Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46752 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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Jake

Coorparoo, Australia

#43733 Nov 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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When you discuss about any religion, you should see its entire history.
When it comes to committing atrocities, Budhists are no better than any other religion.
That was my point, what Japan is doing now is because its teeth have been taken out by the Victorious forces.
Is that what it will take for Islamic nations to stop there atrocities ? to have there teeth taken out by other nations?

If islam is so superior to other religions why cant it take the moral high ground by stopping the atrocities themselves.....is it because the majority of muslims are so consumed by hatred that they cant ?

Where do they get this hatred from ? the Koran that's where
Jake

Coorparoo, Australia

#43734 Nov 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus by no means was Last and Final prophet. He expressively told about a Comforter that will come after him and lead human kind into all truth.
He gave a test to distinguish between a True prophet of God and a false prophet.
You are mistaken to say that he was last prophet and you want to paste that lie on Jesus himself?
No MUQ you are wrong, it was foretold long before Jesus was born from the angels themselves that the son of man would be bron and that the salvation of mankind would come with him.

` No man will enter the kingdom of heavan without accepting the lord Jesus Christ as there lord and savour`

For you to try and pervert gods message and turn people from the one true path and tell them to follow mohummed is a cardinal sin of which you`ll pay dearly when the time comes.

Search deep within yourself, you know this to be true, mohummed wasn't even a good roll model for mankind to follow, watching your followers world wide is testament to that.

Jesus final message to mankind was to never kill, steal or lie yet your very Koran allows this in cercumstances so long as it furthers the islami movment.

Jesus would never let any of his followers comit any sin in the name of furthering his message......ever
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#43735 Nov 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>I agree our prophet was a pedophile.
Yes, everybody knows that, but are you also a pedophile?

Why do Muslim men feel the need to marry or have sex with nine year old girls! Are they doing this because their prophet did it ?
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#43736 Nov 13, 2013
Terry wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't Listen to these people here.. They have no idea of whats happening around the globe. They will know only the news they hear in their own country, if they travel to other parts of the world then they may find out whats reality is.
A frog in a well cannot conceive of the ocean.
Honestly these are teenagers here, don't take their comments seriously, they have no idea about whats happening in the world. Every religion in the world was found for bringing peace.
They have no idea that Arabic word "Allah" is "God" in english.
Anyone who really respects his own religion, he will respect other religion too. Hope everyone Love each other..
Thank you Mr. Terry

But get ready to face abuses and insults, that is the "Normal lot" for people who speak truth and want to bridge the gap on this and every thread.

These people like and there should always be unrest and hate and hatred between different religious groups.

And most of the are Afraid of Islam and its teachings and they think that best Idea of defense is to attack Islam by any means foul or fair.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#43737 Nov 13, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

When Israeli Denial of Palestinian Existence Becomes Genocidal

By Ilan Pappe (Contd.)

This denial was there at the beginning of Zionism and led to the ethnic cleansing in 1948. And it is there today, which may lead to similar disasters in the future — unless stopped immediately.

Cognitive dissonance

The perpetrators of the 1948 ethnic cleansing were the Zionist settlers who came to Palestine, like Polish-born Shimon Peres, before the Second World War. They denied the existence of the native people they encountered, who lived there for hundreds of years, if not more. The Zionists did not possess the power at the time to settle the cognitive dissonance they experienced: their conviction that the land was people-less despite the presence of so many native people there.

They almost solved the dissonance when they expelled as many Palestinians as they could in 1948 — and were left with only a small minority of Palestinians within the Jewish state.

But the Zionist greed for territory and ideological conviction that much more of Palestine was needed in order to have a viable Jewish state led to constant contemplations and eventually operations to enlarge the state.

With the creation of “Greater Israel” following the conquest of the West Bank and Gaza in 1967, the dissonance returned. The solution however could not easily be resolved this time by the force of ethnic cleansing. The number of Palestinians was larger, their assertiveness and liberation movement were forcefully present on the ground, and even the most cynical and traditionally pro-Israel actors on the international scene recognized their existence.

The dissonance was resolved in a different way. The land without people was any part of the greater Israel the state wished to Judaize in the pre-1967 boundaries or annex from the territories occupied in 1967. The land with people was in the Gaza Strip and some enclaves in the West Bank as well as inside Israel. The land without people is destined to expand incrementally in the future, causing the number of people to shrink as a direct consequence of this encroachment.

