Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46812 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#49089 Aug 5, 2014
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

Hurtling into Darkness. America's Great Leap Towards Global Tyranny.
By John Chuckman


April 15, 2014 "ICH" - The darkness to which I refer is something largely unanticipated in political studies and even in science fiction, a field which definitely enters this discussion, as readers will see. There have been many examples of national tyrannies and even stories of global autocracies, but the Hitler-Stalin-Mussolini type of tyranny is an antiquated model for advanced states despite its applying still to many third-world places. A unique set of circumstances now works towards a dystopian future in advanced states with no need for jackboots or brutal faces on posters.


Ironically, one of the key forces which brought Europe and North America over a few centuries to the kind of liberal democracies we know today is capable of delivering a new and unprecedented form of tyranny. That force is the body of interests of a nation’s middle class - the group of capable, ambitious, and rising people who were called a few centuries back by Europe’s landed old aristocracy “the new men.”


By “middle class,” I certainly do not mean what the average American Congressman encourages, in boiler-plate speeches, the average American to believe: that every family with steady work is middle class, all other classes having been eliminated from the American political lexicon. No, I mean the people of significant means – and, although not wealthy, of considerable talent and education - who hold as a group an important set of interests in society through their holdings and valued services.

It was the gradual growth of this class of people over centuries of economic growth in Western societies that eventually made the position of monarchs and later aristocracies untenable: the middle class’s interests could no longer be represented by the old orders while their importance to burgeoning economies had become indispensable. They provided the indispensable force for what we now think of as democracy in their countless demands that their interests be represented.

But there is evidence, in America especially, that something altogether new is emerging in human affairs. The real middle class, at least a critical mass of it, has been folded into the interest of the modern elites, the relatively small number of people who own a great portion of all wealth just as they did in the 17th century,..

Their futures, interests, and prejudices have become locked-in with the interests of America’s corporate-military-intelligenc e establishment. They are indispensable to the establishment’s success, and they are accordingly rewarded in ways which bind their interests – health care, pension-type benefits, privileges, working conditions, opportunities for promotion, etc.


This marriage of interests between elites and the talented middle class effectively removes many of the best educated and most skilled people from being political opponents or becoming critics of the establishments for which they work. At the same time, America’s middle class in general – its small store owners, small factory owners, modest bankers, and even many professionals - has been under attack from economic competition in a globalized world for many years and has little to look forward to but more of the same. America’s legendary working class “middle class”– that brief postwar miracle of auto and steel workers and others who through unionized, unskilled labor earned long vacations, handsome pensions, home ownership, cars, and even small boats – has been battered beyond recognition, every year for decades seeing its real income fall and long-term having absolutely no prospects.

“Turn left at pub Number 42”

Since: Dec 08

Homehill,QLD

#49090 Aug 5, 2014
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>So I take it that the Muslim countries around the world are not Muslim and you blame non Muslim countries for this ?
Do your Saudi employers fit this description , if so why would you want to live and work within them in their corrupted country ?
There will be no criticisms of Saudi's ,though the site he spam offers criticisms of Saudi's and US relationships there will BE NO criticisms of Saudi's
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/

“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#49091 Aug 6, 2014
NT wrote:
01. So I take it that the Muslim countries around the world are not Muslim and you blame non Muslim countries for this ?

02. Do your Saudi employers fit this description , if so why would you want to live and work within them in their corrupted country ?
Ans.

01. I did not say that there are no “Muslim” countries in the world, I said there is no “Islamic” country in the world.

In the same way there is no Christian country, no Hindu country and No Buddhist country in the world.

There are many countries in which 100 % population is Muslim, but still they are not run on the Islamic principles on all fronts.

02. Saudi Arabia is a 100 % Muslim country, they follow Islamic guidelines but they do not follow it on Political and Economic grounds.

There is no problem for me to live here and work as a Muslim and try to implement as much Islam in my life as possible.

To live and practice Islam in individual life is much more easier than in any country of the world.
Dr BumCheeks

Australia

#49092 Aug 6, 2014
My bum looks like this (_!_)
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#49099 Aug 6, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.

There is no problem for me to live here and work as a Muslim and try to implement as much Islam in my life as possible.
To live and practice Islam in individual life is much more easier than in any country of the world.
You are basically a stupid person, you cannot think for yourself and you cannot reason.
You are brainwashed with your quran.

You have no moral compass!!
You should leave this western Forum and go to your Muslim forums. Don't you see from the Posts, nobody here likes Muslims.

