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Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46750 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#44096 Dec 18, 2013
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Pit Of Hopelessness: Guantanamo Grows Tense, Inmates Suicidal

By RT

April 22, 2013 "Information Clearing House" -"RT" - At least two Guantanamo Bay detainees have attempted suicide since the confrontation between guards and prisoners in February that brought about the ongoing hunger strike, AP reports.


A team of journalists, including from AP, have been allowed into the facilities. They testify the atmosphere has grown tense and heavy in the prison where 166 men are indefinitely held with little to no hope of release. Still they were not allowed to gather more information on the two suicide attempts.

At least seven people have managed to kill themselves since Guantanamo was first set up in 2002.

The fact that Gitmo has turned into a pit of hopelessness is confirmed both by the detainee's lawyers and some US officials. While the number of officially-acknowledged hunger strikers is growing, most prisoners are isolated from each other and the world.

"How can the military, even the military, hope to maintain discipline over a prison camp where there is absolutely no hope for those men confined here?" Lieutenant Commander Kevin Bogucki, a US Navy Military Lawyer who was visiting his clients at the base this week, told AP.

"Until such time as our government starts to do the right thing in connection with Guantanamo Bay, the frustration is only going to continue to build and I can't imagine that the outcome will be good," he added.

Out of 86 Guantanamo prisoners cleared for the release, the overwhelming majority - 56 of them - are Yemeni nationals, RT's Gayane Chichakyan points out. However, three years ago the US suspended all transfers of detainees to Yemen. It may well mean dying in Guantanamo, Omar Farah, petitioner for the Center of Constitutional Rights, believes.

"Our clients are coming to grips with the cold fact: they may well die in Guantanamo not because the state is unable to transfer them, but because it's unwilling to do so. The transfer restrictions are difficult, for example, they would require the secretary of defense to personally certify that a receiving state are taking steps to ensure that a prisoner can never threaten the United States in the future, whatever threat it might mean in that context. Obviously no state can guarantee that a future event will or will not occur, but that was the point - to discourage transfers from Guantanamo," Farah said.

US officials say there is no reason to lose hope, as they are working to make transfers happen. However, this pledge lacks action.

"The indefinite detention that they're asking for or are justifying is under the laws of war," Kristina Kuskey, petitioner for Physicians for Human Rights said. "In US minds that war ends at the end of hostilities. Against who? Al-Qaeda and associative forces. What does that mean? That's indefinite! That is the epitome of indefinite."

US military has acknowledged 84 prisoners have currently joined the hunger strike, 16 of them are being force-fed, while five have been hospitalized. The strike started early in February over guards' alleged interference with the inmates' private belongings, raising anger over 'mishandling' of Korans. No efforts on the part of the US military authorities to stop the strike have so far been successful.

Multiple human rights and medical associations have condemned force-feeding, the UN Human Rights commission even labeling the practice of force feeding a form of torture.

See also

Over Half the Prisoners at Guantanamo Are Now on a Hunger Strike: The latest report from United States officials puts the number of inmates on hunger strike at 84 — there are 166 total inmates at Guantanamo — with at least 17 of them being force fed.
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#44097 Dec 18, 2013
Hopefully all the Gitmo prisoners will soon commit suicide or do whatever Muslims do to die, and then we will be able to close the place.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#44098 Dec 18, 2013
Serpent wrote:
Hopefully all the Gitmo prisoners will soon commit suicide or do whatever Muslims do to die, and then we will be able to close the place.
Why would you close the place? Are there no more terrorists in the world except those who are in GITMO?

What about GWB and Cheney? The RIGHTFUL occupants of those cells?

GITMO would always live as a symbol of "failure of US Justice"...

The "Most Dreaded Terrorists on earth" could not be charged and punished according to any law of the land.

Only course left was to deny them justice and hold them prisoner without any law.

GITMO would always remain open!!
LLOL LLOL

Wiley Park, Australia

#44099 Dec 18, 2013
Truth for dumb arse Bogans…………...

