Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46810 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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pigmuncher fixer

Camperdown, Australia

#43605 Nov 5, 2013
Unlike the scenario to which they had long grown accustomed, the Israeli soldiers were now facing a man who stood up forcibly for his rights. So instead of dealing with him directly, which they didn’t have the guts to do — since he was totally innocent — they resorted to attacking his animals: those equally innocent of any crime, the most helpless of the helpless.

Of course, they could have done a lot more: they could have detained him and assaulted him though he was guiltless, knowing that the chances they would pay any sort of price for their brutal actions are absolutely nil.

I guess they couldn’t muster the courage.

Israeli soldier threatening activist for saying I exist
This isn’t just terrorism, it’s despicable cowardice. The cowardice of sadistic criminals. It’s also very bad soldiering.

An army whose troops get used to dealing with challenges in this way ought not to be surprised when, facing a real enemy, it finds itself marching towards it up one road and fleeing from it down seven others.

Commanders who turn a blind eye to such incidents, and a public which just doesn’t want to know, not only raise a new generation of coarse thugs who will return to civilian life as coarse thugs — they also bring shame on the entire Israeli army and turn it into an object of universal contempt.

Many Israelis pride themselves on not having any moral sense, in recognizing only what is utilitarian —they think morals “are for the weak.”

So this is how they show their “strength” when they are actually weak: they throw hand grenades at sheep and prove their “courage” by wounding and killing animals.

THEY KILL PEOPLE TOO
Ha yeah right

Sydney, Australia

#43606 Nov 5, 2013
pigmuncher fixer wrote:
Israeli soldiers threw a hand grenade at sheep etc blather.
We normally ignore and step around your little piles of frothy vomit...
But you have to laugh at any Muslims claim that Jews mistreat sheep.... Any Muslims don't ?
Firstly islam copies the Jews. Haram - kosher same same, but with the usual Islamic corruption of it. And you do know the house of Saud is of Jewish origin ?
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But anyway let's examine how islam treats sheep..
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I am sure as a muslim you have been down the marshalling yards as the 'christian sheep' come off the boat..
Your old man (well if he is in fact your father of
your sisters child being you) paying his rupee or rial and dragging the poor hapless sheep down the street as his trophy.
Later in the scrub next to your humpy, the mob gathers as they all line up to kick and beat the
poor bleating tethered sheep, you would no doubt be poking it's eyes with a stick as a brave little muslim.. Then the big moment after the
'Christian sheep' has been tormented, stabbed, it's bones broken, it's face smashed as the mob ululates and shrills - while your dad performs
simulated sex acts, a brave Muslim slashes at the sheep screaming at it "bismillah Allahu Akbar" ie my god is greater than your (Sheep Jesus ?) god - and after much blood and stabbing by the brave little Muslims, the poor old sheep not understanding a single word of
anything finally dies twitching & bled dry.
The family mob are most excited and spread the 'christian blood' of the sheep all over themselves
to show Allah how brave they were in the battle against the powerful Christian sheep.
The father slashes and hacks with his blunt
'sword of allah' and eventually the poor old sheeps head falls off and is proudly passed around and worn on the head in turn by all the
assembled family as they take turns to reenact the murdering.
Allah will be most pleased how they have dispatched the infidel sheep & spilt is blood to
get Allah points.
(personal eyewitness account of exactly how a Muslim family ritually kills a purchased sheep from mali to malaysia as well as downtown Allahabad being home to the most ignorant of all.
Yep - you muslims can really be the experts on the subject of animal welfare...
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#43607 Nov 5, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I only say that Islamic laws are best for women. Saudi laws if they are according to Islamic laws are best for women.
You really are a completely ignorant idiot MUQ.

It's best you continue to live in that sh*t hole that you and your kind built for you.
You could never survive in a Western country, your just too stupid!!

