Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46752 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#43341 Oct 20, 2013
Semiti Qalovasa wrote:
aussie chixs like muslim meat..period
In your dreams only. Most Australians can't stand them and despise their lack of hygiene and the fact they tend to smell so much
sid

Chermside, Australia

#43342 Oct 20, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Just count how many Anti Islamic posts have been posted on threads of Topix itself.
Why you have doubt that more than 60,000 books have been written against Islam in West during last 150 years?
You are a complete fcuking idiot, 60,000 anti islam book, absolute bullshit,
60,000 divided by 365 equals one book a day for the last 164 years.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#43344 Oct 20, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Just count how many Anti Islamic posts have been posted on threads of Topix itself.
Why you have doubt that more than 60,000 books have been written against Islam in West during last 150 years?
Topix posts are not books MUQ ,check the internet and ye shall find many Muslim's writing their version of the history of Islam.
As you have repeated that the Quran is so perfect why would there need to be another book ,well then why do we need to see so many verse of Islam on sale by Muslims ?

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#43345 Oct 20, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
No one Quoted exactly what Burton wrote, let us have some "verbatim" from his book.
Then we will see and tell you "How true and how unbiased" was he. How can you pass judgment, with only one sided report?
Read again what he spoke of in his unbiased assessment of what he experienced.
You mentioned before of colonialism ,at that time was it not the Ottoman Empire ?
Hajj date back then

Homebush, Australia

#43347 Oct 20, 2013
Eyewitness wrote:
Just on the kaaba at Mecca..
An englishman called Richard Francis Burton went to Mecca in 1853 and described the many fetishes and pagan idol worship of the Muslims.
He took photo's and drew maps and recorded the scenes in a book.
He managed to get inside the kaaba building itself and wrote this in his book (excerpt :)
(Burton had returned to Mecca about a week
later and was able to actually enter the Kaaba) ;
He writes : "a crowd stood gathered round the Ka'abah, and I having no wish to stand bareheaded and barefooted in the midday September sun.
At the cry of 'Open a path for the Haji (pilgrim) who would enter the House!' the gazers made
way. Two stout Meccans, who stood below the
door raised me in their arms, whilst a third drew me from the mob up onto the building.
At the entrance I was accosted by several
officials, dark-looking Meccans, of whom the
blackest and plainest was a youth of the,Ben!l Shaybah family, the true blood of the EI Hejaz..
He held in his hand the huge silver-gilt padlock o fthe Ka'abah, and presently, taking his seat upon a kind of wooden press in the left corner of the hall, he officially inquired my name, nation, and
other particulars.
The replies were satisfactory, and the boy
Mohammed was authoritatively ordered to conduct me around inside the building, and to
recite the prayers.
I will not deny that, looking at the windowless walls, the officials at the door, and a crowd of excited pagan fanatics below, the woman
touching themselves intimately and openly daubing that on the stone apparently now made black from such application. And the men were then set to a frenzy, touching and sniffing and
even licking or kissing the stone for the scent thus rendered, indeed it was like animals being
put to breed.
Inside the building were many idols now remade
into various plates or lamps, and much emphasis
on the moon and the star offspring of their A'llah. Outside the slavering mob rose and fell in a heaving waves to a deafening din as the
pilgrims, men and women both fought to moisten or touch and slaver and smell the stone.
I had early kissed the stone the previous week as the ritual befits, but now with much regret
when i realised it's real purpose and lack of sanitation afforded to anyone in contact with it.
My feelings were that any blunder, a hasty
action, a misjudged word, a prayer or bow, not strictly the right shibboleth, and my bones would have whitened the desert sand. This did not,
however, prevent my carefully observing the scenes and objects confined inside the building
during our long prayer, and making a rough plan with a pencil upon my white ihram."

