#43036 Oct 5, 2013
Historical analogies are always dangerous, especially in the hands of politicians and commentators with only superficial historical knowledge.
Let’s see about Munich. In the analogy, Hitler’s place is taken by Ali Khamenei, or perhaps Hassan Rouhani. Indeed? Do they have the world’s strongest military machine, as Hitler already had at that time?
And does Netanyahu himself look like Eduard Benes, the Czech president who trembled before Hitler?
And President Obama, does he resemble Chamberlain, the leader of an enfeebled and practically defenseless Britain, in desperate need of time to rearm? Does Obama surrender to a fanatical dictator?
Or is it Iran that is giving up – or pretending to give up – its nuclear ambitions, brought to its knees by the stringent set of American-dictated international sanctions?
(By the way, the Munich analogy was even more cockeyed when it was recently applied in Israel to the American-Russian agreement about Syria. There, Bashar al-Assad assumed the role of the victorious Hitler, and Obama was the naïve Englishman with the umbrella. Yet it was Assad who gave up his precious chemical weapons, while Obama gave nothing, except a postponement of military action. What kind of a “Munich” was that?)
Coming back to reality: there is nothing splendid about the isolation of Israel these days. Our Isolation means weakness, a loss of power, a diminishing of security. It is the job of a statesman to find allies, to build partnerships, to strengthen the international position of his country. Netanyahu has lately taken to quoting our ancient sages:“If I am not for me, who is for me?” He forgets the next part of that same sentence:“And if I am for myself, what am I?”
URI AVNERY is an Israeli writer and peace activist with Gush Shalom. He is a contributor to CounterPunch’s book The Politics of Anti-Semitism.
KAPEESH BOGANS LLOL.LLOL,LLOL
#43038 Oct 5, 2013
I think you are beginning to get the picture?but only just. I understand your difficulty on how hard it is for you grasp the full picture because everything in your sphere of functioning, i.e western way of life is almost totally dependent on indoctrinated media, subservient governments to jew controlled banking and corporate entities, poorly educated population who have been subdued by laws that almost instantly label you a criminal or terrorist for dissent from the mainstream accepted assumption. The subject is complex and requires extensive background knowledge of judaic history and their conflict with muslims.
Secondly, your views on muslims and Islam are comic and ignorant to say the least. The current cycle of violence and bloodshed in Muslim lands is western and jew/Hindu inspired through a very elaborate network of stealth and is taking full advantage of differences amongst Muslims and through the facade of spreading democracy. All your coward civilisations are frozen with fear from the rise of islam which will continue unabated with more vigorous violence, at least that is what the history of human race teaches us.
Muslims are becoming aware of all this, historically such movements are an evolving phenomena that are dynamic in nature, so ten years from now you will see a lot more united and a bigger force of muslims to recon with. Lastly, just 70 odd years ago You christians and others of your ilk were murdering jews and other christians with such debauchery that has no precedence in entire history of human race, muslims had no role in it whatsoever.
As for the bravery and warrior nature of Muslims I will not go in detail because for a limited Bogan already I have loaded you with too much dose of history of truth, any more and your head may just bob in....LLOL,LLOL, suffice it to say people who have conquered and ruled from Europe to pacific for a millennium could hardly have been cowards.
#43040 Oct 6, 2013
Saint Marys, Australia
#43041 Oct 6, 2013
#43042 Oct 6, 2013
HAHAHAHA....Biggly Bogan Booooo's mum and doggy trying to make out, LLOL,LLO,LLOL,LLOL,
“Free Speech in a Free World ”
Since: May 10
#43043 Oct 6, 2013
What sort of Muslim warrior goes to battle against a fellow Muslim warrior who is doing the same ?
#43044 Oct 6, 2013
First off all such a person cannot be referred to as a Muslim even though they claim to be one, its like saying you gay boys are devoute christians...LLOL In any case these so called muslims are misguided. stupid and ignorant, there is no shortage of them in any segment of humanity. However, the complicity and wickedness of jews and their christian slaves as the prime movers of this bloodshed cannot be denied.
Baulkham Hills, Australia
#43045 Oct 6, 2013
Muslims kill each other (Sunni v Shiites) for not being Muslim enough. When there are no infidels around the need to kill for their pagan moon god is too great, so they kill, kill, kill!
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:
United States — Muslim 1.0%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1%-2%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply.
France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris — car burnings, etc.). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam — Mohammed cartoons).
Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 10-15%
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:
Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of "Dar-es-Salaam" — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 99.9%
Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
#43046 Oct 6, 2013
Prophet Mohammed, Allah's mercy and peace be upon him said " when the events of end times come to the fore, events will move with fast pace like beads falling one after the other in a prayer bead string, one after the other rapidly event will move>>>
I know its hard for Bogan pig munchers to understand such concepts but here is more bad news by one of your own..........
