Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46759 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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Hey Muq

Sydney, Australia

#43996 Dec 7, 2013
What a horrible muslim fear driven society you lot have created in the middle east. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-05/twenty-... Great example for young peoples you fcuking fools.!!! http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/5139094-3x2-...
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Sydney, Australia

#43997 Dec 7, 2013
llol llol llol wrote:
<quoted text>
This is my mother,
and this is my father and sister http://www.youtube.com/watch... and this is me http://www.youtube.com/watch... , Merry Christmas.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#43998 Dec 7, 2013
Serpent wrote:
<quoted text>
MUQ is as dumb as a fence post!!!
There is one thing about dumb people, they never believe they are dumb, they think they know everything.
Does that include you with us ?
Confused nurse

Sydney, Australia

#43999 Dec 7, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
RIP Nelson Mandela
Mandela was branded a terrorist buy USA........

WASHINGTON: In 2008, just before his 90th birthday, the United States gave Nelson Mandela a special present, striking him from a decades-old terror watch list and ending what US officials called “a rather embarrassing matter”.

By then the anti-apartheid icon had long left behind the jail cells where he was incarcerated for 27 years, and was already enjoying retirement and his status as one of the most revered statesmen of the 20th century after becoming South Africa’s first black president.

In past years, US officials have beaten a path to his door in his family village hoping some of his almost saint-like aura would rub off on them.

On Thursday, President Barack Obama hailed him as belonging “to the ages” and ordered that flags on US government buildings be flown at half-mast — a rare tribute to a foreign leader.

Yet decades ago many in America did not share in the adulation of Mandela and his African National Congress (ANC), which had been billed a terrorist organisation by both South Africa and the United States. His severest right-wing critics painted him as an unrepentant terrorist and a communist sympathiser.

It was even reported that the CIA had helped engineer Mandela’s 1962 arrest when an agent inside the ANC supplied South African security officials with a tip-off to track him down.

In the 1980s, however, late Democratic US senator Ted Kennedy drafted legislation with senator Lowell Weicker that would eventually become one of the global catalysts leading to the collapse of the apartheid system.

President Ronald Reagan sought to bury their 1986 anti-apartheid bill aiming to impose economic sanctions on South Africa by imposing his veto, saying he believed it would only lead to more violence and repression for black South Africans.

But for the first and only time that century, Congress rebelled and overrode Reagan’s veto on a foreign policy issue, passing legislation that slapped sanctions on Pretoria, snapped direct air links and cut vital aid.

Some observers maintain that the story of Mandela’s redemption and the undeniable justness of his cause hold unique lessons for Washington as it grapples with other flagrant abuses of human rights by repressive regimes around the world.

Brian Dooley, who worked with Kennedy on the game-changing legislation and is now a director with Human Rights First, chafes at the rationale that the US pursues “constructive engagement” with autocratic regimes for the greater good and to ensure security interests.
Confused nurse

Sydney, Australia

#44000 Dec 7, 2013
The justifications for propping up the apartheid regime are now almost the same as we hear when we talk about why isn’t the US more robust in taking on human rights violations in Saudi Arabia or Bahrain or various other parts of the world,” Dooley said.

“Forget the morality if you like for a second, and look at just the national interest, the self-interest. Standing with the bad guys not only looks bad — it is bad. And eventually they fall, and eventually there is dreadful resentment.”

The lessons of the apartheid era are still applicable today, Dooley says, as “only the fact that Congress overrode the veto saved the US reputation”.

Until five years ago, Mandela and other members of the ANC remained on the US terror watch list because of their armed struggle against the apartheid regime, which yielded to majority rule in the mid-1990s.

The designation meant that the US State Department had to issue them with a waiver to enter the country for meetings such as the UN General Assembly, something former secretary of state Condoleezza Rice said she found “embarrassing”.

When Mandela was finally removed from the list in 2008, then senator and current Secretary of State John Kerry, said:“He had no place on our government’s terror watch list, and I’m pleased to see this bill finally become law.”

