Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46752 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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MUQ hajj moon tonight

Australia

#43073 Oct 10, 2013
I think the muslims have got the 2013 hajj dates wrong again - it's the proper crescent (33% illumination moon that is the pagan moon god seasonal fertility ritual trigger - today ...
News today that Saudi has put out an extra 95,000 'armed security forces'- peaceful....
Over 43,000 prostitutes are now also in place or being bused to set up shop in a ring of squalid knocking shops around Mecca to service demand. About 3,000 are non muslim to service
the elite needs.(Mecca police chief complains about, etc).
Big concerns about the new money venture of selling muslim zamzam 'holy water'- about as fake to Islam as a christmas card... The real well water contains high level of arsenic & nitrates and is near poisonous.. what they have done is run piping into the well using treated sewerage water from the waste of Mecca - a recent chemical analysis of the 'new zamzam holy water' showed the traces of the scrubber & disinfectant chemicals used in the waste treatment plant expanded 5 years ago.
Ah the taqiyya of the muslims.. Don't drink this water MUQ as you would surely be drinking the sins of others & the pilgrims are loaded up with hep & cholera & typhoid & other water borne infection.
And finally / remember Hubal ? The lord of the kaaba. The earth idol of Allah the pagan paid tribute to, and Allah then gave a 'message' via hubal to the pagan. The stone idol that muhammad replaced as a human idol.
Here is what happened to hubal..

We have then a brief description of the storming of the city, which made but little resistance. The kindly feeling of Mohammed towards his paternal tribe seems to have been ill-understood and little approved of by his followers. A terrible slaughter was made of those whose self-confidence or distrust had led them to neglect the terms of safety propounded by the Prophet; and Khaled especially (the soldier whose ferocious zeal had procured hiin the title of The Sword of God—addressing his followers with the words " Strike your swords into them, and the blessing of God be with you!"—carried devastation before him. Thrice the wretched victims sent to implore the clemency of Mohammed against his merciless general, and thrice the message of mercy was delivered to the warrior, but accompanied by a command from the messengers—in each case, the noblest of the arm)-—to smite and spare not. At length an angry message by the mouth of Ali stayed the carnage. The rebuked Saad Ben Ibadah approached his superior, and repeated the chapter of the Koran beginning, " We have made tbee to conquer with a manifest victory," &c. Then, Ali standing on his right hand, and Alabbas on his left, and Amru and Othman before him, Mohammed proclaimed his name and descent, and his divinely-bestowed title, the discomfited Meccans, reproaching them with their rejection of him and his law. Then he rode, amidst the repentant tears of the citizens and the lamentations of their women, to the holy temple, and after performing his devotions there, he ordered all the idols to be thrown down from the top of the temple, except Hubal, the largest, which was secured by lead on the top of the temple. Arriving at the Caaba, the Prophet gave to the surprised Meccans a new and convincing proof of his supernatural knowledge, by revealing the place under the tapestry of the temple where the key of the Caaba was hidden. Ali was the favoured individual who was permitted to ascend the roof, and tear therefrom the huge image of Hubal, which was thrown down headlong, and falling on its front, like the idol Dajron, broke " its face, and the palms of its hands." The trunk of the fallen idol was built over on all sides, and formed, long after, a step to one of the gates of the temple, that the feet of the pilgrims might trample upon it"
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Say MUQ - say hello to Hubal from all us non
believers, we think that he was a much better representative of Allah and so did the meccans as well.
MUQ hajj moon tonight

Australia

#43074 Oct 10, 2013
I think the muslims have got the 2013 hajj dates wrong again - it's the proper crescent (33% illumination moon that is the pagan moon god seasonal fertility ritual trigger - today ...
News today that Saudi has put out an extra 95,000 'armed security forces'- peaceful....
Over 43,000 prostitutes are now also in place or being bused to set up shop in a ring of squalid knocking shops around Mecca to service demand. About 3,000 are non muslim to service
the elite needs.(Mecca police chief complains about, etc).
Big concerns about the new money venture of selling muslim zamzam 'holy water'- about as fake to Islam as a christmas card... The real well water contains high level of arsenic & nitrates and is near poisonous.. what they have done is run piping into the well using treated sewerage water from the waste of Mecca - a recent chemical analysis of the 'new zamzam holy water' showed the traces of the scrubber & disinfectant chemicals used in the waste treatment plant expanded 5 years ago.
Ah the taqiyya of the muslims.. Don't drink this water MUQ as you would surely be drinking the sins of others & the pilgrims are loaded up with hep & cholera & typhoid & other water borne infection.
And finally / remember Hubal ? The lord of the kaaba. The earth idol of Allah the pagan paid tribute to, and Allah then gave a 'message' via hubal to the pagan. The stone idol that muhammad replaced as a human idol.
Here is what happened to hubal..

