Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46820 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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Karakoram

Sydney, Australia

#43518 Oct 31, 2013
Baldwin wrote:
<quoted text>
So the Wahhabi were a cult deliberately
designed by the British to infect islam and turn Muslim against Muslim. How clever were these British ! This book about Mr Hempher should be
compulsory reading for all muslims.
Interesting. C
Did Mr. Hempher partake in the pleasures of the Hajj ?
Did he also dance in pleasure with the barbarians naked as they circled their pagan gods and objects, ululating at their god the moon, as the mob fought in a frenzy to slavering to share body fluids, daubing, licking & kissing the black stone in its vulva housing ?

Did Mr. Hempher smile wryly as he thought...'we were like this once, before we were given jesus
lord christ. Now we are men, not animals like this'?
Yaanis

Wentworthville, Australia

#43519 Oct 31, 2013
Oh Dear, We must have insulted our dear Muq holiest of the holy. no comments !
Run for your chickens to feed your family
&fe ature=player_embedded pathetic to preach to us, wake up. ;)
Yaanis

Wentworthville, Australia

#43520 Oct 31, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
It is not permissible for any Muslim to touch hands or make any personal contact with any women who is not closely related to him.
He cannot even shake hand with strager Muslim females, what to say about Non Muslim females.
Same holds for Muslim ladies also.
Islam is agianst free mixes of the twwo sexes, which is the root cause of most of the social propblems we see in western world.
Hi mum did you and dad have a nice holiday with uncle Abdul ?
Yes Son !!
MUQ please explain

Sydney, Australia

#43522 Oct 31, 2013
MUQ origins wrote:
Excerpt from Mr Hempher memoirs.
Hempher went back to London, the authorities pleased with his selection of  Abdul Wahhab. Wahhab was then introduced to certain secrets, contained in a thousand-page book that outlined deficiencies of Muslims, and prescribed ways to manipulate them:
The book states  Muslims’ weak points as follows: 
sectarian divisions,
 illiteracy,
 poor hygiene, vulnerable to disease.
 Ruled by unjust dictatorships
 Poor infrastructure
 general disorderliness
 rules of the Koran never followed or practiced, 
The muslim live in economic collapse, poverty.
There is constant retrogression and lack of unity or common good. 
The military is weak, and weapons employed are out-of-date or  obsolete. 
Women’s right are violated.

The  book outlined how the British will undermine the Muslims’ strong points in the following
methods: 
foment discord and publish literature to further incite controversies.
Obstruct education,
 encourage otherworldliness like mystical Sufism. 
Encourage oppressiveness among emperors. 
Encourage secularism, or the need to separate
religion from state affairs. 
Aggravate economic decline through sabotage. 
Accustom statesmen to such indulgences as sex,
sports, alcohol, gambling, and interest banking.

Then, in order to make the new generation
hostile towards their rulers and scholars, expose them for their corruption..
Most  importantly, the British must introduce
fanaticism among Muslims and then criticize Islam as a religion of terror.(!!)
The means of popularizing these vices were by 
penetrating professions as medicine, engineering
and bookkeeping. 
 Abdul Wahhab agreed to cooperate, on two
stipulations : he was supported with financing
and weaponry. And a principality be established in his native country of Arabia to give him a base
of protection.(see House of Saud Jewish Emir).
Hempher then joined Abdul Wahhab in Najd, and Wahhab was given the obligations and
instructions
• of declaring all Muslims, who did not follow him, as disbelievers, he announced  he is permitted to
kill them, to seize their property, to violate their
chastity, to enslave them and sell them at slave markets.
 • to discourage Muslims from obeying the Sultan in Istanbul, and provoke revolt against him. 
•to allege that all sacred sites and relics are
idols, respect of them is of  apostasy, they be
demolished.
**********
 •He is to do his best to produce occasions for
insulting the Prophet Muhammad, his Khalifas,
prominent scholars of Madhhabs, differing schools of legal interpretation.
**^^^^****
 Finally, his utmost to encourage insurrections, oppressions and anarchy in Muslim countries.
Muslim worshippers visited graves of holy men.
Abdul Wahhab used this pretext to argue that, by asking help from someone other than God, they
were  “worshipping” these dead men, and  
committing an act of idolatry that caused them to forfeit Islam and become apostates. It was  
permitted, he argued, to fight them. 

