Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46778 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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#46739 Apr 5, 2014
Go Le Gay cochon Baron GO wrote:
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Those errors are placed in my post to see if you are4 :=> ? would someone tell us why Le Gay Doggie is placing deliberate errors in the explanation to why he is placing errors to his posts?
Your donkey is making a greater ASS out of you, CASTRATO.
PakiPoof Porky CASTRATO Black Muzza Piggy, you are a sham squealing like a stuffed feral pig. and barking like a wild mongrel mutt and always making a LUNATIC, ASS and DORK and IDIOT of yourself.
YOUR us COMPANY AND PROFILE DETAILS, and business and websites he owns, of course he uses a different name.NOW, for the proof you are not full of shite, IDIOTIC flikker - NOW, Le Gay Slumpufdoggy,
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Beady I am so pleased to know you are reading my posting, not only reading it, but it makes you squeal as a feral pig.
The more you squeal the happier we are.
Muq waste of time

Wentworthville, Australia

#46740 Apr 5, 2014
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Islam's written history states that when Muhammad was close to death his so called companions were in short supply due to being at war at the time and many having died on the battle field and the number was nowhere near 124000 more like 50 or less .
You keep on about the death total not exceeding 1000 so why don't you tell us the population of each nomadic group that were overcome in
battle against Muhammad's cavalry; Tell us the population of each settlement that was overcome with violence MUQ ?
Who wrote an authentic biography MUQ .
You being born in India you can only believe
what is written , you didn't live that life from birth as an Arabian who learn' t it from their fathers before them and that is your difference .
I am not laughing at you more so so I pity you for you being you MUQ.
Your wasting your time with muq(1)- dead loss.
Keeps going around in circles with Indian mumbo and hasnt read Quran & doesnt understand
Islam. I suspect it's a tag team act and as the prior muq was useless also - anyone reading his junk could see he was out of his depth - and so 'Islamic help desk' service level has been
downgraded.
What this thread needs is a proper arab muslim.- Indians etc can't ever be proper muslims. All arabs have to wash themselves if they come into contact with people like muq - be it a handshake or even sharing a seat - that's what they think of indians. Proper muslims would say "why are you even bothering to converse with an Indian on the subject of Islam"
All he does is say mumbo & cut and paste 3 month old false propaganda nonsense.
So waste of time responding to a little dumb dancing monkey when we need the Arab Muslim who is playing the tune, and understands Islam.
I asked Allah & he agrees with me. He knows best.

Quran asks us to fight

Japan

#46741 Apr 5, 2014
Seth Blathstein USA
Apr 4, 2014 6:26 PM

Finian i am not sure if you have ever read Sun Tzsu's "the art of War" < in his treatise on your subject Sun Tzsu warned that Long protracted warfare were not good for an army or the nation that employs it. Sun Tzsu projected the same results the US army is having right now.Incidentally Sun Tzsu also mentioned that if an army hasnt won it's war in 2 years it will never win.(see Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, afghanistan , Syria etc) Also Finian , do u think this has something to do with the very high level of Rape in the US military? As every normal man knows rape is not a sex crime but a power crime.

Finian Cunninghamin reply to Seth Blathstein USA
4/4/2014 7:51:35 PM

Seth, good points by you. I am quite sure that the abysmal failure rate of US army over the decades is due to the fact that this military has been deployed to no good use, but plunder and violation. Hence the failure rate. Compare for example the successful military of Syria, because the latter has a just cause and therefore has high morale. The US army is a disgrace, full of hitech weapons to kill millions, and bereft of any moral fibre. The institution is just a killing machine for the American ruling class. Hence the abysmal failure rate and the accompanying internal breakdown, including suicide, homicide and the sexual predation within the ranks.
Quran asks us to fight

Japan

#46742 Apr 5, 2014
Evil begets evil

DT Apr 4, 2014 10:31 AM

I was stunned to see reported on RT in the past few days that 108,000 US forces have suicided themselves between 2001-2012. ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHT THOUSAND! that is absolutely astounding when you consider only roughly 5,000 were weighed off during combat operations in the imperialist occupation assault of Iraq. That tells me that American troops' deadliest enemy by far is their own institutions as opposed to the militants and civilian populations they normally assault.
Quran asks us to fight

Japan

#46743 Apr 5, 2014
US killing machine turns on itself

Fri Apr 4, 2014 8:35AM GMT


By Finian Cunningham

‘West duplicitous on N-activities’

'Israel must turn over its WMDs'

When a country's military has been turned into nothing more than a criminal killing and torture machine we should not be surprised when its own ranks in turn become seized with all sorts of psychosis and pathology.