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#43608 Nov 5, 2013
pigmuncher fixer wrote:
<quoted text>
Poor obese pig munching nurse shitlaa, LLOL,LLOL, nobody would touch with a barge pole, poor bitch keeps looking for a Plow ..LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, by the way fatty shitlaa you need to learn how to spell?..its plough..not plow, no wonder you are a shit cleaning nurse LLOL,LLOL, nothing in her empty life except venting her pent-up frustration on MUQ, Good on you MUQ, keep it up, you are doing a fine job of exposing these pigmunchers for the idiots they are LLOL,LLOL,LLOL
Then tell that to the person who wrote the koran dumbo because that's how they wrote it. LMAO

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#43609 Nov 5, 2013
pigmuncher fixer wrote:
<quoted text>
Poor obese pig munching nurse shitlaa, LLOL,LLOL, nobody would touch with a barge pole, poor bitch keeps looking for a Plow ..LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, by the way fatty shitlaa you need to learn how to spell?..its plough..not plow, no wonder you are a shit cleaning nurse LLOL,LLOL, nothing in her empty life except venting her pent-up frustration on MUQ, Good on you MUQ, keep it up, you are doing a fine job of exposing these pigmunchers for the idiots they are LLOL,LLOL,LLOL
HERE'S YOUR FIRST FREE ENGLISH LESSON:

plow also plough (plou)
n.
1. A farm implement consisting of a heavy blade at the end of a beam, usually hitched to a draft team or motor vehicle and used for breaking up soil and cutting furrows in preparation for sowing.
2. An implement of similar function, such as a snowplow.
v. plowed also ploughed, plow·ing also plough·ing, plows also ploughs
v.tr.
1.
a. To break and turn over (earth) with a plow.
b. To form (a furrow, for example) with a plow.
c. To form furrows in with or as if with a plow: plow a field.
2. To make or form with driving force: I plowed my way through the crowd.
3. To cut through (water): plow the high seas.
v.intr.
1. To break and turn up earth with a plow.
2. To admit of plowing: Rocky earth plows poorly.
3. To move or progress with driving force: The attackers formed a wedge and plowed through the enemy line.
4. To proceed laboriously; plod: plowed through the backlog of work.
Phrasal Verbs:
plow back
To reinvest (earnings or profits) in one's business.
plow into Informal
1. To strike with force.
2. To undertake (a task, for example) with eagerness and vigor.
plow under
1. To cause to vanish under something piled up.
2. To overwhelm, as with burdens.

BACK TO SCHOOL FOR YOU. LMAO

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#43610 Nov 5, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I only say that Islamic laws are best for women. Saudi laws if they are according to Islamic laws are best for women.
The women have said publicly then that they are not Islamic law.
More so that the laws are that of the individual male judges personal opinion over that of Islamic law in the Quran .
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#43611 Nov 5, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

No regret” for killing 160 people
No More Truthless Heroes

By Joshua Brollier (Contd.)

Was it to protect us? How informed are we as to who these “Taliban fighters” are, and why do we have the right to take their lives or to occupy their country in the first place? This is especially relevant as the current administration attempts to legally justify its even broader parameters for killing which automatically categorize every male 16 or older as a militant. Other members of the military command structure have been quite willing to extend that logic to "children with potential hostile intent."

So as we consider these issues of legality and US legacy, perhaps we should step back and remember a few big picture facts about Iraq and Afghanistan. The belligerent and misplaced aggression and ensuing chaos after the 2003 Iraq invasion led to hundreds of thousands of casualties (over a million by some calculations) and the largest refugee crisis in the region since the Nakba, with over 4 million Iraqis being displaced from their homes.

In addition to the many thousands of Afghan casualties, more than a decade of crushing warfare and billions of dollars per week being spent on the effort, Afghans have been “perishing under one of the highest infant and maternal mortality rates in the world. At least 36% live below the poverty line and 35% of Afghan men do not have work. The UN calls the acute malnutrition of nearly one million children in the Afghan south ‘shocking’. Almost three quarters of all Afghans do not have access to safe drinking water.”

Given these appalling truths, I am not inclined to write off the immense suffering we have caused around the globe as a necessity or reframe it as victory, nor to join in the popular declarations that Mr. Romesha and Mr. Kyle were heroes. I don’t want to demonize them either. They are part of an imperial system to which many in the US are deeply tied and unquestioningly support with tax dollars. Quite possibly Mr. Kyle was a “family man” to his circle and a loyal friend to his comrades. But can we really honor him as such when he was willing to rob Iraqi families of their fathers and sons?