The book also has a description of the Mekka sex rituals and also sacrifice being made to the other idols of Allah that are part of the pilgrimage.
Very interesting as Burton was sent in to develop relationships with the Arabs so he has no bias and just writes what he observes. The British did liberate them from the corrupted Ottoman Turkish Caliphate / that is the creation of Saudi if you know the history. Egypt's Muhammad-Ah had
also broken away from Turkish control so if anything it was the Turks that disapproved of Arab custom and the pagan sex rituals at the hajj and the English just accepted it. Lets face it, a crowd of Muslims going in circles around a black stone, kissing, touching and moistening it and having sex in the open, as well as praying to it in such a fetish is bizarre but the truth of islam.
Interesting that he says it was under the September sun before he went inside the Kaaba.
Now the ritual is the October moon. Was it a different calendar for the hajj back then ?
Allah Akbar

Homebush, Australia

#43348 Oct 20, 2013
Do the Muslims do this in their mosques as well?
Do do they have a picture or idol of the black stone, and then parade around it and indulge in such animal rituals as well? We know that all Muslims are trained to lie about such things, so has anyone any 'under cover video' of this.

I heard also that animal sacrifice 'to Allah' is becoming very common, often in public places or
backyards with hordes of Muslims butchering and torturing the animal, as they beat and slash it they even invoke the name of Jesus whom they despise and disparage even in the Quran (sura 4 : 153/157 - go read it) and then all Christians as hated enemies,. Then they tell the dying animal
that Allah is a greater god) thanJesus! now it must die as sacrifice to Allah (as if an animal
even knows this or can understand)..
-
They scream out "bismillah" (in the name of Allah our pagan diety of evil & all he represents
preamble etc) "Allahu Akbar " (Allah our diety is a greater god than your god so now you die and I sacrifice you to this pagan diety). The blood of the animal is devoted to Allah in this ceremony.
Note the deceit of the Muslims when they claim this is just praying for the animal's well being before they kill it. That is all lies.
-
'Allah' is not the Arabic word for 'God,' that word is 'ilah' and clearly spelt and pronounced
differently,'Allah' instead is a noun and the name of Islam's chosen deity along with Manat, Lat & Al-Uzzah the moon god star daughters that are
part of the Allah god grouping. Proof ? Any Islamic flag or symbol always has these gods of Allah worshipped. Allah the moon god controller
of evil & darkness, and his 3 daughter the stars as the offspring of his union with the Sun.

'Akbar' does not mean 'great,' but 'greater than'.
Greater than what? The answer is, Allah is greater... than whatever god you happen to
believe in. Even if your a sheep or a goat!!
This is odd stuff indeed.
-
Also can someone please post the video links
of the Muslims at Mecca fingering and kissing and licking the stone so the 'non believers' like MUQ can see for himself they do this today.
-
Muslims = devil worshippers fetishing a pagan rock and idols.
There is no Jehovah or true god in their place or their souls, they are the devils spawn, with Baal at the centre of their idolatry and inside them.
MUQ stats

Homebush, Australia

#43349 Oct 21, 2013
Just out of interest for the regulars on this thread.
MUQ has been told he is lying, committing Taqiyya & Shirk if not Kitman, well as blatant Tasweer on this one thread 863 times !
That's quite a statistical record there MUQ..
Remember Topix never archives so like the stains on your soul - Allah will judge you.
And there has even been a complaint to Allah & he responded!
Allaaha Cust ref | Mar 1, 2013
Chabrol wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks Allah,
We seem to have trouble in getting correct and
factual answers about you and Islam.
Unfortunately a rogue indian posturing as a Muslim who is over practicing Taqiyya and thus greatly defiling and debasing Islam.
Can you take corrective action (the most severe punishment i believe is in order) and have our
requests about you and Islam put thru to a more
skilled and Arabic operative ?
Thanks.
----------
Yes Chabrol, I have investigated this and what you say is most valid.
I will deal with the team member at prayers today, he will receive retraining in correct Islam.
We most sincerely apologize for the inconvenience and we will attempt to find a
proper Arab English speaking person more
knowledgeable in Islam to provide the correct answers to your questions.
That is a difficult issue for us as we have very
few operatives that actually understand Islam now left to provide the service & support. The belief system was in fact obsolete in 930ad - but sir, we will do our best and keep you posted as to who will be assigned to this thread.
We wish to provide excellent service and make
you a delighted consumer of Islam, so again we
hope you accept our apology and that we have taken your input as part of our obligation to improve our service quality to you.
Your servant and also of the lord of the Kaaba
Allah ,,,(..),
" Allah knows best"
----------
Obviously service levels since remain poor...
=>MUQ can you talk to your supervisor Allah and see if some training and support can be provided to you to improve the quality of service of truthful
answers about islam to the non believers.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#43350 Oct 21, 2013
Hajj date back then wrote:
<quoted text>
Very interesting as Burton was sent in to develop relationships with the Arabs so he has no bias and just writes what he observes. The British did liberate them from the corrupted Ottoman Turkish Caliphate / that is the creation of Saudi if you know the history. Egypt's Muhammad-Ah had
also broken away from Turkish control so if anything it was the Turks that disapproved of Arab custom and the pagan sex rituals at the hajj and the English just accepted it. Lets face it, a crowd of Muslims going in circles around a black stone, kissing, touching and moistening it and having sex in the open, as well as praying to it in such a fetish is bizarre but the truth of islam.
Interesting that he says it was under the September sun before he went inside the Kaaba.
Now the ritual is the October moon. Was it a different calendar for the hajj back then ?
Very good point you make about the month of the Hajj .