“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#49101 Aug 6, 2014
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

Hurtling into Darkness. America's Great Leap Towards Global Tyranny.
By John Chuckman

Despite the rise of a society much steeped in the illusions of advertising and marketing, most Americans likely still assume in their day-to-day affairs that their neighbors and business contacts do pretty much what they say they are doing, that while there may be an exaggeration or white lie here or there, most matters proceed according to understanding, laws, and ordinary civility. By and large for the present, they are still pretty much justified in their assumptions.


But when it comes to the level of the national government, and especially in matters of international affairs, these ordinary truths simply cease to hold, almost as though you had moved from the visible, work-a-day world to the quantum strangeness of the subatomic. Likely, it has always been the case to some degree, but the evidence mounts that we have entered a startling new reality, one which shares almost nothing with traditional civil society.

America’s national government has become inured to lying and cheating the people whom it ostensibly serves, lying as consistently and thoroughly as would be the case with an occupying foreign power trying to keep a captive population pacified. Americans were lied to about Vietnam, lied to about Cambodia, lied to about the Gulf War, lied to about the invasion of Afghanistan, lied to about the invasion of Iraq, and lied to about a host of policies and interventions.


But we have reached a new level in these matters, a level where the extent of the misrepresentation almost severs the social contract between those governed and their government. America’s neo-con faction has had its agenda adopted over the last few decades, that of freely and happily using America’s great military and economic power to crush those abroad who disagree with America’s arbitrary pronouncements, creating a long crusade intended to re-order the affairs of others with no apologies to them and no honest explanation to America’s own people who pay the taxes and provide the lives of soldiers. While the neo-cons are a passing phenomenon, much as the Middle-eastern garrison state with which they are ferociously associated, the values and lessons they have successfully imparted will remain part of America’s ruling consciousness, serving yet other interests. A tool once successfully used is rarely abandoned.

Not only is there a quantitative difference now, there is a new qualitative difference. After the holocaust of Vietnam (3 million dead Vietnamese justify the term), the United States military realized that it could no longer depend upon citizen-soldiers in its colonial wars. It also realized that that it could no longer tolerate even a moderately free press nosing around its battlegrounds, thus was born the idea of an imbedded press in a professional army.

“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#49102 Aug 6, 2014
Of course, in the intervening years, America’s press itself changed, becoming an intensely concentrated corporate industry whose editorial policies are invariably in lock-step over colonial wars and interventions and coups, almost as though it were an unofficial department of government. In addition, this corporatized press has abandoned traditional responsibilities of explaining even modestly world affairs, reportage resources having been slashed by merged corporate interests as well as by new economic pressures on advertising revenue, the result of changing technologies.

There is only one lens in America’s mainline journalistic kit, and that is one that filters everything through corporate American views, an automatic and invariable bias found in every image taken or written outside America’s borders. Now, some will say in response that a few newspapers like The New York Times or The Washington Post are exceptions here, but they couldn’t be more wrong. When a journalistic institution gains a reputation for thoroughness and detail in some of its operations, it becomes all the more able to powerfully leverage its reputation in matters which concern the establishment.

If you examine the record of these newspapers for some decades, you will find absolutely without exception, their close support for every dirty war and intervention, as you will find their close support for the brutal, criminal behaviors of favored American satrapies like Israel. In a number of cases, CIA plants have worked directly for these papers as disinformation pipelines, but in all cases, reportage and editorial reflect nothing beyond what the publicity offices of the Pentagon and CIA would write themselves. It actually is a sign of how distorted American perceptions are that these papers are in any way regarded as independent, disinterested, or demonstrating consistent journalistic integrity.

The American political system at the national level makes these practices practicable. No one is genuinely responsible for anything in an open and direct fashion, secrecy is as much the norm in America as it is in any authoritarian government you care to mention, and money is the only governing principle in American politics. Openness or transparency simply does not exist, as one might expect it would, transparency being one of the hallmarks of responsible and democratic government.
moving on

San Jose, CA

#49104 Aug 7, 2014
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>So I take it that the Muslim countries around the world are not Muslim and you blame non Muslim countries for this ?
Do your Saudi employers fit this description , if so why would you want to live and work within them in their corrupted country ?
You are the kind of mutherfuking white trash who doesn't understand decent words, ever since your padre molested in your bum..LLOL right in your church you have lost the ability to think straight, perhaps its also the filthy bumsniffing gay poofter life you live but nevertheless you remain a twisted pigmuncher...LLOL,LLOL

