Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46752 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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Tiberias

Winston Hills, Australia

#43239 Oct 16, 2013
MUQ are you going for a swim while in India
?
Rauf lala

Ashburn, VA

#43240 Oct 16, 2013
Fagina wrote:
<quoted text> How is Bhopal India going https://www.google.com.au/search... at the moment ? having a nice time .
Hi Vagina......he he he!!!

Are you loose or tight?
MUQ

Indore, India

#43241 Oct 16, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
All written down by someone else other than who witnessed an angel .
Dictated by the prophet who saw the angel. It does not matter how much you try to juggle round the words, you cannot hide the truth.

The Prophet was the Key figure and the Revelations was another key figure.

And third was the challenge for any one and every one who is in doubt, if the prophet concocted it himself, to bring another book like it.

If after all that people want to live in doubt, well, they are entitled to live in a life of doubt and die in the same status of doubt.

There is no cure for such people.
Aussie

Santa Rosa, CA

#43243 Oct 16, 2013
You're invading our lands, what's so hard to figure out about that, MUQ the retard?

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#43244 Oct 16, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Dictated by the prophet who saw the angel. It does not matter how much you try to juggle round the words, you cannot hide the truth.
The Prophet was the Key figure and the Revelations was another key figure.
And third was the challenge for any one and every one who is in doubt, if the prophet concocted it himself, to bring another book like it.
If after all that people want to live in doubt, well, they are entitled to live in a life of doubt and die in the same status of doubt.
There is no cure for such people.
It has been proven by Islams own history that the third Caliph made a book for all Muslims to recite so neither you or I have any idea what Muhammad actually said .

Since: Oct 13

Bedfordale, Australia

#43245 Oct 16, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
There is only one religion for humankind in this world and that in Arabic is called Islam.
It means to surrender one self to your Creator. That is the religion which was sent to all nations and all ages.
As there are no gods or no creators in the universe, except one True God and Creator, in the same way there are "no religions" in the world except one True religion.
Now I have given you my outline for God made religion, let us hear from you.
My purpose on visiting these threads is to tell people about True Islam and True Islamic teachings and answer queries and doubts about Islam which people have.
My expereince is that people have very little and superficial knowledge about Islam. Most of their info is based on hearsay and picked up either from Media or Anti Islamic sites.
Media is under control of Jews and Zionists in most countries and they try to portrate Islam and Muslims in the blackest of colors.
Ok, thank you for your expansion on the question.
"God made religion"
Firstly it is my opinion and it was created by information that I have read, heard and believe to be true or substantiated by fact. There is room for error and I am open to any information that may alter my stance on any issue. Please comment on any statement that follows. It will not cause offence.
1.The religion "Islam" is a belief system that was created by the writings of a Human being named Mohammad.

2.Mohammad was called a prophet.

3.The writings of this Prophet form the foundation of the varying groups that are named Muslims.

4.These factions of Muslims, have been created by different interpretation of the writings.
Lets go with this first, A step by step process.
infidel fixer

Wiley Park, Australia

#43246 Oct 16, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
It has been proven by Islams own history that the third Caliph made a book for all Muslims to recite so neither you or I have any idea what Muhammad actually said .
Proven by who? you criminal murderers.LLOL, your credibility is less than the pigs you eat....LLOL,
Your problem is that you come from murderous oil addicted thieves who are going through last throes of death-knell,(A death knell is the ringing of a bell to announce death, tolling the bell) a final nail in your satanic leaders coffin has already peen put in SYRIA, you will be tried as criminals who have long list of crimes against humanity, not to mention theft, rape, pillage,plunder, murder, killing women and children,

But your biggest failure is that you picked up a fight with muslims who come from a historic culture of war and martyrdom and that was your undoing, it took the muslims less than twenty years to completely unravel you entire criminal system, I will not call it a civilisation, but wait, more kicks on your arse is on way..LLOL,LLOL,LLOL......