These were some of the pretexts used by the British, through the mouth of Wahhab to incite
Arabs against their rulers and the Turks.
To be continued..
So the Wahhabi of Saudi DO NOT believe in
Muhammad ?(***^^***
One of the instructions given by the British when creating the virus of wahhabism to infect all Muslims, was to denigrate Muhammad and destroy his legacy and beliefs.
To take all Muslims back to Judaism ?
Because we learn also that the house of Saud were Jewish merchants from Bagdhad.
Are the Wahhabi really the enemy of all other Muslims ?
European

Marrickville, Australia

#43524 Nov 1, 2013
Republican Eagle wrote:
I wonder, Muslims have so much land and so many counties. Muslims have more than 50 odd nations. Why don't they assimilate Palestinian people in to their societies and provide them with opportunities to have good lives?
Supporting Palestinian people supports providing them with weapons & jihad only?
Step forward never back.
Borgs don't negotiate they only assimilate.

Not only will they not negotiate the land of Israel but they think a third of Europe is Islamic land since once they steal land it will always be Islamic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divisions_of_the...

http://www.onislam.net/english/shariah/contem...
Rauf lala

Ashburn, VA

#43525 Nov 1, 2013
One night, Muhammed the pedophile prophet had a dream where his angels served baby Aisha to him in aplatter of bowl.
The self acclaimed prophet did not think of helping the little girl get education or send her to nursery school.
The devil advocate thought nothing but to marry this little girl and defile her.
It is on record, muhammed defiled Aisha in a very inhumane way.
At a time, Aisha complained of chest pain because Muhammed used to press her chest and Muhammad used to thigh her they call Mufa'khatat in horrible ways when Aisha was 6.
And allah, screamed from hell fire that Muslims should emulate Muhammed.

JUST READ THIS >.>> "'O womenfolk, you should ask for forgiveness for I saw you in bulk amongst the dwellers of Hell.' A wise lady said: Why is it, Allah's Apostle, that women comprise the bulk of the inhabitants of Hell?

The Prophet observed:'You curse too much and are ungrateful to your spouses.
You lack common sense, fail in religion and rob the wisdom of the wise.' Upon this the woman remarked:
What is wrong with our common sense?

The Prophet replied,'Your lack of common sense can be determined from the fact that the evidence of two women is equal to one man. That is a proof.'"
Right from the book of destruction,Kuran.
allah screamed"""MmMm MmM mohammed is God's apostle.
Those who follow him are harsh to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29

O Muslims,how many people called Muhammad 'insane' during his time?

Wasn't that many?

the fact that you guys are sentimental about him does not mean that there shall be no freedom in the universe of human thought... everybody is free to criticize... you should grow your skin thick... it is part of 'growing up'...

screw you
Serg

Bankstown, Australia

#43526 Nov 1, 2013
http://www.skynews.com.au/world/article.aspx...

More child killing ? pathetic people.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#43527 Nov 1, 2013
Yaanis wrote:
<quoted text> Hi mum did you and dad have a nice holiday with uncle Abdul ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =V84VmgQrocwXX Yes Son !!
That's one way to get rid of the rodents . lol .
MUQ re house Saud