No we are not Blaming anybody for our present predicament but we are aware that you frightened gayboys are sparing no efforts to foment trouble and this deception is slowly coming to the fore in Muslim lands, once the knowledge becomes widespread and we can get rid of our traitor leaders then we will come and put you on the cross which you so love...LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, Kapeeeesh...dogshit...LLOL
Raheem

Sliema, Malta

#49105 Aug 7, 2014
Serpent wrote:
<quoted text>
You are basically a stupid person, you cannot think for yourself and you cannot reason.
You are brainwashed with your quran.
You have no moral compass!!
You should leave this western Forum and go to your Muslim forums. Don't you see from the Posts, nobody here likes Muslims.
He can say the same for you.
Muq jizya

Australia

#49106 Aug 7, 2014
moving on wrote:
<quoted text>
You are the kind of mutherfuking white trash who doesn't understand decent words, ever since your padre molested in your bum..LLOL right in your church you have lost the ability to think straight, perhaps its also the filthy bumsniffing gay poofter life you live but nevertheless you remain a twisted pigmuncher...LLOL,LLOL
No we are not Blaming anybody for our present predicament but we are aware that you frightened gayboys are sparing no efforts to foment trouble and this deception is slowly coming to the fore in Muslim lands, once the knowledge becomes widespread and we can get rid of our traitor leaders then we will come and put you on the cross which you so love...LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, Kapeeeesh...dogshit...LLOL
Odd how Muq posts off topic out of date socialist anti west 1970's paid by the word hack IPH babble - big long cut and pastes of absolute dribble no one reads.
And then almost always followed by this sort of mumbo from Pigsquealer.
Just saying.
Is Muq the only 'Muslim' left holding the fort?
Now here's the funny thing.
He's a Sunni Aljaf Indian with the usual socialist & Wahhabist fetishing contradictions.
Fact is all 'Muslim' county's are but mere vassal of Christian capitalist imperialism.
Fact is all the top controlling countries are totally Judaic Christian in their entire fabric from the principles of rule to local & civil law...
One could regard Saudi and Wahhabism as a Christian designed variant of Islam - Wahhabism was designed and installed by the British as well as the current Jewish house of saud.
So here we have,,, an Indian Aljaf Sunni 'beast without a soul' according to his Indian ashraf Muslim superiors.
Who is specifically excluded from being Muslim and will not be heard by Allah and not allowed into an Allah heaven (Quran).
Who babbles on about how Islam is perfect if it was ever to be followed. But can't name an example where this ever happened.
And he is excluded from it.
He rails against the west and the Judaic Christian culture that are his master and his 'masters master' as well.
We know why he whines and bleats like this.
Because deep down he knows he's an Aljaf Indian and a jizya slave 'pretending' to be Muslim.
He's a prisoner of Islam, trapped in it, no god, no redemption, no hope, lost and lonely and he knows it.
Muq - give up. No one believes you.
You have ZERO credibility.
You haven't even read the Quran or understood what it says. It has to be explained to you. Everything you say is an evident nonsense to mask the anger & betrayal you feel at being a prisoner of a pagan moon god cult that excludes you.
Your can recycle IPH mumbo cut & paste, go way off topic, and your alter ego pig squealer can betray the real stupidity and inability in not being able to string together a coherent anti white/anti west/anti Christian statement.
But you can't hide the facts.
You can't be Muslim, & your not authorised to speak on it's behalf.
The Quran states this & as a prisoner of Islam you just need to accept your fate and blame Islam for that.
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#49107 Aug 7, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
The American political system at the national level makes these practices practicable. No one is genuinely responsible for anything in an open and direct fashion, secrecy is as much the norm in America as it is in any authoritarian government you care to mention, and money is the only governing principle in American politics. Openness or transparency simply does not exist, as one might expect it would, transparency being one of the hallmarks of responsible and democratic government.
America/West does not need a stupid Muslim from India to post public information on this Forum.

Why don't you go and post on Muslim forums, we don't like you here!! Understand ??

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#49111 Aug 7, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. I did not say that there are no “Muslim” countries in the world, I said there is no “Islamic” country in the world.
In the same way there is no Christian country, no Hindu country and No Buddhist country in the world.
There are many countries in which 100 % population is Muslim, but still they are not run on the Islamic principles on all fronts.
02. Saudi Arabia is a 100 % Muslim country, they follow Islamic guidelines but they do not follow it on Political and Economic grounds.
There is no problem for me to live here and work as a Muslim and try to implement as much Islam in my life as possible.
To live and practice Islam in individual life is much more easier than in any country of the world.
Hello MUQ , were you born on the 12 day of August 1973 ?

