9/11 remembrance

[_Ginny_]

Today is September 11 2010, 9 years after the attacks on the World Trade Center.

I was an eye witness to the attacks on the World Trade Center. I was living in New York and was in Greenwich Village that morning. I was leaving a building and someone came though the door and told me a plane had just hit Tower 1. Yeah right, was my thought, sure, as I headed out the door.

When I reached the corner I saw a crowd of people gathered watching the black smoke spew from the giant, airplane-shaped hole at the top of Tower 1.

As we were watching suddenly a plane came from the back and exploded into Tower 2. A huge fire plume burst forth and people started screaming. I just stood riveted, I could not believe it. People were screaming and crying. But the strange part is, some people actually left the crowd and headed for work, they were so caught into their schedules, they didn't understand the magnitude of what had just happened. I headed straight for the train and caught the last running trains home to Brooklyn, right before they shut down. When I reached Brooklyn, someone on the street told me Tower 2 had collapsed. Yeah right I thought, only to find out they were again, right. Everyone who went to work, was forced to walk home that day, through the smoke and ashes.

One thing I realized instantly was that this attack came from Hate, that it was hatred that caused it, nothing less. I knew at that moment and continue to know it, that hate cannot be solved with hate, that what was needed was reconciliation and urgent problem solving. As we all know, this was not what happened and we are still engaged in pointless wars over this disaster.

[seen it before]

Ginny Hoge wrote:

....that hate cannot be solved with hate,.....

This is the true lesson of this day. Let us learn it well.

[_Ginny_]

I deeply believe the message I learned from seeing what I saw 9 years ago, and it was a profound experience, can be applied to Topix.

"One thing I realized instantly was that this attack came from Hate, that it was hatred that caused it, nothing less. I knew at that moment and continue to know it, that hate cannot be solved with hate."

You cannot solve or accomplish anything with Hate, I believe that. It may seem so because it is powerful, but this is not true. You cannot solve anything with hate.

[_Ginny_]

Topix, its not cool to censor non-offensive comments, publish my comment.

I deeply believe the message I learned from seeing what I saw 9 years ago, and it was a profound experience, can be applied to Topix.

"One thing I realized instantly was that this attack came from Hate, that it was hatred that caused it, nothing less. I knew at that moment and continue to know it, that hate cannot be solved with hate."

You cannot solve or accomplish anything with Hate, I believe that. It may seem so because it is powerful, but this is not true. You cannot solve anything with hate.

[_Ginny_]

thank you.

[just -J-]

I was in traffic court in Erin Tn that morning.In my wallet I still carry the receipt where I paid the ticket. I will never forget that morning.

[Cathouse Mouse]

People who hate Muslims and oppose bulding a worship center in NY becuase "ground zero is hallowed grounds" should consider this,

There were prayer rooms in each of the twin Towers. By the definition provided by those opposing Muslims building their worship center, this constitutes that both Towers were Mosques.

If two Mosques were buried in the rubble of the Twin Towers from the attacks on 9-11, who has the right to say Muslims don't belong at ground zero?

Read it in the NY Times;

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/11/nyregion/11...

[just -J-]

Cathouse Mouse wrote:

People who hate Muslims and oppose bulding a worship center in NY becuase "ground zero is hallowed grounds" should consider this,
There were prayer rooms in each of the twin Towers. By the definition provided by those opposing Muslims building their worship center, this constitutes that both Towers were Mosques.
If two Mosques were buried in the rubble of the Twin Towers from the attacks on 9-11, who has the right to say Muslims don't belong at ground zero?
Read it in the NY Times;
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/11/nyregion/11...

I don't think Ginny started this thread to Bash anyone or spread hatetred toward anyone.I think her intent is rememberance to the ones that died that sad day.Muslims included.

[_Ginny_]

I love this Martin Luther King quote, j lo, and it applies here:

"Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." - Martin Luther King

[_Ginny_]

^ oh looky here, someone gave Martin Luther King a peanut.

[just -J-]

Ginny Hoge wrote:

I love this Martin Luther King quote, j lo, and it applies here:
"Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." - Martin Luther King

Piss on the peanut I agree. Hate will be the death of us all Ginny.

[_Ginny_]

j lo 1 wrote:

<quoted text>Piss on the peanut I agree. Hate will be the death of us all Ginny.

absolutely, j lo!

[_Virginia_]

I posted this thread last year, I am bringing it back on this sad day, the 10 year anniversary of 9/11.

My thoughts today are with the families and friends of the victims, I had friends who died there also. Their children and wives and husbands, have been left to spend the rest of their lives without them, tragedies like this one do not end.

However, I deeply believe this to be true:

"Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." - Martin Luther King

[_Olive_]

It seems like yesterday, but it was 11 years ago today, that I walked to the corner, to the crowd gathered there, and saw Trade Tower 2, on fire.

The huge grey-black cloud of smoke that billowed from the Tower... knowing exactly what it was like in there, working in Manhattan as a freelancer also. The sheer terror as the lights went out, the air-conditioning off, the smell of smoke, the heat.

Having gone to work that day, expecting another, normal day, not your last day on Earth.

My heart goes out to the still-grieving families and friends. I saw their ache first-hand, as tears poured down their eyes as they walked through the smokey streets of Manhattan, with a stack of fliers on their arms, with pictures of someone they loved on them, looking for them. I saw those tears.

I will never forget that, or them. My prayers are with them today.

[politely observant]

http://youtu.be/c9PwWkV4HQ4

[Naturally Wired]

Yeah yeah whatever. Not all muslims are terrorists, lets not be hateful blah blah.

Islam spawns more terrorists and anti-west ideological groups you can't even count. You know what those ideological groups are right?....those are the ones comitting no violence but preach of a cultural jihad on the west and our stupid f'ing govts allow more and more everyday to come here.

I surely remember that day. I surely remember the victims and their families. I also surely remember islam.

[Ricky F]

Excellent thread!

[Ricky F]

Naturally Wired wrote:

Yeah yeah whatever. Not all muslims are terrorists, lets not be hateful blah blah.
Islam spawns more terrorists and anti-west ideological groups you can't even count. You know what those ideological groups are right?....those are the ones comitting no violence but preach of a cultural jihad on the west and our stupid f'ing govts allow more and more everyday to come here.
I surely remember that day. I surely remember the victims and their families. I also surely remember islam.

Hell yes!

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[_Olive_]

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