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MUQ origins

Sydney, Australia

#43509 Oct 30, 2013
Excerpt from Mr Hempher memoirs.

Hempher went back to London, the authorities pleased with his selection of  Abdul Wahhab. Wahhab was then introduced to certain secrets, contained in a thousand-page book that outlined deficiencies of Muslims, and prescribed ways to manipulate them:
The book states  Muslims’ weak points as follows: 
sectarian divisions,
 illiteracy,
 poor hygiene, vulnerable to disease.
 Ruled by unjust dictatorships
 Poor infrastructure
 general disorderliness
 rules of the Koran are never followed or put  into practice. 
The muslim live in near economic collapse, poverty.
There is constant retrogression and lack of unity or common good. 
The military is weak, and weapons employed are out-of-date or 
obsolete. 
Women’s right are violated.

The  book outlined how the British will undermine the Muslims’ strong points in the following methods: 
foment discord and publish literature to further incite controversies. Obstruct education,
 encourage forms otherworldliness like mystical Sufism. 
Encourage oppressiveness among emperors. 
Encourage secularism, or the need to separate religion from state affairs. 
Aggravate economic decline through sabotage. 
Accustom statesmen to such indulgences as sex, sports, alcohol, gambling, and interest banking. Then, in order to make the new generation hostile towards their rulers and scholars, expose them for their corruption..

Most  importantly, the British must introduce fanaticism amongMuslims, and then criticize Islam as a religion of terror.***!!

The means of popularizing these vices were by penetrating professions as medicine, engineering and bookkeeping. 

 Abdul Wahhab agreed to cooperate, on two stipulations : he was supported with financing and weaponry. And a principality be established in his native country of Arabia to give him a base of protection.(see House of Saud Jewish Emir).

Hempher then joined Abdul Wahhab in Najd, and Wahhab was given the obligations and instructions
• of declaring all Muslims, who did not follow him, as disbelievers, he announced  he is permitted to kill them, to seize their property, to violate their chastity, to enslave them and sell them at slave markets.
 • to discourage Muslims from obeying the Sultan in Istanbul, and provoke revolt against him. 
•to allege that all sacred sites and relics are idols, respect of them is of  apostasy, they be demolished.
 •He is to do his best to produce occasions for insulting the Prophet Muhammad, his Khalifas, prominent scholars of Madhhabs, differing schools of legal interpretation.
 Finally, his utmost to encourage insurrections, oppressions and anarchy in Muslim countries.

Muslim worshippers visited graves of holy men. Abdul Wahhab used this pretext to argue that, by asking help from someone other than God, they were  “worshipping” these dead men, and  committing an act of idolatry that caused them to forfeit Islam and become apostates. It was  permitted, he argued, to fight them. 
These were some of the pretexts used by the British, through the mouth of Wahhab to incite Arabs against their rulers and the Turks.

To be continued..

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

The Beady Slayer.