In a televised address from the White House on Thursday, Obama said Mandela was “a man who took history in his hands and bent the arc of the moral universe towards justice”.

“A free South Africa, at peace with itself, that’s an example to the world, and that’s Madiba’s legacy to the nation that he loved,“ Obama said, referring to Mandela by his clan name.

J. Peter Pham, director of the Africa Centre at the Atlantic Council, called Mandela “one of the rare international statesmen that captured the imagination of Americans across the political spectrum”.

“Even those who are not normally interested in Africa found him a very compelling individual,” said Pham.—AFP
Justice Light

Ferntree Gully, Australia

#44001 Dec 7, 2013
llol llol llol wrote:
<quoted text>This is my mother, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Yt3PEcYTF8AXX and this is my father and sister http://www.youtube.com/watch... and this is me http://www.youtube.com/watch... , Merry Christmas.
AHH HAAAAAA

You are a pig i knew it!!! this must be the reason why muslims are against eating porks?
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#44002 Dec 8, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

US Envoy to UN Says Defending Israel Large Part of Her Job
Susan Rice calls safeguarding Israel’s security and legitimacy ‘crucial work’
By Times Of Israel

April 23, 2013 "Information Clearing House" -"Times Of Israel" - WASHINGTON (JTA)— Susan Rice said a major part of her work as US ambassador to the United Nations is defending Israel’s legitimacy.

“It’s a huge part of my work to the United Nations,” Rice said Sunday evening, launching this year’s Consultation on Conscience, an event for Reform movement social activists organized by the Religious Action Center.

She likened the volume of work to her efforts to coordinate Syria’s isolation and to contain violence and abuses in Sudan.

She said she often works in “lockstep” with the Israeli delegation.

“We will not rest in the crucial work of defending Israel’s security and legitimacy every day at the United Nations,” Rice said.

She said Israel’s success at the United Nations often is not reported, for instance in joining the boards of the UN Development Program and UNICEF, and in advancing development initiatives.

Rice also discussed the US role in brokering the birth of South Sudan and in monitoring continuing abuses in Sudan, and in attempting to rally other nations to isolate the Assad regime in Syria as a means of stemming the carnage in that country.

The Consultation on Conscience features workshops on social action and meetings with government figures.

In addition to Rice, this year’s attendees heard from Gene Sperling, director of the National Economic Council, and will meet Tuesday with top Republican and Democratic lawmakers in Congress.

Featured topics this year include combating genocide, immigration reform, rights of workers and gay rights.
Rosa Winkel

Australia

#44003 Dec 8, 2013
Confused nurse wrote:
<quoted text>
Mandela was branded a terrorist buy USA........
WASHINGTON: In 2008, just before his 90th birthday, the United States gave Nelson Mandela a special present, striking him from a decades-old terror watch list and ending what US officials called “a rather embarrassing matter”.
By then the anti-apartheid icon had long left behind the jail cells where he was incarcerated for 27 years, and was already enjoying retirement and his status as one of the most revered statesmen of the 20th century after becoming South Africa’s first black president.
In past years, US officials have beaten a path to his door in his family village hoping some of his almost saint-like aura would rub off on them.
On Thursday, President Barack Obama hailed him as belonging “to the ages” and ordered that flags on US government buildings be flown at half-mast — a rare tribute to a foreign leader.
Yet decades ago many in America did not share in the adulation of Mandela and his African National Congress (ANC), which had been billed a terrorist organisation by both South Africa and the United States. His severest right-wing critics painted him as an unrepentant terrorist and a communist sympathiser.
It was even reported that the CIA had helped engineer Mandela’s 1962 arrest when an agent inside the ANC supplied South African security officials with a tip-off to track him down.
In the 1980s, however, late Democratic US senator Ted Kennedy drafted legislation with senator Lowell Weicker that would eventually become one of the global catalysts leading to the collapse of the apartheid system.
President Ronald Reagan sought to bury their 1986 anti-apartheid bill aiming to impose economic sanctions on South Africa by imposing his veto, saying he believed it would only lead to more violence and repression for black South Africans.
But for the first and only time that century, Congress rebelled and overrode Reagan’s veto on a foreign policy issue, passing legislation that slapped sanctions on Pretoria, snapped direct air links and cut vital aid.
Some observers maintain that the story of Mandela’s redemption and the undeniable justness of his cause hold unique lessons for Washington as it grapples with other flagrant abuses of human rights by repressive regimes around the world.
Brian Dooley, who worked with Kennedy on the game-changing legislation and is now a director with Human Rights First, chafes at the rationale that the US pursues “constructive engagement” with autocratic regimes for the greater good and to ensure security interests.
In the old days, a euphemism for terrorist was often "freedom fighter". This is how I see the late great Madiba, to use his African name.