Saint Marys, Australia

#43528 Nov 1, 2013
MUQ please explain wrote:
<quoted text>
So the Wahhabi of Saudi DO NOT believe in
Muhammad ?(***^^***
One of the instructions given by the British when creating the virus of wahhabism to infect all Muslims, was to denigrate Muhammad and destroy his legacy and beliefs.
To take all Muslims back to Judaism ?
Because we learn also that the house of Saud
were Jewish merchants from Bagdhad.
Are the Wahhabi really the enemy of all other Muslims ?
MUQ - don't you also think the Saudi royal family look Jewish ?
They have the big beaked noses and the big thick lips, the weaker chin and swarthy skin like the Arab. Stooped, long tapered fingers and the lots of asymmetry and big ears etc showing
inbreeding. But that's common to both.
But then they have that more rounded watery eye with the distinctively oriental eyefold unlike
the Arab eye which is more almond shaped.
That's a very distinctive trait. Plus they have the stoop and the hunchback and the scurfed looking balding head up in a circle from the front and top rather than the Arab pattern of hair which usually has good hair and a strong horizontal hair line.
These are traits that are very clearly non Arab. Plus of course the house of Saud have admitted it so no mystery, but that may not be public in rsa.(They have said their origins were from a Jewish family from Bagdhad and are of jewish blood).
Just look at the current saudi royal family.
If you took off all their garb, they would be quite at home and indistngushable from the other jewry lined up and putting post it notes in the cracks of the wailing wall.
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Is wahabbism & the Saudi royal family part of a wider Jewish zionist plot perhaps MUQ ?
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Like something out of animal farm, the elite Jews
and wahhabi are all the same, and they conspire against the jizya slaves like you to keep you in ignorance & servitude ?
Is that what is happening in islam ?
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#43529 Nov 2, 2013
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Israeli 'Prisoner X' Took Part in Mossad Operation of Killing Hamas Operative in Dubai?

By RT

February 14, 2013 "RT" -- Another layer has been added to Israel’s ‘Prisoner X’ spy story, as new details shed light on Ben Zygier’s dealings with Mossad. An Israeli lawyer says the man – who took his own life in a jail cell – did not seem like he was at risk of suicide.

Zygier’s associations with Mossad are still cloudy, as media agencies report different accounts of his previous work with the organization.

According to Kuwaiti newspaper Al Jarida, Zygier reportedly took part in the 2010 killing of Hamas operative Mahmoud al-Mahbouh in Dubai and offered the government information about the operation in return for the United Arab Emirates’ protection.

Australia’s Fairfax Media reports that Australian security officials suspected Zygier may have been about to disclose Israeli intelligence operations – including the use of fraudulent Australian passports – to the Australian government or the media.

The Israeli government has not confirmed or denied Zygier’s association with Mossad. However, Zygier himself reportedly confided in at least two friends that he had been recruited by Mossad.

“He told me he’d just been recruited,” a friend close to Zygier told Haaretz.“I was in shock. It’s the sort of thing people usually joke about but I had no reason to doubt him at all.”

Zygier’s suicide has shed light on Mossad’s recruitment of foreign-born Jews who could spy under cover on their native passports.

Mossad has come under criticism many times for using the passports and identities of citizens of foreign countries. And despite repeated promises to stop the practices, it seems the organization is refusing to change its ways.

Just one year ago, The Times of London published two accounts of young men who had emigrated to Israel from Britain and France. During their IDF service, both men were approached by a woman who identified herself as a Mossad official who asked the gentlemen to “lend” their passports for about 18 months while they were still in the army. Once the men reclaimed their passports, they contained stamps from countries including Russia, Azerbaijan, and Turkey, Haaretz reports.

MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#43530 Nov 2, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
I am having thoughts that the written words of Islam are a warning to future generations of what Islam is .
Islam is same and unchanged as it was i400 years old.

Every other religion has changed much both in practice and scriptures. It is only Islam which is protected in its pristine condition.

So much so that if Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) would visit holy Makkah or Holy Madina mosque, he can straightaway lead prayers and deliver his sermon in the language he used to speak and no one will have any problem at all.

Could any one say the same thing about prophets of any other religion?

Why then written records of Islam are danger for any future generations?

