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#19674 Oct 24, 2013
Rose of Tralee wrote:
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I'm trying to watch the program from the link I provided, but, dang it! I'm having real troubles with the program streaming propery. I'll have to try later.
I do know that there are levels of what I think of as deprivation among the Mennonites. A Mennonite man who became an acquaintance of mine, was here for a year getting an advanced degree. Originally a farmer's son from Ontario, after his studies, he was able to get a post as a minister in Souderton, PA. Didn't strike me as someone who skipped out on pleasure. In fact, I recall that he was all 'Happy Higamen' when U2 came to town. He wore a cropped beard, and his wife didn't seem to wear a stitch of makeup. Maybe he became a minister because he wasn't inheriting the farm? I do know that if it were not for the traveling nature of the Scots Irish, and the 'stay put' nature of the Anabaptist, we might have become a German speaking nation.
And what, pray tell, would be so bad about speaking German I ask?

Well????? I'm waiting young lady. O_O

*folds arms and taps foot*

“Grrrrr”

Level 8

Since: Jan 12

Barbi and Baron

#19676 Oct 25, 2013
rubygoober wrote:
Hello everyone~~
Just wanted to stop by, I have something on my mind
and I'm getting more and more po'd over it as the
Day wears on.
What is it going to take for us to wake up and stop
buying crap from China, pet food and treats in particular?
Another story of pets in the US being stricken, some dying from eating a jerky treat made and imported from China. This includes cats, from
eating China made cat treats.
I strongly advice that pet lovers check the label,
especially if it is coming from a dollar store.
It's just not worth it, save yourself the heartbreak and expense by not buying the crap.
Thanks for letting me vent, I'll shut up now...
I don't intentionally buy anything made in China...but it's hard, like Richard Barlow posted.
I just checked Baron's dog food and that's made in Montana, interestingly enough.
His cheddar, bacon, and cheese treats are made here in California and there are a couple of USA flags on the package, so I think there's a strong movement underway to alert us.
I am suspicious of his "Happy Hips" treat because the label doesn't say anything.

“Grrrrr”

Level 8

Since: Jan 12

Barbi and Baron

#19677 Oct 25, 2013
Richard Barlow wrote:
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Hey Ms Barbi. Bout time you showed up. Thought we were going to have to call out search and rescue.
Hi Richard! A few of my friends knew I was fine; I should have messaged you.
I was suffering from Topix burn out and decided to pull the needle from my vein for awhile. I did it long enough to see how ridiculous Topix can be - IF you let it.
Now, I post to chat a little, but I kind of time myself, too! Don't want to get pulled back into the silly drama. It's so easy now to ignore the trolling and negative posts.
Nothing seems to upset me anymore!

“Revolution: won't be televised”

Level 6

Since: Sep 12

United States

#19679 Oct 25, 2013
Deer Whisperer wrote:
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Aye that, lass! You've pegged me family roots, ye did! One side goes to the Scots-Irish with English mixed in; the other Anabaptist mix of German-English.
Mom (Scots-Irish) was more of a gad-about than Dad.
Nearly the same as my husbands. Pennsylvania Dutch and a father who immigrated here from Edinburgh

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Level 6

Since: Sep 12

United States

#19680 Oct 25, 2013
Richard Barlow wrote:
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No such thing as a "good for nothing garden" if you're comfortable in it.
Hi Ms Rose. Hope all is well on your end. The weather been treating you right? Perfect here. But, anytime that the fireplace gets fired up is perfect weather for me.:)
Still warm here. Took a hike up Big Santa Anita Canyon to Sturvant Falls yesterday.(Who says we don't have seasons here - the sycamore are changing color as we speak.) Anyhow SAC is a canyon above Santa Anita race track. Interesting history. It's full of small cabins that can only be reached by foot, and what is the last remaining pack mule station in Southern California. Here's a photo I took of one of the cabins. This has got to be the largest of them in that it's two stories. Kind of had to sneak in to get the photo. Don't tell

http://tinyurl.com/n7je44t

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Level 6

Since: Sep 12

United States

#19681 Oct 25, 2013
here's a video of the mule/donkey train getting ready to visit the cabins



love that I can be here in a 1/2 hour
A noted observer

Palatine, IL

#19682 Oct 25, 2013
Rose of Tralee wrote:
here's a video of the mule/donkey train getting ready to visit the cabins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =-vxCSEovr_QXX
love that I can be here in a 1/2 hour
Are they hauling Borax?
A noted observer

Palatine, IL

#19683 Oct 25, 2013
Rose of Tralee wrote:
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She is powerful. Proof is in the inordinate amount of neggits you received for introducing her. Seems your KKK loving detractors are misogynist too.
Powerful poetry and insight, indeed.