The New York Times reported that Mr. Kyle saw himself as “protecting American troops” and that his deadly skills were “payback for the 9/11 attacks.” Even as he may have initially been deceived into thinking Sadaam Hussein was responsible for 9/11, how could he extend payback to the entire Iraqi population and return for three additional tours without questioning this logic, which was so full of holes that even the Bush administration gave up on defending it? If you are going to take a life, wouldn’t you want to know with the highest certainty why you were doing so? No, this is not a hero. This is a “yes man” who was so callous to the effects of his violence that he intentionally took a veteran with combat PTSD to a shooting range as a form of therapy.

MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#43612 Nov 5, 2013
GA wrote:
MUQ they may be good for Arab women, but they are not good for European women.

You are an invader MUQ, why don't you understand this?

Your propaganda has no effect here, you are an invading pest that needs a bullet through the head.

If your government displaced your people and allowed hundreds of millions of our people into your nations would you like it?

Stop being a racist bigot Europhobe, and an INVADER and hypocrite.

Listen to our ancient people's runes, do you think my people and your people are compatible?

https://www.youtube.com/watch ...

So get out of my country, you have no idea what you're dealing with.
Ans.

Since God is same for entire earth, His rules and regulations are best for every one, not only Arabs or Asians, but to Europe and America as well..

If "bullet thru the head" is the best solution for me, why you complain about the violence in the world?

How you became the owner of a country which you yourself "invaded" a mere 200 years back and killed most of its original inhabitants?

You should practice first what you preach to other people.

You are sons of convicts and criminals and your post displays your past very clearly!!

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#43613 Nov 6, 2013
Question: What's the Difference Between Shia and Sunni Muslims? Information for Non Muslims

Answer: Both Sunni and Shia Muslims share the most fundamental Islamic beliefs and articles of faith. The differences between these two main sub-groups within Islam initially stemmed not from spiritual differences, but political ones. Over the centuries, however, these political differences have spawned a number of varying practices and positions which have come to carry a spiritual significance.

Origins - A Question of Leadership
The division between Shia and Sunni dates back to the death of the Prophet Muhammad, and the question of who was to take over the leadership of the Muslim nation. Sunni Muslims agree with the position taken by many of the Prophet's companions, that the new leader should be elected from among those capable of the job. This is what was done, and the Prophet Muhammad's close friend and advisor, Abu Bakr, became the first Caliph of the Islamic nation. The word "Sunni" in Arabic comes from a word meaning "one who follows the traditions of the Prophet."

On the other hand, some Muslims share the belief that leadership should have stayed within the Prophet's own family, among those specifically appointed by him, or among Imams appointed by God Himself.

The Shia Muslims believe that following the Prophet Muhammad's death, leadership should have passed directly to his cousin/son-in-law, Ali bin Abu Talib. Throughout history, Shia Muslims have not recognized the authority of elected Muslim leaders, choosing instead to follow a line of Imams which they believe have been appointed by the Prophet Muhammad or God Himself. The word "Shia" in Arabic means a group or supportive party of people. The commonly-known term is shortened from the historical "Shia-t-Ali," or "the Party of Ali." They are also known as followers of "Ahl-al-Bayt" or "People of the Household" (of the Prophet).

Distribution
Sunni Muslims make up the majority (85%) of Muslims all over the world. Significant populations of Shia Muslims can be found in Iran and Iraq, and large minority communities in Yemen, Bahrain, Syria, and Lebanon.

Differences in Religious Practice
From this initial question of political leadership, some aspects of spiritual life have been affected and now differ between the two groups of Muslims.

It is important to remember that despite these differences in opinion and practice, Shia and Sunni Muslims share the main articles of Islamic belief and are considered by most to be brethren in faith. In fact, most Muslims do not distinguish themselves by claiming membership in any particular group, but prefer to call themselves simply, "Muslims."

Religious Leadership
Shia Muslims believe that the Imam is sinless by nature, and that his authority is infallible as it comes directly from God. Therefore, Shia Muslims often venerate the Imams as saints and perform pilgrimages to their tombs and shrines in the hopes of divine intercession.