This all changed because of a bunch of al Quaida fanatics, on a date we all know well.
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Kellyville, Australia

#44004 Dec 8, 2013
MUQ
http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2013/12/06/ne...
You and your followers are fcuked
http://tribune.com.pk/story/640832/mullah-faz...
These are not the faces men fighting for the Lord !!

You sew the seed now reap your Harvest.



Losers
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#44005 Dec 8, 2013
llol llol llol wrote:
MUQ
http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2013/12/06/ne...
You and your followers are fcuked
http://tribune.com.pk/story/640832/mullah-faz...
These are not the faces men fighting for the Lord !!
You sew the seed now reap your Harvest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =uHNxEVY9v98XX
Losers
Thanks for your prediction.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#44006 Dec 8, 2013
Hello MUQ how will Islam overcome the bogans of Australia ?
llol llol llol

Toukley, Australia

#44007 Dec 8, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for your prediction.
http://www.pakistantoday.com.p k/2012/03/16/uncategorized/mil itants-blew-up-school-in-swabi MUQ WAKE UP..........

You sew the seed now reap your Harvest.
Darren

Sydney, Australia

#44008 Dec 8, 2013
Hey I just had one of these and they are delicious ,

http://www.kfc.com.au/menu/index.asp#Original...
Phineas

Sydney, Australia

#44009 Dec 8, 2013
Treason againt nature

Thornhill, Canada

#44010 Dec 8, 2013
Islam is a real danger to any civilized society
Islam Origins Jonah

Sydney, Australia

#44011 Dec 8, 2013
The story of Jonah is a confusing one.
He had delusions.
He imagined god told him to warn the people of niveneh to change their ways or be destroyed.
So Jonah ran away and got on boat. Some waves came & Jonah said it was his fault so they threw him off. He then lived in the belly of a fish.
Finally ending up at niveneh he imagined god had sent him a nice bush for shade. But then god sent a worm that are the bush. The end.
Its a metaphor of a Jew who defies god, achieves nothing, and sees god in himself, the fish, the tree & the worm etc.
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Islam copies Jonah as Yunus & leaves bits out and worships him as a prophet.
But in Islam they have absolutely no idea why he is a prophet or the metaphor, it fails to translate.
And this is the general tale of Islam.
Like an Arab borrowing a Jews jacket & pair of shoes..... Islam completely fails 'to wear' or act out the parts correctly.
All of the old testament copied into the Quran becomes a mad Arabic mash up of contradiction & literalism, heresy & translation failure.
No wonder the Jews got so frustrated with their pagan variations like ishmaelism & abandoned them as religious dead ends.
And no wonder Muhammad gave up on islam and tried to steer it back to Judaism :(why he was in fact murdered by Abu Bakr via Aisha).
And why The Quran is a mess : written by Uthman the Jew ( killed and buried as a Jew non Muslim) some 12 years after muhammad was murdered .. its a laughable mess of confection & errors.
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Because Jonah is intended to be a Jewish comical figure.. aka the marx brothers, or say life of Brian, a gentle poking of fun at such nutters).
Ask a Muslim why Jonah is a muslim prophet...
They will have no idea.
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The Jews create in jest - a cartoon like figure of caricature and lampoon it :: and it becomes one of the senior prophets of Islam !!
How the Jews must laugh at Islam.
LLOL llol