I also loved the approving finger-snapping!

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Level 6

Since: Sep 12

United States

#19684 Oct 25, 2013
ok - that file was way to big. The same cabin is on this flickr set. No - don't know the guy is, but his vanity plate says he's a scientist type (JPL) who likes to go around naked. We have a few of those

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kansas_sebastian...

“Grrrrr”

Level 8

Since: Jan 12

Barbi and Baron

#19685 Oct 25, 2013
Rose of Tralee wrote:
ok - that file was way to big. The same cabin is on this flickr set. No - don't know the guy is, but his vanity plate says he's a scientist type (JPL) who likes to go around naked. We have a few of those
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kansas_sebastian...
Wow Rose! Gorgeous! Some of that scenery reminds me of where I grew up. Particularly the one that shows the green mountains.
Are all those cabins abandoned? Would love to hole up in one of those.

Since: May 12

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#19686 Oct 26, 2013
Barbi A wrote:
<quoted text>Hi Richard! A few of my friends knew I was fine; I should have messaged you.
I was suffering from Topix burn out and decided to pull the needle from my vein for awhile. I did it long enough to see how ridiculous Topix can be - IF you let it.
Now, I post to chat a little, but I kind of time myself, too! Don't want to get pulled back into the silly drama. It's so easy now to ignore the trolling and negative posts.
Nothing seems to upset me anymore!
Morning Ms Barbi. Hope all is well down your way.

I completely understand your disatisfaction with topix. The idiocy that runs rampant in here, is both funny and sad at the same time. The amount of posters that seem to "live" on here is astounding. The best one though, in my opinion, is the one that claims every greybox is whomever they want them to be. I can't of that without letting out a little chuckle. And the idea that it is some kind of "master troll" illicites an outright laugh. But it's entertaining to watch none the less.

It's holiday time again. Any plans yet? Same thing around here. The kids go to their inlaws for thanksgiving, then gather here for christmas and new years. The difference this year though, is that there will be an addition to our clan. The youngest daughter in law is having a c-section on the 25th of next month. Another Grandaughter. I wish they would stop having babies. I feel old enough already without their help.:)

Enjoy your day. I'm going to get back to breakfast and on to more chores. Later

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Level 6

Since: Sep 12

United States

#19687 Oct 26, 2013
Barbi A wrote:
<quoted text>Wow Rose! Gorgeous! Some of that scenery reminds me of where I grew up. Particularly the one that shows the green mountains.
Are all those cabins abandoned? Would love to hole up in one of those.
They actually aren't abandoned, though the forrest service wishes they were. They do come up on the market once in awhile. They tend to stay in the family for generations. As I understand it, you pay the USDA Forrest Service one dollar a year to lease the land that the cabin sits on. Part of the deal is that you can't live there full time.

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Level 6

Since: Sep 12

United States

#19688 Oct 26, 2013
Richard Barlow wrote:
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Morning Ms Barbi. Hope all is well down your way.
I completely understand your disatisfaction with topix. The idiocy that runs rampant in here, is both funny and sad at the same time. The amount of posters that seem to "live" on here is astounding. The best one though, in my opinion, is the one that claims every greybox is whomever they want them to be. I can't of that without letting out a little chuckle. And the idea that it is some kind of "master troll" illicites an outright laugh. But it's entertaining to watch none the less.
That one suffers from laziness and lies. Why he's never left home. A man of short cuts. Real talent takes chances. It's not a part time thing.
Koch fiend

Palatine, IL

#19689 Oct 26, 2013
Rose of Tralee wrote:
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They actually aren't abandoned, though the forrest service wishes they were. They do come up on the market once in awhile. They tend to stay in the family for generations. As I understand it, you pay the USDA Forrest Service one dollar a year to lease the land that the cabin sits on. Part of the deal is that you can't live there full time.
We need to privatize our national forests, tear down those shacks and build estates! A dollar a year is communism. Make it $2 and available only to well-respected investor/citizens. And squash healthcare. And why aren't we hunting poor people for sport? Sometimes I really wonder about this country.