History abandons Israeli regime
It isn’t just Netanyahu. The controlled media is working 24 hours a day to make it seem like America will do Israel’s bidding in yet another round of wars fought for oil, drugs, stolen human organs, stock market scams or whatever the “flavor of the month” in Tel Aviv is.
It just isn’t going to happen.
I don’t care what this interview or that pundit say, America can’t fight any more wars. Our military is gone, not that we don’t have weapons. We are drowning in them.
We have half a million broken soldiers, one million broken young veterans and two million more left over from other wars.
We have a population that no longer believes the news, a population that thinks “false flag” at every staged false flag incident.
No sane American would fight for a nation ruled by the clowns in Washington, not even if we nuked Denver. TV already warned us about nuclear false flags on the series Jericho.
There is a huge divide in Washington. The Israel lobby is at the center of the Obamacare debate and the government shutdown. Many global political analysts see Obama’s reassessment of Syria, in particular his rejection of Israeli intelligence reports on the Syrian government’s alleged use of chemical weapons as a “red line” to Israel
It is not.
Many more see the burgeoning friendly relationship between the US and Iran as a betrayal of Israel. They could care less.
Netanyahu’s belligerence is, in itself, intended to be high comedy, played out to a UN General Assembly that has voted sanctions against Israel over 200 times.
Netanyahu would be more welcome at a Nazi Party rally.
The Obamacare issue is about “funds in management.” The health insurance industry, through investment banks and hedge funds, accounts for 35% of the entire investment capital of the United States.
This sector has been totally unregulated with, not just individual policyholders but industries and government forced to subsidize a health care Ponzi scheme where, in some cases, fewer than 3% of policy premiums were paid back in benefits.
It isn’t just Netanyahu and the issue isn’t Zionism or Greater Israel or “the Jews” or “death panels.” The issue is massive financial fraud perpetrated by, low and behold, insurance companies that are, in actuality, banks, the majority of whom are tied directly to the ownership and management of the Federal Reserve and IMF.
When Netanyahu is out there, making a fool of himself at the UN or sitting next to Obama who has often publicly stated he would rather be attacked by rabid rats, he is speaking for secret societies and financial cartels.
Netanyahu could care about Israel. No Israeli leader since 1948 has hurt that nation more; you could almost compare Netanyahu to George W. Bush or even Tony Blair, though I would stop short of that.
Syria is the end. The idea of fighting in Syria or Afghanistan or Iraq is insane. The terrorist you train to fight in Afghanistan or Syria may, someday, be living next door to you. Oddly, in my case, I have an American trained Mujahedeen military leader living nearby.
#43047 Oct 6, 2013
I make him write articles for Veterans Today.
The Syrian model is more insane, with terrorists and advanced weapons likely to head to Europe or be used to dismember Iraq or overthrow the Saudi government.
This has been a huge error and will only get worse if or perhaps “when” the Assad government is finally triumphant. The scurrying rats will turn on their masters.
The power elite, be they Zionist plotters or the Bush family, you choose, have deluded themselves that they can control the world, force populations to kill themselves off, starve off others, kill millions more with diseases engineered in secret facilities in Georgia, Kazakhstan, the Ukraine, Bulgaria and Poland, enslaving the world, ignorance, anarchy, pestilence and death.
Watching western leaders, excuse me for including Netanyahu in this group, shamelessly speak of others developing “dangerous” or “illegal” weapons when new germ warfare labs are being built every year, part of the “gulag” of “black sites” that infect so many areas now, veritable “free trade zones” for murder, torture and human depravity.
Whenever you hear the term “Central Reference Lab,” think; Ebola, anthrax or virally spread fast killing cancers. Sarin has become passé.
This model was designed by Henry Kissinger who has some surprising adherents, names like Rand Paul for instance. Long ago, we were warned to be wary of those who saw what we want to hear.
The new model is based on Africa. America’s military collapse, based on the inability to maintain permanent war, hit as early as 2005. The answer was General Petraeus and his “surge” in Iraq. By “surge,” we surged in bribes, surged in hypocrisy and surged in lying.
What we had done is what we had done in Vietnam decades before with General Westmoreland. We had “seen the light at the end of the tunnel” and failed to recognize it to be a fast freight train preparing to squash us into oblivion.
Thus, we are transitioning our wars to Africa. There, we can live entirely on surrogate armies, often barefoot, some paid nothing, sent out to war on one another.
The mechanism is simple and is well underway. Intelligence agencies have set up nearly a dozen terrorist groups across Africa. Over the past few years, thousands of acts of terror have been perpetrated.
This has been a period of “testing.”