#43510 Oct 30, 2013
Muhammads last words wrote:
<quoted text>
There are warnings.
The 'written words of Islam are the 'Koran', a babble of imitative plagiarism or lies written long after muhammad. There were 18 differing versions, burnt by Uthman who wrote his own compromised version. Uthman was then murdered like Muhammad as a jew lover *also* by the Bakri, and buried in shame as a Jew. In the later many rewrites of the Quran, Muhammad only got only a small 'direct voice', a tiny sura
that says nothing.
Why is this?
Because islam is deeply ashamed of Muhammad and why they murdered him. Muhammad was
murdeed on the 4th assassination attempt.
He was poisoned by Aisha with datura, because he has shamed the Bakri by acknowledging Aisha was having sex with others, and a deeper reason : because Muhammad was trying to
progress the synthetic interim babble of moon god and other idols etc to appease the pagan tribes - to evolve it to aligned jewish ishmaelism.
But that cut the Bakri out of their religious idol and location franchise of Mecca..
So when the Bakri murdered muhammad they also destroyed all the evidence of that 'treachery' by Muhammad, & systemically killed all bloodline
or involved parties and evidence.
Uthman (after abu bakr & ali) then picked open the scab when he 'wrote' his version of events
and revealed this. That's why the Bakri murdered him also. But evidence survives.
-
We know detail about the 3 assasination attempts and the final poisoning murder of Muhammad from recorded eyewitness accounts.
We know Muhammad warned the Bakri were of the devil (Hubal Allah) and they would further corrupt islam ("turn on your heel and walk away
etc"). We know that Muhammad knew the Bakri would murder him "when I am killed etc". We know Aisha boasted of her murder of Muhammad when she got the agents to kill Uthman (" we will kill him (Uthman) like that we did that *other old Jew lover*)-*meaning Muhammad. We know in dictation to Ali, Muhammad rescinded his false about islam & the idols of the qureesh, said he
was not a prophet or a messenger & begged forgiveness from the Jews for leading the 13th tribe of Ishmaelites astray and into false worship.
That's not taught at the mosque, but is fact recorded by islam itself.
Aisha to Uthman - on the destruction of the
words and thoughts of Muhammad "they have
been eaten by a goat, Allah (the moon god of her tribe) willed it".
Muhammad and others left many messages
warning islam was just an interim transition of
paganism to a more sophisticated ideology, ie:
• Mecca (Muslims worshipped Jerusalem) & the Kaaba was not a temple of god ("can pass
thru from one door to another" - a different building with two doors back then).• That qureesh idols, objects and rituals were justthat, a bridge to evolve pagans to Judaism.
Muhammad for example said:• He would lie and so be punished with a 'split heart' by God (he died of cardiac arrest after 3 days of convulsing & white foam frenzied fits
from poisons bought in the east (datura) given to him by Aisha. All on record.
• That islam was of evil (hubal / Baal worship) and Islam was so they could learn true god (YHWH or jesus lord Christ).
• He was not a prophet or messenger and had led the Ishmaelites (Arab Jews) astray (Ali).• The Bakri (quaeesh) would murder him before his work was done, ie not a prophet able to complete gods work with gods protection at all!!• The Bakri would distort & corrupt islam -muhammad's message to all was to 'turn on your heel and walk away".
-Very few Muslims read the Quran. Even lessunderstand it. MUQ is an example of that.But it's all in the Quran or in supporting recorded history. Timebombed so that one day everyMuslim will realise what it tells them...If they were to follow the words of Muhammad - they would not believe in Islam.
The Master scribes of then Islam were very intelligent that they wrote much like the Quran is written without punctuation leading the reader into many different scenarios using the very same words .
Quran book review

Australia

#43511 Oct 30, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>The Master scribes of then Islam were very intelligent that they wrote much like the Quran is written without punctuation leading the reader into many different scenarios using the very same words .
Maybe it can be read that way but it's not by intelligent design. Any read of the Quran is always underwhelming in that it does not lead to deep or conceptual thought.
The Quran is really just an assembly of thought bubbles and fragments of jewish script plus anecdotes from a few remaining survivors year
later. None of it is organized to a coherent theme
or conclusion that is say a topic within a theme
within a macro narrative to a spiritual or ideology series of constructs.
Instead it's shallow, incomplete, stop/start, jumps around, has massive edited out gaps (satanic verses are just one bit missing) & contradictory. Where it copies the bible or Talmud it has
massive errors & inconsistencies. As the bible & Talmud & later revealed dead sea scrolls all reconcile, it proves the Quran is mistaken & deliberate lies.
-
The bulk of the quran scriptural components are
a direct lift from the book of T'ubah / later the
ishmaelite fantical anti christian book of Yusuf. This is what Muhammad was trained in when sent by the Jews to infiltrate the qureesh, before he went heretic and was corrupted by Abu Bakr (also exposed and literate in jewish beliefs).
But it's a poor copy - a 6th century Arab corrupted view given to them by the Jews as only 'partial knowledge' The Quran itself at the front
absolutely confirms this was indeed the case.
Allah & the concepts of messengers (hubal) was
very crudely imposed to keep the pagans happy but its very clear even in muhammads own brief
words that Allah was just an 'example' of a god as he attempted to lead the pagan idolatars to a more true belief. Muhammad failed at that also
and was murdered for his treachery.
So He died lost and without god / the jews rejected Muhammad's pleas for forgiveness and
Muhammad clearly never believed in the pagan
moon idols and rituals of any true god.
its an anathema to ishmaelism to believe in a moon god, 3 star daughters, a temple from an
ablutions block. Or a stone headless idol buried in a step, an antelope god swinging around inside a lamp. This was all nonsense to even
Muhammad and he said so.
The hajj was also never a Islamic ritual or any Mecca of Abraham, and the black stone inserted in the Kaaba was an example of brokering the rival qureesh pagan factions (lifted on a blanket
so all were equal..).
So i dont see any 'intelligent design' or deep
meta narritive or though pondering insights in the Quran. It's a flat shallow poorly constructed set of cut and pastes with prescriptive and rules
based minutae on whether locusts are haram to eat or not, and how to wash the feet..
Then 53,000 hadetth? are then used to spin, lie
or reinterpret to what they need to believe, rather than what it actually says with no concepts of
precedence or context.
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Uthman of course had to do something:
Muhammad had been murdered and left behind an aborted mess of beliefs. Abu Bakr then had made an ever bigger mess as caliphate with open rebellions, Ali was murdered by the qureesh and so Uthman's effort as a rushed 'selfie' and burning all the other variants was a valiant effort but he made an absolute dogs
breakfast of it all..
And remember, the qureesh then murdered Utan
as a 'jew lover' as selling them out just like Muhammad.
So the ultimate judge of how 'good a read' or 'how accurate' the Quran was - is the reaction from the target audience.
In the case of islam, the author of the Quran
Uthman was set upon and murdered and then buried in disgrace as a non Muslim. That's a fact.
-
So clearly the 'Muslims' of the day thought it was
a crap book as well.
sid