Sunni Muslims counter that there is no basis in Islam for a hereditary privileged class of spiritual leaders, and certainly no basis for the veneration or intercession of saints. Sunni Muslims contend that leadership of the community is not a birthright, but a trust that is earned and which may be given or taken away by the people themselves.

To be continued

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#43614 Nov 6, 2013
Continued:

Religious Texts and Practices

Shia Muslims also feel animosity towards some of the companions of the Prophet Muhammad, based on their positions and actions during the early years of discord about leadership in the community. Many of these companions (Abu Bakr, Umar ibn Al Khattab, Aisha, etc.) have narrated traditions about the Prophet's life and spiritual practice. Shia Muslims reject these traditions (hadith) and do not base any of their religious practices on the testimony of these individuals. This naturally gives rise to some differences in religious practice between the two groups. These differences touch all detailed aspects of religious life: prayer, fasting, pilgrimage, etc.

http://islam.about.com/cs/divisions/f/shia_su...
MUQ falters

Australia

#43615 Nov 6, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
Since God is same for entire earth, His rules and regulations are best for every one, not only Arabs or Asians, but to Europe and America as well..
If "bullet thru the head" is the best solution for me, why you complain about the violence in the world?
How you became the owner of a country which you yourself "invaded" a mere 200 years back
and killed most of its original inhabitants?
You should practice first what you preach to other people.
You are sons of convicts and criminals and your post displays your past very clearly!!
And so says an Indian wannabe Wahhabist jizya slave of a pagan Arab moon god.. Allah is not a universal diety and never a god. You insult real gods when you say that & Allah as well. He knows his place Allah / he's a diety invented from others and exclusive to some qureesh clans.
MUQ, btw - there are very few descendants of convicts in australia - maybe a 6,000 thousand
descendants? Most convicts were 'good' convicts ie more victims of being poor and minor or non violent crimes and thus selected to setlle Australia. In fact 95% of Australia's poplulation arrived after 1880 - 100 years after the first fleet.
The aboringines are not one race or tribe but thousands of quite different tribes & clans. They were lucky to have british enlightened colonialism. More settlers were killed by
aboriginals than vice versa and how aborigines were treated in australia settlement was peaceful, enlightened and to their benefit by comparism to any other colonisation of the day.
So back to australian convicts - say 6,000 or so.
That's even less than the 12,360 Palestinian Muslim 'refugees' that have a valid entitlement.
I think you are clutching at straws, and your arguments are increasingly weak.

You clearly are having doubts about remaining
muslim aren't you ?
Origins of islam