Wiley Park, Australia

#44012 Dec 8, 2013
White trash business as usual Bogan values…..LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,
Secluded hills hid a family's darkest secret-INCEST
Anne Davies
This is a distressing story. But it deserves to be told because it reveals how several generations of children have fallen through the cracks of Australia's child protection system.
Children removed after generations of incest
In July last year, locals in a quiet valley in south-western NSW were startled to see three police four-wheel drives, a police bus and an ambulance bouncing up an old stock route towards a remote timbered block, tucked away from the road.
The day they arrived it looked like the circus had come to town.
Police and child protection officers left with 12 children under the age of 16 in what is shaping as one of the most serious child abuse cases in Australia.
The children were malnourished, filthy, could barely talk, had appalling hygiene and had been living without electricity and running water. What emerged is a truly horrific case of child sex abuse and intergenerational incest. As the royal commission on child abuse within institutions gets under way, the events at this farm highlight what many say is a far more serious threat to children: sexual abuse within the family.
It also raises serious questions about how, Australia-wide, authorities failed three generations of victims, many of whom have now turned into perpetrators.
In September this year, the NSW Children's Court decided to permanently remove the children and in a rare move, published its decision because it laid new ground on when children could be permanently removed. In Victoria, there was another order two months ago to remove children from another branch of the family.
Apprehended violence orders have been taken out to stop the parents approaching the children, who have been placed in homes and in foster care. Next week one mother will face charges relating to an attempt to remove a child from care.
All names in this article have been changed due to legal requirements not to identify child victims.
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Just a short drive from Canberra is a small town in prime merino country. The wide main street and substantial buildings point to an era when Australia rode on the sheep's back. There are still big properties, but up in the valleys that stretch out from the town are smaller farms, used increasingly as hobby farms or boltholes for those on the fringes of society. The Colt family were in the second category. There is no suggestion they were part of a religious cult. They seemed motivated by a desire to keep below the radar of the law.
Two sisters paid a relatively modest sum for the land from a local farmer in 2009 and soon the rest of the family followed from interstate.''The day they arrived it looked like the circus had come to town,'' says a neighbour.''Caravans, cars filled with kids.''
Soon after the Colts arrived they came to the attention of police and the education department for failing to send their children to school. The education authorities were unable to find the farm because it was so hidden, but a local policeman visited early on and told the mothers they had to send their children to school.
The younger ones were enrolled in a small bush school with remedial teachers, while the older children were enrolled at the high school.
Neighbours realised there was a large group living on the land, but the Colts kept to themselves and returned stock that strayed onto their property.
''Apart from the noise of the chainsaws, they didn't really worry us,'' a neighbour says.''I knew there were children living up there, but I never heard any noise of laughing or playing.'' The family were seen in town shopping and two of the men worked for the local shire. The men also chopped down trees and sold it for firewood. The family also received money from Centrelink.
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Wiley Park, Australia

#44013 Dec 8, 2013
But all was not well. The children's attendance at school was patchy, several of them were rake thin and wore dirty clothes. Soon risk-of-harm reports began coming in to the Department of Family and Community Services from teachers and the local bus driver.

But it took two years before the department acted. Finally, in June 2012, the authorities visited and were met with scenes of harrowing deprivation. One police officer told colleagues she would never get over what she saw that day.

Proceedings before the Children's Court heard the family was living without permanent electricity or running water. There were no toilets and they washed in a tub. One caravan housing one group had dirt, cigarette butts and rubbish on the floor. Three children's beds were dirty and unmade, cooking facilities were very dirty and a gas barbecue was used for heating inside the confined space.

The second caravan had dirt on all surfaces and two broken windows.

A third mother slept in a tent with her daughters, while the sons slept in another. There were exposed electricity wires, chainsaws without covers, and piles of rubbish, the reports said.