Two members of Congress, specially authorized to view documents on 9/11 censored under the personal authority of President Bush (43), have come away “absolutely shocked,” demanding immediate action.

However, the full story, told for the first time below, explains “why now” and who is really being targeted by revelations of cover-up and conspiracy.

In accusations published yesterday by the leading Tea Party publication, Family Security Matters, Saudi Defense Minister and Intelligence chief Prince Bandar referred to as “Bandar Bush” in his Wikipedia biography for his close relationship with that family, was said to be the planner of 9/11.

In an article by Paul Sperry of the Hoover Institute, Bandar was cited with fleeing the US to avoid prosecution. Here, Sperry quotes a government source:“Our investigations contributed to the ambassador’s departure,” an investigator who worked with the Joint Terrorism Task Force in Washington told me, though Bandar says he left for “personal reasons.”

Despite these pronouncements, these accusations may well be unfounded speculation. What we have to ask is why are they being made now and why by political groups long close to the Saudi government. Why has Saudi Arabia failed to respond to these very public accusations coming from some of the highest authorities in Washington?“Why are the rats turning on each other?”

Startling disclosures?

This week, Congressional representatives Stephen Lynch (D-MA) and Walter Jones (R-NC) have officially requested a congressional resolution demanding President Obama declassify the heavily redacted Congressional Investigative Report on 9/11.

The two representatives had just been given authority under penalty of “national security secrecy” to read the censored 28 pages of the 800-page report that had not been seen.

For nearly a decade, the US has maintained security policies, both domestic and international, based on threats now known to have been totally fabricated. The cost, trillions of dollars, thousands of Americans dead in wars against “enemies” long known to have never been involved in terror attacks on America, the phony “hunt for bin Laden,” all of it, nothing but utter hogwash.

Bush cited as conspirator

What has been made clear is that President Bush was fully aware that neither Afghanistan nor Iraq were involved in 9/11 and that military action against those two nations was done to cover involvement of his administration in 9/11, involvement that included support from foreign intelligence agencies.

The representatives, while reviewing the report, came to the portion titled “Specific Sources of Foreign Support.” A 28-page section here had been “butchered” by the White House on the personal orders of President Bush. On the original report given to Congress, an estimated 5-10,000 words were omitted from this section with page after page of dotted lines replacing text.
LLOL LLOL

Wiley Park, Australia

#44100 Dec 18, 2013
The full report carries a tale of not only broad complicity of foreign intelligence agencies but, in the use of the term “complicity,” indications of full knowledge of the funding and planning of 9/11 by the Bush administration.

However, the lawmakers, without the support of a resolution, are under a “gag order” and unable to name the nation or nations that supplied.

Israel, Saudi Arabia or both

Recent revelations tied to events in Syria and Egypt have exposed an unimagined level of cooperation between the intelligence services of Israel and Saudi Arabia. For years, Israel has cited Saudi Arabia as the greatest threat to their security, much greater than Iraq under Saddam or their claims of a “nuclear Iran.” This and much else of what Israel has publicly claimed as part of their “mythology of victimization” is now recognized as falsehood. Though both Israel and Saudi Arabia are known as allies of the US, their partnerships with America have been with specific groups, extremists within government and the military willing to back the plots now plainly evident even when US interests are sacrificed or even American lives are lost.

Telling, today, is the relationship between Al-Nusra and other al-Qaeda “franchises” and the Israeli/Saudi alliance, a relationship that has provided both financial support and weapons, used against Syria, Lebanon and Iraq.

The sections of the 9/11 report that were censored by President Bush may well include reference to that al-Qaeda/Israel/Saudi nexus. What is clear is that not only did the Bush administration wrongly blame bin Laden or “al-Qaeda,” a spurious and illusory group at best, but that those cited, Israel, Saudi Arabia or both, though named for funding and supporting the 9/11 attack, were always under the full control of the Bush administration.

What does exist is proof that the war on terror was, in reality as confirmed by General Wesley Clark, a plan to invade and occupy 7 oil- and gas-rich nations.