Advanced game warfare software watches the responses, learns with each new incident and creates models to achieve the desired aim.
What is it?
Afghanistan is going to continue putting out a hundred billion a year in drug cash, much of it flowing directly into the American political system.
Next, Afghanistan’s rare earth mineral wealth, almost endless, will fall under control
This alone will finance an unassailable police state that no uprising of enraged patriots could ever overcome.
The European Union has been castrated, it currency collapsed, its financial markets destroyed, its industrial growth ended.
There will be peace with Iran because it is no longer necessary to create artificial confrontations in the Persian Gulf to manipulate the world fuels markets. New computer software developed in concert between the NSA and Israel can do that without the distraction of threats of war.
There has always been that risk that the power elites have dreaded so much, that “peace” might just break out, spoiling their plans. This is the great enemy that they have armed themselves against.
“Free Speech in a Free World ”
Since: May 10
#43048 Oct 6, 2013
Does this mean that these violent so called Muslims aren't Muslims at all so they must be terrorists that have to be exterminated for their criminality ?
#43049 Oct 6, 2013
The advantage to spending a generation burning Africa to the ground is obvious. Vast armies can be recruited for almost nothing. A million deaths in Africa can go unnoticed and, as some are more than aware, has.
A half dozen intelligence agencies are focusing their efforts on Africa, building insurgencies, training terrorists, rigging elections, bribing and blackmailing. This is obvious to any, long in evidence.
During the 1980s, scientists from South Africa, Israel, Belgium, Libya, East Germany, Russia, Britain and the United States embarked on a program of developing diseases to target African racial groups.
Chemical weapons programs with similar purpose were funded also, the records of these are available through the South African Truth Commission website, albeit edited and expunged.
Similarly, vast computer networks backed by satellites, drones and tied to the seemingly innocent internet social networks, have begun prestaging the next generation of endless “Kissingerian” human suffering.
Gordon Duff is a Marine Vietnam veteran, a combat infantryman, and Senior Editor at Veterans Today.
#43050 Oct 6, 2013
LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,LLOL just 70 odd years ago You christians and others of your ilk were murdering jews and other christians with such debauchery that it has no precedence in entire history of human race, muslims had no role in it whatsoever, ever heard of history.....LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,.
#43051 Oct 6, 2013
Allah of the Islamic religion is not the same as the God of the Bible.
Allah can be traced backwards in history as one of many deities,- a pagan nature god plagiarized from the Sumerian god Sin (Baal) idolatry.
Allah as a named god did not exist until 180 AD, 30 years after the first settlement of Mecca as a Yemenite trading post. A stone idol Hubal was purchased as the earthly tribute Idol of Allah, and later idols for Manat, Lat & Al-Uzza (shared deities or personalities of Allah) were spread around Mecca to widen the capture of religious trade.
Allah worship is henotheism and polytheism, of a 'manufactured' entity with a purchased idol.
There is no record of any Mecca existing prior to 150 AD, then there are extensive records including the Yemenite records of establishment.
No person had ever lived or settled there prior to that, so the Islamic claim of Hagar & Ishmael or Abraham visiting are patently false.
Likewise - there is not one record of any 'Allah' existing prior to 180 AD, after that there are many records.
Implications for MUQ.
Muslims worshipping Allah, are not worshipping the true Creator God, but a false pagan idol associated with jinn (devil) worship, evil and darkness. Pagan idol god worship is specifically condemned in the Bible:
“...And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either, the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded.”(Deuteronomy 17:3)
"And he put down the idolatrous priests etc.... offering unto Baal, to the sun, to the moon, to the planets, and to all the host of heaven.”(II Kings 23:5).
Thus MUQ like all Muslims offend and sins before God in worshipping a manufactured pagan devil idol.
He will go to Hell,God had told him what not to do, he disobeys God.
To the question - does MUQ & other Muslims know they worship false & pagan idols ?
- the answer is absolutely -.
Islam's fixation with the crescent moon symbol, widely associated with worship of the moon god is just one cue. The symbol was even on the first Islamic coins.(696 AD).
The crescent moon is a constant reminder to MUQ & all other Muslims they wish to be sinners.
Islam also has a binding culture of lying and denial (taqiyya) where Muslims are trained to lie to everyone outside of Islam about their pagan idol god worship.
Islam is based on 'the group' being able lie to others and their pagan idol beliefs are denied or kept secret.
MUQ has shown repeated taqiyya, shirk and kitman on this forum and displays his sins to all including god. Allah the pagan devil god of Sin & Baal has owns his soul.
Can MUQ be saved from his devil god worship ?
