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#11452 Feb 6, 2013
_RandMan_ wrote:
<quoted text>Barbi, I held a mining claim for about 15 years in Shirt Tail Canyon, up near Weimar. I have a 4" suction dredge and I could average about an ounce of gold a day with it, provided I was diving for about 8 hours. It's very hard work and you have to spend a lot of time under water to make it pay. Since gold dredging was outlawed, I gave up my mining claim. The environmentalists said it was damaging the salmon run. In fifteen years of diving in that river, I never saw one salmon. Maybe because there are no salmon in the Sierras and never has been? Duh...
Maybe because of all that dredging....

The gold shows make it pretty darn clear that finding gold (however it's done) is extremely hard and that it's rarely lucrative. They are more honest than the others in that respect. I read a blog entry from a woman who DOES buy storage lockers at auctions and barely breaks even in doing so. She said that with the popularity of the various storage shows, that living has gotten harder!

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#11454 Feb 6, 2013
_RandMan_ wrote:
<quoted text>Barbi, I held a mining claim for about 15 years in Shirt Tail Canyon, up near Weimar. I have a 4" suction dredge and I could average about an ounce of gold a day with it, provided I was diving for about 8 hours. It's very hard work and you have to spend a lot of time under water to make it pay. Since gold dredging was outlawed, I gave up my mining claim. The environmentalists said it was damaging the salmon run. In fifteen years of diving in that river, I never saw one salmon. Maybe because there are no salmon in the Sierras and never has been? Duh...
Salmon in the Sierras? lol! Don't some of the touristy sites still have gold panning? You know, a place you can take the kidlets for a history lesson?

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#11455 Feb 6, 2013
Hello, everyone. Does anyone have an update on ArtGal?

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#11456 Feb 6, 2013
Hey everyone! How's things going? Anything new?

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#11457 Feb 6, 2013
Charlie Mean Girl wrote:
Hello, everyone. Does anyone have an update on ArtGal?
Why are you mean? Did someone piss you off?

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#11458 Feb 6, 2013
DazzleDat wrote:
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Why are you mean? Did someone piss you off?
No? Did I do something that offended you?

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#11459 Feb 6, 2013
Charlie Mean Girl wrote:
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No? Did I do something that offended you?
No, I was wondering why Charlie Mean Girl name. You haven't been mean to me, that I recall.

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#11460 Feb 6, 2013
Barbi A wrote:
<quoted text>Salmon in the Sierras? lol! Don't some of the touristy sites still have gold panning? You know, a place you can take the kidlets for a history lesson?
I like fly fishing though I admit I use a swatter rather than a hook and line.

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#11461 Feb 6, 2013
Ferrerman wrote:
<quoted text>I like fly fishing though I admit I use a swatter rather than a hook and line.
Dang, Ferrerman! I saw that "I like fly fishing" and got excited. I was gonna ask you if you fly fished for the salmon in the rivers into Lake Michigan, then I saw the rest of the sentence. I'll ask, anyhow; do you? I ask that because that is my real love in life. I've caught many of them out of the Pere Marquette and Manistee Rivers. Y'all have a good'n.

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#11462 Feb 6, 2013
DazzleDat wrote:
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No, I was wondering why Charlie Mean Girl name. You haven't been mean to me, that I recall.
I was mean to you once, when I first started posting on this forum. I misunderstood something you posted and later apologized. I remember everything. I'm much better at interpreting the tone of posts now.:)

Someone called me Charlie Mean Girl, so I created this sock. I'm not really mean, but if that got around, it would ruin my reputation as a badass troll. ;)

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#11464 Feb 6, 2013
Charlie Mean Girl wrote:
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I was mean to you once, when I first started posting on this forum. I misunderstood something you posted and later apologized. I remember everything. I'm much better at interpreting the tone of posts now.:)
Someone called me Charlie Mean Girl, so I created this sock. I'm not really mean, but if that got around, it would ruin my reputation as a badass troll. ;)
Yeah, you're right. When people apologize and I feel it's genuine I tend to forget things.

I just didn't know if you lost your other account. I promise to not let anyone know that you're nice.

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#11465 Feb 6, 2013
the perfessor wrote:
<quoted text>Dang, Ferrerman! I saw that "I like fly fishing" and got excited. I was gonna ask you if you fly fished for the salmon in the rivers into Lake Michigan, then I saw the rest of the sentence. I'll ask, anyhow; do you? I ask that because that is my real love in life. I've caught many of them out of the Pere Marquette and Manistee Rivers. Y'all have a good'n.
Sorry, not much on fishing at all.

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#11466 Feb 6, 2013
Charlie Mean Girl wrote:
Hello, everyone. Does anyone have an update on ArtGal?
Hi CG, Dazzle and all.
Not that I know of. We're sort of waiting for Chrissy to post an update. I don't have personal contact with AG.
Sure miss her.

