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Origins of islam Upd

Australia

#43618 Nov 6, 2013
Sheilla wrote:
Question: What's the Difference Between Shia and Sunni Muslims?
A Question of Succession etc..
The Shia Muslims believe Ali as bloodline.
Shia and Sunni Muslims share main articles of Islamic belief etc
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This corrects the re order of caliphates, but gets to the same conclusion.

->I don't think either the Shia or Sunni have
legitimacy.
It all comes down to who defined and owned islam - was this Abu Bakr or Muhammad ?
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Abu Bakr & Muhammad concocted 'islam' together - from 605 AD they plotted a revival of the  Hamyarite Jewish aligned fanaticism.

Muhammad was then outcast as a heretic by the Jews in 624 AD & it was Abu Bakr who strung 
together the  Hamyrite (prior book of T'ubah) judaism & pagan Allah god worship  into the synthetic of islam.(Gabriel being a metaphor for
Abu Bakr - also in cave with him).

The deal was the Bakri would inherit islam. 
Thus the marriage to Aisha - Abu bakr's daughter etc. Aisha failed to provide a heir, was
having sex with others etc and muhammad tried  to adopt a slave son as a heir.

 The Bakri objected violently & made 3 assassination attempts on Muhammad.
That's all on record. 
Muhammad then selected Ali as his heir (the
Bakri or sunni deny Ali is of Muhammad's bloodline, this has some merit to it) & Muhammad dictated to Ali a reversion - back to hamyarite or
ishmaelism.
Muhammad then said much of Islam was bogus, he was no more a messenger than anyone else, & to beware the Bakri (Sunni) as a false path.
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Aisha on  pretext of a reconciliation poisoned Muhammad (Ali who was defending him was called away) & the entire armed Bakri clan
stripped Muhammad's house of all these offending documents and the recession.
That is a recorded fact.
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So Abu Bakr was always going to replace Muhammad - he was the 'father' of islam, he had muhammad murdered to 'secure' his inheritance
& to prevent Ali as Muhhamad's 'anointed' heir from reverting it to ishmaelism as per Muhammad final wishes & script dictated to Ali.
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Bakr made a mess of it -everyone knew what the Bakri preached was fake, & not the final words of muhammad.
Abu Bakr died - Omar took over and was worse. 3 civil wars & 12 years passed, then Uthman was trotted out. This was when Uthman wrote a
'Quran'(18 other versions or fragments script 'on bone or parchment'). Uthman demanded of Aisha the final scripts of Muhammad - she said it was
"eaten by a goat - Allah willed it".
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The Bakri did not like Uthman's 'invention' of a
quran, too jewish & ishmaelist... they murdered and buried him as a Jew & non believer.
Then rewrote the offending parts.
That is how unbelievably pathetic & fake the 'Quran' is.
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Aisha then claimed she was the legitimate heir of islam - as promised when married to muhammad at 6 years old & consummated at 9 years old etc.

Ali & Aisha had a camel fight between their rival tribes & Ali won. 

So no 'council' or 'consensus' here in succession
planning or ideology of bloodline v elected.!!
A camel fight decided things.!!

Ali became caliphate, started tentative attempts  to shift islam to what Muhammad had told him, and he was murdered by agents sent by Aisha - poison on their swords. 
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Sunni = Bakr followers of Abu Bakr & Aisha.
Shia = Ali, but accept Uthman's scrabbled mess of a Quran as Ali never got a chance to change it.. This is the 'tragedy of islam' the Shia talk of.
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Neither follow the final words of muhammad,
which were destroyed by the Bakri when they 
murdered him.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#43621 Nov 6, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

What Does a Police State Look Like?

Violence, arrests of Occupy protesters and stop-and-frisk. Plus: A worshipful media

By David Sirota

February 14, 2013 "Salon" -- What does a police state really look like in practice in America? Is it the cartoonish dystopia of sci-fi books? Is it like 1998′s “The Siege,” which predicted a wholesale instatement of martial law? Or in the age of the drone-wielding police department, is it something more mundane and subtle yet nonetheless pernicious? From this city in the middle of Middle America, it looks like the latter.

