Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46739 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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Islam murder syndicates

Merrylands, Australia

#44068 Dec 15, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>Re a Saudi cleric call that jihad martyrdom is un islamic. Read it Arab news, wondering why nobody has taken notice past 11 years .
->Do you take notice of what he says MUQ ?
Re a Saudi cleric call jihad martyrdom is un islamic & does MUQ adheres to that ?
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The number of Muslims participating in 'martyr suicide' has compounded year on year for 2  decades, but the targets have changed. 
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In Islam when a muslim dies they automatically go to hell (crawling on their knees etc Quran)
and stays in Hell until Allah calls a 'judgment day'. At the right of 'Allah' is the 'black stone'- pieces of allahs moon face fallen from heaven  - 
his tongue ? because now the black stone 'speaks', judging  everyone, based on who kissed, hailed or prayed to him. No wonder
Muslims got in a frenzy when it was destroyed in 920Ad. On the other side of Allah is Hubal, our ''lord of the Kaaba' who MUQ worships
That's stock islam & their 'heaven' belief. 
The Muslim can not 'know god', god is not within them, does not send himself, live as part of their spirit etc. sura : 19 & others. 
These are all Baal concepts that traces back to caananite & 'nihilist' nature based god that is sacrifice & cant 'be known'.
The term jihadist initially describes those who waged war against Muhammad), then outsiders (of Islam), then Puritan, then struggle etc. 
The concept of a 'holy death' and killing others to a holy or 'cleansing cause' was there, but it was NOT 'rewarded'. Until... Ibn Taymiyyah.
In the 11th century - islam was smashed asunder by the Mongol hordes and pushed into Egypt.
In desperation  Ibn taymiyyah promised any
Muslim who committed suicide with death to the mongol enemy  - got a fast 'pass' to heaven. 
It was orations of Ibn taymiyyah the  911 bombers were reciting as they went into the
world towers. 
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Skip now to Nasser - and then Al Zahawri, who was Bin Ladens mentor. Bin Laden was more Yemenite than Saudi & Wahhabi CIA funded dog of the west. He became radicalized with Al  
Zahawari's Nasserite socialism & anti west 'religion versus social organization' dogma. 
Al Zahawiri was the one who re ignited the '6th
pillar of Islam' of a sanctioned & REWARDED murder suicide of an 'enemy'. Al qaeda & subsequently many other Muslim fanatic groups 
suddenly gave themselves this new religious 'righteousness' to kill others at will as a '6th pillar of Islam'.
Thats what's happening now as Islam implodes in 'religious sanctioned murder' of each other. 
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The main source of funding for suicide bombers is Saudi, Jordan & Egypt & Pakistan & Indonesia & Malaysia ( it's a sunni thing).
 The funding is via 'syndicates' who outline an intent & promote to raise subscriptions for the actual killings to a target death count. 
In Iraq their target is to kill 1,000 Shia a month. In pakistan it's to drive the Shia out by mass and
targeted bombings. In Syria it's full on civil war. Or to defend north Mali from the French. Etc.
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Each Friday at the mosque, the Muslims gather to discuss their syndicates progress to the  murder targets. New syndicates & 'Martyrs' are promoted, with their attributes to 'do the job' in
killing the Shia or the allawite or the infidel. 
The more publicity the 'Martyrdom' gets, the more funding, and once word gets around on a
'hot new death syndicate' they all flock & jostle to sign up. I have seen all this.
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MUQ as a guest worker would have to fund murder syndicates. Has to. Probably 80-100 Sar.
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He has been asked which murder syndicates he backs, but perhaps is ashamed of this ugly truth about Islam is exposed. 
Christians go to church & donate to the poor & needy. God may reward them for their good acts.
Muslims go to the mosque,,,, to plot and fund how to commit murder.  Allah reward these murderers with a special 'fast pass' to heaven...
->All true isn't it MUQ? 
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This is 'peace loving Islam' & how it works.