Your second problem is you are cowards who had no clue of Islam's long illustrious history of defeating enemies, even the un-defeatable savage mongols were converted to islam who subsequently ruled india for a thousand years as Moguls,...now again Muslims have beaten the shite out of you in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, we muslims have long known that no one walks away from our countries with their Balls intact...LLOL,LLOL, from now on its nose dive for you criminals all the way to hell to meet your leader "satan"..........LLO L,LLOL, you should rename yourself Nevillejew'sbitch.....LLOL

Islam will remain intact and prosper and continue to expand until every living being will be converted to Islam or pay Jazia tax as is the requirement under Islamic law, that is the ultimate aim of the people of Mohammed (peace and blessing be upon him), Do you think a pigmuncher like you can teach us about our own religion, LLOL,LLOL when we well know you pigmunchers can't spell history...LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, you have proven yourself to be more stupid than the tattooed Bogans around...,

“REFUSE ALL IMITATIONS!!”

Since: Jan 11

Australia

#43247 Oct 16, 2013
infidel fixer wrote:
<quoted text>
Proven by who? you criminal murderers.LLOL, your credibility is less than the pigs you eat....LLOL,
Your problem is that you come from murderous oil addicted thieves who are going through last throes of death-knell,(A death knell is the ringing of a bell to announce death, tolling the bell) a final nail in your satanic leaders coffin has already peen put in SYRIA, you will be tried as criminals who have long list of crimes against humanity, not to mention theft, rape, pillage,plunder, murder, killing women and children,
But your biggest failure is that you picked up a fight with muslims who come from a historic culture of war and martyrdom and that was your undoing, it took the muslims less than twenty years to completely unravel you entire criminal system, I will not call it a civilisation, but wait, more kicks on your arse is on way..LLOL,LLOL,LLOL......
Your second problem is you are cowards who had no clue of Islam's long illustrious history of defeating enemies, even the un-defeatable savage mongols were converted to islam who subsequently ruled india for a thousand years as Moguls,...now again Muslims have beaten the shite out of you in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, we muslims have long known that no one walks away from our countries with their Balls intact...LLOL,LLOL, from now on its nose dive for you criminals all the way to hell to meet your leader "satan"..........LLO L,LLOL, you should rename yourself Nevillejew'sbitch.....LLOL
Islam will remain intact and prosper and continue to expand until every living being will be converted to Islam or pay Jazia tax as is the requirement under Islamic law, that is the ultimate aim of the people of Mohammed (peace and blessing be upon him), Do you think a pigmuncher like you can teach us about our own religion, LLOL,LLOL when we well know you pigmunchers can't spell history...LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, you have proven yourself to be more stupid than the tattooed Bogans around...,
Any reasonable person could be forgiven for perceiving your rant as a 'false flag' attack to discredit Islam and Muslims even further ... if that's even possible.

Keep up the good work!:)
infidel fixer

Wiley Park, Australia

#43248 Oct 16, 2013
The ADELAIDEAN wrote:
<quoted text>
Any reasonable person could be forgiven for perceiving your rant as a 'false flag' attack to discredit Islam and Muslims even further ... if that's even possible.
Keep up the good work!:)
You are the same looser who gets kicked around by every TOPIX poster on several forums, you're stupidity and ignorance is proverbial on TOPIX at least, LLOL,LLOL,LLOL. What can one expect from shit name like ADELAIDEAN? country peasant I guess.....and yes I do intend to keep up the good work for Islam and Muslims.
rocksolid