When people think of Denver, many think of skiing and, since the last election, marijuana. But from here in the Mile High City, things seem a bit different. In the day to day operation of the city, we aren’t as much defined by snow and pot as we are by the fact that we live under the rule of an increasingly brutal police force. It is a police force that our political leaders are more than happy to deploy to punish undesirables, and worse, that the most powerful media organ is more than happy to defend.

We have become, in short, a national cautionary tale — one that no doubt epitomizes similar trends throughout the country.

This sad situation has been long in the making. Over the last decade, while then-Mayor John Hickenlooper was gaining national plaudits for his geek-scientist charm, he was overseeing a police department that has become so violent toward citizens, that the U.S. Department of Justice is now considering a formal civil rights investigation. In all, a Cato Institute study shows that in terms of official misconduct, Denver’s police force is the sixth worst in the entire country.

The highest-profile incidents tell the bigger story.

For instance, after the 2008 Democratic convention, Hickenlooper’s administration was forced to settle a lawsuit showing evidence that he ordered his police force to engage in “indiscriminate arrests.”

In 2011, new Mayor Michael Hancock joined with now-Gov. Hickenlooper to become the first government officials to sic riot-gear-clad police on peaceful Occupy Denver protesters, thus turning the state Capitol grounds into the visual definition of the term “police state.” The episode included firing tear gas and rubber bullets at unarmed citizens.
Yasser killed by Muslims

Sydney, Australia

#43622 Nov 6, 2013
News today : re Yasser Arafat's body being exhumed and found to have re traces of polonium - heavy metal found in his remains.
Now here's the interesting thing.
When Arafat died, an extensive autopsy & forensic was done & he had no such traces..
Either the jordanian lied then, or there has been tampering afterwards..
Who killed Arafat ?
Lots of muslims wanted him dead.
Hamas & the salifists in Gaza wanted him dead.
Iran and all Shia wanted him dead.
Jordan Hussein wanted him dead.
Saudi & the Wahhabi wanted him dead.
The Russians wanted him dead.
The Syrian Allawite & Iraq Ba'ath wanted him dead.
In fact the only party that wanted Arafat alive was Israel as Arafat's blundering and posturing was intensely valuable to the state of Israel to have such am idiot caricature postcard 'enemy' waving his gun around & making wild threats.
It turns out and will be revealed- Mossadhad a full time team on Arafat to 'protect' him from other Muslims and keep him alive at all costs !!

Suspicion falls on Saudi & Jordan for the death of Arafat. At the time (2004) the big bucks were about to flow in from the Iraq invasion and Arafat had lost to Hamas and was focused in trying to reclaim the eastern side of the west bank (jonrdanian side) as part of a 'deal' which is a legitimate claim as jordan was the one that sold out the muslim palestinians and took their land.
Jordan who had a gutful of Arafat asked their big brother Saudi to murder Arafat but disguise it as a Russian (polonium) Iran type killing so it wouldn't come back on them. Jordan then lied about the autopsy reports, but now the new Swiss evidence from the remains show who killed Arafat & why.
The USA & Jews fought hard to keep Arafat sponsored & alive, as he was a useful 'stupid' enemy to assisted western efforts & more easily controlled than Hamas or Hezbollah or Al Qaida.
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So now the truth will be revealed. The Jordanians lied & it will be revealed that Muslims killed Arafat as has always been suspected.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#43623 Nov 6, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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What Does a Police State Look Like?
Something akin to what we are seeing in Islamic countries around the world at the moment, and also relating it to their attempts to infiltrate the West by stealth and bring about the same sort of chaos to it, in an attempt to dominate the world. It is called supremacism and smacks of Nazism.. Islam is a political ideology that is hell bent on world domination. As if we didn't already know this

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#43624 Nov 7, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Who in their right mind would allow these tribes to be so close together that they can harm each other ?
Especially for the World's (Non-Muslim) behalf!