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#44070 Dec 15, 2013
LLOL LLOL wrote:
<quoted text>
christians like to molest their children at home as its part of their culture and then take them to church so the pedo priests can do the same, how shameful these animals have no respect for innocent little children. I invite you animals to improve your savage living conditions and come to Islam.
specially stupid nurse shitla because she promote such behaviour and I also advise her to read and learn her own stupid language because she is always incoherent and always blabbering like blubber ,,,LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,
So with immediate effect you pedophiles should start by 30 days of praying for muslims? then how about coming to the real religion. the undistorted truth?
No trinity.
No guilty jesus.
No pedo fathers, no Lesbo mums, no gay dads…LLOL
No corrupt churches.
Try it !
No corrupt mosques??? LMAO.The Imams who abuse the children entrusted into their care and molest them in the mosques. The parents who molest their children in their homes and think its OK because let's face it that is what Mohammad did. He was a pedophile marrying a 6 year old girl and raping her when she was just a child of 9. In Islam women are no more than chattel and the men are told to go out to their fields and plow them as the "good book" says.

Even worse is women who are raped and as seen as the guilty ones. It is they who are stoned and whipped for something that the filthy men did.

Not all Christians believe in a trinity so get yourself educated.

No thanks Islam would never be something I could follow. I would rather die with my faith intact than follow a false moon god who allegedly choose a shizophrenic prophet who was partial to convulsions throughout his life
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#44072 Dec 15, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
I read it in the Arab news for the first time but I am wondering why nobody has taken notice of what he has said for the past 11 years .
Do you take notice of what he says ?
Yes the world media does not take notice of what he says. They pick up bits from here and there if it serves their purpose.

He is Grand Mufti of saudi Arabia and his rulings on questions of jurisprudence are "offical version".

I am not his official supporter, but I keep hearing his friday sermons and his lectures from time to time.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#44073 Dec 15, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
<quoted text>
There are no true Muslims, they are all related to the false prophet and his false god Allah.
Here you go off again on your journey to spread hate and hatred.

How you live with so much venom inside your body?

You have lost all sense of decency and speak in the most illogical ways.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#44074 Dec 15, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

America's War on Islam 2.0

By Stephen Lendman

(Contd.)
Murdoch’s New York Post “seemed committed to getting as many stories wrong about the Boston attack as possible.”

Before an arrest was made, CNN’s breaking news headlined “Sources: Arrest made in bombings case.” Reporter John King erroneously called him “dark-skinned.”
NAACP President Benjamin Todd Jealous responded, saying:

“Our concern is that CNN used an overly broad, unhelpful and potentially racially inflammatory categorization to describe the potential suspect. History teaches us that too often people of color are unfairly targeted in the aftermath of acts of terrorism.”

Post-Boston bombings, media misreporting was deplorable. It didn’t surprise.“Rush to misjudgment” is commonplace. Washington Post editors headlined “In pursuit of terrorists.”

Official reports were accepted as fact. The Tsarnaev brothers were blamed. A Chechen “extremist,”“Al Qaeda” or other “foreign group” connection was suggested.

“Much as some in Washington might wish it, the war against terrorism is not over….The Tszrnaevs….may have intended more mayhem: They were reportedly carrying more bombs when they were cornered Thursday.”

Note: Media misreporting said at least older brother Tamerlan wore an explosives vest. Photos of his body showed him riddled with bullets and shrapnel head to toe. All limbs were intact. He wasn’t blown to pieces.

New York Post editors headlined “The unfinished war,” saying:

“….These have been scary days.(It was) chilling to see how successfully the suspects, Chechen Muslim immigrants, were – not just in allegedly killing people, but in instilling widespread fear, especially in the Northeast.”

“The week served as a painful reminder that this nation remains in an ongoing fight against terror – and that the homeland is still vulnerable.”
“The war on terror isn’t over. Alas, far from it.”