Brisbane, Australia

#43512 Oct 30, 2013
72 questions about 72 virgins
1) What if the bomber wants girls with more experience?
2) What if one virgin is no good in bed? Does she get replaced or is he stuck with 71?
3) If he's gay, does he get male virgins?
4) What if he's celibate? What does he get?
5) What if he hasn't reached puberty yet? Does he get 72 Xboxes till he comes of age?
6) If he's bi, does he get 36 of each?
7) If he blows himself up while building the bomb, does he still get credit?
8) What do you call a relationship with 72 women, a menage-a-soixante-deux?
9) Are they like 72 wives or 1 wife and 71 concubines?
10) What if he's ugly or smells bad and the virgins don't want anything to do with him?
11) Is there viagra in paradise? Ya know, just in case?
12) Is there an age of consent?
13) When they're deflowered, do they get replaced by new virgins or are they "born again"?
14) Do they become his common-law wives eventually?
15) If he has a tryst with a 73rd virgin, do the others consider it cheating?
16) Do the virgins have a union? If so, can they strike if they're not satisfied?
17) Is there a temp agency that replaces virgins if they call in sick?
18) What if the bomber's into animals? Does he get accommodated?
19) Why 72? Is 71 too few? Is 73 too many?
20) If it was a female bomber, how do the male virgins prove their virginity?
21) What happens when paradise runs out of virgins?
22) Can a bomber make reservations on specific virgins before he blows himself up?
23) If there are no virgins available, is he put on a waiting list?
24) If he's a catholic priest, does he get 72 little boys?
25) Would you call a female bomber a bombshell?
26) Would you call a child bomber a bombino?
27) Is it not 73 out of respect for Barry Bond's home run record?
28) If the bomber previously dated one of the virgins, does it get awkward?
29) Do they have a bomb squad in paradise just in case one of the charges didn't go off?
30) Did they start using female bombers because they ran out of virgins for the guys?
31) If she's a lesbian, do they "convert" the virgins, or will straight girls suffice her?
32) Does a hermaphrodite bomber get hermaphrodite virgins?
33) If so, are there 72 available?
34) If they run out of virgins, do they get inflatable dolls till they find more?
35) If a bomber finds an infidel in paradise, can he blow him up and get 72 more virgins?
36) Could the Koran have had a typo and it actually provided just one 72 year old virgin?
sid