Israel put the blame on Saudi Arabia

In an article released yesterday on www.familysecuritymatters.org , Paul Sperry of the Hoover Institute cited, not just the Saudi government as having been behind 9/11 but set the relationship between George W. Bush and Prince Bandar at the crux of the conspiracy.

After the 9/11 attacks, the public was told al-Qaeda acted alone, with no state sponsors.“But the White House never let it see an entire section of Congress’ investigative report on 9/11 dealing with “specific sources of foreign support” for the 19 hijackers, 15 of whom were Saudi nationals.

It was kept secret and remains so today. President Bush inexplicably censored 28 full pages of the 800-page report.”

Sperry goes on:“Saudi consulate official Fahad al-Thumairy allegedly arranged for an advance team to receive two of the Saudi hijackers - Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi - as they arrived at LAX in 2000.”

Sperry goes on citing instance after instance where Saudi intelligence directly aided al-Qaeda every step of the way.

What is important is that we understand who Sperry represents. Family Security Matters isn’t a simple blog. It is the voice of not just the extreme right but AIPAC as well. Their editors include Senator Ted Cruz, top GOP domestic policy maker and former UN Ambassador John Bolton, Islamophobe extremist,“Israel Firster” and a man who never saw a war he didn’t love.

“Family Matters” is the power center for everything pro-money, pro-hate and pro-Israel. Self-proclaimed “investigative journalist Paul Sperry serves with the Hoover Institute, along with former Secretary of State Condi Rice. The critical aspect of yesterday’s article is that it represents the first time the Israel lobby has been willing to throw former President Bush “under a bus” in order to distance themselves from accusations of complicity in 9/11.
LLOL LLOL

Wiley Park, Australia

#44101 Dec 18, 2013
Prior to the exposure of Israel’s role as “mentor” for al-Qaeda in Syria, America’s media was able to suppress not just “conspiracy theories” but accusations backed by evidence and testimony that placed Israel at the center of the 9/11 attacks.

Prince Bandar accused of planning 9/11

Though there is no reason to assume Saudi Arabia is mentioned whatsoever in the redacted Congressional report, Sperry cites payments by Bandar to the alleged 9/11 hijackers and other funding to al-Qaeda.

“Other al Qaeda funding was traced back to Bandar and his embassy - so much so that by 2004 Riggs Bank of Washington had dropped the Saudis as a client. The next year, as a number of embassy employees popped up in terror probes, Riyadh recalled Bandar.”

Real from conjecture

Members of Congress have openly admitted that they have seen documentation that would support an immediate criminal investigation against President Bush (43) and his closest advisors. Further, those agencies involved in compiling this report, key portions of which have remained secret, were also responsible for lying to the 9/11 Commission, not just through omission. All the intelligence that sent America into two wars is now not just suspect, it is proven false.

Recognizing that the nations responsible have not yet been named, though attempts by Family Security Matters to subvert this process are underway, what does stand is evidence of the same conspiracy.

From a CIA transcript dated September 24, 2001, Osama bin Laden is quoted:“The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; the people who are a part of the US system, but are dissenting against it. Or those who are working for some other system; persons who want to make the present century as a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity so that their own civilization, nation, country, or ideology could survive.”

Family Security Matters celebrates the death of Osama bin Laden as a terrorist fanatic. They also celebrate the death of Nelson Mandela as a terrorist fanatic. Mandela was right, as history has shown.