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#11467 Feb 6, 2013
the perfessor wrote:
<quoted text>Dang, Ferrerman! I saw that "I like fly fishing" and got excited. I was gonna ask you if you fly fished for the salmon in the rivers into Lake Michigan, then I saw the rest of the sentence. I'll ask, anyhow; do you? I ask that because that is my real love in life. I've caught many of them out of the Pere Marquette and Manistee Rivers. Y'all have a good'n.
A loved one of mine loved fly fishing, perfessor. I guess you've seen "A River Runs Through It?" I think I asked about that already.
I've always wanted to do that myself.

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#11469 Feb 6, 2013
Barbi A wrote:
<quoted text>A loved one of mine loved fly fishing, perfessor. I guess you've seen "A River Runs Through It?" I think I asked about that already.
I've always wanted to do that myself.
Yeah, I've seen the movie, several times. Loved it. There is an art to laying a line and making the presentation that the fish can't resist. I always released most of what I caught. I'd just keep what I wanted to use in a short time. I did do lot of canning and smoking of the salmon, because they were gonna die anyhow, after their spawning run. My hands are so stiff and cramp so much, I can no longer tie flies, and that's a bummer. And haven't been able to do any casting for several years. Sure got a lot of good pictures and memories, though. Y'all have a good'n.

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#11470 Feb 6, 2013
Charlie Mean Girl wrote:
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No? Did I do something that offended you?
Pop Tart?
Yummy Yummy!
:)

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#11471 Feb 7, 2013
Barbi A wrote:
<quoted text>Salmon in the Sierras? lol! Don't some of the touristy sites still have gold panning? You know, a place you can take the kidlets for a history lesson?
I'd do a little research before you make up your mind on that. Los Angeles at one time had salmon. Hard to believe but it's true. Without going into detail, I'm involved in those issues. Bringing back the river. Saving what is left of our wetlands (our most recent enemy being Steven Spielberg). Fighting for non-development of city parkland etc. I've been known to attend meetings and voice my opinion on such matters. Here is a little bit on LA salmon.

"Imagine the Los Angeles River full of salmon more than a hundred years ago. Much of the Los Angeles Basin was a vast rolling plain of grassland scattered with oak trees. There were wild southern steelhead salmon that swam the creeks and rivers of the basin. In low-lying areas between hills and bluffs, the Los Angeles River and dozens of lesser streams meandered through broad valleys to the sea. They carried so much fresh water to the sea that when explorer Juan Cabrillo first anchored in San Pedro Bay in 1542, he could haul fresh water, which floats on heavier seawater, aboard ship with a bucket."

http://www.independent.com/news/2012/jan/25/g...

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#11472 Feb 7, 2013
Barbi A wrote:
<quoted text>Salmon in the Sierras? lol! Don't some of the touristy sites still have gold panning? You know, a place you can take the kidlets for a history lesson?
Yes. There are a lot of places where you can do that. No need, though. You can go to just about any stream in the foothills and find a coupld of flakes of gold. In the stream where I used to go, I never had a pan without at least SOME color.

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#11473 Feb 7, 2013
Morning all. Hope you're all well this fine day. Busy here lately but looked in to see how things on topix were going. Bout the same I see. Oh well, I didn't really expect anything different I guess.

I read what RandMan and Ms Barbi had been talking about concerning 'California Salmon' and wanted to share this with them. Now don't you two start throwing things at me but, you got it wrong about the salmon.*ducks behind Ms Rose. She'll save me*. It's just something I had to look up because I remembered my father and grand father talking about salmon fishing in Cali when I was a kid.

http://www.sierraforestlegacy.org/FC_SierraNe...

Much like the Grizzly, salmon were native to many parts of the U.S. at one time. Hard to imagine it now days, but the Central Valley and Sierras had quite a large population of Salmon during the mating and spawning season.

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#11474 Feb 7, 2013
Richard Barlow wrote:
Morning all. Hope you're all well this fine day. Busy here lately but looked in to see how things on topix were going. Bout the same I see. Oh well, I didn't really expect anything different I guess.
I read what RandMan and Ms Barbi had been talking about concerning 'California Salmon' and wanted to share this with them. Now don't you two start throwing things at me but, you got it wrong about the salmon.*ducks behind Ms Rose. She'll save me*. It's just something I had to look up because I remembered my father and grand father talking about salmon fishing in Cali when I was a kid.
http://www.sierraforestlegacy.org/FC_SierraNe...
Much like the Grizzly, salmon were native to many parts of the U.S. at one time. Hard to imagine it now days, but the Central Valley and Sierras had quite a large population of Salmon during the mating and spawning season.
Most of the gold-bearing gravels in California are at elevations of 2000-4000 feet. Hydraulic mining destroyed a lot of habitat because of the huge amounts of silt that ran down the mountain streams into the Sacramento valley. Check out the Malakov Diggings. It was banned in the late 1800's for that reason. Now you're not allowed to put any bank run material into the streams. Dams are the biggest threat to salmon. When I was dredging all I saw was trout. Wild rainbows and big browns. Thousands of them. Sometimes they would swarm in front of my mask and I had to shoo them away so I could work. They loved all of the yummy things I would stir up.

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