Brisbane, Australia

#43513 Oct 30, 2013
37) Is Muslim hell being one of the 72 virgins?
38) Instead of 72 guys, would a female bomber settle for 1 man who does dishes and garbage?
39) Do the bombers go broke on Valentine's Day?
40) If he's monogamous, does he pick one of the 72 or does he get a supermodel?
41) What if he doesn't like either gender? Does he just klutz around in paradise?
42) Eternity is long, and eventually he'll grow bored of his 72 women. What happens then?
43) How does he pick the 72 to begin with? Lottery? Beauty pageant? Police lineup?
44) Is he allowed to covet his neighbor's virgins?
45) Do the virgins have agents and/or contracts?
46) If so, can a virgin request to be traded or put on waivers if she's unhappy?
47) What should he say if one of the virgins asks "Does this Burka make me look fat?"
48) If he gives the wrong answer, is he uh, screwed?
49) How is anyone expected to handle a catfight amongst 72 women?
50) Did the 9/11 hijackers who didn't know they were going to die get 72 virgins too?
51) Are scouts employed to find virgin talent?
52) Do the virgins ever retire, or do they remain virgins forever?
53) If they retire, what kind of pension plan do they get?
54) Wouldn't it be interesting if they're virgins because they're ugly?
55) So is it 72 Muslim girls or like 1 virgin from every culture?
56) Wouldn't it be sweet if Lorena Bobbit got hired as one of the virgins?
57) What does Gloria Steinem have to say about all this?
58) When he gets home, does he have to say "How was your day?" to all 72 virgins?
59) Do they have counseling for sexual addiction in paradise?
60) If the virgins start hogging the remote, is he in hell?
61) They must take up an entire theater when they go to the movies, huh?
62) Are there restaurants in paradise that can accommodate a reservation for 73?
63) If a virgin suffers from multiple personalities, is she considered two virgins?
64) Does he get all the virgins at once, or do they have an installment plan?
65) Is the bomber entitled to subsitutes, exchanges, or refunds?
66) What if all the king's horses and all the king's men can't put the bomber together again?
67) Is "not tonight, dear, I have a headache" a valid excuse in paradise?
68) Do the virgins come with a warranty?
69) If so, does paradise replace defective parts and provide on-site service?
70) What do you call a lifetime warranty if you're dead?
71) Do siamese twin bombers get 144 virgins?
72) Who gets to clean up all those nasty sheets?
Baldwin

Australia

#43514 Oct 30, 2013
MUQ origins wrote:
Excerpt from Mr Hempher memoirs.
Hempher went back to London, the authorities pleased with his selection of  Abdul Wahhab. Wahhab was then introduced to certain secrets, contained in a thousand-page book that outlined deficiencies of Muslims, and prescribed ways to manipulate them:
The book states  Muslims’ weak points as follows: 
sectarian divisions,
 illiteracy,
 poor hygiene, vulnerable to disease.
 Ruled by unjust dictatorships
 Poor infrastructure
 general disorderliness
 rules of the Koran are never followed or put  into practice. 
The muslim live in near economic collapse,
poverty.
There is constant retrogression and lack of unity or common good. 
The military is weak, and weapons employed are
out-of-date or  obsolete. 
Women’s right are violated.
The  book outlined how the British will undermine
the Muslims’ strong points in the following
methods: 
foment discord and publish literature to further
incite controversies.
Obstruct education,
 encourage forms otherworldliness like mystical Sufism. 
Encourage oppressiveness among emperors. 
Encourage secularism, or the need to separate religion from state affairs. 
Aggravate economic decline through sabotage.
Accustom statesmen to such indulgences as sex, sports, alcohol, gambling, and interest banking.
Then, in order to make the new generation hostile towards their rulers and scholars, expose
them for their corruption..
Most  importantly, the British must introduce
fanaticism amongst Muslims and then criticize
Islam as a religion of terror.***!!
The means of popularizing these vices were by 
penetrating professions as medicine, engineering and bookkeeping. 
 Abdul Wahhab agreed to cooperate, on two
stipulations : he was supported with financing and weaponry. And a principality be established
in his native country of Arabia to give him a base of protection.(see House of Saud Jewish Emir).