GD/HJL

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#44102 Dec 18, 2013
LLOL LLOL wrote:
Truth for dumb arse Bogans…………...
Two members of Congress, specially authorized to view documents on 9/11 censored under the personal authority of President Bush (43), have come away “absolutely shocked,” demanding immediate action.
However, the full story, told for the first time below, explains “why now” and who is really being targeted by revelations of cover-up and conspiracy.
In accusations published yesterday by the leading Tea Party publication, Family Security Matters, Saudi Defense Minister and Intelligence chief Prince Bandar referred to as “Bandar Bush” in his Wikipedia biography for his close relationship with that family, was said to be the planner of 9/11.
In an article by Paul Sperry of the Hoover Institute, Bandar was cited with fleeing the US to avoid prosecution. Here, Sperry quotes a government source:“Our investigations contributed to the ambassador’s departure,” an investigator who worked with the Joint Terrorism Task Force in Washington told me, though Bandar says he left for “personal reasons.”
Despite these pronouncements, these accusations may well be unfounded speculation. What we have to ask is why are they being made now and why by political groups long close to the Saudi government. Why has Saudi Arabia failed to respond to these very public accusations coming from some of the highest authorities in Washington?“Why are the rats turning on each other?”
Startling disclosures?
This week, Congressional representatives Stephen Lynch (D-MA) and Walter Jones (R-NC) have officially requested a congressional resolution demanding President Obama declassify the heavily redacted Congressional Investigative Report on 9/11.
The two representatives had just been given authority under penalty of “national security secrecy” to read the censored 28 pages of the 800-page report that had not been seen.
For nearly a decade, the US has maintained security policies, both domestic and international, based on threats now known to have been totally fabricated. The cost, trillions of dollars, thousands of Americans dead in wars against “enemies” long known to have never been involved in terror attacks on America, the phony “hunt for bin Laden,” all of it, nothing but utter hogwash.
Bush cited as conspirator
What has been made clear is that President Bush was fully aware that neither Afghanistan nor Iraq were involved in 9/11 and that military action against those two nations was done to cover involvement of his administration in 9/11, involvement that included support from foreign intelligence agencies.
The representatives, while reviewing the report, came to the portion titled “Specific Sources of Foreign Support.” A 28-page section here had been “butchered” by the White House on the personal orders of President Bush. On the original report given to Congress, an estimated 5-10,000 words were omitted from this section with page after page of dotted lines replacing text.
"LLOL LLOL" thinks people actually read his posts when the reality is they are not worth a brass razoo. LMAO
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#44103 Dec 18, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
<quoted text>
"LLOL LLOL" thinks people actually read his posts when the reality is they are not worth a brass razoo. LMAO
And why this rule shall not apply to your highly objectionable posts?

What LOL has written makes sense, in your posts except for hate and name calling, there is very little else.

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#44104 Dec 18, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
And why this rule shall not apply to your highly objectionable posts?
What LOL has written makes sense, in your posts except for hate and name calling, there is very little else.

The fact that people such as you respond to them and try to defend them. LOL

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#44105 Dec 18, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
And why this rule shall not apply to your highly objectionable posts?
What LOL has written makes sense, in your posts except for hate and name calling, there is very little else.
Of course it makes sense to you because people around the world are killing innocents in the name of Islam and you appear to support this based on your own posts
MUQ mosque choice

Sydney, Australia

#44106 Dec 19, 2013
LLOL LLOL wrote:
recent exposure of Israel’s role as “mentor” for al-Qaeda in Syria,
Prince Bandar accused of planning 9/11 Sperry cites payments by Bandar to the alleged 9/11 hijackers so USA could have excuse blah blah to make the present century as a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity blah
We know all this. Bin Laden the Saudi Yemenite was on the CIA payroll, ab then infected with the rabies of Al Zahawiri & anti west Nasserism
and with cia help, formed a synthetic of al qaida based on lies about jihad martyrdom going back to Ibn tayyaminah & the 'outsiders'- leading to 911 etc. USA using the mad dogs of Islam as a pretext to invade and control the ME.
We know all this.
We also know Wahhabism is a british invented perversion of salafi designed to rip Islam apart.
We know the house of Saud are jews from bagdgad put there along with their cousins in Tel Aviv to run the ME as our vassals.
We know Bandar is the bagman and Saudi govt and ignorant jizya refugees like MUQ fund the attacks, killing & terror on Syria.
It's well known Qatar & Saudi via Bandar fund the attack of Syria and of course Israel would be helpful, ESP when Muskims kill Muskims.. So not sure why you post this cut & paste as it's old news.
Instead.
How about your opinion on what murder syndicate MUQ will sponsor and put his 120 SaR
down on as a bet in the mosque later on today after prayers ?
•Kill some more Shia in Iraq ?
•Shopping centre attack in Africa,...
•Kill and use poison gas against fellow Sunni to try and blame the Shia & Allawite ?
->Which one of these syndicates do you think MUW will bet his money on on this week ?
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#44107 Dec 19, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would you close the place? Are there no more terrorists in the world except those who are in GITMO?
.