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#43533 Nov 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Islam is same and unchanged as it was i400 years old.
Every other religion has changed much both in practice and scriptures. It is only Islam which is protected in its pristine condition.
A: in your dreams MUG.Caliph Uthman destroyed all variants of the Quran ( www.parapundit.com/archives/001519.html )– yes there were many - and banned non-Arabic translations in order to keep it pure, according to his own version of it.
When Caliph Uthman “standardised” the Quran, he destroyed all other copies than the one used by Muhammad’s widow, Hafsah; which was the basis for the “standard” version. Then, at her death, her copy was also destroyed. But sufficient records have survived to show that there were many quite significant variations.
Was Caliph Uthman a prophet?
A: No
Was he infallible, sinless and perfect?
A: No
Was his judgement unquestionable?
A:No he made mistakes and admitted them

Ask yourself carefully, and determine if you can know whether your Quran really is unchanged from what Allah gave Mohammed… Or if you have been reading false scriptures ever since the time of Caliph Uthman.
Caliph Uthman, a fallible and non-Allah led normal human, destroyed all the copies of the Quran he did not like.
End of story!!!!!!!!!!
MUQ re if Mo was around

Sydney, Australia

#43534 Nov 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Islam is same and unchanged as it was i400 years old.
Every other religion has changed much both in practice and scriptures. It is only Islam which is protected in its pristine condition.
So much so that if Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) would visit holy Makkah or Holy Madina mosque, he can straightaway lead prayers and deliver his sermon in the language he used to speak and no one will have any problem at all.
Could any one say the same thing about prophets of any other religion?
Why then written records of Islam are danger for any future generations?
Muq no, Muhammad would be very disappointed in fact and not understand that despite his many warnings, "Islam" became a corruption of the Bakri and did not follow the path he said.
He had said (that when the Bakri murder him & that they would try to corrupt islam "turn on your heel and walk away" but the weak pagan Muslims did not.
Muhammad never dictated a Quran as you know.
'his prayers' and intent was destroyed by the Bakri: they looted his house and destroyed everything also as you know. There is nothing in the quran that comes directly from Muhammad as you also know, just a pathetic nothing to say sura at the back.

The Quran as you also know was a confection of Uthman much later, who made a pigs breakfast of it, burning all the other ones... He was also
murdered for his efforts, and buried also as a Jew lover and non Muslim. True isn't it ?

Muhammad today would say " wtf is this crap / some little kafir non arab wahhabi wannabe, worshipping and idolizing objects, prostrating before hubal as his lord of the Kaaba, practicing Tasweer - he is not of what I believed.
Muhammad today would say "why are all the woman dressed in penguin costumes, with face clothes and hoods on their heads, I never gave any instruction to that".. Someone would inform him that Aisha had relayed that & muhammad would share a long string of curses about Aisha & her father.
"And what of Ali I'm whom I entrusted everything"". Someone would tell him that Ali was weak & also murdered by the Bakri.
Muhhammad would say "well all is lost then, my faith was destroyed by these pagans 1,400 years ago and you are still stuck in worshipping nonsense & lies, idols and objects.. you did not follow any of what I have said".
And with that he would stomp off and try and find a Jewish temple at which to pray.
That's the truth of it isn't it MUQ ? Even Muhammad would think the whole thing is a farcical and even more corrupted apostasy and a complete nonsense.
Muhammad would defacate on Uthman's (and many others) false to show his displeasure.
And then he would urinate inside the Kaaba to show it was a toilet block (it was) and no more.
And then he would say "you stupid ignorant pagan beasts and devil worshippers, is this message clear enough for you !!"
That's what would happen MUQ.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#43535 Nov 2, 2013
European wrote:
<quoted text>
Step forward never back.
Borgs don't negotiate they only assimilate.
Not only will they not negotiate the land of Israel but they think a third of Europe is Islamic land since once they steal land it will always be Islamic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divisions_of_the...
http://www.onislam.net/english/shariah/contem...
Yep, it's an utter disappointment. As legacies go. We don't slide into bloody revolt when we don't like something, that's what separates all Non-Muslims from Muslims.

I can only think of 1.6 billion reasons!.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#43536 Nov 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Islam is same and unchanged as it was i400 years old.
Every other religion has changed much both in practice and scriptures. It is only Islam which is protected in its pristine condition.
So much so that if Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) would visit holy Makkah or Holy Madina mosque, he can straightaway lead prayers and deliver his sermon in the language he used to speak and no one will have any problem at all.
Could any one say the same thing about prophets of any other religion?
Why then written records of Islam are danger for any future generations?
You could only ever know the meaning of the Quran by not being a Muslim .
I see it clearly that the words describe a warning to future generations that the Quran is the warning as it honestly describes Islam .