Hempher then joined Abdul Wahhab in Najd, and
Wahhab was given the obligations and instructions to do thus:
• declaring all Muslims, who did not follow him,
as disbelievers, he announced  he is permitted to
kill them, to seize their property, to violate their chastity, to enslave them and sell them at slave
markets.
 • to discourage Muslims from obeying the Sultan in Istanbul, and provoke revolt against him.
•to allege that all sacred sites and relics are
idols, respect of them is of  apostasy, they be
demolished.
 •He is to do his best to produce occasions for
insulting the Prophet Muhammad, his Khalifas,
prominent scholars of Madhhabs, differing schools of legal interpretation.
 Finally, his utmost to encourage insurrections,
oppressions and anarchy in Muslim countries.
Muslim worshippers visited graves of holy men.
Abdul Wahhab used this pretext to argue that, by
asking help from someone other than God, they were  “worshipping” these dead men, and  
committing an act of idolatry that caused them to
forfeit Islam and become apostates. It was  permitted, he argued, to fight them. 

These were some of the pretexts used by the
British, through the mouth of Wahhab to incite Arabs against their rulers and the Turks.
To be continued..
So the Wahhabi were a cult deliberately
designed by the British to infect islam and turn Muslim against Muslim. How clever were these British ! This book about Mr Hempher should be
compulsory reading for all muslims.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#43517 Oct 31, 2013
I wonder, Muslims have so much land and so many counties. Muslims have more than 50 odd nations. Why don't they assimilate Palestinian people in to their societies and provide them with opportunities to have good lives?
Supporting Palestinian people supports providing them with weapons & jihad only?
Karakoram

Sydney, Australia

#43518 Oct 31, 2013
Baldwin wrote:
<quoted text>
So the Wahhabi were a cult deliberately
designed by the British to infect islam and turn Muslim against Muslim. How clever were these British ! This book about Mr Hempher should be
compulsory reading for all muslims.
Interesting. C
Did Mr. Hempher partake in the pleasures of the Hajj ?
Did he also dance in pleasure with the barbarians naked as they circled their pagan gods and objects, ululating at their god the moon, as the mob fought in a frenzy to slavering to share body fluids, daubing, licking & kissing the black stone in its vulva housing ?

Did Mr. Hempher smile wryly as he thought...'we were like this once, before we were given jesus
lord christ. Now we are men, not animals like this'?
Yaanis

Wentworthville, Australia

#43519 Oct 31, 2013
Oh Dear, We must have insulted our dear Muq holiest of the holy. no comments !
Run for your chickens to feed your family
&fe ature=player_embedded pathetic to preach to us, wake up. ;)
Yaanis

Wentworthville, Australia

#43520 Oct 31, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
It is not permissible for any Muslim to touch hands or make any personal contact with any women who is not closely related to him.
He cannot even shake hand with strager Muslim females, what to say about Non Muslim females.
Same holds for Muslim ladies also.
Islam is agianst free mixes of the twwo sexes, which is the root cause of most of the social propblems we see in western world.
Hi mum did you and dad have a nice holiday with uncle Abdul ?
Yes Son !!
MUQ please explain

Sydney, Australia

#43522 Oct 31, 2013
MUQ origins wrote:
Excerpt from Mr Hempher memoirs.
Hempher went back to London, the authorities pleased with his selection of  Abdul Wahhab. Wahhab was then introduced to certain secrets, contained in a thousand-page book that outlined deficiencies of Muslims, and prescribed ways to manipulate them:
The book states  Muslims’ weak points as follows: 
sectarian divisions,
 illiteracy,
 poor hygiene, vulnerable to disease.
 Ruled by unjust dictatorships
 Poor infrastructure
 general disorderliness
 rules of the Koran never followed or practiced, 
The muslim live in economic collapse, poverty.
There is constant retrogression and lack of unity or common good. 
The military is weak, and weapons employed are out-of-date or  obsolete. 
Women’s right are violated.

The  book outlined how the British will undermine the Muslims’ strong points in the following
methods: 
foment discord and publish literature to further incite controversies.
Obstruct education,
 encourage otherworldliness like mystical Sufism. 
Encourage oppressiveness among emperors. 
Encourage secularism, or the need to separate
religion from state affairs. 
Aggravate economic decline through sabotage. 
Accustom statesmen to such indulgences as sex,
sports, alcohol, gambling, and interest banking.