Australia

#43616 Nov 6, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
Question: What's the Difference Between Shia and Sunni Muslims?
A Question of Succession etc..
The Shia Muslims believe Ali as bloodline.
Shia and Sunni Muslims share main articles of Islamic belief etc
I don't think either the Shia or Sunni have legitimacy. It all comes down to who defined islam - was this Abu Bakr or Muhammad ?
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Abu Bakr & Muhammad concocted 'islam'
together - from 605 AD they had plotted a revival of the prior Hamyarite Jewish aligned fanaticism.
When muhammad was outcast as a heretic by
the Jews in 624 AD -it was Abu Bakr that strung
together the synthetic of Hamyrite (prior book of T'ubah) judaism and pagan Allah god worship
into the synthetic of islam.(Gabriel being a metaphor for Abu Bakr - also in cave with him).
The deal was that the Bakri would inherit islam.
Thus the marriage to Aisha - Abu bakr's daughter etc. Aisha failed to provide a heir, was
having sex with others etc and muhammad tried
to adopt a slave son as a heir.. The Bakri objected violently and launched 3 assassination attempts on Muhammad. That's all on record.
Muhammad then selected Ali as his heir (the Bakri or sunni deny Ali is of muhammads bloodline and this has some merit to it) &
muhammad dictated to Ali a reversion back to hamyarite or ishmaelism.
Including that Islam was bogus, and he was no more a messenger than anyone else.
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Aisha on the pretext of a reconciliation poisoned Muhammad (ali who had been defending
him was called away) & the entire armed Bakri clan stripped Muhammads house of all the
offending documents and the recession.
This is also all recorded as fact beyond doubt.
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So Abu Bakr was always going to replace Muhammad - he was the father of islam, and he
had muhammad murdered to 'secure' his inheritance & to prevent Ali as Muhhamad's
annointed heir from reverting it to
ishmaelism as was Muhammad final wishes &
script dictated to Ali.
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Bakr made a mess of it - 3 civil wars & uprisings
because everyone knew what the Bakri preached was fake, and not the final words of muhammad.
Bakr died - and Aisha claimed she was the legitimate heir of islam - as promised when she was married to muhammad at 6 years old & consummated at 9 years old etc.
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Ali & Aisha had a camel fight between their rival tribes & Ali won.
So no 'council' or 'consensus' here in succession planning and ideology of bloodline v elected.
It was a camel fight.
Ali became caliphate, started tentative attempts
to shift islam to what Muhammad had told him, and then was murdered by agents sent by Aisha - poison on their swords.
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Uthman was then trotted out and that was when he wrote a 'Quran'(18 other versions of script
existed). Muhammad never wrote a Quran.
Uthman demanded of Aisha the final scripts of muhhammad - "eaten by a goat - Allah willed it".
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The Bakri did not like Uthman's 'invention' of a quran, too jewish & ishmaelist... they murdered and buried him as a Jew & non believer. Then rewrote the offending parts. This is how
pathetically fake the quran is.
Sunni = Bakr followers of Abu Bakr & Aisha.
Shia = Ali , but accept most of Uthman's Quran.
Neither follow the final words of muhammad which were destroyed by the Bakri when they
murdered him.
Bush Lawyer

Australia

#43617 Nov 6, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
Question: What's the Difference Between Shia and Sunni Muslims? Information for Non Muslims
Answer: Both Sunni and Shia Muslims share the most fundamental Islamic beliefs and articles of faith. The differences between these two main sub-groups within Islam initially stemmed not from spiritual differences, but political ones. Over the centuries, however, these political differences have spawned a number of varying practices and positions which have come to carry a spiritual significance.
Origins - A Question of Leadership
The division between Shia and Sunni dates back to the death of the Prophet Muhammad, and the question of who was to take over the leadership of the Muslim nation. Sunni Muslims agree with the position taken by many of the Prophet's companions, that the new leader should be elected from among those capable of the job. This is what was done, and the Prophet Muhammad's close friend and advisor, Abu Bakr, became the first Caliph of the Islamic nation. The word "Sunni" in Arabic comes from a word meaning "one who follows the traditions of the Prophet."
On the other hand, some Muslims share the belief that leadership should have stayed within the Prophet's own family, among those specifically appointed by him, or among Imams appointed by God Himself.
The Shia Muslims believe that following the Prophet Muhammad's death, leadership should have passed directly to his cousin/son-in-law, Ali bin Abu Talib. Throughout history, Shia Muslims have not recognized the authority of elected Muslim leaders, choosing instead to follow a line of Imams which they believe have been appointed by the Prophet Muhammad or God Himself. The word "Shia" in Arabic means a group or supportive party of people. The commonly-known term is shortened from the historical "Shia-t-Ali," or "the Party of Ali." They are also known as followers of "Ahl-al-Bayt" or "People of the Household" (of the Prophet).
Distribution
Sunni Muslims make up the majority (85%) of Muslims all over the world. Significant populations of Shia Muslims can be found in Iran and Iraq, and large minority communities in Yemen, Bahrain, Syria, and Lebanon.
Differences in Religious Practice
From this initial question of political leadership, some aspects of spiritual life have been affected and now differ between the two groups of Muslims.
It is important to remember that despite these differences in opinion and practice, Shia and Sunni Muslims share the main articles of Islamic belief and are considered by most to be brethren in faith. In fact, most Muslims do not distinguish themselves by claiming membership in any particular group, but prefer to call themselves simply, "Muslims."
Religious Leadership
Shia Muslims believe that the Imam is sinless by nature, and that his authority is infallible as it comes directly from God. Therefore, Shia Muslims often venerate the Imams as saints and perform pilgrimages to their tombs and shrines in the hopes of divine intercession.
Sunni Muslims counter that there is no basis in Islam for a hereditary privileged class of spiritual leaders, and certainly no basis for the veneration or intercession of saints. Sunni Muslims contend that leadership of the community is not a birthright, but a trust that is earned and which may be given or taken away by the people themselves.
To be continued
How can the people replace their spiritual leaders ?
Christian Ministers were once looked upon as sinless until some of their flock got randy with the kiddies .
Origins of islam Upd