- Muslims up to 2 to 5% of the population (Australia, Canada, China, Denmark, Germany, Italy, Norway, Spain, Sweden, UK, USA) stay as segregated minority, start Mosque construction, use oil money to influence liberal Journalists for public relations and open Islamic Study Chairs in major universities, proselytize from vulnerable groups, clog streets with open-air congregationary rug prayers, develop sleeper cells for Jehad;
-Muslims 5 to 10%(France, Kenya,Netherlands, Sweden, Switzerland) push for those Islamic believes that are in conflict with the values & tradition of diverse societies, ask breaks on jobs for 5-times prayers, establish madrasa education, display of veil by their females, demand to rule themselves by Sharia;

-Muslims 10 to 25%(Burma, Cyprus, INDIA,Israel, Philippines, Russia, Serbia, Thailand) tend to increase lawlessness and chaos such as mob violence after Friday prayers for alleged blasphemy or Koran burning destroying national monuments India and car-burnings France. Many actions of native non-Muslims population in full compliance with their own culture, constitution and traditions of freedom of speech will offend Islam resulting in uprisings such as opposition to Mohammad cartoons, post false blogs using non-Muslim on-line names, force partition of countries, create mayhem by terror and ethnic cleansing, keep their daughters confined while seducing young non-Muslim girls to marry forcing conversion, shelter illegal Muslims migrants from all over the world and breed more to increase Muslim population ratio.

-Muslims 25% to 90%- Once the population of Muslims reaches 25%, forced conversions, hair-trigging riots and ethnic cleansing will start to ensure that the figure reaches 95%. As long as the figure is fewer than 25% the only ways to increase Muslim population are illegal immigration, conversion of poor and illiterates, and high birth rates like rabbits; with the exception of few countries such as NIGERIA (always in turmoil despite huge oil income), there are very few countries in the world where the population of Muslims is between 25% and 90%. Indonesia and Malaysia are examples of countries that have seen rapid Islamisation and discrimination of minorities in recent decades.

-Muslims from 90 to 99%(Albania, Azerbaijan, Algeria, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bosnia, Chad, Chechnya, Egypt, Gaza, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kosovo, Kyrgyzstan, Lebanon, Pakistan, Nigeria, Qatar, Sudan, Syria, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Turkey, Uzbekistan, West Bank) notice violent jihad, face hair-trigger riots, jihad lashkars, unfettered persecution of non-Muslims, use Zakat funds to spread Islam and terror, target killings, sporadic ethnic cleansing, death for conversion (apostasy and proselytizing), Rule by Sharia, start conspiracy theory, subdue and impose Jizya tax on non-Muslims only, military coups, dictatorships, disappearances of dissidents, enforcement of dreaded Blasphemy Law, some genocide, drive infidels out.

Undeniable fact: currently, no other religion unleashes terror on the innocent like Islam.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#43625 Nov 7, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I only say that Islamic laws are best for women. Saudi laws if they are according to Islamic laws are best for women.
The women say they are not and that is why they were speaking out .
Seeing you are a frequent visitor to that region you no doubt would have aquainted yourself with their rule book concerning the rights of Islamic women ?
Rules concerning women are very naughty indeed seeing they work in the opposite..
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#43626 Nov 7, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
The women say they are not and that is why they were speaking out .
Seeing you are a frequent visitor to that region you no doubt would have aquainted yourself with their rule book concerning the rights of Islamic women ?
Rules concerning women are very naughty indeed seeing they work in the opposite..
It is the Creator who knows what laws are best for His creations.

He is one who is most unbiased. If women make laws they will see o it that they get maximum benefits, same holds if men make laws.

That is why, it is God who made laws for both of them and He is unbiased and knows what is good and what is bad for each of them.
MUQ in a muddle

Sydney, Australia

#43627 Nov 7, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
It is the Creator who knows what laws are best for His creations.
He is one who is most unbiased. If women make laws they will see o it that they get maximum benefits, same holds if men make laws.
That is why, it is God who made laws for both of them and He is unbiased and knows what is good and what is bad for each of them.
• Is this hubal 'the lord of the Kaaba' that you prostrate to.. that knows best ? Hubal - now a headless pile of rubble buried in the step of the kaaba that all Islam prostrates to as an idol.