Sydney, Australia

#43249 Oct 16, 2013
infidel fixer wrote:
<quoted text>
Proven by who? you criminal murderers.LLOL, your credibility is less than the pigs you eat....LLOL,
Your problem is that you come from murderous oil addicted thieves who are going through last throes of death-knell,(A death knell is the ringing of a bell to announce death, tolling the bell) a final nail in your satanic leaders coffin has already peen put in SYRIA, you will be tried as criminals who have long list of crimes against humanity, not to mention theft, rape, pillage,plunder, murder, killing women and children,
But your biggest failure is that you picked up a fight with muslims who come from a historic culture of war and martyrdom and that was your undoing, it took the muslims less than twenty years to completely unravel you entire criminal system, I will not call it a civilisation, but wait, more kicks on your arse is on way..LLOL,LLOL,LLOL......
Your second problem is you are cowards who had no clue of Islam's long illustrious history of defeating enemies, even the un-defeatable savage mongols were converted to islam who subsequently ruled india for a thousand years as Moguls,...now again Muslims have beaten the shite out of you in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, we muslims have long known that no one walks away from our countries with their Balls intact...LLOL,LLOL, from now on its nose dive for you criminals all the way to hell to meet your leader "satan"..........LLO L,LLOL, you should rename yourself Nevillejew'sbitch.....LLOL
Islam will remain intact and prosper and continue to expand until every living being will be converted to Islam or pay Jazia tax as is the requirement under Islamic law, that is the ultimate aim of the people of Mohammed (peace and blessing be upon him), Do you think a pigmuncher like you can teach us about our own religion, LLOL,LLOL when we well know you pigmunchers can't spell history...LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, you have proven yourself to be more stupid than the tattooed Bogans around...,
This Muslim dog is suffering from verbal dyheria BARK, BARK,BARK,BARK, how much can a Dog BARK before he gets throat cancer, BARK,BARK,BARK, same old boring crap BARK, BARK not an iota of truth or vaguest of common sense, just BARK, BARK,BARK, BARK, his mum is desperate for clients to support this gay dogs drug habits and all he can do is BARK, BARK, BARK, he should put his BARKING energy in his pimping profession, that way mama gets clients and he gets the joints, LOL,LOL,LOL, and we get rid of this pimp doggy and everybody is happy
infidel fixer

Wiley Park, Australia

#43250 Oct 16, 2013
rocksolid wrote:
<quoted text>
This Muslim dog is suffering from verbal dyheria BARK, BARK,BARK,BARK, how much can a Dog BARK before he gets throat cancer, BARK,BARK,BARK, same old boring crap BARK, BARK not an iota of truth or vaguest of common sense, just BARK, BARK,BARK, BARK, his mum is desperate for clients to support this gay dogs drug habits and all he can do is BARK, BARK, BARK, he should put his BARKING energy in his pimping profession, that way mama gets clients and he gets the joints, LOL,LOL,LOL, and we get rid of this pimp doggy and everybody is happy
LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, Bogan Barks LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, Bogans arse on Fire...LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,
MUQ wrong again