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#43352 Oct 21, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Just count how many Anti Islamic posts have been posted on threads of Topix itself.
Why you have doubt that more than 60,000 books have been written against Islam in West during last 150 years?
MUQ, go to the index on Topix and read for yourself the listing of posts against Australians .
rocksolid

Wollongong, Australia

#43354 Oct 21, 2013
Yes great, http://www.vancouversun.com/news/bomb+assault... try to keep the numbers up High you backward fools. This is why we don't like you Child Killers.

Mores please.
Tracy

Wollongong, Australia

#43355 Oct 21, 2013
Semiti Qalovasa wrote:
aussie chixs like muslim meat..period
Your right us Australian women, can't wait to be in their arms,

http://peacemoonbeam.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8345...

That breath when their Screaming is so irresistible.
Chris

Wollongong, Australia

#43356 Oct 21, 2013
Tracy they are screaming more More MORE Look at the picture in the book hes holding http://plancksconstant.org/blog1/image3/sexy-... Ok Heres more http://p9.storage.canalblog.com/91/67/299217/...

Now go and have a Day Of Rage its been a while since you lot have gone BERSERK.
Ritaea

Wareemba, Australia

#43357 Oct 21, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
When we see people lying about Islam in this our age of 2013, how we can say that this Richard Burton did not tell and invent lies when he "fraudulently visited Makkah in 1853".
When we see misconception about Islam and distorting of its teachings, right before our eyes in 2013, how can we assume that this Burton was "Symbol of truth" in 1853?
What is Hajj and what are its rituals have
remained unchanged since the days of our prophet, I do not know what was the "fetish and pagan rituals" that were in force in 1853 and have been removed now.
And they say that by reading such books, I will come to know the truth and leave Islam, I who have myslef visited Makkah so many times and took part in Hajj and Umrah rituals,!!
Why only Burton'? There are more than 60,000 Anti Islamic books written in Western countries against Islam.
That shows their FEAR, their REAL FEAR about
Islam.
Why would they write so many books against it, if they were not afraid from it?
Muq are you sayinh that what Muslims did in 1853 in Mecca around the black stone in the haj ritual is different ?
And regarding this comment from you. "I who have myslef visited Makkah so many times and took part in Hajj and Umrah rituals,!!"
Why exactly do you kiss the stone or throw your hand out to the black stone ? What are you thinking when you do this ?

“Fight For Democracy in Tonga!!”

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#43358 Oct 21, 2013
Hajj date back then wrote:
<quoted text>
Very interesting as Burton was sent in to develop relationships with the Arabs so he has no bias and just writes what he observes. The British did liberate them from the corrupted Ottoman Turkish Caliphate / that is the creation of Saudi if you know the history. Egypt's Muhammad-Ah had
also broken away from Turkish control so if anything it was the Turks that disapproved of Arab custom and the pagan sex rituals at the hajj and the English just accepted it. Lets face it, a crowd of Muslims going in circles around a black stone, kissing, touching and moistening it and having sex in the open, as well as praying to it in such a fetish is bizarre but the truth of islam.
Interesting that he says it was under the September sun before he went inside the Kaaba.
Now the ritual is the October moon. Was it a different calendar for the hajj back then ?
RFB WAS AN IRISHMAN

Since: Oct 13

Adelaide, Australia

#43359 Oct 21, 2013
Interesting that he says it was under the September sun before he went inside the Kaaba.
Now the ritual is the October moon. Was it a different calendar for the hajj back then ?