GITMO would always live as a symbol of "failure of US Justice"...
The "Most Dreaded Terrorists on earth" could not be charged and punished according to any law of the land.
!!
No there are a lot of terrorists still around. As long as there are Muslims, there will always be terrorists.

Again, No, Americans have the most advanced justice system in the world. What you hear about Gitmo is still part of the justice system.
No other country can match the US justice system!! Certainly not India's hahaha what a joke there system is. And of course Saudi's is even worse.,
LLOL LLOL

Wiley Park, Australia

#44108 Dec 19, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
<quoted text>
"LLOL LLOL" thinks people actually read his posts when the reality is they are not worth a brass razoo. LMAO
LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, More evil by white trash like shitla….the shit cleaning nurse…from the mouth of one of their own…...LLOL,LLOL

DECEMBER 19, 2013

Where are the Condemnations of Australia?

Down Where Apartheid Lives
by JOHN PILGER

In the late 1960s, I was given an usual assignment by the London Daily Mirror’s editor in chief, Hugh Cudlipp. I was to return to my homeland, Australia, and “discover what lies behind the sunny face”. The Mirror had been an indefatigable campaigner against apartheid in South Africa, where I had reported from behind the “sunny face”. As an Australian, I had been welcomed into this bastion of white supremacy.“We admire you Aussies,” people would say.“You know how to deal with your blacks.”

I was offended, of course, but I also knew that only the Indian Ocean separated the racial attitudes of the two colonial nations. What I was not aware of was how the similarity caused such suffering among the original people of my own country. Growing up, my school books had made clear, to quote one historian:“We are civilised, and they are not”. I remember how a few talented Aboriginal Rugby League players were allowed their glory as long as they never mentioned their people. Eddie Gilbert, the great Aboriginal cricketer, the man who bowled Don Bradman for a duck, was to be prevented from playing again. That was not untypical.

In 1969, I flew to Alice Springs in the red heart of Australia and met Charlie Perkins. At a time when Aboriginal people were not even counted in the census — unlike the sheep — Charlie was only the second Aborigine to get a university degree. He had made good use of this distinction by leading “freedom rides” into racially segregated towns in the outback of New South Wales. He got the idea from the freedom riders who went into the Deep South of the United States.

We hired an old Ford, picked up Charlie’s mother Hetti, an elder of the Aranda people, and headed for what Charlie described as ”hell”. This was Jay Creek, a “native reserve”, where hundreds of Aboriginal people were corralled in conditions I had seen in Africa and India. One outside tap trickled brown; there was no sanitation; the food, or “rations”, was starch and sugar. The children had stick-thin legs and the distended bellies of malnutrition.

What struck me was the number of grieving mothers and grandmothers – bereft at the theft of children by the police and “welfare” authorities who, for years, had taken away those infants with lighter skin. The policy was “assimilation”. Today, this has changed only in name and rationale.

The boys would end up working on white-run farms, the girls as servants in middle-class homes. This was undeclared slave labour. They were known as the Stolen Generation. Hetti Perkins told me that when Charlie was an infant she had kept him tied to her back, and would hide whenever she heard the hoofs of the police horses.“They didn’t get him,” she said, with pride.

In 2008, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd apologised for this crime against humanity. Older Aboriginal people were grateful; they believed that Australia’s first people — the most enduring human presence on earth — might finally receive the justice and recognition they had been denied for 220 years.