Camperdown, Australia

#43251 Oct 16, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Dictated by the prophet who saw the angel. It does not matter how much you try to juggle round the words, you cannot hide the truth.
The Prophet was the Key figure and the Revelations was another key figure.
And third was the challenge for any one and every one who is in doubt, if the prophet concocted it himself, to bring another book like it.
If after all that people want to live in doubt, well,
they are entitled to live in a life of doubt and die in the same status of doubt.
There is no cure for such people.
MUQ - this is more lies and your own Islamic history & the Quran proves it a lie.
Do you believe in Islam & the Quran, or your own version of falsehood?
Muhammad never was approached by 'god'.
It was via an angel in a cave - and if you actually read the Quran the 'angel' is Abu Bakr (who he went into the cave with)'channelling' an angel who in turn 'channeled''god'.
Now Abu Bakr was an educated man very familiar with the jewish faith & god beliefs. He also despised the stone idol gods of Mecca claiming they were pagan and old fashioned.
So the 'god' Abu Bakr gave Muhammad - copying the well trodden John the baptist route
in fact was a Jewish god.
Now Allah at this point was a moon (Allah) & star gods grouping (Manat, Lat, Al-Uzzah) with Hubal his earthly stone messenger (via divinity arrows & dials on the idols chest).
Muhammad then synthesized Allah as the Arab god into the Jewish variant of ishmaelism. To appease the Arabs and bridge them into eventual monotheism.. But Allah remained an idol pagan god group of 4 deities and still is today.
Muhammad then tried later to progress islam to a more pure Judaistic variant and was assassinated by poison - by Aisha of the Bakri when he tried to treacherously double cross Abu Bakr and Aisha of their claim of Islam (when he developed Ali as an alternative heir & Jewish alignment. Ali was also killed & descendants.
Muhammad never wrote or dictated anything in
the Quran. There were at least 18 versions of events all partial & conflicting. Aisha & Abu Bakr destroyed all of what Muhammad did dictate or had wanted to say (these were eaten by a goat :'allah wills this' Aisha)
Long after Muhammad died Uthman then wrote his attempt at events but it was wrong as many had died or had conflicting memories. Uthman then BURNT all the other versions or scraps of events, but Aisha still had her own Quran proclaiming she was allah's true messenger & Muhammad was a Jew lover they proudly murdered because of his treachery.
Uthman was then murdered also by the Bakri 'that other old Jew lover (meaning like Muhammad) and they buried him in a jewish graveyard refusing that he was not Muslim either.
Even this Uthman Quran does exist - it's not until over a century later the first Quran is issued that is still in existence. This Quran is nothing like what Muhammad said or Uthman, or the Quran today which has been thru many rewrites since.
-
So there is no pure or original Quran 'handed down' by a pagan moon god Allah via his jewish angel (?)- not at all.
-
What there is are a rolling set of lies and fabrication, copied off ishmaelism & the book of T'ubah (all the Quran base or pretext is copied from this - a 'Jewish book of rules for Arabs' written by the yemenites & later used by Yusuf the Arab Jewish fanatic).
And none of it is from Muhammad !!
Go read the Quran - Muhammad has one tiny sura near the back in his own voice - where he had NOTHING TO SAY. All the rest is anecdote or hearsay or contradiction.
That's why the Quran is called the book of lies.
infidel fixer

Wiley Park, Australia

#43252 Oct 16, 2013
MUQ wrong again wrote:
<quoted text>
MUQ - this is more lies and your own Islamic history & the Quran proves it a lie.
Do you believe in Islam & the Quran, or your own version of falsehood?
Muhammad never was approached by 'god'.
It was via an angel in a cave - and if you actually read the Quran the 'angel' is Abu Bakr (who he went into the cave with)'channelling' an angel who in turn 'channeled''god'.
Now Abu Bakr was an educated man very familiar with the jewish faith & god beliefs. He also despised the stone idol gods of Mecca claiming they were pagan and old fashioned.
So the 'god' Abu Bakr gave Muhammad - copying the well trodden John the baptist route
in fact was a Jewish god.
Now Allah at this point was a moon (Allah) & star gods grouping (Manat, Lat, Al-Uzzah) with Hubal his earthly stone messenger (via divinity arrows & dials on the idols chest).
Muhammad then synthesized Allah as the Arab god into the Jewish variant of ishmaelism. To appease the Arabs and bridge them into eventual monotheism.. But Allah remained an idol pagan god group of 4 deities and still is today.
Muhammad then tried later to progress islam to a more pure Judaistic variant and was assassinated by poison - by Aisha of the Bakri when he tried to treacherously double cross Abu Bakr and Aisha of their claim of Islam (when he developed Ali as an alternative heir & Jewish alignment. Ali was also killed & descendants.
Muhammad never wrote or dictated anything in
the Quran. There were at least 18 versions of events all partial & conflicting. Aisha & Abu Bakr destroyed all of what Muhammad did dictate or had wanted to say (these were eaten by a goat :'allah wills this' Aisha)
Long after Muhammad died Uthman then wrote his attempt at events but it was wrong as many had died or had conflicting memories. Uthman then BURNT all the other versions or scraps of events, but Aisha still had her own Quran proclaiming she was allah's true messenger & Muhammad was a Jew lover they proudly murdered because of his treachery.
Uthman was then murdered also by the Bakri 'that other old Jew lover (meaning like Muhammad) and they buried him in a jewish graveyard refusing that he was not Muslim either.
Even this Uthman Quran does exist - it's not until over a century later the first Quran is issued that is still in existence. This Quran is nothing like what Muhammad said or Uthman, or the Quran today which has been thru many rewrites since.
-
So there is no pure or original Quran 'handed down' by a pagan moon god Allah via his jewish angel (?)- not at all.
-
What there is are a rolling set of lies and fabrication, copied off ishmaelism & the book of T'ubah (all the Quran base or pretext is copied from this - a 'Jewish book of rules for Arabs' written by the yemenites & later used by Yusuf the Arab Jewish fanatic).
And none of it is from Muhammad !!
Go read the Quran - Muhammad has one tiny sura near the back in his own voice - where he had NOTHING TO SAY. All the rest is anecdote or hearsay or contradiction.
That's why the Quran is called the book of lies.
LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, Bogan pigmuncher who doesn't know who his father was is trying to teach us Islam, LLOL,LLOL, interesting times....LLOL, our blessed prophet did tell us about these ignorant people, it only reenforces our faith.
infidel fixer