• Or is this the black stone that you lick and sniff and sits in judgement of you as the right hand of
Allah and pieces of his face fallen from heaven?
Is it the black stone that knows best ?

• Or is this the crescent moon god Allah ?
Who you ululate to and worship as the lord of darkness and of evil. Who's 3 daughters of Allah Manat, Lat & Al-Uzzah who all dressed as sluts and loose women but are part of Allah himself?

• Or was this Aisha - the mad fat she devil witch of the Bakri - who murdered Muhammad, Uthman & Ali and so hated all other woman she made them wear the 'trussing of a sow' and the 'cloth caps of shame' as she put it - as well as genital circumcision - because she was the godess and inheritor of all islam and this was her judgement of all other woman ?

Which one of these four do you think MUQ got to define woman's status, dress code and social equality ?

(Btw YHWH was not and never will be a god of Islam. Allah is a noun and never of YHWH or any Abrahamic belief. No wonder the Jews get annoyed at islam when they keep borrowing their god without knowing what it is or how to use it.)
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#43628 Nov 7, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
It is the Creator who knows what laws are best for His creations.
He is one who is most unbiased. If women make laws they will see o it that they get maximum benefits, same holds if men make laws.
That is why, it is God who made laws for both of them and He is unbiased and knows what is good and what is bad for each of them.
Yeah, is god making all the wars and killings in the Middle East ?

Did the creator make Muslims killing machines?? Seems like he/she did!!

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#43629 Nov 7, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
It is the Creator who knows what laws are best for His creations.
He is one who is most unbiased. If women make laws they will see o it that they get maximum benefits, same holds if men make laws.
That is why, it is God who made laws for both of them and He is unbiased and knows what is good and what is bad for each of them.
Oh I see, god made different laws for the different religions and different government laws for all mankind .
Why would anyone need laws if they follow god ,it is religion like yours that invent laws to suppress and to intimidate.

Why don't you just admitt that you can't answer the question ?
Farook Yaras

Bankstown, Australia

#43630 Nov 7, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
It is the Creator who knows what laws are best for His creations.
He is one who is most unbiased. If women make laws they will see o it that they get maximum benefits, same holds if men make laws.
That is why, it is God who made laws for both of them and He is unbiased and knows what is good and what is bad for each of them.
And the muslim law kill each others children.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-e... Its weeks since your holy comrades killed each others muslim children, your letting the home team down... KILL EM

Allah Akbar
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#43631 Nov 8, 2013
Serpent wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, is god making all the wars and killings in the Middle East ?
Did the creator make Muslims killing machines?? Seems like he/she did!!
I told you many times, there is nothing like Your God and My God, there is only One True God in universe.

yes nothing happens in world unless God permits it. He has given men some freedom to act as they wish.

But He is watching and recording their actions and shall count every one to their accounts on the last and final day.

No one doing injustice and killing innocent persons shall escape His judgment on Final Day, rest assured!!
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#43632 Nov 8, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

What Does a Police State Look Like?

Violence, arrests of Occupy protesters and stop-and-frisk. Plus: A worshipful media

By David Sirota (Contd)

As a follow-up, rather than initiating a formal investigation into the police, the Denver City Council then passed an ordinance empowering police to arrest homeless people, effectively criminalizing poverty in the middle of a recession and foreclosure crisis. Meanwhile, as the police department continues to reinstate officers who have been caught brutally beating citizens, the department’s independent oversight office is so flooded with brutality charges that it cannot even process them all.

Considering this, you might think that the state’s largest newspaper, the Denver Post, would be sounding the alarm. But quite the opposite has happened: It has used its monopoly power to cheer on the police state.

That’s not entirely surprising, of course. The paper is owned by archconservative Dean Singleton who, as I showed in a recent Harper’s magazine report, is a 21st century caricature of Citizen Kane. In recent years, his editorial page has been so over the top in its vilification of his political enemies that an outsider couldn’t be faulted for assuming the paper is an Onion-esque satire.

For instance, there was the infamous front-page editorial vilifying then-Gov. Bill Ritter as Jimmy Hoffa for merely allowing public employees to unionize. There was the editorial insisting that the criminalization of homelessness was designed to help the homeless. And there were the constant attacks on the Occupy movement culminating in one editorial praising police for forcibly crushing the protest and then another telling those who want to protest government policy to simply “go home.”