What few of them heard was the postscript to Rudd’s apology.“I want to be blunt about this,” he said.“There will be no compensation.” That 100,000 people deeply wronged and scarred by vicious racism – the product of a form of the eugenics movement with its links to fascism — would be given no opportunity to materially restore their lives was shocking, though not surprising. Most governments in Canberra, conservative or Labor, have insinuated that the First Australians are to blame for their suffering and poverty.
LLOL LLOL

Wiley Park, Australia

#44109 Dec 19, 2013
When the Labor government in the 1980s promised “full restitution” and land rights, the powerful mining lobby went on the attack, spending millions campaigning on the theme that “the blacks” would “take over your beaches and barbies”. The government capitulated, even though the lie was farcical; Aboriginal people comprise barely three per cent of the Australian population.

Today, Aboriginal children are again being stolen from their families. The bureaucratic words are “removed” for “child protection”. By July 2012, there were 13,299 Aboriginal children in institutions or handed over to white families. Today, the theft of these children is now higher than at any time during the last century. I have interviewed numerous specialists in child care who regard this as a second stolen generation.“Many of the kids never see their mothers and communities again,” Olga Havnen, the author of a report for the Northern Territory government, told me.“In the Northern Territory,$80 million was spent on surveillance and removing kids, and less than $500,000 on supporting these impoverished families. Families are often given no warning and have no idea where their children are being taken. The reason given is neglect – which means poverty. This is destroying Aboriginal culture and is racist. If apartheid South Africa had done this, there would have been an uproar.”

In the town of Wilcannia, New South Wales, the life expectancy of Aborigines is 37 – lower than the Central African Republic, perhaps the poorest country on earth, currently racked by civil war. Wilcannia’s other distinction is that the Cuban government runs a literacy programme there, teaching young Aboriginal children to read and write. This is what the Cubans are famous for – in the world’s poorest countries. Australia is one of the world’s richest countries.

I filmed similar conditions 28 years ago when I made my first film about indigenous Australia, The Secret Country. Vince Forrester, an Aboriginal elder I interviewed then, appears in my new film, Utopia. He guided me through a house in Mutitjulu where 32 people lived, mostly children, many of them suffering from otitis media, an infectious, entirely preventable disease that impairs hearing and speech.“Seventy per cent of the children in this house are partially deaf,” he said. Turning straight to my camera, he said,“Australians, this is what we call an abuse of human rights.”

The majority of Australians are rarely confronted with their nation’s dirtiest secret. In 2009, the respected United Nations Special Rapporteur, Professor James Anaya, witnessed similar conditions and described government “intervention” policies as racist. The then Minister for Indigenous Health, Tony Abbott, told him to “get a life” and stop listening to “the victim brigade”. Abbott is now the prime minister of Australia.

In Western Australia, minerals are being dug up from Aboriginal land and shipped to China for a profit of a billion dollars a week. In this, the richest,“booming” state, the prisons bulge with stricken Aboriginal people, including juveniles whose mothers stand at the prison gates, pleading for their release. The incarceration of black Australians here is eight times that of black South Africans during the last decade of apartheid.
LLOL LLOL

Wiley Park, Australia

#44110 Dec 19, 2013
When Nelson Mandela was buried this week, his struggle against apartheid was duly celebrated in Australia, though the irony was missing. Apartheid was defeated largely by a global campaign from which the South African regime never recovered. Similar opprobrium has seldom found its mark in Australia, principally because the Aboriginal population is so small and Australian governments have been successful in dividing and co-opting a disparate leadership with gestures and vacuous promises. That may well be changing. A resistance is growing, yet again, in the Aboriginal heartland, especially among the young. Unlike the US, Canada and New Zealand, which have made treaties with their first people, Australia has offered gestures often wrapped in the law. However, in the 21st century the outside world is starting to pay attention. The specter of Mandela’s South Africa is a warning.

John Pilger’s documentary, Utopia, is broadcast on ITV in Britain on 19 December at 10.35pm, and will be launched in Australia in January. For details, see www.utopiajohnpilger.co.uk .

This article first appeared in the London Daily Mirror.