Then, in order to make the new generation
hostile towards their rulers and scholars, expose them for their corruption..
Most  importantly, the British must introduce
fanaticism among Muslims and then criticize Islam as a religion of terror.(!!)
The means of popularizing these vices were by 
penetrating professions as medicine, engineering
and bookkeeping. 
 Abdul Wahhab agreed to cooperate, on two
stipulations : he was supported with financing
and weaponry. And a principality be established in his native country of Arabia to give him a base
of protection.(see House of Saud Jewish Emir).
Hempher then joined Abdul Wahhab in Najd, and Wahhab was given the obligations and
instructions
• of declaring all Muslims, who did not follow him, as disbelievers, he announced  he is permitted to
kill them, to seize their property, to violate their
chastity, to enslave them and sell them at slave markets.
 • to discourage Muslims from obeying the Sultan in Istanbul, and provoke revolt against him. 
•to allege that all sacred sites and relics are
idols, respect of them is of  apostasy, they be
demolished.
**********
 •He is to do his best to produce occasions for
insulting the Prophet Muhammad, his Khalifas,
prominent scholars of Madhhabs, differing schools of legal interpretation.
**^^^^****
 Finally, his utmost to encourage insurrections, oppressions and anarchy in Muslim countries.
Muslim worshippers visited graves of holy men.
Abdul Wahhab used this pretext to argue that, by asking help from someone other than God, they
were  “worshipping” these dead men, and  
committing an act of idolatry that caused them to forfeit Islam and become apostates. It was  
permitted, he argued, to fight them. 

These were some of the pretexts used by the British, through the mouth of Wahhab to incite
Arabs against their rulers and the Turks.
To be continued..
So the Wahhabi of Saudi DO NOT believe in
Muhammad ?(***^^***
One of the instructions given by the British when creating the virus of wahhabism to infect all Muslims, was to denigrate Muhammad and destroy his legacy and beliefs.
To take all Muslims back to Judaism ?
Because we learn also that the house of Saud were Jewish merchants from Bagdhad.
Are the Wahhabi really the enemy of all other Muslims ?
European

Marrickville, Australia

#43524 Nov 1, 2013
Republican Eagle wrote:
I wonder, Muslims have so much land and so many counties. Muslims have more than 50 odd nations. Why don't they assimilate Palestinian people in to their societies and provide them with opportunities to have good lives?
Supporting Palestinian people supports providing them with weapons & jihad only?
Step forward never back.
Borgs don't negotiate they only assimilate.

Not only will they not negotiate the land of Israel but they think a third of Europe is Islamic land since once they steal land it will always be Islamic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divisions_of_the...

http://www.onislam.net/english/shariah/contem...
Rauf lala

Ashburn, VA

#43525 Nov 1, 2013
One night, Muhammed the pedophile prophet had a dream where his angels served baby Aisha to him in aplatter of bowl.
The self acclaimed prophet did not think of helping the little girl get education or send her to nursery school.
The devil advocate thought nothing but to marry this little girl and defile her.
It is on record, muhammed defiled Aisha in a very inhumane way.
At a time, Aisha complained of chest pain because Muhammed used to press her chest and Muhammad used to thigh her they call Mufa'khatat in horrible ways when Aisha was 6.
And allah, screamed from hell fire that Muslims should emulate Muhammed.

JUST READ THIS >.>> "'O womenfolk, you should ask for forgiveness for I saw you in bulk amongst the dwellers of Hell.' A wise lady said: Why is it, Allah's Apostle, that women comprise the bulk of the inhabitants of Hell?

The Prophet observed:'You curse too much and are ungrateful to your spouses.
You lack common sense, fail in religion and rob the wisdom of the wise.' Upon this the woman remarked:
What is wrong with our common sense?

The Prophet replied,'Your lack of common sense can be determined from the fact that the evidence of two women is equal to one man. That is a proof.'"
Right from the book of destruction,Kuran.
allah screamed"""MmMm MmM mohammed is God's apostle.
Those who follow him are harsh to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29

O Muslims,how many people called Muhammad 'insane' during his time?