We have then a brief description of the storming of the city, which made but little resistance. The kindly feeling of Mohammed towards his paternal tribe seems to have been ill-understood and little approved of by his followers. A terrible slaughter was made of those whose self-confidence or distrust had led them to neglect the terms of safety propounded by the Prophet; and Khaled especially (the soldier whose ferocious zeal had procured hiin the title of The Sword of God—addressing his followers with the words " Strike your swords into them, and the blessing of God be with you!"—carried devastation before him. Thrice the wretched victims sent to implore the clemency of Mohammed against his merciless general, and thrice the message of mercy was delivered to the warrior, but accompanied by a command from the messengers—in each case, the noblest of the arm)-—to smite and spare not. At length an angry message by the mouth of Ali stayed the carnage. The rebuked Saad Ben Ibadah approached his superior, and repeated the chapter of the Koran beginning, " We have made tbee to conquer with a manifest victory," &c. Then, Ali standing on his right hand, and Alabbas on his left, and Amru and Othman before him, Mohammed proclaimed his name and descent, and his divinely-bestowed title, the discomfited Meccans, reproaching them with their rejection of him and his law. Then he rode, amidst the repentant tears of the citizens and the lamentations of their women, to the holy temple, and after performing his devotions there, he ordered all the idols to be thrown down from the top of the temple, except Hubal, the largest, which was secured by lead on the top of the temple. Arriving at the Caaba, the Prophet gave to the surprised Meccans a new and convincing proof of his supernatural knowledge, by revealing the place under the tapestry of the temple where the key of the Caaba was hidden. Ali was the favoured individual who was permitted to ascend the roof, and tear therefrom the huge image of Hubal, which was thrown down headlong, and falling on its front, like the idol Dajron, broke " its face, and the palms of its hands." The trunk of the fallen idol was built over on all sides, and formed, long after, a step to one of the gates of the temple, that the feet of the pilgrims might trample upon it"
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So MUQ if your off to do to some idol worship in the next week - say hello to Hubal from all of us non believers!! We think he was a much better representative of Allah than Muhammad. So did the Meccans...
Allah thinks

Australia

#43075 Oct 10, 2013
,,(•..•),,
Allah is not amused
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#43076 Oct 10, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
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So the Palestinian Muslims should be "smartest" among all Muslims? Is that what you are trying to say?
If they had a better culture, they would be smarter.
But the qran keeps them from developing the better parts of their culture so they will always be the people with the lowest IQ.
bobby

Toukley, Australia

#43077 Oct 10, 2013
Xing Yuig wrote:
<quoted text> Muq, day after day muslim children are slain by muslim adults, why is this happening and what is the solution. https://www.google.com.au/search... can your people get over the hatred.
Don't ask MUQ direct sensible questions, he doesn't like it. Especially if it doesn't have any thing to do with those Pesky Trouble-making JEWS !!!
Islam fixed up