This weekend, however, was perhaps the shining example of what the propaganda of a police state really looks like. Next to a hysterical screed railing on a state proposal to guarantee firefighters’ workplace rights, the Post published an editorial opposing legislation to prevent municipal police departments from using armed drones. That’s right, in response to an initiative that would prevent “police from outfitting drones with devices such as Tasers and teargas,” the newspaper of record in a city already plagued by police violence says such an idea is “a step too far.”

If you don’t live in Denver but this nonetheless all sounds familiar, that’s not surprising. As the recession has caused more social foment across the country, and as media has consolidated into the hands of fewer and fewer status-quo-loving plutocrats, the collective response from the power establishment has been authoritarian in nature.

We see it in New York City, where surveillance and stop-and-frisk tactics are running rampant — and yet where billionaire media mogul Michael Bloomberg is regularly portrayed in the media as a great “freedom mayor,” thanks, in part, to the fact that reporters fear he will be their boss one day. And we see it in other cities where police are trying to prevent citizens from even documenting acts of police brutality.

Taken together, whether in Denver or anywhere else, the trend is clear.“Police state” is no longer a hyperbolic term, nor should it imply some fictional fantasy world. It is already here, and it operates in an insipid way whereby its worst atrocities are deftly normalized by power-crazed politicians and power-worshiping media outlets. In that, it is less “1984&#8243; than “Brave New World”— less blatantly horrific than subtly pernicious. Either way, though, the result is the same: a police state that turns the word “liberty” into a meaningless political slogan, and not much more.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#43633 Nov 8, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...
What Does a Police State Look Like?
Violence, arrests of Occupy protesters and stop-and-frisk. Plus: A worshipful media
By David Sirota (Contd)
As a follow-up, rather than initiating a formal investigation into the police, the Denver City Council then passed an ordinance empowering police to arrest homeless people, effectively criminalizing poverty in the middle of a recession and foreclosure crisis. Meanwhile, as the police department continues to reinstate officers who have been caught brutally beating citizens, the department’s independent oversight office is so flooded with brutality charges that it cannot even process them all.
Considering this, you might think that the state’s largest newspaper, the Denver Post, would be sounding the alarm. But quite the opposite has happened: It has used its monopoly power to cheer on the police state.
That’s not entirely surprising, of course. The paper is owned by archconservative Dean Singleton who, as I showed in a recent Harper’s magazine report, is a 21st century caricature of Citizen Kane. In recent years, his editorial page has been so over the top in its vilification of his political enemies that an outsider couldn’t be faulted for assuming the paper is an Onion-esque satire.
For instance, there was the infamous front-page editorial vilifying then-Gov. Bill Ritter as Jimmy Hoffa for merely allowing public employees to unionize. There was the editorial insisting that the criminalization of homelessness was designed to help the homeless. And there were the constant attacks on the Occupy movement culminating in one editorial praising police for forcibly crushing the protest and then another telling those who want to protest government policy to simply “go home.”
This weekend, however, was perhaps the shining example of what the propaganda of a police state really looks like. Next to a hysterical screed railing on a state proposal to guarantee firefighters’ workplace rights, the Post published an editorial opposing legislation to prevent municipal police departments from using armed drones. That’s right, in response to an initiative that would prevent “police from outfitting drones with devices such as Tasers and teargas,” the newspaper of record in a city already plagued by police violence says such an idea is “a step too far.”
If you don’t live in Denver but this nonetheless all sounds familiar, that’s not surprising. As the recession has caused more social foment across the country, and as media has consolidated into the hands of fewer and fewer status-quo-loving plutocrats, the collective response from the power establishment has been authoritarian in nature.
We see it in New York City, where surveillance and stop-and-frisk tactics are running rampant — and yet where billionaire media mogul Michael Bloomberg is regularly portrayed in the media as a great “freedom mayor,” thanks, in part, to the fact that reporters fear he will be their boss one day. And we see it in other cities where police are trying to prevent citizens from even documenting acts of police brutality.
Taken together, whether in Denver or anywhere else, the trend is clear.“Police state” is no longer a hyperbolic term, nor should it imply some fictional fantasy world. It is already here, and it operates in an insipid way whereby its worst atrocities are deftly normalized by power-crazed politicians and power-worshiping media outlets. In that, it is less “1984&#8243; than “Brave New World”— less blatantly horrific than subtly pernicious. Either way, though, the result is the same: a police state that turns the word “liberty” into a meaningless political slogan, and not much more.
The police States within Islam seem the same as the Roman Catholics were a few hundred years ago .