The latest mass killing this week at the US army base in Fort Hood, Texas, in which four personnel were shot dead and 16 others injured is but another symptom of how the American military is at war with itself.

An army is supposed to be an honorable institution of the state tasked with defending the nation. In America's case, the military is a sick entity that reflects the deeper national decay caused by its criminal ruling class.

Ivan Lopez, a 34-year-old military truck driver, opened fire on his comrades with a semi-automatic pistol before turning the gun on himself.

It was the third such mass fatal shooting at a US military installation in recent years. Last September 13 people were killed in a rampage at the US Navy Yard in Washington. In November 2009, a former military psychiatrist shot dead another 13 personnel - also at Fort Hood, Texas, where the latest killings occurred this week.

US President Barack Obama said he was "heartbroken" by the news of another self-inflicted multiple murder on American military premises. Obama promised that "he would get to the bottom of the incident" to investigate the cause.

That's the last thing that Obama and the Washington political establishment will ever do - because at the bottom of such tragedy is the following answer: the wholesale debasement of the American military by the country's rulers for their own criminal purposes.

In truth, the US military has always been used and abused as a cudgel by its capitalist rulers, as former Marine Commander Smedley Butler noted in his book, War is a Racket, published in 1935. The same can be said, too, for other colonial, imperialist powers.

But what distinguishes the US in recent years is the relentless overturning of the military into a discredited gangster enterprise.

Coincidently, but tellingly, this week also saw the emergence of the US Senate report into systematic torture and law breaking by the US military and intelligence agencies. Full details of the US Senate Intelligence Committee study will probably never be disclosed, but enough information has surfaced to show that the Pentagon and its Washington masters have overseen a vast web of torture conducted on a global scale over the past decade.

Both the Bush and Obama administrations are implicated in sanctioning and covering up institutionalized torture - in shocking violation of American and international laws. And yet Obama and his ilk still have the gall to lecture Russia and other countries about the rule of law and diplomatic norms.

That grave, systematic American criminality is an integral part of even bigger crimes - stemming from the illegal wars of aggression committed by the US government in Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as ongoing presidential-run assassination programs with drones and Special Forces in several other countries, including Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia.

This is all done in the outrageously spurious name of "war on terror". Since the 9/11 attacks on America's northeast in 2001, the US military has been assigned by the rulers in Washington to a permanent state of imperialist war making around the globe. This includes the cynical "humanitarian intervention" in Libya in 2011 and the ongoing US-led covert regime-change operation in Syria.
Quran asks us to fight

Japan

#46744 Apr 5, 2014
In addition to the more than one million civilians killed by this American Murder Inc., thousands have been scooped up into US black sites around the world where they are subjected to horrendous physical and mental suffering, many of them dying while in illegal captivity.

The so-called war on terror is nothing but a pretext for the American ruling class to embark on global imperialism with impunity. In this criminal enterprise, the ranks of the American military have been turned into a killing and torture machine in the service of elite corporate and financier interests.
Such rampant violation of basic human morality and law is manifest in the consequent deranged behaviour of the American military even in times of so-called peace.

The US Veterans Administration puts the number of soldiers or ex-servicemen taking their own lives at around 22 a day. That is over 8,000 military-related suicides every year - more than the number of fatalities among American troops serving in purported combat zones.

Tens of thousands of US military personnel return from the American killing fields abroad deeply traumatized by what they have committed or have witnessed. These individuals are often discarded in post-military life to endure poverty, family breakdown, unemployment, drug addiction and homelessness - beneath a heap of psychological damage. And if they confess to what they may have witnessed while on duty, they run the risk of persecution behind bars for being "a traitor".

Significantly, the suicide rate among US military personnel – more than double the rate among civilians - has increased dramatically since 2005, according to official figures. That fact alone is an indicator of the moral corruption that is at the heart of American imperialism and the abuse of its foot soldiers.
It is also related to the upsurge in cases of sexual violence and harassment within the American military. If laws are so routinely broken by occupying American military forces towards civilians in foreign countries, then it is little wonder that these personnel have lost all moral compass within their own ranks.

Ivan Lopez, the latest US military shooter, was a veteran of Iraq. He was said to have been suffering from psychological "issues" before going on his murder spree against his own comrades at Fort Hood on Wednesday.

In a recent American media interview, days before the latest shooting, President Obama said that after a decade of wars the US military had become exhausted and was not capable of fighting another war. He was referring obliquely to possible deployment against Russian forces over the Ukraine tensions.

Obama's banal comment about "exhaustion" is one way of putting it. More accurately, the US military has been degraded to become a criminal killing machine that is now finding itself drowning in a moral cesspit made by its political leaders.