Australia

#43618 Nov 6, 2013
Sheilla wrote:
Question: What's the Difference Between Shia and Sunni Muslims?
A Question of Succession etc..
The Shia Muslims believe Ali as bloodline.
Shia and Sunni Muslims share main articles of Islamic belief etc
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This corrects the re order of caliphates, but gets to the same conclusion.

->I don't think either the Shia or Sunni have
legitimacy.
It all comes down to who defined and owned islam - was this Abu Bakr or Muhammad ?
-
Abu Bakr & Muhammad concocted 'islam' together - from 605 AD they plotted a revival of the  Hamyarite Jewish aligned fanaticism.

Muhammad was then outcast as a heretic by the Jews in 624 AD & it was Abu Bakr who strung 
together the  Hamyrite (prior book of T'ubah) judaism & pagan Allah god worship  into the synthetic of islam.(Gabriel being a metaphor for
Abu Bakr - also in cave with him).

The deal was the Bakri would inherit islam. 
Thus the marriage to Aisha - Abu bakr's daughter etc. Aisha failed to provide a heir, was
having sex with others etc and muhammad tried  to adopt a slave son as a heir.

 The Bakri objected violently & made 3 assassination attempts on Muhammad.
That's all on record. 
Muhammad then selected Ali as his heir (the
Bakri or sunni deny Ali is of Muhammad's bloodline, this has some merit to it) & Muhammad dictated to Ali a reversion - back to hamyarite or
ishmaelism.
Muhammad then said much of Islam was bogus, he was no more a messenger than anyone else, & to beware the Bakri (Sunni) as a false path.
-
Aisha on  pretext of a reconciliation poisoned Muhammad (Ali who was defending him was called away) & the entire armed Bakri clan
stripped Muhammad's house of all these offending documents and the recession.
That is a recorded fact.
-
So Abu Bakr was always going to replace Muhammad - he was the 'father' of islam, he had muhammad murdered to 'secure' his inheritance
& to prevent Ali as Muhhamad's 'anointed' heir from reverting it to ishmaelism as per Muhammad final wishes & script dictated to Ali.
-
Bakr made a mess of it -everyone knew what the Bakri preached was fake, & not the final words of muhammad.
Abu Bakr died - Omar took over and was worse. 3 civil wars & 12 years passed, then Uthman was trotted out. This was when Uthman wrote a
'Quran'(18 other versions or fragments script 'on bone or parchment'). Uthman demanded of Aisha the final scripts of Muhammad - she said it was
"eaten by a goat - Allah willed it".
-
The Bakri did not like Uthman's 'invention' of a
quran, too jewish & ishmaelist... they murdered and buried him as a Jew & non believer.
Then rewrote the offending parts.
That is how unbelievably pathetic & fake the 'Quran' is.
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Aisha then claimed she was the legitimate heir of islam - as promised when married to muhammad at 6 years old & consummated at 9 years old etc.

Ali & Aisha had a camel fight between their rival tribes & Ali won. 

So no 'council' or 'consensus' here in succession
planning or ideology of bloodline v elected.!!
A camel fight decided things.!!

Ali became caliphate, started tentative attempts  to shift islam to what Muhammad had told him, and he was murdered by agents sent by Aisha - poison on their swords. 
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Sunni = Bakr followers of Abu Bakr & Aisha.
Shia = Ali, but accept Uthman's scrabbled mess of a Quran as Ali never got a chance to change it.. This is the 'tragedy of islam' the Shia talk of.
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Neither follow the final words of muhammad,
which were destroyed by the Bakri when they 
murdered him.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#43621 Nov 6, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

What Does a Police State Look Like?