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#43634 Nov 8, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I told you many times, there is nothing like Your God and My God, there is only One True God in universe.
yes nothing happens in world unless God permits it. He has given men some freedom to act as they wish.
But He is watching and recording their actions and shall count every one to their accounts on the last and final day.
No one doing injustice and killing innocent persons shall escape His judgment on Final Day, rest assured!!
Did Muhammad tell of this ?
God judges

Sydney, Australia

#43635 Nov 8, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I told you many times, there is nothing like Your God and My God, there is only One True God in universe.
yes nothing happens in world unless God permits it. He has given men some freedom to act as they wish.
But He is watching and recording their actions and shall count every one to their accounts on the last and final day.

No one doing injustice and killing innocent persons shall escape His judgment on Final Day,
rest assured!!
How will 'Allah' the moon god of the Quareesh, who long predates islam, and never of any
Abrahamic faith,,,, how will this 'Allah' judge your taqiyya & shirk & kitman, your Tasweer MUQ ?

How about Hubal, the headless stone idol of
Allah buried in the step of the Kaaba, how will the lord of the Kaaba and diety of Baal that you confess to worship.. how will Hubal judge your treason in following Jewish synthetic apostasy ?

What about Manat, Lat & Al-Uzza - the star daughters of Allah ? you worship them in your fake & borrowed rituals & idolatry, but betray what they tell you.. How will they judge you?

And how about that black stone,,that you lick and finger and sniff in the hajj sex ritual, the right hand of Allah mounted in a silver vulva that 'will
pass judgement on everyone'.. Do you think you licked & fingered it correctly & you will pass into black stone heaven ??...

Nooo MUQ. Noooo..
You arent going to an Allah, Hubal, Manat, Lat, Al-Uzza or Black Stone heaven.
Only Arabs can go to that heaven, the fake Quran made up by Uthman 12 years after Muhammad was murdered by the
Bakri tells you that.
You better read your Quran A because Allah doesn't want jewish idolizing, shirking, taqiyya & tasweering Indian jizya slave in his heaven..
Nooooo.
You know what will happen.
You will be set aside, and then sent to Jesus who will deal with you..
Jesus will say - "ah MUQ, I have been waiting for you"...
"now explain to me again MUQ this slur that I am a liar and fake and mislead my followers, let's see Quran sura 4: 153-158 - this that you believed in and have spread as a lie to others..."
And Jesus will stroke his beard & with resigned but firm face then say "Well I am very sorry MUQ but can not plead ignorance of this, because i have personally educated you thru many others, and you denied my salvation. Verily thou spat in my face and must an example be made of"
And you will be siezed and shackled & down into the pit you will go.
As examples to all others. Where you will be flayed, and then broiled in brimstone and fire for all of eternity for your sins. That is your destiny.
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Unless you step into the light & repent that you follow baal and his diety of Allah the lord of the Kaaba and of evil & the darkness.

True god and the Bible yells you this.
pigmuncher fixer

Camperdown, Australia

#43636 Nov 8, 2013
Here choke on this you psychopath murderers, thieves and convicts, here choke on this filth brought out by your very own........

Australia's nasty Utopia
By John Pilger

The author's new film, Utopia, to be released this month, visits the brutal past and little-better present of Australia's original inhabitants and their treatment at the hands of the continent's latecomers.

The corridors of the Australian parliament are so white you squint. The sound is hushed; the smell is floor polish. The wooden floors shine so virtuously they reflect the cartoon portraits of prime ministers and rows of Aboriginal paintings, suspended on white walls, their blood and tears invisible.