MUQ lost

Sydney, Australia

#43738 Nov 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you Mr. Terry
But get ready to face abuses and insults, that is the "Normal lot" for people who speak truth and want to bridge the gap on this and every thread.
These people like and there should always be unrest and hate and hatred between different religious groups.
And most of the are Afraid of Islam and its teachings and they think that best Idea of
defense is to attack Islam by any means foul or fair.
No one is afraid of islam or you MUQ.
The consistent response on this thread is that we feel sorry for you and try to enlighten you to your false & misplaced beliefs.
Facts are :
You are a prisoner of islam.
Your 'allah' originates from BAAL.
You worship & fetish hubal, a black stone, the kaaba and other objects not of god.
You practice Tasweer, Shirk, Kitman & Taqiyya (badly) so your not even a good Muslim.
You dont 'know' God & as a worshipper of BAAL ~ Allah you can never receive God or have in you as his holy spirit.
You are dammed to go to hell by Allah.
Islam tells you this.
(and don't believe the 12th century lie by ibn tamiyya that as a 'jihad martyr' you can bypass Allah~Baal's damnation of all Muslims to hell - and some how go to an arab allah heaven - this is a lie told by Muslims to their own and all the jizya slaves such as yourself).
So net : we genuinely feel very sorry for you.
Words of justice

Ferntree Gully, Australia

#43739 Nov 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...
When Israeli Denial of Palestinian Existence Becomes Genocidal
By Ilan Pappe (Contd.)
This denial was there at the beginning of Zionism and led to the ethnic cleansing in 1948. And it is there today, which may lead to similar disasters in the future — unless stopped immediately.
Cognitive dissonance
The perpetrators of the 1948 ethnic cleansing were the Zionist settlers who came to Palestine, like Polish-born Shimon Peres, before the Second World War. They denied the existence of the native people they encountered, who lived there for hundreds of years, if not more. The Zionists did not possess the power at the time to settle the cognitive dissonance they experienced: their conviction that the land was people-less despite the presence of so many native people there.
They almost solved the dissonance when they expelled as many Palestinians as they could in 1948 — and were left with only a small minority of Palestinians within the Jewish state.
But the Zionist greed for territory and ideological conviction that much more of Palestine was needed in order to have a viable Jewish state led to constant contemplations and eventually operations to enlarge the state.
With the creation of “Greater Israel” following the conquest of the West Bank and Gaza in 1967, the dissonance returned. The solution however could not easily be resolved this time by the force of ethnic cleansing. The number of Palestinians was larger, their assertiveness and liberation movement were forcefully present on the ground, and even the most cynical and traditionally pro-Israel actors on the international scene recognized their existence.
The dissonance was resolved in a different way. The land without people was any part of the greater Israel the state wished to Judaize in the pre-1967 boundaries or annex from the territories occupied in 1967. The land with people was in the Gaza Strip and some enclaves in the West Bank as well as inside Israel. The land without people is destined to expand incrementally in the future, causing the number of people to shrink as a direct consequence of this encroachment.
Oh...and muslims are innocent little sheeps?

Muslim and jews get out!!!
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#43740 Nov 13, 2013
Jake wrote:
1. Is that what it will take for Islamic nations to stop there atrocities ? to have there teeth taken out by other nations?

If islam is so superior to other religions why cant it take the moral high ground by stopping the atrocities themselves.....is it because the majority of muslims are so consumed by hatred that they cant ?

Where do they get this hatred from ? the Koran that's where

2. No MUQ you are wrong, it was foretold long before Jesus was born from the angels themselves that the son of man would be bron and that the salvation of mankind would come with him.

` No man will enter the kingdom of heaven without accepting the lord Jesus Christ as there lord and savour`

For you to try and pervert gods message and turn people from the one true path and tell them to follow mohummed is a cardinal sin of which you`ll pay dearly when the time comes.

Search deep within yourself, you know this to be true, mohummed wasn't even a good roll model for mankind to follow, watching your followers world wide is testament to that.

Jesus final message to mankind was to never kill, steal or lie yet your very Koran allows this in cercumstances so long as it furthers the islami movment.

Jesus would never let any of his followers comit any sin in the name of furthering his message......ever
Ans.

01. Since it was western people who placed this bully in our midst and it is they who are condoning its every action and supporting in financially, politically and thru military aid, they have prime responsibility for its action.

Islam is superior to other religion thru its teachings, that is why it is spreading in almost every western country , and that is why there is media hype against Islam.