Violence, arrests of Occupy protesters and stop-and-frisk. Plus: A worshipful media

By David Sirota

February 14, 2013 "Salon" -- What does a police state really look like in practice in America? Is it the cartoonish dystopia of sci-fi books? Is it like 1998&#8242;s “The Siege,” which predicted a wholesale instatement of martial law? Or in the age of the drone-wielding police department, is it something more mundane and subtle yet nonetheless pernicious? From this city in the middle of Middle America, it looks like the latter.

When people think of Denver, many think of skiing and, since the last election, marijuana. But from here in the Mile High City, things seem a bit different. In the day to day operation of the city, we aren’t as much defined by snow and pot as we are by the fact that we live under the rule of an increasingly brutal police force. It is a police force that our political leaders are more than happy to deploy to punish undesirables, and worse, that the most powerful media organ is more than happy to defend.

We have become, in short, a national cautionary tale — one that no doubt epitomizes similar trends throughout the country.

This sad situation has been long in the making. Over the last decade, while then-Mayor John Hickenlooper was gaining national plaudits for his geek-scientist charm, he was overseeing a police department that has become so violent toward citizens, that the U.S. Department of Justice is now considering a formal civil rights investigation. In all, a Cato Institute study shows that in terms of official misconduct, Denver’s police force is the sixth worst in the entire country.

The highest-profile incidents tell the bigger story.

For instance, after the 2008 Democratic convention, Hickenlooper’s administration was forced to settle a lawsuit showing evidence that he ordered his police force to engage in “indiscriminate arrests.”

In 2011, new Mayor Michael Hancock joined with now-Gov. Hickenlooper to become the first government officials to sic riot-gear-clad police on peaceful Occupy Denver protesters, thus turning the state Capitol grounds into the visual definition of the term “police state.” The episode included firing tear gas and rubber bullets at unarmed citizens.
Yasser killed by Muslims

Sydney, Australia

#43622 Nov 6, 2013
News today : re Yasser Arafat's body being exhumed and found to have re traces of polonium - heavy metal found in his remains.
Now here's the interesting thing.
When Arafat died, an extensive autopsy & forensic was done & he had no such traces..
Either the jordanian lied then, or there has been tampering afterwards..
Who killed Arafat ?
Lots of muslims wanted him dead.
Hamas & the salifists in Gaza wanted him dead.
Iran and all Shia wanted him dead.
Jordan Hussein wanted him dead.
Saudi & the Wahhabi wanted him dead.
The Russians wanted him dead.
The Syrian Allawite & Iraq Ba'ath wanted him dead.
In fact the only party that wanted Arafat alive was Israel as Arafat's blundering and posturing was intensely valuable to the state of Israel to have such am idiot caricature postcard 'enemy' waving his gun around & making wild threats.
It turns out and will be revealed- Mossadhad a full time team on Arafat to 'protect' him from other Muslims and keep him alive at all costs !!

Suspicion falls on Saudi & Jordan for the death of Arafat. At the time (2004) the big bucks were about to flow in from the Iraq invasion and Arafat had lost to Hamas and was focused in trying to reclaim the eastern side of the west bank (jonrdanian side) as part of a 'deal' which is a legitimate claim as jordan was the one that sold out the muslim palestinians and took their land.
Jordan who had a gutful of Arafat asked their big brother Saudi to murder Arafat but disguise it as a Russian (polonium) Iran type killing so it wouldn't come back on them. Jordan then lied about the autopsy reports, but now the new Swiss evidence from the remains show who killed Arafat & why.
The USA & Jews fought hard to keep Arafat sponsored & alive, as he was a useful 'stupid' enemy to assisted western efforts & more easily controlled than Hamas or Hezbollah or Al Qaida.
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So now the truth will be revealed. The Jordanians lied & it will be revealed that Muslims killed Arafat as has always been suspected.