The seasons have moved slightly from then to now so this could be the reason for the change in the time frame. As the religion has a strong affiliation with the moon it has probably got to do with the timing of the moons location. At the end of the day, they still worship what is considered to be pagan idols. Not that it by its self is wrong, there are other aspects to the religious practice that are not socially accepted in western culture.If it remained within Islamic countries, it is now the present in western civilization that is the issue of fear.
Burton father of Wahabhi

Bardwell Valley, Australia

#43360 Oct 22, 2013
boruone77 wrote:
<quoted text>
RFB WAS AN IRISHMAN
Would be now. But back then, he & Ireland was part of Britain. He worked for the british east India company and part of his task in going to mekkah was to understand, document & connect to the locals to gain intelligence about them as an ally against the turks & ottoman empire.
The British developed alliances with the swamp Arabs (mesopotima or Iraq which they later invaded and colonized 1917-1922) and also later Hussein the mekkan shariff (Egypt office) as well as an obscure tribe of El bin Saud - who the rival
british indian office cultivated a radical form of islam for - this was based on Salafism
(recidivsm, like say Islamic aimish) but the British got a jew in and he flavored in Zionism (religious facist imperialism) to 'manufacture' Wahabbism
which was cultivated like a virus / to break the Turkish ottoman caliphate by creating Islamic radicalism.
So the british Egypt office (Lawrence later) & the british india office (Burton then much later philby) spent much effort infiltrating & subjugating the Arabs to be colonies of the west.
One driver of all this was the Indian mutiny and then the issue of Indian mussellman (Muslims) and indian Hindu tension. The grand plan by the
british way back in the mid to late 1800's was to resettle all the Indian Muslims into mesopotima (Iraq) or even further west as loyal subjects as well as break turkey and also prevent Russia from colonizing turkey or the middle east by surrounding it with a string of british aligned buffer states. They largely succeeded - Saudi has been a colony of the British then USA for 90
years, Pakistan (created same as israel) is also a USA colony now.
So Burton's work in observing & documenting
the pagan Muslims was very instrumental in exploiting them later, by amplifying the splits with Islam and creating the rabid fantanical Wahhabi paganist variant (state of Saudi) as 'third element' designed to destroy Islam front within.
Wahhabi did not exist until the British & Jews
invented it for the Arabs - and some is based on Burtons findings about their depraved cults and rituals. Wahabbism was given to them so they
had the excuse to betray their turkish islamic masters. Just like muhammad who invented islam as an excuse to betray his jewish masters.
So wahabbism is the Jews revenge,,, on Muhammad.. And so say all non wahhabi
muslims too, who understand it's origins.
Black stone idolatry

Bardwell Valley, Australia

#43361 Oct 22, 2013
Ritaea wrote:
<quoted text>
Muq are you sayinh that what Muslims did in 1853 in Mecca around the black stone in the haj ritual is different ?
And regarding this comment from you. "I who have myslef visited Makkah so many times and took part in Hajj and Umrah rituals,!!"
Why exactly do you kiss the stone or throw your hand out to the black stone ? What are you thinking when you do this ?
Muhammad kissed the stone (Omar), and there are terse exchanges recorded in islam about those who 'linger'(ie sniffing & licking it for the taste and smell of woman's body fluids)..
Note : the Mecca silver vulva housing the black stone does not have a clitoris, the hadeeth use this as 'evidence' to support female circumcision or removal of all of the woman's clitoris.
Many Muslims - especially Indians who are really into object & idol worship, regard the black stone
as 'the right hand of god, his symbol on earth'.
So a handful of fake gravel, in resin, mounted in a sex object, stuck in the wall of an old ablutions
block used to house idols,,, this is what 1.3 billion bow and pray to 5 times a day....
I don't think the west fear moon god vulva
worshippers......, rather they are an object of curiosity and our pity.
alfie

Cammeray, Australia

#43362 Oct 22, 2013
In 1674, according to Johann Ludwig Burckhardt, someone smeared the Black Stone with excrement so that "every one who kissed it retired with a sullied beard". The Shi'ite Persians were suspected of being responsible and were the target of curses from other Muslims for centuries afterwards, though explorer Sir Richard Francis Burton doubted that they were the culprits; he attributed the act to "some Jew or Greek, who risked his life to gratify a furious bigotry."[16]
Ha ha, well done to the wag who smeared crap on it so the Muslims got crap on themselves.
A recent (2004) scientific analysis of the Wabar site suggests that the impact event happened much more recently than first thought and might have occurred only within the last 200300 years.[29] The meteoritic hypothesis is now seen as doubtful, and the British Natural History Museum suggests that it may be a pseudometeorite, i.e., a terrestrial rock mistakenly attributed to a meteoritic origin.[30]
It's a terrestrial rock! If this isn't idol worship, what is!!!!