Do you know when the terminology 'Martyr' first originated ?

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#43537 Nov 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Islam is same and unchanged as it was i400 years old.
Every other religion has changed much both in practice and scriptures. It is only Islam which is protected in its pristine condition.
So much so that if Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) would visit holy Makkah or Holy Madina mosque, he can straightaway lead prayers and deliver his sermon in the language he used to speak and no one will have any problem at all.
Could any one say the same thing about prophets of any other religion?
Why then written records of Islam are danger for any future generations?
It's late..

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-may-b...

http://www.worldbulletin.net/...

I personally think that most people would rather see Russia in NATO than Islamic Turkey!.

Better that than never!.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#43538 Nov 2, 2013
At $2,000 per dead Palestinian. We could get them all to suicide for a paltry $18 billion you know. Well that's according to my calculations (I may be wrong so please don't quote me).
Actual number

Australia

#43539 Nov 2, 2013
Republican Eagle wrote:
At $2,000 per dead Palestinian. We could get them all to suicide for a paltry $18 billion you know. Well that's according to my calculations (I may be wrong so please don't quote me).
The term 'Palestinian' means anyone who lived in that mandate. The term is an old one but applies to the period and area under british mandate.
The british did a very thorough census.
Encouraged & then sold out by fellow muslims, notably Hussein of Jordan but others including Saudi, the Arab palestinians were spectacularly sold out by their own. Jordan then booted them out after they caused trouble there also.
Only 80,000 Arab Palestinians actually left (the west bank) to have any valid claim they were residents at one point of what was pakestine.
Today there are only 12,380 Arab Palestinians left of that number. That's all.
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The rest are figures bandied about by various Muslim propaganda but on any fact checking -prove as false as all other Muslim claims.
Islam martyr etc

Australia

#43540 Nov 2, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
You could only ever know the meaning of the Quran by not being a Muslim .
I see it clearly that the words describe a warning to future generations that the Quran is the warning as it honestly describes Islam .
Do you know when the terminology 'Martyr' first originated ?
MUQ will struggle to answer as he lacks knowledge. Martyr is a pre-Islamic term meaning much as it does today - someone killed wrongly.
The Islamic term is 'Shaheed'(Quran 3:103 I think or thereabouts). This has much the same meaning. Jihad or determined act needs to be combined to give a 'jihad martyr' ie kill themselves to a (false) belief cause and as such they can enter an Allah heaven (only if Arab tho).
In Mr Hemphers memoirs of his definition and cultivation of the Wahhabi virus within islam using Wahhab as his agent, there is mention of creating the cult of jihad martyr's and instigation of terrorism as part of ripping Islam apart.
So we can date organized religious jihad martyrdom within islam, and later external to islam from this point. A key point mr Hempher identified within islam was how easily led the Muslims were to such fanaticism - because Islam as a confection allows and even promotes terror against others with a 'reward'.
For the wahhabi this became one of their main devices in terror against other Muslims and continues to this day.
In Iraq the Saudi Wahhabists killed 920 Iraq Shia in such 'jihad martyrdom efforts' in october.
Mr Hempher did a remarkable job in implanting the wahhabi virus within islam - and should be compared to Lenin and or such famous agents in the infiltration and corruption of people's.
sid

Brisbane, Australia

#43541 Nov 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Islam is same and unchanged as it was i400 years old.
Every other religion has changed much both in practice and scriptures. It is only Islam which is protected in its pristine condition.
So much so that if Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) would visit holy Makkah or Holy Madina mosque, he can straightaway lead prayers and deliver his sermon in the language he used to speak and no one will have any problem at all.
Could any one say the same thing about prophets of any other religion?
Why then written records of Islam are danger for any future generations?
Fortunately you can't say the same for some other religions, but for islam 1,400 years of spiritual and intellectual stagnation, 1,400 years of inbreeding resulting in genetic degradation. 1,400 years of continuous violence within and outside of islam. 1,400 years of lies, fear and hate generated by a demonstrably plagiarised, fragmented, nonsensical doctrine.

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