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Level 6

Since: Sep 12

United States

#19690 Oct 26, 2013
Koch fiend wrote:
<quoted text>We need to privatize our national forests, tear down those shacks and build estates! A dollar a year is communism. Make it $2 and available only to well-respected investor/citizens. And squash healthcare. And why aren't we hunting poor people for sport? Sometimes I really wonder about this country.
Well Mr Koch Fiend, we do have something like that going on locally. We've sold our souls to "a better tomorrow" via Vulcan quarry. Thank you A to Z Azuza. The most beautiful falls in our local mountains are in a place called Fish Canyon. Problem is, to get to the trail head you have to go through the quarry grounds. This has been a huge issue in terms of access to public lands. Vulcan is a dirty player (in more ways then concrete). They built us a trail that adds ten treacherous miles (they are, I've tried) to an otherwise reasonable 5 mile hike. Then they opened it up once a month with a courtesy 'pick up van" at the company gates to escort hikers to the trail head. In the meantime they use that access as a bargaining chip. Currently the residents under the 'blasted mountain' are trying to stop Vulcan from removing another mountain face. When anyone fights them, they remove access... Case in point

http://azusarock.com/calendar.html
Koch fiend

Palatine, IL

#19691 Oct 26, 2013
Rose of Tralee wrote:
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Well Mr Koch Fiend, we do have something like that going on locally. We've sold our souls to "a better tomorrow" via Vulcan quarry. Thank you A to Z Azuza. The most beautiful falls in our local mountains are in a place called Fish Canyon. Problem is, to get to the trail head you have to go through the quarry grounds. This has been a huge issue in terms of access to public lands. Vulcan is a dirty player (in more ways then concrete). They built us a trail that adds ten treacherous miles (they are, I've tried) to an otherwise reasonable 5 mile hike. Then they opened it up once a month with a courtesy 'pick up van" at the company gates to escort hikers to the trail head. In the meantime they use that access as a bargaining chip. Currently the residents under the 'blasted mountain' are trying to stop Vulcan from removing another mountain face. When anyone fights them, they remove access... Case in point
http://azusarock.com/calendar.html
Well, MY advice is you people get off your lazy, spankable bottoms, get up and grease the palms of local politicos like Vulcan surely is! Show some initiative!

People- and by "people" I mean "people"- get up out the Lazy Boys, start up a corporation and get rich! THEN you can call the shots! AND get free sh!t from the government- like money and tax-payer supplied healthcare for your employees! The only thing stopping you from being Walmart or McDonalds is initiative.

This "we the people" always struck me as kinda 'socialist', ya know? Like Russia or the Amish.

Since: May 12

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#19692 Oct 27, 2013
Rose of Tralee wrote:
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Well Mr Koch Fiend, we do have something like that going on locally. We've sold our souls to "a better tomorrow" via Vulcan quarry. Thank you A to Z Azuza. The most beautiful falls in our local mountains are in a place called Fish Canyon. Problem is, to get to the trail head you have to go through the quarry grounds. This has been a huge issue in terms of access to public lands. Vulcan is a dirty player (in more ways then concrete). They built us a trail that adds ten treacherous miles (they are, I've tried) to an otherwise reasonable 5 mile hike. Then they opened it up once a month with a courtesy 'pick up van" at the company gates to escort hikers to the trail head. In the meantime they use that access as a bargaining chip. Currently the residents under the 'blasted mountain' are trying to stop Vulcan from removing another mountain face. When anyone fights them, they remove access... Case in point
http://azusarock.com/calendar.html
Don't let anyone from Grand Rivers, KY hear you say anything bad about Vulcan Materials. You'll start getting the nastiest emails you've ever read. They practically turned that place into a ghost town just to ensure their existence.