Boston Globe editors headlined “Boston after the bombings: a show of character,” saying:

“(L)aw-enforcement officials and political leaders….put aside turf wars and expressions of egotism to focus on the killers….”

“….Boston’s character needs no further validation. The city is strong, and getting stronger.”

Chicago Tribune editors headlined “Accomplishing….nothing,” saying:

“….Boston bombing suspects (may) have had no motivation more complex than joyful cruelty.”

“This level of preparation, though, suggests that they had some motive more sophisticated than merely marauding through the lives of innocents.”

“The Boston massacre no doubt will help authorities worldwide rethink security preparations for mass events.”

Numerous print and broadcast reports highlighted a Chechen Muslim connection. The New York Times was typical headlining “Boston Attacks Turn Spotlight on Troubled Region of Chechnya,” saying:

Possible motivations of both brothers aren’t yet known, said The Times.“Yet, with at least one brother talking of Chechen nationalism on the Internet, their reported involvement in the marathon attack throws a spotlight on one of the darkest corners of nationalist and Islamic militancy….”

“Whether the Boston bombing was tied to it is still unclear, but a generation of young Chechen men have never known a peaceful homeland (and have had) difficulties finding a place abroad.”

America’s war on terror continues. Perhaps last week’s Boston bombings advanced it. Muslims remain America’s enemy of choice. Expect Obama and Congress to take full advantage. Expect the worst of times to follow.

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#44076 Dec 15, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Here you go off again on your journey to spread hate and hatred.
How you live with so much venom inside your body?
You have lost all sense of decency and speak in the most illogical ways.
You wouldn't know decency if it hit you in the face. You troll topix plying your false religion on multiple forums and wonder why most folks are not interested in what you try to sell. They see what is really happening in the world today and the actions of Muslims and not once have they seen you deny what these ratbags do. Illogical is what you try and portray as the" religion of peace" Actions speak louder than words

Let's see what Omar Ahmad the co-founder of CAIR had to say:

Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth.

Multipy that among the western countries around the world and we can see the true nature of the supremist ideology called Islam
sid

Chermside, Australia

#44077 Dec 15, 2013
Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth.

Yes and it's stupid statements like this that will bring the end of islam, when the west is sick of hearing your empty rhetoric and sabre rattling they will come down on you so hard your heads will spin.
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#44078 Dec 16, 2013
For MUQ!
This has been posted here before, I think? But it's so good I thought I would post it here again..

Muslims Happy?

The Muslims are not happy!

They're not happy in Gaza .
They're not happy in Egypt .
They're not happy in Libya .
They're not happy in Morocco.
They're not happy in Iran .
They're not happy in Iraq .
They're not happy in Yemen .
They're not happy in Afghanistan.
They're not happy in Pakistan.
They're not happy in Syria .
They're not happy in Lebanon.

So, where are they happy?

They're happy in Canada.
They're happy in Australia.
They're happy in England.
They're happy in France.
They're happy in Italy.
They're happy in Germany.
They're happy in Sweden.
They're happy in the USA.
They're happy in Norway.


They're happy in every country that is not Muslim.

And who do they blame?

Not Islam.
Not their leadership.
Not themselves.

THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!

AND THEY WANT TO CHANGE THEM TO BE LIKE THE COUNTRY THEY CAME FROM ..

WHERE THEY WERE UNHAPPY.

Excuse me, but ...
How stupid can you get?
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#44082 Dec 16, 2013
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The Boston Bombs Roused a Monster

An overreaction to the attacks could result in massive, self-important bodies wielding excessive powers and hounding the wrong people

By Patrick Cockburn

April 22, 2013 "Information Clearing House" -"The Independent" - The success or failure from the point of view of the perpetrators of an attack like the bombing of the Boston Marathon depends on the over-reaction of those targeted. The 9/11 attacks succeeded as an act of terror because it led to the US fighting disastrous wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and sanctioning the use of torture and imprisonment without trial. It turned the US into a more authoritarian state in which civil liberties are curtailed or discounted, and spawned an elephantine and costly security apparatus.