Quran never perpetrates hatred, in fact it asks people of every faith to come and agree on a common platform.

02. It is strange that you have "more believe" in words of other people than Jesus Himself!!

When jesus told clearly that after him, another Comforter shall come, who will guide people into all truth, you should be looking for him.

You have very wrong information about life of our prophet. It would do you a lot of Good, to pick up a Biography of our prophet written by a Muslim and then re-check what you wrote.

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#43741 Nov 14, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. Since it was western people who placed this bully in our midst and it is they who are condoning its every action and supporting in financially, politically and thru military aid, they have prime responsibility for its action.
Islam is superior to other religion thru its teachings, that is why it is spreading in almost every western country , and that is why there is media hype against Islam.
Quran never perpetrates hatred, in fact it asks people of every faith to come and agree on a common platform.
02. It is strange that you have "more believe" in words of other people than Jesus Himself!!
When jesus told clearly that after him, another Comforter shall come, who will guide people into all truth, you should be looking for him.
You have very wrong information about life of our prophet. It would do you a lot of Good, to pick up a Biography of our prophet written by a Muslim and then re-check what you wrote.
Another ill informed and off topic response from MUG.

The only reason Islam appears to be spreading in the world is due to the death, torture, violence, force and intimidation of people who resist it's implementation, by Islamists around the world.

People can read daily about the horrific deaths, bombings and torture that is being inflicted on others by this so called "religion of peace" They also kill infidels whose only crime is that they deny that "allah" is the true god of the world

Everyone can see for themselves the verses in the koran that advocate violence at the following link:

http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Themes/j...

I have already explained what the bible and Jesus taught about the comforter but once again MUG is trying to flog a dead horse by trying to suggest that Muhammad was the comforter. LOL
Terry

Trivandrum, India

#43742 Nov 14, 2013
MUQ lost wrote:
<quoted text>
No one is afraid of islam or you MUQ.
The consistent response on this thread is that we feel sorry for you and try to enlighten you to your false & misplaced beliefs.
Facts are :
You are a prisoner of islam.
Your 'allah' originates from BAAL.
You worship & fetish hubal, a black stone, the kaaba and other objects not of god.
You practice Tasweer, Shirk, Kitman & Taqiyya (badly) so your not even a good Muslim.
You dont 'know' God & as a worshipper of BAAL ~ Allah you can never receive God or have in you as his holy spirit.
You are dammed to go to hell by Allah.
Islam tells you this.
(and don't believe the 12th century lie by ibn tamiyya that as a 'jihad martyr' you can bypass Allah~Baal's damnation of all Muslims to hell - and some how go to an arab allah heaven - this is a lie told by Muslims to their own and all the jizya slaves such as yourself).
So net : we genuinely feel very sorry for you.
You are terribly Misinformed..If you don't respect other religion then you are not a human being at all.. you are the devil worshiper, sorry to put this word but no religion has mentioned to hate other religions. In Christianity there is no place where it is mentioned to hate other religions.

I had a surprise answer from one of my friend with a proof, you want to know a real meaning of "Jihad" ask a real Muslim men in your neighbor he will give you a proof what mentioned in quaran.

Honestly I feel sorry for you.. May god give you the Presence of mind. You want all hatred & Terrorism in the world to be stopped and live in peace, then the only way is to start Loving, respect and stop judging other people.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#43743 Nov 14, 2013
Now our expert on "comforter" has spoken once again.

Any one who has sound mind and reads Jesus' description about Comforter and his qualities, would never even think that Jesus was speaking about some "Spooky Non materialistic body penetrating inside human bodies" to be the Comforter, who will come after jesus and Guide humans into "All Truth".

So far not a single word of what "Holy Ghost taught the Chosen Disciple at the eve of Pentecost" is known to humanity.

If that was what Jesus meant by "Guiding into all truth"....then we should re-think was Jesus speaking to humans or to some other specie.

But to blind people, every thing is dark and they try to catch any thing they can lay their hands on.

The are misled and try to mislead other people by making false forceful statements.