The parliament stands in Barton, a suburb of Canberra named after the first prime minister of Australia, Edmund Barton, who drew up the White Australia Policy in 1901. "The doctrine of the

equality of man," said Barton, "was never intended to apply" to those not British and white-skinned.

Barton's concern was the Chinese, known as the Yellow Peril; he made no mention of the oldest, most enduring human presence on earth: the first Australians. They did not exist. Their sophisticated care of a harsh land was of no interest. Their epic resistance did not happen. Of those who fought the British invaders of Australia, the Sydney Monitor, reported in 1838: "It was resolved to exterminate the whole race of blacks in that quarter." Today, the survivors are a shaming national secret.

The town of Wilcannia, in New South Wales, is twice distinguished. It is a winner of a national Tidy Town award and its indigenous people have one of the lowest recorded life expectancies. They are usually dead by the age of 35. The Cuban government runs a literacy programme for them, as they do among the poorest of Africa. According to the Credit Suisse Global Wealth report, Australia is the richest place on earth.

Politicians in Canberra are among the wealthiest citizens. Their self-endowment is legendary. Last year, the then minister for indigenous affairs, Jenny Macklin, refurbished her office at a cost to the taxpayer of $331,144.

Macklin recently claimed that, in government, she had made a "huge difference". This is true. During her tenure, the number of Aboriginal people living in slums increased by almost a third, and more than half the money spent on indigenous housing was pocketed by white contractors and a bureaucracy for which she was largely responsible. A typical, dilapidated house in an outback indigenous community must accommodate as many as 25 people. Families, the elderly and the disabled wait years for sanitation that works.

In 2009, Professor James Anaya, the respected UN Rapporteur on the rights of indigenous people, described as racist a "state of emergency" that stripped indigenous communities of their tenuous rights and services on the pretext that pedophile gangs were present in "unthinkable" numbers - a claim dismissed as false by police and the Australian Crime Commission.

The then opposition spokesman on indigenous affairs, Tony Abbott, told Anaya to "get a life" and not "just listen to the old victim brigade". Abbott is now the prime minister of Australia.

I drove into the red heart of central Australia and asked Dr Janelle Trees about the "old victim brigade". A GP whose indigenous patients live within a few miles of $1,000-a-night resorts serving Uluru (Ayers Rock), she said, "There is asbestos in Aboriginal homes, and when somebody gets a fibre of asbestos in their lungs and develops mesothelioma,[the government] doesn't care. When the kids have chronic infections and end up adding to these incredible statistics of indigenous people dying of renal disease, and vulnerable to world record rates of rheumatic heart disease, nothing is done.
pigmuncher fixer

Camperdown, Australia

#43637 Nov 8, 2013
"I ask myself: why not? Malnutrition is common. I wanted to give a patient an anti-inflammatory for an infection that would have been preventable if living conditions were better, but I couldn't treat her because she didn't have enough food to eat and couldn't ingest the tablets. I feel sometimes as if I'm dealing with similar conditions as the English working class at the beginning of the industrial revolution."

In Canberra, in ministerial offices displaying yet more first-nation art, I was told repeatedly how "proud" politicians were of what "we have done for indigenous Australians". When I asked Warren Snowdon - the minister for indigenous health in the Labor government recently replaced by Abbott's conservative coalition - why after almost a quarter of a century representing the poorest, sickest Australians, he had not come up with a solution, he said, "What a stupid question. What a puerile question."

At the end of Anzac Parade in Canberra rises the Australian National War Memorial, which historian Henry Reynolds calls "the sacred center of white nationalism". I was refused permission to film in this great public place. I had made the mistake of expressing an interest in the frontier wars in which black Australians fought the British invasion without guns but with ingenuity and courage - the epitome of the "Anzac tradition".

Yet, in a country littered with cenotaphs not one officially commemorates those who fell resisting "one of the greatest appropriations of land in world history", wrote Reynolds in his landmark book Forgotten War. More first Australians were killed than Native Americans on the American frontier and Maoris in New Zealand. The state of Queensland was a slaughterhouse. An entire people became prisoners of war in their own country, with settlers calling for their extinction. The cattle industry prospered using indigenous men virtually as slave labor. The mining industry today makes profits of a billion dollars a week on indigenous land.