Wasn't that many?

the fact that you guys are sentimental about him does not mean that there shall be no freedom in the universe of human thought... everybody is free to criticize... you should grow your skin thick... it is part of 'growing up'...

screw you
Serg

Bankstown, Australia

#43526 Nov 1, 2013
http://www.skynews.com.au/world/article.aspx...

More child killing ? pathetic people.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

The Beady Slayer.

#43527 Nov 1, 2013
Yaanis wrote:
<quoted text> Hi mum did you and dad have a nice holiday with uncle Abdul ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =V84VmgQrocwXX Yes Son !!
That's one way to get rid of the rodents . lol .
MUQ re house Saud

Saint Marys, Australia

#43528 Nov 1, 2013
MUQ please explain wrote:
<quoted text>
So the Wahhabi of Saudi DO NOT believe in
Muhammad ?(***^^***
One of the instructions given by the British when creating the virus of wahhabism to infect all Muslims, was to denigrate Muhammad and destroy his legacy and beliefs.
To take all Muslims back to Judaism ?
Because we learn also that the house of Saud
were Jewish merchants from Bagdhad.
Are the Wahhabi really the enemy of all other Muslims ?
MUQ - don't you also think the Saudi royal family look Jewish ?
They have the big beaked noses and the big thick lips, the weaker chin and swarthy skin like the Arab. Stooped, long tapered fingers and the lots of asymmetry and big ears etc showing
inbreeding. But that's common to both.
But then they have that more rounded watery eye with the distinctively oriental eyefold unlike
the Arab eye which is more almond shaped.
That's a very distinctive trait. Plus they have the stoop and the hunchback and the scurfed looking balding head up in a circle from the front and top rather than the Arab pattern of hair which usually has good hair and a strong horizontal hair line.
These are traits that are very clearly non Arab. Plus of course the house of Saud have admitted it so no mystery, but that may not be public in rsa.(They have said their origins were from a Jewish family from Bagdhad and are of jewish blood).
Just look at the current saudi royal family.
If you took off all their garb, they would be quite at home and indistngushable from the other jewry lined up and putting post it notes in the cracks of the wailing wall.
-
Is wahabbism & the Saudi royal family part of a wider Jewish zionist plot perhaps MUQ ?
-
Like something out of animal farm, the elite Jews
and wahhabi are all the same, and they conspire against the jizya slaves like you to keep you in ignorance & servitude ?
Is that what is happening in islam ?
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#43529 Nov 2, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

Israeli 'Prisoner X' Took Part in Mossad Operation of Killing Hamas Operative in Dubai?

By RT

February 14, 2013 "RT" -- Another layer has been added to Israel’s ‘Prisoner X’ spy story, as new details shed light on Ben Zygier’s dealings with Mossad. An Israeli lawyer says the man – who took his own life in a jail cell – did not seem like he was at risk of suicide.

Zygier’s associations with Mossad are still cloudy, as media agencies report different accounts of his previous work with the organization.

According to Kuwaiti newspaper Al Jarida, Zygier reportedly took part in the 2010 killing of Hamas operative Mahmoud al-Mahbouh in Dubai and offered the government information about the operation in return for the United Arab Emirates’ protection.

Australia’s Fairfax Media reports that Australian security officials suspected Zygier may have been about to disclose Israeli intelligence operations – including the use of fraudulent Australian passports – to the Australian government or the media.

The Israeli government has not confirmed or denied Zygier’s association with Mossad. However, Zygier himself reportedly confided in at least two friends that he had been recruited by Mossad.

“He told me he’d just been recruited,” a friend close to Zygier told Haaretz.“I was in shock. It’s the sort of thing people usually joke about but I had no reason to doubt him at all.”

Zygier’s suicide has shed light on Mossad’s recruitment of foreign-born Jews who could spy under cover on their native passports.

Mossad has come under criticism many times for using the passports and identities of citizens of foreign countries. And despite repeated promises to stop the practices, it seems the organization is refusing to change its ways.

Just one year ago, The Times of London published two accounts of young men who had emigrated to Israel from Britain and France. During their IDF service, both men were approached by a woman who identified herself as a Mossad official who asked the gentlemen to “lend” their passports for about 18 months while they were still in the army. Once the men reclaimed their passports, they contained stamps from countries including Russia, Azerbaijan, and Turkey, Haaretz reports.

MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#43530 Nov 2, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
I am having thoughts that the written words of Islam are a warning to future generations of what Islam is .
Islam is same and unchanged as it was i400 years old.

Every other religion has changed much both in practice and scriptures. It is only Islam which is protected in its pristine condition.

So much so that if Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) would visit holy Makkah or Holy Madina mosque, he can straightaway lead prayers and deliver his sermon in the language he used to speak and no one will have any problem at all.

Could any one say the same thing about prophets of any other religion?

Why then written records of Islam are danger for any future generations?

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#43533 Nov 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Islam is same and unchanged as it was i400 years old.
Every other religion has changed much both in practice and scriptures. It is only Islam which is protected in its pristine condition.
A: in your dreams MUG.Caliph Uthman destroyed all variants of the Quran ( www.parapundit.com/archives/001519.html )– yes there were many - and banned non-Arabic translations in order to keep it pure, according to his own version of it.
When Caliph Uthman “standardised” the Quran, he destroyed all other copies than the one used by Muhammad’s widow, Hafsah; which was the basis for the “standard” version. Then, at her death, her copy was also destroyed. But sufficient records have survived to show that there were many quite significant variations.
Was Caliph Uthman a prophet?
A: No
Was he infallible, sinless and perfect?
A: No
Was his judgement unquestionable?
A:No he made mistakes and admitted them

Ask yourself carefully, and determine if you can know whether your Quran really is unchanged from what Allah gave Mohammed… Or if you have been reading false scriptures ever since the time of Caliph Uthman.
Caliph Uthman, a fallible and non-Allah led normal human, destroyed all the copies of the Quran he did not like.
End of story!!!!!!!!!!
MUQ re if Mo was around

Sydney, Australia

#43534 Nov 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Islam is same and unchanged as it was i400 years old.
Every other religion has changed much both in practice and scriptures. It is only Islam which is protected in its pristine condition.
So much so that if Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) would visit holy Makkah or Holy Madina mosque, he can straightaway lead prayers and deliver his sermon in the language he used to speak and no one will have any problem at all.
Could any one say the same thing about prophets of any other religion?
Why then written records of Islam are danger for any future generations?
Muq no, Muhammad would be very disappointed in fact and not understand that despite his many warnings, "Islam" became a corruption of the Bakri and did not follow the path he said.
He had said (that when the Bakri murder him & that they would try to corrupt islam "turn on your heel and walk away" but the weak pagan Muslims did not.
Muhammad never dictated a Quran as you know.
'his prayers' and intent was destroyed by the Bakri: they looted his house and destroyed everything also as you know. There is nothing in the quran that comes directly from Muhammad as you also know, just a pathetic nothing to say sura at the back.

The Quran as you also know was a confection of Uthman much later, who made a pigs breakfast of it, burning all the other ones... He was also
murdered for his efforts, and buried also as a Jew lover and non Muslim. True isn't it ?

Muhammad today would say " wtf is this crap / some little kafir non arab wahhabi wannabe, worshipping and idolizing objects, prostrating before hubal as his lord of the Kaaba, practicing Tasweer - he is not of what I believed.
Muhammad today would say "why are all the woman dressed in penguin costumes, with face clothes and hoods on their heads, I never gave any instruction to that".. Someone would inform him that Aisha had relayed that & muhammad would share a long string of curses about Aisha & her father.
"And what of Ali I'm whom I entrusted everything"". Someone would tell him that Ali was weak & also murdered by the Bakri.
Muhhammad would say "well all is lost then, my faith was destroyed by these pagans 1,400 years ago and you are still stuck in worshipping nonsense & lies, idols and objects.. you did not follow any of what I have said".
And with that he would stomp off and try and find a Jewish temple at which to pray.
That's the truth of it isn't it MUQ ? Even Muhammad would think the whole thing is a farcical and even more corrupted apostasy and a complete nonsense.
Muhammad would defacate on Uthman's (and many others) false to show his displeasure.
And then he would urinate inside the Kaaba to show it was a toilet block (it was) and no more.
And then he would say "you stupid ignorant pagan beasts and devil worshippers, is this message clear enough for you !!"
That's what would happen MUQ.

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