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#43744 Nov 14, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Now our expert on "comforter" has spoken once again.
Any one who has sound mind and reads Jesus' description about Comforter and his qualities, would never even think that Jesus was speaking about some "Spooky Non materialistic body penetrating inside human bodies" to be the Comforter, who will come after jesus and Guide humans into "All Truth".
So far not a single word of what "Holy Ghost taught the Chosen Disciple at the eve of Pentecost" is known to humanity.
If that was what Jesus meant by "Guiding into all truth"....then we should re-think was Jesus speaking to humans or to some other specie.
But to blind people, every thing is dark and they try to catch any thing they can lay their hands on.
The are misled and try to mislead other people by making false forceful statements.
No, they would understand that the comforter was a personification for the spirit and power of God.One question MUG how does Muhammad live in believers??? You're as blind as a bat. The fact that you try and misuse what the bible actually states to support your own false beliefs is pathetic. You use the bible when you think it supports your beliefs but all you are doing is showing what a fool you are. You are the person making false statements about the religion of evil namely Islam. Most people are now awake up to Islam and can see the lies that are being promoted by you and your ilk!!!!!!!!

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#43745 Nov 14, 2013
FOR ANY THAT ARE INTERESTED IN "WHO THE COMFORTER IS":

John 14:16 — And I will ask the Father and He will give you another Comforter to be with you forever - the Spirit of Truth.

The Comforter will be with these disciples forever. Jesus promised the Comforter would be with these disciples forever. Muhammad could not be the Comforter because he wasn't born until over 500 years later - following the deaths of these disciples. He was born around 570 and died around 632 AD.



John 14:17 — But you know him for he lives with you and will be in you.

The Comforter lives with the disciples already now and will later be 'in' them. The Holy Spirit came to the disciples and indwelt them. Muhammad could not be the Comforter because first he wasn't around at the time when Jesus was speaking to his disciples nor second could he ever be in any of the disciples. The Greek word is 'en', and it means 'right inside'. Jesus is saying that the Comforter will be 'right inside' of the disciples.



John 14:26 — The Comforter is specifically described as the Holy Spirit. The Comforter is not a man. Muhammad could not be the Comforter because he was never the Holy Spirit.



John 14:26 — The Comforter will be sent in Jesus' name. The Holy Spirit represented the Lord on earth. No Muslim believes that Muhammad was sent by God in Jesus name. Muhammad did not come in Jesus' name, as the apostle of Jesus, rather he came in his own name with his own questionable “revelations”.



John 14:26 — But the Comforter, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you."

The Comforter will teach these disciples and remind them of what Christ said to them. As the early Christians grew the Holy Spirit taught them. Muhammad is not the Comforter because he never knew the disciples and he didn't teach these disciples, and Muhammad never reminded the disciples of what Christ said.



John 15:26 — When the Comforter comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me.

The Comforter would be sent to these disciples. These disciples received the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost. Muhammad was never sent to these disciples.



John 16:13 — But when he, the Spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all truth.

The Comforter will guide these disciples into all truth. These disciples (and others) grew in the knowledge of God through the revelations from the Holy Spirit. Muhammad never guided these disciples into any truth.



John 16:13 — He will not speak on his own, he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.

The Comforter will speak to these disciples. These disciples grew to know the leading of the Holy Spirit, i.e. they knew His voice. Muhammad never spoke to these disciples.



John 16:14 — He will bring glory to me by taking from what is mine and making it known to you. All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will take from what is mine and make it known to you.

The Comforter will take from Jesus and make it known to the disciples. Muhammad never knew Jesus and never took from Jesus and made it known to anyone.



To be continued

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#43746 Nov 14, 2013
The context of these passages shows clearly that Muhammad could not be the Comforter. Jesus was not speaking of another person to come at a later date. Jesus’ precious final words to His disciples were meant for them. Jesus was not merely preaching a sermon to be analyzed and intellectually talked about through the centuries, rather, He was giving His the disciples with Him there His final commands, love, and encouragement.



Here's a question for you to consider: In Islamic theology, Muhammad rendered Jesus’ message fulfilled or ended because Muhammad brought God’s latest message to the people. Muhammad expected that true believers in God would accept Islam. Therefore, if Jesus was foretelling Muhammad, wouldn’t Jesus be prophesying that his ministry will be rendered void by the Paraclete? Read the context of the passages and decide.