Since: Jun 12

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#43623 Nov 6, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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What Does a Police State Look Like?
Something akin to what we are seeing in Islamic countries around the world at the moment, and also relating it to their attempts to infiltrate the West by stealth and bring about the same sort of chaos to it, in an attempt to dominate the world. It is called supremacism and smacks of Nazism.. Islam is a political ideology that is hell bent on world domination. As if we didn't already know this

Since: Sep 12

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#43624 Nov 7, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Who in their right mind would allow these tribes to be so close together that they can harm each other ?
Especially for the World's (Non-Muslim) behalf!

- Muslims up to 2 to 5% of the population (Australia, Canada, China, Denmark, Germany, Italy, Norway, Spain, Sweden, UK, USA) stay as segregated minority, start Mosque construction, use oil money to influence liberal Journalists for public relations and open Islamic Study Chairs in major universities, proselytize from vulnerable groups, clog streets with open-air congregationary rug prayers, develop sleeper cells for Jehad;
-Muslims 5 to 10%(France, Kenya,Netherlands, Sweden, Switzerland) push for those Islamic believes that are in conflict with the values & tradition of diverse societies, ask breaks on jobs for 5-times prayers, establish madrasa education, display of veil by their females, demand to rule themselves by Sharia;

-Muslims 10 to 25%(Burma, Cyprus, INDIA,Israel, Philippines, Russia, Serbia, Thailand) tend to increase lawlessness and chaos such as mob violence after Friday prayers for alleged blasphemy or Koran burning destroying national monuments India and car-burnings France. Many actions of native non-Muslims population in full compliance with their own culture, constitution and traditions of freedom of speech will offend Islam resulting in uprisings such as opposition to Mohammad cartoons, post false blogs using non-Muslim on-line names, force partition of countries, create mayhem by terror and ethnic cleansing, keep their daughters confined while seducing young non-Muslim girls to marry forcing conversion, shelter illegal Muslims migrants from all over the world and breed more to increase Muslim population ratio.

-Muslims 25% to 90%- Once the population of Muslims reaches 25%, forced conversions, hair-trigging riots and ethnic cleansing will start to ensure that the figure reaches 95%. As long as the figure is fewer than 25% the only ways to increase Muslim population are illegal immigration, conversion of poor and illiterates, and high birth rates like rabbits; with the exception of few countries such as NIGERIA (always in turmoil despite huge oil income), there are very few countries in the world where the population of Muslims is between 25% and 90%. Indonesia and Malaysia are examples of countries that have seen rapid Islamisation and discrimination of minorities in recent decades.

-Muslims from 90 to 99%(Albania, Azerbaijan, Algeria, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bosnia, Chad, Chechnya, Egypt, Gaza, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kosovo, Kyrgyzstan, Lebanon, Pakistan, Nigeria, Qatar, Sudan, Syria, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Turkey, Uzbekistan, West Bank) notice violent jihad, face hair-trigger riots, jihad lashkars, unfettered persecution of non-Muslims, use Zakat funds to spread Islam and terror, target killings, sporadic ethnic cleansing, death for conversion (apostasy and proselytizing), Rule by Sharia, start conspiracy theory, subdue and impose Jizya tax on non-Muslims only, military coups, dictatorships, disappearances of dissidents, enforcement of dreaded Blasphemy Law, some genocide, drive infidels out.

Undeniable fact: currently, no other religion unleashes terror on the innocent like Islam.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#43625 Nov 7, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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I only say that Islamic laws are best for women. Saudi laws if they are according to Islamic laws are best for women.
The women say they are not and that is why they were speaking out .
Seeing you are a frequent visitor to that region you no doubt would have aquainted yourself with their rule book concerning the rights of Islamic women ?
Rules concerning women are very naughty indeed seeing they work in the opposite..
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#43626 Nov 7, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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The women say they are not and that is why they were speaking out .
Seeing you are a frequent visitor to that region you no doubt would have aquainted yourself with their rule book concerning the rights of Islamic women ?
Rules concerning women are very naughty indeed seeing they work in the opposite..
It is the Creator who knows what laws are best for His creations.

He is one who is most unbiased. If women make laws they will see o it that they get maximum benefits, same holds if men make laws.

That is why, it is God who made laws for both of them and He is unbiased and knows what is good and what is bad for each of them.

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