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#49112 Aug 7, 2014
Serpent wrote:
<quoted text>
America/West does not need a stupid Muslim from India to post public information on this Forum.
Why don't you go and post on Muslim forums, we don't like you here!! Understand ??
MUQ1 is correct .
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#49113 Aug 8, 2014
Muslims (Iraq) that are in Western cities are all protesting and asking the West to help with the people of Iraq in Iraq.

ABSOLUTELY NO, this is a Muslim war, let these scum bags deal with their own kind. I don't care if they all slaughter each other!!
Non Muslim

Papakura, New Zealand

#49121 Aug 9, 2014
Cheap Ho/Serpent writes a load of trash and parrots other's trash

Cheap Ho does not know what she is talking about.

Cheap Ho is an unintelligent nothing

Cheap Ho loves Algerians
Serpent wrote:
<quoted text>
All religions are better than Islam. Islam is the worst of the worst. No other religion inspires murders and killers like Islam does. Not other religion is more hated in the world than Islam.
Islam is not a religion, it's a cult.
Islam has nothing to contribute to the 21st century.
No, the things that are going on in the Muslim countries are ALL the fault of Islam and Muslims.
Muslims will always blame everybody else for their own faults, they cannot accept blame for their own stupidity.
Non Muslim

Papakura, New Zealand

#49122 Aug 9, 2014
The West does not need a stupid canadian to post crud

Why don't you go post on Canadian forums and MYOB about subjects of which you know zilch

"We" dont like you either, UNDERSTAND
Serpent wrote:
<quoted text>
America/West does not need a stupid Muslim from India to post public information on this Forum.
Why don't you go and post on Muslim forums, we don't like you here!! Understand ??
Non Muslim

Papakura, New Zealand

#49123 Aug 9, 2014
Cheap Ho/Serpent is basically a stupid person,
Brainwashed from idiots on Egypt forum
Has no moral compass.
Cheap Ho is not liked on Egypt forums

Stick with the alcohol and leave sensible comments to others

Nobody likes you here or there
Serpent wrote:
<quoted text>
You are basically a stupid person, you cannot think for yourself and you cannot reason.
You are brainwashed with your quran.
You have no moral compass!!
You should leave this western Forum and go to your Muslim forums. Don't you see from the Posts, nobody here likes Muslims.

“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#49124 Aug 9, 2014
Serpent wrote:
<quoted text>
America/West does not need a stupid Muslim from India to post public information on this Forum.
Why don't you go and post on Muslim forums, we don't like you here!! Understand ??
What is wrong in it? Is there any restriction on any one joining this thread? If you do not like my posts, keep quite or ignore them.

Your comments show what type of narrow minded person you are,

“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#49125 Aug 9, 2014
Serpent wrote:
Muslims (Iraq) that are in Western cities are all protesting and asking the West to help with the people of Iraq in Iraq.
ABSOLUTELY NO, this is a Muslim war, let these scum bags deal with their own kind. I don't care if they all slaughter each other!!
Except when your "little pot of poison" Israel gets some harm, then it is no longer "Internal matter"....the whole west gets involved in it. Why?
MUQI

Auburn, Australia

#49127 Aug 10, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Except when your "little pot of poison" Israel gets some harm, then it is no longer "Internal matter"....the whole west gets involved in it. Why?
Actually I'm wrong again.
No one in the west is helping Israel and many are actively 'not helping them'.
And i do have to admit the Jews have a fair claim to sort out these gaza terrorists who are neither Palestinian nor Muslim either.
Islam is full of little and very large poison pots.
Sort of whole poisoned lakes of Islam actually.
Whether it's those Indian Muslim Ashraf who tell us Indian Muslim Aljaf we are just beasts without souls, or the Arabs who despise us all and tell us that the Quran & Allah says we are just jizya slaves and not Muslim.
Or our schism of Sunni & Shia, 1400 years of being riven by the treachery and then murder of Muhammad.. I really want to be something else and I think a Christian is best. A Christian socialist idealist aka 1970's anti imperialist - as that's my knowledge base. Or a Hindu - that's really me. So simple and clear - stone pagan gods. I get that.
But I'm a mere Indian Aljaf Sunni Saudi Guest-worker jizya Slave.
So I keep trotting out the anti Jew line so the muttaween here keep letting me post.
(Even tho Saudi is run by the Jewish house of saud) but that's my waste of life.
Next life I hope to be a cow or a dog in a Hindu village, that would be better than being a prisoner of Islam for sure..

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