Further, to fulfill exactly what Jesus foretold concerning the Comforter and His relationship with the disciples, the New Testament records the fulfillment of the coming of the Holy Spirit and the disciples receiving Him. The disciples received the Comforter - the Holy Spirit, on the day of Pentecost in Acts 2:3, 4. The Comforter was now “in” the disciples and He remained “in” them from then on and taught them — just as Jesus had said He would.
MUQ bad taqiyya

Australia

#43747 Nov 14, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Islam is superior to other religion thru its teachings,
Quran never perpetrates hatred, in fact it asks people of every faith to come & agree ?
jesus said a Comforter shall come, you have wrong information about life of OUR prophet !!
MUQ - You misquote jesus, his disciples and the new testament, plus you misquote the Quran.
This is bad taqiyya as you easily proven wrong.
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There is no concept of a holy spirit 'living within
you' as part of islam.
It is why the Bakri murdered Muhammad, Ali &
Uthman. A fact you never deny & for which there
is extensive facts.
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Allah is of Baal. extensive evidence & facts.
Baal denies Adam or humans are gods creation. And they can not have the 'spirit of god within them. Allah is consistent with Baal ideology.
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In Christianity the holy spirit or Comforter is god within every believer - conscious awareness and
acceptance of god - jesus - and the holy spirit - all three.
There is massive evidence for this, I am sure
others will cover that, but you know that too.
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So the point is that Islam denies the holy spirit extensively - being of Baal. Muhammad was not the holy spirit or comforter as he's dead.
Gabriel (an islamic metaphor for Abu Bakr who
was versed in Judaism & in the cave with him telling Muhammad what to do & say) is an angel
- not god himself.
And so MUQ, your responses are confused.
One sentence from you is that Islam does have a
holy spirit 'within each Muslim', the next sentence you disparage it along with jesus being fake as islam does. You reveal the real hatred islam has of Jesus and true god.
Jesus was fake & a liar (sura 4:153/158).
There is no holy spirit (no trinity - extensive)
Allah will send all Muslims to hell first (sura 19)
Allah oneness tawheed states no god except Allah, Muhammad is a Messenger sent to the two races (?) of mankind, and the jinn, other
than which Allaah will not accept any religion from anyone or anything.
So you lie when you say Islam tolerates other beliefs. Allah or Baal does not.
Let's take say the Halal ritual to purge even the sheeps belief of any god that sheep may have!! as its throat is slit, the Muslim beats & torments it with the phrase bismillah Allahu Akbar /'Allah is
greater than' your sheep god and now you die, your blood is sacrificed to allah (exact copy of the Baal ritual).
It just proves the point.
Baal is worshipped today via Allah in every practice & ritual. Baal was never a god but a pagan diety. Allah is not God but Baal.
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A Muslim can not 'know Allah'(Allah has 98
other names including a secret one'(Baal).
Allah or Baal can not be 'within' a Muslim.
So a muslim can not 'know' Baal as a god as
other faiths believe. It is forbidden in Islam by Baal.
The jihad martyr 'heaven bypass'.... was
popularized in the 12th Century (ibn taymiyya) when islam was routed by the Mongols & pushed into the egyptian desert wastes. Al Zahawiri - a egyptian anti western nasserist dug it up again,
using salifism & recidivision as an excuse in the late 20th century & infected his fellow muslim brotherhood protogee bin laden who then
popularized it. It's self serving pagan crap of course.
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Allah or Baal makes it clear all humans go to hell including muslims - and then he (Baal) and a black stone that talks, plus a headless hubal decide who has been the most devoted to Baal.
Arabs only get to go to allah's or baals upstairs
levels (Quran). All the rest including jizya slaves get flayed & broiled in brimstone & fire and eat only what cows may eat.
This is what the Quran states on this.
So MUQ - poor lies from you, you bring shame on Allah & Islam by failing to defend it well.
Terry

Trivandrum, India

#43748 Nov 14, 2013
If everyone like you not gonna show love and if you want to show only discrimination against other religions let it be any religious people and you still gonna stick to your own theory, not any kind of music or poetry, philosophers, great leaders, even if Jesus or god comes back again to earth you all will never change. Its your own fate which decided you to rot in hell. May Father forgive your sins.
MUQ more taqiyya