It was depressing to see heavily armed Swat teams with assault rifles and body armour debouching from armoured vehicles in Boston as they used to do in Belfast. Curfews, which people in Baghdad and Fallujah have become inured to, suddenly become acceptable in Massachusetts. In contrast to Northern Ireland and Iraq, this is done to the applause of local inhabitants. The reason for Swat teams and curfews is understandable, but measures like these get people cumulatively accustomed to accepting without protest an authoritarian government.

Much of the initial impact of the Boston bombing and the pursuit of Tamerlan and Dzhokar Tsarnaev, will dissipate. Unfolding stories like this swiftly shift from being over-covered to under-covered. Journalists know the feeling of relief and frustration when editors back home decide that the story to which they have been giving wall-to-wall coverage, is old news.

Unfortunately, this often happens at the very moment when the long-term significance of what has happened is becoming clearer. Pundits who have been making embarrassingly premature comments based on too limited evidence might at last have something revealing to say. Instead, they find that the media caravan has moved on and is no longer interested in their views.

An outcome of the bombings will be an enhanced sense of public insecurity, and support for those who claim to be doing something about it. Before the Boston attack there were signs of restiveness in the US at the excessive size of the post-9/11 security bureaucracy at a time of budget cuts.

The FBI, put in charge of investigating domestic terrorism by President Bush, has 103 joint terrorism task forces, supposedly linking local and state police to federal terrorism investigators. As a result of 9/11, the US has the services of the National Counterterrorism Centre, which analyses and collates intelligence information for the Office of the Director National Intelligence. This, in turn, is supposed to coordinate and oversee the work of America's 17 intelligence agencies. Then there is the sterling work of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) which unites the 22 federal departments and agencies that employ 240,000 people.

The creation of a bureaucratic Leviathan like this is more likely to impede than assist the gathering and analysis of intelligence. Too many people do not know what they are doing and there are too many layers of responsibility. Such vast organisations are on an endless quest to justify and expand their own influence and protect themselves

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#44083 Dec 17, 2013
LLOL LLOL wrote:
<quoted text>
christians like to molest their children at home as its part of their culture and then take them to church so the pedo priests can do the same, how shameful these animals have no respect for innocent little children. I invite you animals to improve your savage living conditions and come to Islam.
specially stupid nurse shitla because she promote such behaviour and I also advise her to read and learn her own stupid language because she is always incoherent and always blabbering like blubber ,,,LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,
So with immediate effect you pedophiles should start by 30 days of praying for muslims? then how about coming to the real religion. the undistorted truth?
No trinity.
No guilty jesus.
No pedo fathers, no Lesbo mums, no gay dads…LLOL
No corrupt churches.
Try it !
How many religions do you know of who don't have pedophiles amongst them in senior roles ?

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#44084 Dec 17, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Here you go off again on your journey to spread hate and hatred.
How you live with so much venom inside your body?
You have lost all sense of decency and speak in the most illogical ways.
What would it take you personally to release your soul from Islam enough that you would compare of your religion much like how you correctly describe Christianity seeing their birth place is of the same geographical location of the same peoples of this Earth .
I have read on this thread of Paul and his form of Christianity in Rome over that of Jesus who he never met to that of what the Mongols did with Islam to suit their needs so I ask of you ; Why do you need religion to communicate with god ?

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#44086 Dec 17, 2013
Why would god invent peoples of this planet of different races and language and customs only to see them miss matched through multiculturalism and religious faiths .
Religion insults us that it thinks it has the righteous path over that of other religions and their peoples in their quest to be seen in the eyes of god when in fact we are all in the eyes of god so why do we need religion to clutter up our lives and to bring harm to the world ?
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#44087 Dec 17, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

The Boston Bombs Roused a Monster

An overreaction to the attacks could result in massive, self-important bodies wielding excessive powers and hounding the wrong people

By Patrick Cockburn (Contd.)

from rivals. Power delegated to them because of a single crime is seldom reclaimed.