Suppressing these truths, while venerating Australia's servile role in the colonial wars of Britain and the US, has almost cult status in Canberra today. Reynolds and the few who question it have been smeared with abuse. Australia's unique first people are its Intermenschen. As you enter the National War Memorial, indigenous faces are depicted as stone gargoyles alongside kangaroos, reptiles, birds and other "native wildlife".

When I began filming this secret Australia 30 years ago, a global campaign was under way to end apartheid in South Africa. Having reported from South Africa, I was struck by the similarity of white supremacy and the compliance and defensiveness of liberals. Yet no international opprobrium, no boycotts, disturbed the surface of "lucky" Australia.

Watch security guards expel Aboriginal people from shopping malls in Alice Springs; drive the short distance from the suburban barbies of Cromwell Terrace to Whitegate camp, where the tin shacks have no reliable power and water. This is apartheid, or what Reynolds calls, "the whispering in our hearts".

John Pilger's film, Utopia, about Australia, is released in UK cinemas on 15 November and will be broadcast on ITV in December. It is released in Australia in January.

(Published with permission www.johnpilger.com .)

(Copyright 2013 John Pilger)
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#43638 Nov 8, 2013
NT wrote:
Oh I see, god made different laws for the different religions and different government laws for all mankind .
Why would anyone need laws if they follow god ,it is religion like yours that invent laws to suppress and to intimidate.

Why don't you just admitt that you can't answer the question ?
Ans.

The laws made by God were for humans to follow. As conditions and requirements of different nations and at different times were different, there were some “fine tuning” done here and there.

But the essential articles of law remained same for all nation.

It was when Human Civilization reached its age of maturity and there was more means to interact between different nations, when God sent His Last and Final prophet and a code of law that would remain enforce till the last day.

When you follow any code of law, it would force you to do some things and prohibit you from doing something.

This is same for any law, why only Islam. In which country there are laws that allow “absolute freedom of action”?
MUQ stand in no good

Australia

#43640 Nov 8, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
The laws made by God were for humans to follow. As conditions and requirements of different nations and at different times were different, there were some “fine tuning” done here and there.
But the essential articles of law remained same for all nation.
It was when Human Civilization reached its age
of maturity and there was more means to interact between different nations, when God sent His Last and Final prophet and a code of law that would remain enforce till the last day.
When you follow any code of law, it would force
you to do some things and prohibit you from doing something.
This is same for any law, why only Islam. In
which country there are laws that allow “absolute freedom of action”?
Doea anyone else find an indian jizya slave of a pagan moon god that openly declares he worships hubal ; a now headless stone idol buried in the Kaaba, openly declares he licks and fingers the black stone (a bit of fake gravel in resin in a vulva as part of a Pre Islamic sabean hajj sex ritual..
And Indian that openly worships objects, rituals and dieties associated with Baal
And has zero understanding of the bibles, the gospel and other relgions & gods that Islam poorly imitates or creates falsehood about..
And hasnt even read or understood his own fake quran on iota ..
Does anyone else find this person annoying or has he just become ridiculous ?
And is it the same MUQ ?
This one seems to be a very stupid MUQ - can't answer a question. Says nothing and echoed by pigmuncher constantly. Almost a Hindu tag team effort in pretending to be a dumb Muslim..
So for the new 'member of the MUQ tag team' that clearly has reduced IQ and lack of knowledge, I will post a recap of what's already been agreed & decided.
Allah is not god is one.
Mecca didn't exist until 180 AD is another.
Mohammad wasn't a prophet -(his own words) is another.
God Jesus & the holy spirit were it. Anything after this was known ro be false & again Muhammad declared that, but parts of islam still live in denial that muhmmad was a self admitted failure & murdered by his own.
There is no common islam. There is only a common original basis of evil & deciet, now branched our so Muslim kill Muslim.
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Just so the new idiot 'holiday shift' MUQ can get up to speed.

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