Kellyville, Australia

#43749 Nov 14, 2013
Re MUQ's taqiyya and false claims of islam & muslims being the only humans who can know god or have god within them as a conscious belief, then his silly claim that Muhammad was the holy spirit of Allah.
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Allah who originated from Baal does not tolerate any other belief or worship & allah speaks on and rules out trinity specifically.
Baal on which Allah is based can not allow the concepts of universal & infinite god including gods presence in all living things. Baal denies god's creation (Adam). This is why the Bakri (baal worshippers) murdered the 'jewish worshippers" Muhammad, Ali & Uthman.
Quran sura 4:171 - Allah repeats Muhammads claim in 4:153 that Jesus is a liar, a fake, and
charlatan. "jesus was no more than one of the
messengers of Allah and NOT the son of god,, as god is above having a son"
Allah rules out trinity or a spirit of God can be 'known' in a consciousness.
Btw - Islam here gets the trinity completely wrong. The trinity is god, jesus as his son and the holy spirit or comforter that endures of god
livimg in each person as gods spirit.
But Islam states in the Quran the trinity is
god, Jesus & Mary !!
A 1,400 year old mistake still in print today.
Here is the quran text :
"Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, was no more
than a Messenger of Allah" (ie a human that Allah or Baal denies is a creation of god)..
And his word that he bestowed on Mary spirit etc
"SAY NOT TRINITY ; desist, it will be better for you" -(the threat of Baal, only he can be worshipped...)
"for Allah is one god" (god can not be Jesus or a belief in you)
"for Allah is one god: glory be to him (far exalted
is he) ABOVE HAVING A SON" "and enough is Allah as the disposer of affairs" (no need - Baal or Allah is all you need).
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So islam gets the trinity wrong in the quran confusing Mary with the holy spirit.
Then repeats the denial of God, jesus or the holy spirit. Jesus was a liar & a fake.
And Allah denies man can know god.
That's Baal. That's Bakri Baal worship.
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Now here's the odd thing.
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Allah has 3 daughters. Manat, Lat & Al-Uzza.
Allah was created in 180 AD in conjuction with the purchase of Hubal - his stone tribute idol (2nd hand Baal idol from Moab). There is
extensive pre Islamic evidence & fact to this.
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Hubal was replaced by Muhammad as a human idol so he could be Abu Bakr's ventroquolist dummy - and Hubal's remains in the Kaaba are worshipped by all Muslims today - MUQ has
admitted in this thread that what he prays is hubal the lord of the kaaba.
All muslims also worship Manat, Lat & al- Uzza
as the 3 star daughters of the moon and darkness deity allah - covertly via the pagan hajj ritual or overtly in the signs, symbols & rituals of Islam.
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So,,,, how come it's beneath Allah (Baal) to have
a son as the Quran states,, but he has 3 daughters ?
This is one of the many cluster f**ks of Islam.
Islam denies any other belief but is a scrambled cut & paste effort itself full of such faults.
A pluralistic pagan set of deities & objects plonked on top of jewish beliefs with fervent effort to appear grand & monotheistic - but all the
time the pagan deity of Baal & then Islamic confection & synthesis give it away.
Islam states god will sent every muslim to hell
(Sura 19 : Maryam), they do not know god, god is not among them or inside them and muslims are godless like cattle that Allah (Baal) and the
black stone & hubal will then judge once they have been brought forward (all humans without exception) on their knees to hell.
Thats Islam as per the Quran.
People may not like the statement but islam and the Quran quite clearly state all Muslims will go to hell - then some (Arabs only) may be saved if a committe of Allah, a black stone & the headless hubal so decide...
This is the love, peace and godly insight of Islam into other beliefs it seeks to deny.
Jake

Coorparoo, Australia

#43750 Nov 14, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. Since it was western people who placed this bully in our midst and it is they who are condoning its every action and supporting in financially, politically and thru military aid, they have prime responsibility for its action.
Islam is superior to other religion thru its teachings, that is why it is spreading in almost every western country , and that is why there is media hype against Islam.
Quran never perpetrates hatred, in fact it asks people of every faith to come and agree on a common platform.
02. It is strange that you have "more believe" in words of other people than Jesus Himself!!
When jesus told clearly that after him, another Comforter shall come, who will guide people into all truth, you should be looking for him.
You have very wrong information about life of our prophet. It would do you a lot of Good, to pick up a Biography of our prophet written by a Muslim and then re-check what you wrote.
Ans 1, How is the west responcable for honour killins done daily in Islamic countries on innocent people ?

How is the west responsible for muslims marching into shopping malls and killing innocent shoppers ?

Why are these muslims who study the words of your Koran interpreting it so correctly and killing in its name.

If these muslims are so wrong in there deeds then why arnt Islamic nations and there armies bringing these people to justice for perverting and insulting the words of your religion ?

Ans 2 your religion spreads only by the sword and by violence, in my country islam is spread only within its own communities and to criminals who embrace its violence and perversion it permits.