The World Trade Center's destruction on 9/11 is the obvious example of an event used to justify the expansion of security agencies. But for a compendium of these events it is well worth reading the newly published The Annals of Unsolved Crime by Edward Jay Epstein, one of the greatest American investigative journalists, a compelling and informed account of how crime and the needs of power and politics intertwine.

Epstein recalls that the kidnapping of the child of the aviator Charles Lindbergh in 1932 enabled J Edgar Hoover "to expand the FBI, which he had headed since its creation, into a national police agency". Police arrested a carpenter called Bruno Hauptman, who had part of the ransom paid by Lindbergh in his garage. He was found guilty of kidnapping and murder. It is likely he was a member of a gang of swindlers cashing in on a crime they had not committed themselves. No fingerprints, fibres, footprints or witnesses ever showed that Hauptman was in the Lindbergh house. Executed in 1936, he rejected an offer of $50,000 from Hearst newspapers, and another by the governor of New Jersey, to commute his death sentence in return for a confession.

Criminal investigations have become far more sophisticated. But Epstein's account of the FBI's pursuit of the person responsible for the anthrax attacks in 2001 suggests that this investigation was even more perverted by the need to show results. The anthrax, of a particularly virulent strain, was sent by letter and killed five people. Having decided early on that the sender was a "lone wolf" American scientist, the FBI pursued several scientists who seemed to fit this profile. One, Dr Steven Hatfill, was so closely investigated (the press alerted to the FBI's suspicions), that he lost his job, contracts, and many associates. He sued the government, a federal judge expressing outrage that the FBI had pursued him for five years without "a scintilla of evidence". He was awarded $5.8m in compensation.

Undaunted, the FBI went after another scientist, Dr Bruce Ivins, offering $2.5m to his twins to testify against their father. Under pressure, bankrupted by legal fees, drinking heavily and having suffered a mental breakdown, Dr Ivins killed himself in 2008. A week later, the FBI declared Dr Ivins the sole perpetrator of the anthrax attacks, though its gargantuan investigation had turned up nothing conclusive against him and its presumption of his guilt depended on dubious scientific evidence.

The case remains a telling example of how security agencies adopt faulty preconceptions, which become too embedded within the institution to be abandoned without loss of credibility and prestige. The worst damage stemming from the Boston bombing will be if the security behemoths created or enlarged after 9/11, whose effectiveness is in doubt, were rejuvenated and expanded.
LLOL LLOL

Wiley Park, Australia

#44088 Dec 17, 2013
These so called christian are getting ready to celebrate yet another pagan ritual called "CHRISTMAS"

I wonder where they got this ritual from? the symbolism is very interesting

"A bearded pedophile who makes kids sit on his lap and is riding a sledge with a flying reindeer and snow clad background" ever wonder which part of Arabia our blessed prophet jesus found a reindeer, a sledge, snow?LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, LLOL,LLOL

No wonder christian priests molest kids they think its part of religion and yet these pagans turn away from the final testament of divine religions the blessed religion of Islam. I invite you pagans to come to the true religion
of ISLAM.

You should start by 30 days of praying for muslims? then start practising the real religion. the undistorted truth?