The children were observed to be neglected in significant ways. Most were far behind their peers in terms of educational development and some had no formal schooling at all. Some were developmentally delayed and others showed signs of more permanent intellectual impairment.

Several of the children were unable to speak intelligibly. Their dental health was appalling and several did not know how to use a toothbrush.

The family were given a timeframe to fix up the property, but in the meantime more information emerged and the director-general of FACS decided the children needed to be removed immediately.

Since taking the children away, the authorities have uncovered an even darker picture: of intergenerational incest and child sex abuse involving children as young as five.

Away from their families, the children began exhibiting inappropriate sexual behaviour and told carers they had engaged in sexual acts with each other and watched adults having sex on the farm.

The department ordered genetic testing to clarify the status of the children. The tests showed that all but one child of the 12 removed had parents who were related or closely related.

The four mothers, Rhonda, Betty, Martha and Raylene, have disputed the genetic testing, saying it is wrong and offering the names of alternate fathers. All were either dead or unable to be located.

Older members of the family have not been tested but the judge in the Children's Court made several references to ''intergenerational incest''.

According to the court record, the Colt grandparents, Tim and June married in New Zealand in 1966 and came first to South Australia during the 1970s with their six children. They moved to Victoria, South Australia again, then Western Australia, before ending up in NSW. There is evidence the abuse began back then and possibly even earlier.

Dwayne, one of Betty's sons, told his carers he and his siblings were told never to tell anyone that their father was in fact his grandfather, Tim, because his mother, Betty, would be sent to jail because she had started having sex with him when she was 12.

Betty has had 13 children. The testing of the five children under 16 showed that the 15 year old had closely related parents, possibly a father/daughter, while the other four had related parents.

But the incest has not stopped at one generation.

Tammy, Betty's third child, aged 27, has come to the attention of authorities in Victoria after one of her children died at Canberra Hospital of a rare genetic disease, Zellweger syndrome, and she and Betty failed to attend an appointment to discuss the role close consanguinity between parents can play.
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Wiley Park, Australia

#44014 Dec 8, 2013
Her two remaining children were taken into care in February this year. At a hearing to take out an apprehended violence order against her partner, Derek Colt - who had threatened ''to kill her if he couldn't have her''- she told a social worker Derek was in fact her younger brother and father of her children.

She also revealed she had been abused within the Colt family from the age of 12 when other family members began having sex with her, including her brothers and cousins. She said the same happened to other girls on the farm and that her mother, Betty encouraged this activity.

When the girls fell pregnant, they were not permitted to see a doctor in case someone discovered what was happening. Sometimes there were miscarriages but Tammy managed to secretly put herself on the pill from the age of 16.

The big question to be answered is how these children - and their mothers before them - managed to fall through the child protection net in a civilised country such as Australia.

Part of the problem is that child protection is a state-based responsibility. When the Colts came to the attention of authorities the family simply snatched the kids and moved states, choosing isolated places to resettle.

But against that background there is evidence the Colts were registered for federal benefits, raising questions about how state authorities were unable to follow up on these vulnerable children.

In the case of the NSW authorities, the Department of Community Services received seven risk-of-significant-harm reports in the two years before July 2012 when the children were removed. Asked why it had failed to act, the department refused to provide any detailed response as the matter is ongoing.

''The children are safe and living with foster carers,'' the department said.''Like many child-protection matters, this case involves a number of complexities and Community Services caseworkers are working closely with FACS' partners in Health, Education and in the non-government sector to provide ongoing support and assistance to the children.''

The mothers have contested their children's removal in the courts and continue to agitate for their return.

But the Children's Court judge found they had not come to terms with ''their own traumatic past'' and until they acknowledged the history of incest in the family they would be unable to engage in therapy and be protective parents.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/secluded-hills-hid-...
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#44015 Dec 8, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
Hello MUQ how will Islam overcome the bogans of Australia ?
Wait and see the miracle happen.

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