Muslim pilgrims circle the Kaaba as part of the Tawaf ritual of the Hajj. Many of them try, if possible, to stop and kiss the Black Stone, emulating the kiss that Islamic tradition records that it received from Muhammad.[3] If they cannot reach it, they point to it on each of their seven circuits around the Kaaba.
God will defeat islam

Sydney, Australia

#43363 Oct 22, 2013
All Muslims are guilty of idol worship.
It sits oddly that Hubal (the stone idol of Allah the moon god) is buried with the outside step of the kaaba.
It also sits oddly that the Muslims worship and fetish the moon and his alter ego of the 3 star dauhters of the Allah god group (Allah is a composite god..)
It sits oddly that the black stone is the right hand of a Muslim god and the stone will decide in Islamic judgement day who has kissed it or not.
It sits oddly that the relics of other idols were melted down and cast as plates or lamps and these are proudly displayed inside the Kaaba.
None of this is of momotheism or Abraham.
And we know the Allah was an invented god, copied of Sin the god of darkness, who in turn was copied of Baal - the enemy of yahweh or the Jewish talmudic god.
And we know the kaaba was not even built until 460 AD, with detailed records of it's first construction and even where it's roof came from.
Islam is blatant pagan nature & idol worship, hidden in a wrapper of lies and falsehood.
No Muslim is of any god we can share.
They are of baal who is of the devil in both Judaism & Christianity.

We should respect Muslims as 'believers'.
They believe in idols & follow rituals of the devil.
We do not fear muslims. God will always overcome the devil and his muslim followers.

“Fight For Democracy in Tonga!!”

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#43365 Oct 22, 2013
Burton father of Wahabhi wrote:
<quoted text>
Would be now. But back then, he & Ireland was part of Britain. He worked for the british east India company and part of his task in going to mekkah was to understand, document & connect to the locals to gain intelligence about them as an ally against the turks & ottoman empire.
The British developed alliances with the swamp Arabs (mesopotima or Iraq which they later invaded and colonized 1917-1922) and also later Hussein the mekkan shariff (Egypt office) as well as an obscure tribe of El bin Saud - who the rival
british indian office cultivated a radical form of islam for - this was based on Salafism
(recidivsm, like say Islamic aimish) but the British got a jew in and he flavored in Zionism (religious facist imperialism) to 'manufacture' Wahabbism
which was cultivated like a virus / to break the Turkish ottoman caliphate by creating Islamic radicalism.
So the british Egypt office (Lawrence later) & the british india office (Burton then much later philby) spent much effort infiltrating & subjugating the Arabs to be colonies of the west.
One driver of all this was the Indian mutiny and then the issue of Indian mussellman (Muslims) and indian Hindu tension. The grand plan by the
british way back in the mid to late 1800's was to resettle all the Indian Muslims into mesopotima (Iraq) or even further west as loyal subjects as well as break turkey and also prevent Russia from colonizing turkey or the middle east by surrounding it with a string of british aligned buffer states. They largely succeeded - Saudi has been a colony of the British then USA for 90
years, Pakistan (created same as israel) is also a USA colony now.
So Burton's work in observing & documenting
the pagan Muslims was very instrumental in exploiting them later, by amplifying the splits with Islam and creating the rabid fantanical Wahhabi paganist variant (state of Saudi) as 'third element' designed to destroy Islam front within.
Wahhabi did not exist until the British & Jews
invented it for the Arabs - and some is based on Burtons findings about their depraved cults and rituals. Wahabbism was given to them so they
had the excuse to betray their turkish islamic masters. Just like muhammad who invented islam as an excuse to betray his jewish masters.
So wahabbism is the Jews revenge,,, on Muhammad.. And so say all non wahhabi
muslims too, who understand it's origins.
if we are splitting hairs about whether Richard Burton was an Englishman or an Irishman, he was certainly an Irishman, he may have been British, but he certainly wasn't an Englishman

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