The biggest enemy the US military faces is itself and the American war criminals in high office.

FC/SL

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#46745 Apr 5, 2014
Quran asks us to fight wrote:
In addition to the more than one million civilians killed by this American Murder Inc., thousands have been scooped up into US black sites around the world where they are subjected to horrendous physical and mental suffering, many of them dying while in illegal captivity.
The so-called war on terror is nothing but a pretext for the American ruling class to embark on global imperialism with impunity. In this criminal enterprise, the ranks of the American military have been turned into a killing and torture machine in the service of elite corporate and financier interests.
Such rampant violation of basic human morality and law is manifest in the consequent deranged behaviour of the American military even in times of so-called peace.
The US Veterans Administration puts the number of soldiers or ex-servicemen taking their own lives at around 22 a day. That is over 8,000 military-related suicides every year - more than the number of fatalities among American troops serving in purported combat zones.
Tens of thousands of US military personnel return from the American killing fields abroad deeply traumatized by what they have committed or have witnessed. These individuals are often discarded in post-military life to endure poverty, family breakdown, unemployment, drug addiction and homelessness - beneath a heap of psychological damage. And if they confess to what they may have witnessed while on duty, they run the risk of persecution behind bars for being "a traitor".
Significantly, the suicide rate among US military personnel – more than double the rate among civilians - has increased dramatically since 2005, according to official figures. That fact alone is an indicator of the moral corruption that is at the heart of American imperialism and the abuse of its foot soldiers.
It is also related to the upsurge in cases of sexual violence and harassment within the American military. If laws are so routinely broken by occupying American military forces towards civilians in foreign countries, then it is little wonder that these personnel have lost all moral compass within their own ranks.
Ivan Lopez, the latest US military shooter, was a veteran of Iraq. He was said to have been suffering from psychological "issues" before going on his murder spree against his own comrades at Fort Hood on Wednesday.
In a recent American media interview, days before the latest shooting, President Obama said that after a decade of wars the US military had become exhausted and was not capable of fighting another war. He was referring obliquely to possible deployment against Russian forces over the Ukraine tensions.
Obama's banal comment about "exhaustion" is one way of putting it. More accurately, the US military has been degraded to become a criminal killing machine that is now finding itself drowning in a moral cesspit made by its political leaders.
The biggest enemy the US military faces is itself and the American war criminals in high office.
FC/SL
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It is of little importance how many disturbed Americans servicing in the armed forces are killing other Americans that are also servicing in the armed forces, as long as when a tally is taken there are more Middle Eastern Muslims being killed, that is the only total we are concerned about.
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http://www.foreignpolicy.com/images/091130_wa...
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Pretty good ratio 4% 10,325 Americans killed against 100% Middle Eastern Muslims armed forces killed 288,000 in combat.
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Allah needs many virgins up there. nearly 21 million virgins and approximate 8 million young Nubian black boys to sexually service all the dead Muslims that were sent heaven by the Americans, not to mention the quantity of wine Allah will need to satisfy the Muslims in heaven.
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Fred

Sydney, Australia

#46746 Apr 5, 2014
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/03/31...

Good idea, why should Australians pay for lazy people.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/ne...

Miss Schofield's you know what those illegal immigrants would do to your skinny little teen body.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/asylum-seeke...

But student Daisy Stone, who was in the house last Thursday when her friend was attacked at 3.30am, said the victim and her housemates wanted the men moved.

Wake up to yourself, they are suitable for this country.
Nic

Bankstown, Australia

#46751 Apr 5, 2014
Go Le Gay cochon Baron GO wrote:
I like underage boys and girls, I'm a a good devout Muslim.
We know Pedo boy we know, have you shoved a living snake up your arse ?

“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#46752 Apr 5, 2014
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

Right To Resist Oppression

By Paul Balles

December 15, 2013 "Information Clearing House - In August 2004 Richard Hugus, critic of progressive injustice, wrote an article called "Lies of the Israeli peace movement".

What Hugus wrote almost 10 years ago has as much forgotten or neglected relevance today.

In an announcement for a meeting, the public was invited to hear from "bereaved Israeli and Palestinian families supporting peace, reconciliation and tolerance".

Referring to a meeting between Jews and Palestinians, Hugus points to progressives like Noam Chomsky.

These progressives have spoken of "what is 'realistic', as if it's realistic to remove an entire people from their country by massacre and attrition, to jail inside 24-foot high walls any who remain, to shoot children in the street, to destroy farmland and water supplies, to drive people to starvation, to wage war on rock-throwers with F-16s, tanks and attack helicopters..."