Ans-3 Jesus speaks of no comforter, only of his return to defeat the enemeys of god and his people who walk in righteousness, which judging by the conduct of muslims all around the world isn't them.
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#43751 Nov 14, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Islam is superior to other religion

You have very wrong information about life of our prophet.
The only thing Islam is superior is in the number of people it can inspire to kill and murder other people.

But they have learned to build shit!!!

Your prophet was a pedophile, he like having sex with children!! Just a real scum bag who Muslims like to follow!!
Islam revealed

Merrylands, Australia

#43752 Nov 14, 2013
MUQ more taqiyya wrote:
Re MUQ's taqiyya and false claims of islam & muslims being the only humans who can know god or have god within them as a conscious belief, then his claim Muhammad was the holy spirit.
Allah who originated from Baal does not tolerate any other belief or worship & allah speaks on and rules out trinity specifically.
Baal on which Allah is based can not allow the
concepts of universal & infinite god including
gods presence in all living things.
Baal denies god's creation (Adam).
This is why the Bakri (baal worshippers)
murdered the 'jewish worshippers" Muhammad,
Ali & Uthman.
Quran sura 4:171 - Allah repeats muhammad's
claim in 4:153 that Jesus is a liar, a fake, and
charlatan. "jesus was no more than one of the
messengers of Allah and NOT the son of god,, as
god is above having a son"
Allah rules out trinity or a spirit of God can be 'known' in a consciousness.
Btw - Islam here gets the trinity completely
wrong. The trinity is god, jesus as his son and the holy spirit or comforter that endures of god
livimg in each person as gods spirit.
But Islam states in the Quran the trinity is
god, Jesus & Mary !! A 1,400 year old mistake
still in print today. Here is the quran text :
"Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, was no more
than a Messenger of Allah" (ie a human that
Allah or Baal denies is a creation of god).
And his word that he bestowed on Mary spirit etc
"SAY NOT TRINITY ; desist, it will be better for
you" -(the threat of Baal, only he can be
worshipped...) "for Allah is one god" (god can not be Jesus or a belief in you)
"for Allah is one god: glory be to him (far exalted
is he) ABOVE HAVING A SON" "and enough is
Allah as the disposer of affairs" (no need - Baal or Allah is all you need).
So islam gets the trinity wrong in the quran
confusing Mary with the holy spirit.
Then repeats the denial of God, jesus or the holy spirit. Jesus was a liar & a fake.
And Allah denies man can know god.
This is Baal. This is Bakri Baal worship.
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Now here's the odd thing. Allah has 3 daughters.
Manat, Lat & Al-Uzza. Allah was created in 180
AD in conjuction with the purchase of Hubal - his stone tribute idol (2nd hand Baal idol from Moab). There is extensive pre Islamic evidence &
fact to this. Hubal was replaced by Muhammad as a human idol so he could be Abu Bakr's ventroquolist dummy - and Hubal's remains in the Kaaba are worshipped by all Muslims today -
MUQ has admitted in this thread what he prays to is hubal the lord of the kaaba. All muslims also worship Manat, Lat & al-Uzza as the 3 star daughters of the moon and darkness deity allah - covertly via the pagan hajj ritual or overtly in the signs, symbols & rituals of Islam.
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So,,,, how come it's beneath Allah (Baal) to have
a son as the Quran states,, but he has 3 daughters ?
This is one of the many cluster f**ks of Islam.
Islam denies any other belief but is a scrambled cut & paste effort itself full of such faults.
A pluralistic pagan set of deities & objects
plonked on top of jewish beliefs with fervent effort to appear grand & monotheistic - but all the
time the pagan deity of Baal & then Islamic
confection & synthesis give it away.
Islam states god will sent every muslim to hell
(Sura 19 : Maryam), they do not know god, god
is not among them or inside them and muslims are godless like cattle that Allah (Baal) and the
black stone & hubal will then judge once they
have been brought forward (all humans without
exception) on their knees to hell. Thats Islam as per the Quran.
People may not like the statement but islam and the Quran quite clearly states all Muslims will go
to hell - then some (Arabs only) may be saved if a committe of Allah, a black stone & the
headless hubal so decide...
This is the love, peace and godly insight of Islam into other beliefs it seeks to deny.
Every Muslim should read this. MUQ has exposed Allah as Baal, the enemy of any human wishing to belief in a god and a life spirit.

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