No trinity.
No guilty jesus.
No pedo fathers, no Lesbo mums, no gay dads…LLOL
No corrupt churches.
No sledge riding bearded pedo father Christmas
No Ho, Ho, Ho…………………..LLOL,LLOL,LLOL
Try it !
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#44090 Dec 17, 2013
LLOL LLOL wrote:
These so called christian are getting ready to celebrate yet another pagan ritual called "CHRISTMAS"
I wonder where they got this ritual from? the symbolism is very interesting
"A bearded pedophile who makes kids sit on his lap and is riding a sledge with a flying reindeer and snow clad background" ever wonder which part of Arabia our blessed prophet jesus found a reindeer, a sledge, snow?LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, LLOL,LLOL
No wonder christian priests molest kids they think its part of religion and yet these pagans turn away from the final testament of divine religions the blessed religion of Islam. I invite you pagans to come to the true religion
of ISLAM.
You should start by 30 days of praying for muslims? then start practising the real religion. the undistorted truth?
No trinity.
No guilty jesus.
No pedo fathers, no Lesbo mums, no gay dads…LLOL
No corrupt churches.
No sledge riding bearded pedo father Christmas
No Ho, Ho, Ho…………………..LLOL,LLOL,LLOL
Try it !
Quran asks us to preach its message with Wisdom and beautiful preaching.

I find BOTH of them are missing in your post.

You should try to tell the truth, but not hurt sentiments of people following another way.

Control your emotions while criticizing others.
Muq will burn

Rhodes, Australia

#44091 Dec 18, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Quran asks us to preach its message with Wisdom and beautiful preaching.
I find BOTH of them are missing in your post.
You should try to tell the truth, but not hurt sentiments of people following another way.
Control your emotions while criticizing others.
And so says our little black pot to his mate the kettle as they warm on the stove fire of Islam.
So MUQ - any tips of the Islamic death syndicate you will contribute to at friday prayers ?
Perhaps the Saudi & Wahhabi funded terrorism
in Syria ?
Where Saudi mosque contribution funded terrorists using poison gas that killed over a thousand moderate Sunni so that could be blamed on Assad. Except yesterdays UN report showed it all traces back to Saudi & Bandar & the muslim community funding these murderers.
Over 250,000 Syrians now killed because of people like you that fund this fanaticism,
There's a 'consideration' to prompt a good hard look at yourself and why you promote pagan evil in the name of islam.
You hide in your cloak of evil and you hide behind your taqiyya.
But god watches you.
He isn't anyone you can know.
He will never be inside you.
But he will judge you.
He will punish the followers of Baal.
He will have you flayed alive & then thrown in the pit. Where you and all other Muslims will broil
and scream out in eternal & infinite agony.
This is gods message to you.
Jake

Coorparoo, Australia

#44092 Dec 18, 2013
LLOL LLOL wrote:
These so called christian are getting ready to celebrate yet another pagan ritual called "CHRISTMAS"
I wonder where they got this ritual from? the symbolism is very interesting
"A bearded pedophile who makes kids sit on his lap and is riding a sledge with a flying reindeer and snow clad background" ever wonder which part of Arabia our blessed prophet jesus found a reindeer, a sledge, snow?LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, LLOL,LLOL
No wonder christian priests molest kids they think its part of religion and yet these pagans turn away from the final testament of divine religions the blessed religion of Islam. I invite you pagans to come to the true religion
of ISLAM.
You should start by 30 days of praying for muslims? then start practising the real religion. the undistorted truth?
No trinity.
No guilty jesus.
No pedo fathers, no Lesbo mums, no gay dads…LLOL
No corrupt churches.
No sledge riding bearded pedo father Christmas
No Ho, Ho, Ho…………………..LLOL,LLOL,LLOL
Try it !
Can follow the peadophile moho and sleep with nine yr old kids ? if I had a sadistic pedophilic desire then I would join islam where all my sins would be welcomed and condones.
Jake

Coorparoo, Australia

#44093 Dec 18, 2013
MUQ, islam has not contributed anything positive to Australian society.

islam and is muslim leaders have only insulted the Australian people and alienated there fellow muslims within our society.

For the first time in Australian society we have had muslim marches with there children holding signs calling for the decapitation of non-muslims.

In Australias history we`ve never had such hatred marchin in our streets, in fact if Australia never allow islam into its country we`d never have seen such things in our streets.

We even have a middle eastern crime unit specificly formed to police muslim communities in our country.