Wiley Park, Australia

#43253 Oct 16, 2013
Trouble is you pigmunchers don't believe your own book, thats not our fault

THE QUR'AN (KORAN) FORETOLD IN THE BIBLE?

For twenty-three years, God's words (the Qur'an) were truely put into Muhammad's mouth. He was not the "author" of the Qur'an. The Qur'an was dictated to him by Angel Gabriel who asked Muhammad to simply repeat the words of the Qur'an as he heard them. These words were then committed to memory and to writing by those who hear them during Muhammad's life time and under his supervision.

Was it a coincidence that the prophet "like unto Moses" from the "brethren" of the Israelites (i.e. from the lshmaelites) was also described as one in whose mouth God will put his words and that he will speak in the name of God,(Deuteronomy 18:18-20).

Was it also a coincidence the "Paraclete" that Jesus foretold to come after Him was described as one who "shall not speak of himself, but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak (John 16:13)

Was it another coincidence that Isaiah ties between the messenger connected with Ke'dar and a new song (a scripture in a new language) to be sang unto the Lord (Isaiah 42:10-11).

More explicitly, prophesies Isaiah "For with stammering lips, and another tongue, will he speak to this people" (Isaiah 28:11).

This latter verse correctly describes the "stammering lips" of Prophet Muhammad reflecting the state of tension and concentration he went through at the time of revelation. Another related point is that the Qur'an was revealed in piece-meals over a span of twenty three years. It is interesting to compare this with Isaiah 28:10 whichspeaks of the same thing.

“REFUSE ALL IMITATIONS!!”

Since: Jan 11

Australia

#43254 Oct 16, 2013
infidel fixer wrote:
<quoted text>
You are the same looser* who gets kicked around* by every TOPIX poster* on several forums*, you're stupidity and ignorance is proverbial on TOPIX at least*, LLOL,LLOL,LLOL. What can one expect from shit name* like ADELAIDEAN? country peasant* I guess.....and yes I do intend to keep up the good work for Islam and Muslims.
Oh dear! I must have touched an exposed nerve!

Even as an 'agent provocateur' you're too much of a 'Try-hard'.

In your reply I counted 6 outright lies and one grammatical blunder that would embarrass even a Primary School pupil. Add to those your maniacal laughter and it's clear that you you would be under considerable mental stress if you had a brain.

You've missed your true calling ... as a Doorstop.
infidel fixer

Wiley Park, Australia

#43255 Oct 16, 2013
more from bible.......

WAS THE SHIFT OF RELIGIOUS LEADERSHIP PROPHECIED?

Following the rejection of the last Israelite prophet, Jesus, it was about time that God's promise to make Ishmael a great nation be fulfilled (Genesis 21:13, 18)

In Matthew 21:19-21, Jesus spoke of the fruitless fig tree (A Biblical symbol of prophetic heritage) to be cleared after being given a last chance of three years (the duration of Jesus' ministry) to give fruit. In a later verse in the same chapter, Jesus said: "Therefore, say I unto you, The Kingdom of God shall be taken away from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruit thereof" (Matthew 21:43).