#43052 Oct 6, 2013
No, Not before your christian and jew terrorists criminals are eliminated, here is a prediction you should hold close to your heart; in your very own lifetime these so called muslim terrorists who are armed and supported by your fellow christian and jews will soon turn their guns on their christian and jew benefactor and will cause such grief from which your murderous thieving corporate greedy cabal will never be able to recover. Syria has already shown us that.........your lack of education and historical knowledge makes you too stupid to grasp these obvious repercussions of wests criminal behaviour. First you have to admit to your evil and make amends before things start to improve.
Your societies should try in the court of law criminals such as Tony blair, GW Bush, Obama, Benjamin Nathanu little poodle Howard should only be whipped because he is just a small fry...LLOL,LLOL,LLOL as well as House of Saudi criminals who were in cahoots with these other criminals, they should all be punished and justice implemented. Only after this should the muslim terrorists be punished.
Baulkham Hills, Australia
#43054 Oct 6, 2013
50% of all Muslims are inbred, so that's the chance of infidel fixer being inbred. Your so called prophet Muhammad married a 9 year old girl when he was 54, & was poisoned by a simple Jewish woman. He admitted he heard voices in his head & wasn't sure where they were coming from. The muslim perfect man was a mass murdering paedophile who was poisoned & therefore proven to be a false prophet.
Why are you living in a western democracy infidel fixer? Allah will not be happy with you. You live under the infidels laws, you live under democracy, your taxes go to paying for bullets that kill your fellow muslims in Afghanistan. Indirectly you are killing fellow muslims! Why are you too scared to migrate to a Muslim country & live under Sharia like a good muslim? Because you are full of crap like all muslims that's why, paedophile follower.
#43056 Oct 6, 2013
Christian Lebs are to be feared as well:
Farkin crooks and thugs.
#43058 Oct 7, 2013
For MUQ !!!
The New York Times News Service
Wednesday, September 11, 2013 21:46MDT
David Landes, a distinguished Harvard scholar of economic history, saw tidal movements in the rise of seemingly small things. He suggested that the development of eyeglasses made precision tools possible. Maybe, he said, using chopsticks helped Asian workers gain the manual dexterity needed to make microprocessors.
Prof. Landes, who died last month at the age of 89, was preoccupied by the importance of culture in shaping economic and social progress or stagnation. His most influential work, The Wealth and Poverty of Nations: Why Some Are So Rich and Some So Poor (1998), answered the question posed in its title (a play on that of Adam Smith’s classic work) by pointing to the importance of the Protestant work ethic and European attitudes toward science and technology.
Mitt Romney, the Republican presidential nominee in 2012, acknowledged Prof. Landes as an influence.“There are superior cultures, and ours is one of them,” Mr. Romney wrote in his 2010 book, No Apology: The Case for American Greatness.“As David Landes observed,‘Culture makes all the difference.’”
Prof. Landes’s views lay behind a controversial remark Mr. Romney made in July, 2012, at a campaign fundraiser in Jerusalem. In a speech in which he mentioned The Wealth and Poverty of Nations, Mr. Romney suggested that a superior culture explains why Israelis are more economically successful than Palestinians. Palestinians called the remark racist and criticized Mr. Romney for not acknowledging the trade restrictions that Israel has imposed on them.
But Prof. Landes’s son, Richard, a historian at Boston University, speaking for both himself and his father, told The Boston Globe that they approved of Mr. Romney’s remarks about Israeli culture.
Richard Landes also sought to pay Palestinians a compliment by lauding their culture and praising their economic success in comparison with that of other Arab peoples.“Much of that comes from their close association with the Zionists,” he said of Palestinians.
Prof. Landes was often lumped with the branch of academia and politics known as neoconservatism, partly for his praise of the European model of development over those of other cultures. But his positions were not always predictable. He split from conservative economists by questioning their view that free trade is always good for development. And even though he thought colonialism was not to blame for the stagnation of former colonies in Africa, Latin America and elsewhere, he compared Columbus’s atrocities against indigenous people in the New World to Hitler’s Holocaust.
Richard Landes said that his father died on Aug. 17 in Haverford, Pa., where he lived, and that his health had failed since his wife, the former Sonia Tarnopol, died in April. Besides his son, Prof. Landes leaves two daughters, Jane Foster and Alison Fiekowsky; eight grandchildren; and nine great-grandchildren.
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#43060 Oct 8, 2013
Good, keep showing us in peaceful Christian society's how Devout God fearing Muslims kill there children.
This is not the way to martyrdom and heaven you pathetic backward Monkeys.
“Free Speech in a Free World ”
Since: May 10
#43061 Oct 8, 2013
Exterminated from the very existence they think they are fighting for .
Can a Muslim be de Islamed if found to be acting beyond that of the Peace and Tranquility prescribed by their Prophet Muhammad ?
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