to those attacks, Mia?

Were ambassadors of allied nations attacked in those countries leading up to those attacks, Mia?

Despite intelligence warnings and despite previous attacks on allied ambassadors, leading up to those attacks, did the Bush state department REPEATEDLY deny these embassies additional protection?

If all these things are true, I'd say you have a point. I've asked Ferrerman and Sundog more the Bush embassy attacks shared these aspects and all I've gotten is crickets in response. That is to be expected from partisan hacks.

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#130 Feb 15, 2013
-Kevin- wrote:
Who cares about that ... after seeing that picture, I wanna go to the aquavit-tasting festival!!!

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#131 Feb 15, 2013
Ricky F wrote:
<quoted text>All you have to do Sublime is look across the border to Mexico and see what kind of shape they're in, has anyone ever thought about birth control in that country? lol
I don't believe importing poverty is good for America. I think we have enough of it as it is and should do more to prevent it.

I point stuff like this out and intelligent folks like Sundog say, but we are a nation of immigrants. Their massive brain power, however fails to appreciate that when most of the people immigrated here (including all of my ancestors), there was no welfare state. You couldn't come here and have American taxpayers pay to raise your children or provide you with medical care. You had to do it ALL ON YOUR OWN. It also didn't cost as much to live her, back then as it does now. Back then, you had a baby in a log cabin and the doctor came to your house to deliver it and you gave him two chickens and a rooster as payment. Many times kids went to school in a one room shack, where one teacher taught everyone, no matter what grade they were in.

Things are not the same as they used to be. It costs a lot of money to live in America and to the extent you have little education, can't speak English and are pretty much stuck make minimum wage doing unskilled labor, Americans have to pick up the slack and make up the difference for what it costs to live here.

They also ignore the fact that our economy has matured and developed. We aren't experiencing rapid growth like we used to back in the day. On top of that, there isn't free land to give away to folks for pennies, like their used to be. When our economy is growing at 3% rates, which I think going forward, will be about the best we can expect, that's not fast enough to take on masses of uneducated impoverished people from foreign lands ... that's only fast enough to give more Americans jobs who need them just because of population growth.
Mia

Seymour, CT

#132 Feb 15, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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let's see just how easy it is, because I guarantee that a 2 year COULDN'T do the job.....

That is one of the MOST ASININE comments I have EVER read on Topix........man, you are truly blind!!!
I can attest to that....I had to stop my 2 yr old from putting peas up his nose.

That wasn't *the most* assine post I've ever read....but it's up there in the top ten.

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#133 Feb 15, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
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Who cares about that ... after seeing that picture, I wanna go to the aquavit-tasting festival!!!
Just getting a chuckle at their pre-emptive call. Obama has been given a lot of things before he deserved them based on preconceived notions that have been untrue.

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#134 Feb 15, 2013
Mia wrote:
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I can attest to that....I had to stop my 2 yr old from putting peas up his nose.
I didn't know you were a MILF!

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#135 Feb 15, 2013
-Kevin- wrote:
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Just getting a chuckle at their pre-emptive call. Obama has been given a lot of things before he deserved them based on preconceived notions that have been untrue.
I think a lot of people wanted him to be what he said he was gonna be, especially after 8 years of Bush (I know we disagree about him). I wanted to, as well. That is why I voted for him the first time. He turned out to be a fraud, unfortunately.

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#136 Feb 15, 2013
Mia wrote:
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We didn't blame him because he couldn't control nature or snap his fingers :b
We blamed him for waiting four days before he did anything.
They didn't wait days before doing anything. The scale of destruction was unprecedented. It was also exacerbated because thousands of retarded people refused to evacuate. How are you supposed to prepare for that?

That was a massive disaster and far worse than hurricane Sandy. Even after Sandy, people were suffering, huddled in dark homes--if they had a home left--without heat or light. People were left homeless. Some scrounging through piles of donated clothing because everything they have except the clothes they're wearing gone.

Based on his response to Sandy, I doubt Obama would have handled Katrina any better. It was just so big of a disaster.
Mia

Seymour, CT

#137 Feb 15, 2013
Sundog512 wrote:
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You mean the program that was started by Reagan and then extended to include cell phones under BUSH?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-ph...
Christ, you people will believe anything Fox News tells you. So predictable.
Fox news is good for one thing---comic relief.
It's also where Jon Stewart gets some of his best material. Love him.

-Kevin-
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Smirk .. ;-)

#138 Feb 15, 2013
No different than MSNBC as far as shilling goes.

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#139 Feb 15, 2013
Mia wrote:
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We didn't blame him because he couldn't control nature or snap his fingers :b
We blamed him for waiting four days before he did anything.
Exactly. They refuse to get that part. Still.

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