If that wasn't enough, these progressive liberators "never acknowledge" that facts created and gains made by Ariel Sharon and all his predecessors were atrocious crimes.

"To the double-talking liberal, it is not 'realistic' to stop any of this, and give Palestinians back what was stolen," he wrote.

"Genocide is realistic; justice is not. The progressive 'realist' is finally no different than the right wing Zionist."

Almost 10 years of repetition and Hugus' message has sunk into very few Western minds.

Hugus concludes with the observation that everyone should be making: "It is time to respond to the pacifist progressive in particular who collaborates with the oppressor by equating and condemning all violence.

"The language of resistance must be clearly spoken: It is right for Palestinians to resist the occupation, not just the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza, but of all of Palestine, by whatever means possible..."

This is the argument that even the most righteous of commentators has been afraid to make.

He offers a similarly honest view regarding the resistance of other populations fighting invasion.

"It is right for the Iraqi resistance to resist the similar vicious US occupation of Iraq," he said.

"It was right for the Sioux to resist, it was right for the African slave to resist, it was right for the Vietnamese to resist.

"In no way can the minor losses of the oppressor be equated with or compensate for the original crime of his aggression."

Hugus appropriately draws the historical parallels that have bedevilled others.

He voices one of the only meaningful and justifiable arguments for violent resistance.

"It is time for progressives in the US to openly and clearly support resistance to the monster that the US has become and the entities it supports, like Israel, and increasingly this means rejecting the false language of the pacifist," he argues.

So it's time to stop the labelling of members of legitimate resistance movements as terrorists.

Remember, the real terrorists are the thieves who stole Palestinian land and freedom.

Hugus conclues: "The conflict in Palestine is not morally ambiguous. It is not a battle between two sides who are equally guilty.

"Zionists attacked, Palestinians defended. There is a right and a wrong."

Hugus is right. The pacifists are wrong. Ten years is longer than enough for a fitting response.

Palestinians must resist the illegal settlements in Palestine until people get their land and their dignity back.





They must resist the temptation to expect others to fight or negotiate for them. And they must resist the temptation to give up.

Paul J. Balles is a retired American university professor and freelance writer who has lived in the Middle East for many years.

“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#46753 Apr 6, 2014
NT wrote:
01. Islam's written history states that when Muhammad was close to death his so called companions were in short supply due to being at war at the time and many having died on the battle field and the number was nowhere near 124000 more like 50 or less .

02. You keep on about the death total not exceeding 1000 so why don't you tell us the population of each nomadic group that were overcome in battle against Muhammad's cavalry; Tell us the population of each settlement that was overcome with violence MUQ ?

03. Who wrote an authentic biography MUQ .
You being born in India you can only believe what is written , you didn't live that life from birth as an Arabian who learn' t it from their fathers before them and that is your difference .
I am not laughing at you more so so I pity you for you being you MUQ.
Ans.

01. I do not know what "twisted biography" of our prophet you have to substantiate your claim. Why all 125, 000 of his followers have to camp at Madina t the time of his death?

02. I tell you the figure of 1,000 because every one keeps on harping his wars and his executing every one who did not accept his faith.

What was the total number of Arabs living in the land at that time? It was much more than 1000!! This 1000 is not even 0.5 % of the total population!!

03. Who wrote "authentic biography" of Any prophet in the world?

Our prophet's biography is the Most authentic of any one written at any time.

You should pity yourself and not me for having so little info about our prophet and showing it to every one on this thread.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#46754 Apr 6, 2014
Go Le Gay cochon Baron GO wrote:
<quoted text>
"Arabian who learn' t it from their fathers before them" - poor Mandy's getting funny with her apostrophes again.
So you are Arabian, Nev, which nomadic " more so so " group do you belong to?
You can blame the satellite for the apostrophe malfunction but it's a shame the same satellite couldn't beam you into a black hole somewhere out into the galaxy faraway . LAYCB. hehe .

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#46755 Apr 6, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. I do not know what "twisted biography" of our prophet you have to substantiate your claim. Why all 125, 000 of his followers have to camp at Madina t the time of his death?
02. I tell you the figure of 1,000 because every one keeps on harping his wars and his executing every one who did not accept his faith.
What was the total number of Arabs living in the land at that time? It was much more than 1000!! This 1000 is not even 0.5 % of the total population!!
03. Who wrote "authentic biography" of Any prophet in the world?
Our prophet's biography is the Most authentic of any one written at any time.
You should pity yourself and not me for having so little info about our prophet and showing it to every one on this thread.
Seeing you know so much MUQ how did Muhammad die ?
What is the official version ?