We don't have a crime squads policing other religious communities in our society.......why is that ?

With all the evil in the world the last thing we need is islam to come here and bring all the evil its infested with in Islamic countries to our shores.
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#44095 Dec 18, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Quran asks us to preach its message with Wisdom and beautiful preaching.
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It's pretty hard to see how your preaching of wisdom and beautiful preaching is successful when all you see is Muslims killing other Muslims and killing other people as well.

Unless of course you consider the killing of people beautiful!!

No matter how you look at it, from a Christian perspective, it looks pretty awful !!

Sure glad we don't allow too many Muslims into N America.
Muslims are already double the number of religious prisoners in our prisons on a per capita basis.
Keep em out!!
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#44096 Dec 18, 2013
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Pit Of Hopelessness: Guantanamo Grows Tense, Inmates Suicidal

By RT

April 22, 2013 "Information Clearing House" -"RT" - At least two Guantanamo Bay detainees have attempted suicide since the confrontation between guards and prisoners in February that brought about the ongoing hunger strike, AP reports.


A team of journalists, including from AP, have been allowed into the facilities. They testify the atmosphere has grown tense and heavy in the prison where 166 men are indefinitely held with little to no hope of release. Still they were not allowed to gather more information on the two suicide attempts.

At least seven people have managed to kill themselves since Guantanamo was first set up in 2002.

The fact that Gitmo has turned into a pit of hopelessness is confirmed both by the detainee's lawyers and some US officials. While the number of officially-acknowledged hunger strikers is growing, most prisoners are isolated from each other and the world.

"How can the military, even the military, hope to maintain discipline over a prison camp where there is absolutely no hope for those men confined here?" Lieutenant Commander Kevin Bogucki, a US Navy Military Lawyer who was visiting his clients at the base this week, told AP.

"Until such time as our government starts to do the right thing in connection with Guantanamo Bay, the frustration is only going to continue to build and I can't imagine that the outcome will be good," he added.

Out of 86 Guantanamo prisoners cleared for the release, the overwhelming majority - 56 of them - are Yemeni nationals, RT's Gayane Chichakyan points out. However, three years ago the US suspended all transfers of detainees to Yemen. It may well mean dying in Guantanamo, Omar Farah, petitioner for the Center of Constitutional Rights, believes.

"Our clients are coming to grips with the cold fact: they may well die in Guantanamo not because the state is unable to transfer them, but because it's unwilling to do so. The transfer restrictions are difficult, for example, they would require the secretary of defense to personally certify that a receiving state are taking steps to ensure that a prisoner can never threaten the United States in the future, whatever threat it might mean in that context. Obviously no state can guarantee that a future event will or will not occur, but that was the point - to discourage transfers from Guantanamo," Farah said.

US officials say there is no reason to lose hope, as they are working to make transfers happen. However, this pledge lacks action.

"The indefinite detention that they're asking for or are justifying is under the laws of war," Kristina Kuskey, petitioner for Physicians for Human Rights said. "In US minds that war ends at the end of hostilities. Against who? Al-Qaeda and associative forces. What does that mean? That's indefinite! That is the epitome of indefinite."

US military has acknowledged 84 prisoners have currently joined the hunger strike, 16 of them are being force-fed, while five have been hospitalized. The strike started early in February over guards' alleged interference with the inmates' private belongings, raising anger over 'mishandling' of Korans. No efforts on the part of the US military authorities to stop the strike have so far been successful.

Multiple human rights and medical associations have condemned force-feeding, the UN Human Rights commission even labeling the practice of force feeding a form of torture.

See also

Over Half the Prisoners at Guantanamo Are Now on a Hunger Strike: The latest report from United States officials puts the number of inmates on hunger strike at 84 — there are 166 total inmates at Guantanamo — with at least 17 of them being force fed.

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Terrorism Discussions

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News Bin Laden Reportedly Calls Obama 'Powerless' (Sep '09) Tue Geezer files 29
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