That nation of Ishmael's descendants (the rejected stone in Matthew 21:42) which was victorious against all super-powers of its time as prophecied by Jesus: "And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken, but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder" (Matthew 21:44).

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#43256 Oct 16, 2013
infidel fixer wrote:
<quoted text>
Proven by who? you criminal murderers.LLOL, your credibility is less than the pigs you eat....LLOL,
Your problem is that you come from murderous oil addicted thieves who are going through last throes of death-knell,(A death knell is the ringing of a bell to announce death, tolling the bell) a final nail in your satanic leaders coffin has already peen put in SYRIA, you will be tried as criminals who have long list of crimes against humanity, not to mention theft, rape, pillage,plunder, murder, killing women and children,
But your biggest failure is that you picked up a fight with muslims who come from a historic culture of war and martyrdom and that was your undoing, it took the muslims less than twenty years to completely unravel you entire criminal system, I will not call it a civilisation, but wait, more kicks on your arse is on way..LLOL,LLOL,LLOL......
Your second problem is you are cowards who had no clue of Islam's long illustrious history of defeating enemies, even the un-defeatable savage mongols were converted to islam who subsequently ruled india for a thousand years as Moguls,...now again Muslims have beaten the shite out of you in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, we muslims have long known that no one walks away from our countries with their Balls intact...LLOL,LLOL, from now on its nose dive for you criminals all the way to hell to meet your leader "satan"..........LLO L,LLOL, you should rename yourself Nevillejew'sbitch.....LLOL
Islam will remain intact and prosper and continue to expand until every living being will be converted to Islam or pay Jazia tax as is the requirement under Islamic law, that is the ultimate aim of the people of Mohammed (peace and blessing be upon him), Do you think a pigmuncher like you can teach us about our own religion, LLOL,LLOL when we well know you pigmunchers can't spell history...LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, you have proven yourself to be more stupid than the tattooed Bogans around...,
Funny, that god is our creator and that means you and your mob as well so how is it that you can only believe what is written down and not that of your conscience that god provided you with ?
MUQ

New Delhi, India

#43257 Oct 16, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
It has been proven by Islams own history that the third Caliph made a book for all Muslims to recite so neither you or I have any idea what Muhammad actually said .
If Third Caliph could write a book like Quran, why cant any one before him and after him?

Third Caliph did not write any book, he only formed a committee which made certified copies of the Quranic revelations received by the prophet and sent one copies to each major city of Islamic nations.

And two of these copies survive to this day.

You have a very wrong explanation of Islamic history that third caliph wrote the Quran.

Why he did not inserted his own name in the "book he wrote"? In that case, no one would dare stand up against him and ask him to step down?

You people lack even basic reason and logic when you start making even simple questions
MUQ

New Delhi, India

#43258 Oct 16, 2013
erancy1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok, thank you for your expansion on the question.
"God made religion"
Firstly it is my opinion and it was created by information that I have read, heard and believe to be true or substantiated by fact. There is room for error and I am open to any information that may alter my stance on any issue. Please comment on any statement that follows. It will not cause offence.
1.The religion "Islam" is a belief system that was created by the writings of a Human being named Mohammad.
2.Mohammad was called a prophet.
3.The writings of this Prophet form the foundation of the varying groups that are named Muslims.
4.These factions of Muslims, have been created by different interpretation of the writings.
Lets go with this first, A step by step process.
Your assumptions and your deductions are not correct, from what I can see.

Our prophet was not the ONLY prophet that came into the world. There were many prophets that came into the world before him.

Ask people of other religions what are the tests by which they can check genuineness of any true prophet of God, and you will find that our prophet fulfills them all.

And the proof of his sincerity and truth is the Quran which was sent to him thru revelation.

This book is a living miracle of him, no human is, was, or will be capable to bring another book that will match Quran in style, in subject matter and truth in Arabic language.

That is what is called a Miracle, that no one can repeat the treat.

How different Muslim groups differed in the interpretation of Quran is another topic and can be discussed later.
John Kenney sells rubbish

Tornquist, Argentina

#43260 Oct 16, 2013
John Kenney is a muslim.

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