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#46756 Apr 6, 2014
Go Le Gay cochon Baron GO wrote:
Quick, someone stick something up my ass! Anything. A cucumber, a loaf of bread... your finger... How 'bout your dork? That's it. Treat me right dady. I'l suck you off and teabag your nutsack.
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Beady is out of control, Beady loves what men do to him.
Ollie

Bankstown, Australia

#46757 Apr 6, 2014
Go Le Gay cochon Baron GO wrote:
If I see any stray dogs hanging around I entice them into my taxi, and take them home. Any animals will do, I luv it when they jump up on my back.
Woof Woof
Muslim chimp

Wentworthville, Australia

#46758 Apr 6, 2014
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Seeing you know so much MUQ how did Muhammad die ?
What is the official version ?
This should be interesting - if the little monkey can even reply. muslims live in fear of the facts and evidence of the bakri murder of Muhammad.

(and note even more 3 month old & false IPH Saudi crap cut & paste from muq1. A trained
chimp could do that)
Cleansing muslims

Wentworthville, Australia

#46759 Apr 6, 2014
Baron44 wrote:
<quoted text>
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It is of little importance how many disturbed Americans servicing in the armed forces are killing other Americans that are also servicing in the armed forces, as long as when a tally is taken there are more Middle Eastern Muslims being killed, that is the only total we are concerned about.
-
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/images/091130_wa...

Pretty good ratio 4% 10,325 Americans killed
against 100% Middle Eastern Muslims armed forces killed 288,000 in combat.
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Allah needs many virgins up there. nearly 21 million virgins and approximate 8 million young
Nubian black boys to sexually service all the
dead Muslims that were sent heaven by the Americans, not to mention the quantity of wine
Allah will need to satisfy the Muslims in heaven.
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Very good, your right it's all the loss ratio.
-actually its only a 3.4% loss ratio.
100 Muslims killed for only 3.4 non muslims.
So with 1.3 billion muslims, we could remove the whole lot with less than 44 million dead.
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And obviously with scale, and using more proxies the loss ratio to the west could be almost zero.

We could get the Hindu to get rid of several
hundred million, & china the same.

Give every African and Buddhist a machete that sings for the lord - that gets rid of about half.
But think of all the people in our defense & miltary / industrial ego would be unemployed..

I think the spectacle of assisting muslim v Muslim like in Syria & North Africa is better.
The west, China & Russia etc supplies them the means to do that.
Thats the best model of all. 0% loss ratio.
Go Le Gay Nev GO

Amsterdam, Netherlands

#46760 Apr 6, 2014
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
You can blame the satellite for the apostrophe malfunction but it's a shame the same satellite couldn't beam you into a black hole somewhere out into the galaxy faraway . LAYCB. hehe .
LAYCB, hehe, what's that, Mandy?

Been hiding in your vagina, haven't you, whatever it is?
Go Le Gay Doggie Baron GO

Amsterdam, Netherlands

#46761 Apr 6, 2014
Baron44 wrote:
<quoted text>
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Beady is out of control, Beady loves what men do to him.
Seeing as it is now established that you are the out of control ID thief in that post, what else do you like what men do to you , CASTRATO?

"If I see any stray dogs hanging around I entice them into my taxi, and take them home. Any animals will do, I luv it when they jump up on my back." - and dogs.

PakiPoof Porky CASTRATO Black Muzza Piggy, you are a sham squealing like a stuffed feral pig. and barking like a wild mongrel mutt and always making a LUNATIC, ASS and DORK and IDIOT of yourself.

YOUR us COMPANY AND PROFILE DETAILS, and business and websites he owns, of course he uses a different name.NOW, for the proof you are not full of shite, IDIOTIC flikker - NOW, Le Gay Slumpufdoggy,
Quran asks us to fight

Japan

#46764 Apr 6, 2014
Cleansing muslims wrote:
<quoted text>
Very good, your right it's all the loss ratio.
-actually its only a 3.4% loss ratio.
100 Muslims killed for only 3.4 non muslims.
So with 1.3 billion muslims, we could remove the whole lot with less than 44 million dead.
-
And obviously with scale, and using more proxies the loss ratio to the west could be almost zero.
We could get the Hindu to get rid of several
hundred million, & china the same.
Give every African and Buddhist a machete that sings for the lord - that gets rid of about half.
But think of all the people in our defense & miltary / industrial ego would be unemployed..
I think the spectacle of assisting muslim v Muslim like in Syria & North Africa is better.
The west, China & Russia etc supplies them the means to do that.
Thats the best model of all. 0% loss ratio.
Lol, dream on sucking your pops com

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