Morning Ms Rose. Hope you are doing well this fine day. Waiting on the snow to roll in. I hope this winter is a good one. Two dams in the area have stopped releasing water so far, and a few others are debating about doing the same. Palisades in Idaho is about 32' below normal at the moment. The problem that they are having, is that their dam is a power producer. If they close the gates, the snake river dries up and power has to be bought from elsewhere at a much higher cost. In order to get enough water to fill these lakes back up, those down stream will need to be ready for flooding. Not all of the snow melt goes to the lakes up here. A mountain has two sides. Our lakes only get water from one side. The other goes into streams and rivers to those in the flatlands. Therefor, flooding. We're in a no win situation at the moment. A winter with not much snow, higher energy costs. A winter with an abundance of snow, flooding in the low lands. Kind of a catch 22.

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Level 6

Since: Sep 12

United States

#19693 Oct 27, 2013
That darn Banksy. Couldn't agree more

http://gawker.com/banksy-bashes-design-of-wor...

RIP Loud Reed

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Level 6

Since: Sep 12

United States

#19694 Oct 27, 2013
Richard Barlow wrote:
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Don't let anyone from Grand Rivers, KY hear you say anything bad about Vulcan Materials. You'll start getting the nastiest emails you've ever read. They practically turned that place into a ghost town just to ensure their existence.
Morning Ms Rose. Hope you are doing well this fine day. Waiting on the snow to roll in. I hope this winter is a good one. Two dams in the area have stopped releasing water so far, and a few others are debating about doing the same. Palisades in Idaho is about 32' below normal at the moment. The problem that they are having, is that their dam is a power producer. If they close the gates, the snake river dries up and power has to be bought from elsewhere at a much higher cost. In order to get enough water to fill these lakes back up, those down stream will need to be ready for flooding. Not all of the snow melt goes to the lakes up here. A mountain has two sides. Our lakes only get water from one side. The other goes into streams and rivers to those in the flatlands. Therefor, flooding. We're in a no win situation at the moment. A winter with not much snow, higher energy costs. A winter with an abundance of snow, flooding in the low lands. Kind of a catch 22.
Hi Richard.

I'm guessing they'll go with higher rates rather then flood a town. Wish they could swing some of that water our way. We're usually suffering some sort of drought. Exception being the winter after the disastrous Station Fire. All that sediment made it's way downhill - backed up against a damn. The area in front of the damn is open space bordered by NASA and the mountains. That sediment settled bringing in plants and animals that hadn't been around for decades. Including some nesting birds on the endangered list. Been fighting to have a less invasive plans to remove the sediment. Unfortunately we seem to be falling back on yesteryear methods (like creating concrete flood channels for our rivers). And of course demon Vulcan poised and ready to collect it. According to the paper... "between 2.4 million and 4 million cubic yards of backed-up sediment will require a maximum of 400 truck trips per day for five years." I can't even imagine this level of invasiveness yet alone what is in the dust that it will be kicking up.

Since: May 12

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#19696 Oct 27, 2013
Rose of Tralee wrote:
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Hi Richard.
I'm guessing they'll go with higher rates rather then flood a town. Wish they could swing some of that water our way. We're usually suffering some sort of drought. Exception being the winter after the disastrous Station Fire. All that sediment made it's way downhill - backed up against a damn. The area in front of the damn is open space bordered by NASA and the mountains. That sediment settled bringing in plants and animals that hadn't been around for decades. Including some nesting birds on the endangered list. Been fighting to have a less invasive plans to remove the sediment. Unfortunately we seem to be falling back on yesteryear methods (like creating concrete flood channels for our rivers). And of course demon Vulcan poised and ready to collect it. According to the paper... "between 2.4 million and 4 million cubic yards of backed-up sediment will require a maximum of 400 truck trips per day for five years." I can't even imagine this level of invasiveness yet alone what is in the dust that it will be kicking up.
Mother Nature still had the say in who does and doesn't get flooded. Us mere mortals haven't found a way to control her yet and I doubt we ever will. To see what I'm talking about, look up the "Teton Dam Blowout". Those folks still haven't recovered.
As in your case, that sediment would have washed on out to sea in years gone by. But now, with the construction of dams, what would normally be on its way to the ocean has become a huge problem right in your own back yard.
You'll get a fight over the "dust" issue. But you know that already. They'll be saying, "Those chemicals were already in the soil and they didn't bother anyone before". And they would be correct. But what they won't point out is this. Those chemicals were spread out over hundreds of thousands of acres. Now they're being concentrated in one small area where they become harmful.
It's all about money. As it has always been. And as long as there is a profit to be made, human suffering will be relegated to the back burner.

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