“Live N Let Live”

Since: Dec 13

Mumbai

#44111 Dec 19, 2013
Have an amicable solution in a democratic way!
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#44112 Dec 19, 2013
Serpent wrote:
<quoted text>
No there are a lot of terrorists still around. As long as there are Muslims, there will always be terrorists.
Again, No, Americans have the most advanced justice system in the world. What you hear about Gitmo is still part of the justice system.
No other country can match the US justice system!! Certainly not India's hahaha what a joke there system is. And of course Saudi's is even worse.,
If GITMO is what American Justice system is, then it is not a justice system at all, it is pure tyranny.

Accusing people of crime and providing no proofs against them....is that justice system?

Definition of Terrorism is based on acts and not based on religion.

Any one doing acts of Terror is terrorist, religion does not come into picture at all.
MUQ the hypocrite liar

Merrylands, Australia

#44113 Dec 20, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
If GITMO is what American Justice system is, then it is not a justice system at all, it is pure tyranny.
Accusing people of crime and providing no proofs against them....is that justice system?
Definition of Terrorism is based on acts and not based on religion.
Any one doing acts of Terror is terrorist, religion does not come into picture at all.
Muq lies again.
Such a hypocrite.
Islam preaches violence & terrorism.
Jihad terrorism and murder of non Muslims is institutionalized thruout Islam.
Every single page of the confected & plagarised Quran preaches some form of death, murder, hatred and violence against others.
Ibn Taymiyyah then took the Islamic cult of murder and oppression of innocents to a new level and not only legitimized it but rewarded it.
Al Zahawari then fanned the flames of Islamic cult murder of others and Bin Laden was his follower.
So the complaint of the West's GItmo 'being harsh' seems ironic... most other races and
nations would have nuked or wiped out such a threat in far more direct and explicit means.
And how about you MUQ ?
Off to prayers today ?
What murder syndicate at the mosque are you going to lay down your 80 SAR bet on today ?
• To Kill other Muslims in Syria ?
• Another shopping centre slaughter ?
• Maybe to kill a 1,000 a month Shia in Iraq ?
• Maybe to plot & kill fellow Indians because they are Hindu ?
Tell us MUQ how you as an Indian guest worker in Saudi can go to prayers and do not have to pay at least 80 SAR (about $26 AUD) as your 'expected' comtribition each week to an Islamic death syndicate.(5-8% of MUQ's weekly pay).
Because you have to. All Muslims exactly like you fund the death and terrorism of Islam.
If you don't then they turn on you don't they ?
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You tell us lies MUQ, but we know the truth.
You personally promote and fund murder of innocents including other Muslims. Every Muslim has to. And given your hatred and envy of the west and christians, we can reasonably conclude you willing donate to these murder syndicates.
You would be at the front of the queue at the mosque in paying into them - right ?
Because this is the real Islam exposed. Hypocrites & liars who practice their taqiyya, who pray to Baal & driven by the evil within them.
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#44114 Dec 20, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
If GITMO is what American Justice system is, then it is not a justice system at all, it is pure tyranny.
Accusing people of crime and providing no proofs against them....is that justice system?
Definition of Terrorism is based on acts and not based on religion.
Any one doing acts of Terror is terrorist, religion does not come into picture at all.
Gitmo is part of the justice system, it is in line with the Geneva convention.
It's a very insignificant issue here.

Why are you so preoccupied with the American justice system anyways??
Are you trying to have these terrorists let out so they can harm us again?? Would you like to see that happen??

Why don't worry more about India and all of its systems??

Like the raping and molesting of girls, the abandonment and killing of newborns if they are girls, forced arranged marriages, honor killings etc etc etc.
We are getting a lot of Indian advertisements asking us from the west to donate money to India to help those who have leprosy as they are abandoned by the husband and family and they are forced to live in dog houses.

Why don't you worry yourself about these gross injustices in your own shithole country??

Don't worry about Gitmo, the prisoners there live like kings.

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#44115 Dec 20, 2013
LLOL LLOL wrote:
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Did you post something???? No I didn't think so. LMAO

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