Granville, Australia

#43080 Oct 10, 2013
The hajj ritual predates Muhammad & Islam.
Islam incorporated the hajj ritual along with sabean & moon god pagan idol worship (above).
Hubal, the 'lord of the Ka'aba' supposedly buried with the idol temple, and the black stone mounted on the side of the idol temple are the worshipped idol pagan objects of Islam.
Allah is a deity spirit of the moon and the controller of evil & darkness. Allah is a 2nd century AD adaptation of the Sumerian god Sin.
Allah has 3 daughters - Manat, Lat & Al-Uzza that are the stars or progeny of Allah the Moon God & the Sun. These are also worshipped in the hajj ritual but copied Jewish scripture is used
to conceal those rituals.
The black stone is 'pieces of allah's face' that have fallen from 'heaven'. The black stone may have been a meteorite, such objects were commonly worshipped by all pagans. However in 920 AD the kaaba was destroyed by the Qarmations (the Kaaba has been destroyed & rebuilt many times since it was first built in 480AD). The Qarmations 'deconsecrated' & defiled the kaaba and black stone, then smashed it into many thousands of tiny pieces & cast it into the desert in Hajar. The Meccans paid a huge ransom some 19 years later & got back a tiny handful of desert gravel. This was mounted into resin to be the current black stone. But testing by the british & king abduallah in 1922 showed that these fragments are 'not associated' ie not of the same stone - and are not meteoric of origin.
Just common desert fieldspar - the Qarmations tricked the Meccans. All of Islam prays & worships a handful of common road base...
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Clearly Islam needs some proper valid idol objects that have scientific validity.
Hubal the proper Allah Idol should be dug up and put back on the roof. Then muslims wouldnt have to lie about who they worship in borrowing other beliefs gods, and muslims wouldn't be so confused about that either.
And the Muslims could ask NASA for some real
moon rocks to replace their fake gravel. After all no point in having all that moon god symbology & so on, but be praying to fake things when the real stuff is now available. Manat, Lat & Al-Uzza should also be reinstated as they are part of Allah as well. Muhammad as a proto Jew trying to create his synthetic heretical apostasy to be more monotheistic made a big mistake there -
these 3 spirits still exist as part of Allah even if there is no earthly idols for them.
Then Islam would be back to basics and more believable. A proper simple pagan nature god worship with proper idols & objects to support it.
Galatians

Glen Iris, Australia

#43083 Oct 11, 2013
European Aussie wrote:
<quoted text>
It can't because of the ideology of Islam. Islamic countries have remained uncivilised and undeveloped as a result.
Without prejudice here is an idol for Islam:
https://www.google.com.au/search...
Here is mine
https://www.google.com.au/search... %
Just like Stalinism, Nazi germany et...
Galatians

Glen Iris, Australia

#43085 Oct 11, 2013
European Aussie wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope, the Nazi's were highly advanced and were the best warriors of all time... It took 3 superpowers and then some to stop them. They should NEVER have been stopped IMO ;)
Oh really, so killing people is civilised behaviour? And is a mark of a civilised kultur?
Galatians

Glen Iris, Australia

#43087 Oct 11, 2013
European Aussie wrote:
<quoted text>
Dont put this on me. Every government/ country does it ;) The Nazi's just did it properly ;)
Of course everyone has done it? So, that makes it civilised? Right? Humane? The Nazi death camps were ineffectively designed, which debunks the german vain glorious myth. Simple.
Vaginia

Sydney, Australia

#43089 Oct 11, 2013
topbloke wrote:
i don't think the average australian really care for their bullshit.
i used to live in kuraby in brisbane. and over a span of 4 yrs. the place went to shit. a huge muslim population popped up out of no where. and then all the business got replaced by similar shops and stores only applying to halal food and clothes and other stuff
locals used to take there kids to the park on beenliegh road. and now its overtaken by meetings and functions every weekend. they dont care what australians think. they just want to take over.
there opening a new mosque in eight mile plains down the road by woolworths and that area will be overtaken soon as well. next will be mt gravatt.
sad really. my wife was spat on by bunch of them outside lucky 7 on beenleigh road.
Like any suburb in the major city's they move in, Shiite everywhere . Just like in there home land. FILTH

Bankstown
Auburn
Quakers Hill
Lidcombe
Punchbowl
Lakemba
Parramatta

Filth
Filth
Filth
Filth
Filth
Filth

The free ride is over you criminal immigrant parasitic Scum, next legislation will be, commit crimes in Australia and back to filthy dirty Homeland.

DEPORTED STAMPED ON YOUR PASSPORT.....

HA Ha ha

Just watch.
ryan

Villawood, Australia

#43091 Oct 11, 2013
http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/article....

Thank the lord, we now have a government with direction. Three cheers for prime Minister Abbott, Three cheers for the new CUSTOM BOATS.
Muslim Mom

Australia

#43092 Oct 11, 2013
What number for calling new Australian custom boat taxi?
infidel fixer

Wiley Park, Australia

#43094 Oct 11, 2013
Vaginia wrote:
<quoted text> Like any suburb in the major city's they move in, Shiite everywhere . Just like in there home land. FILTH
Bankstown
Auburn
Quakers Hill
Lidcombe
Punchbowl
Lakemba
Parramatta
Filth
Filth
Filth
Filth
Filth
Filth
The free ride is over you criminal immigrant parasitic Scum, next legislation will be, commit crimes in Australia and back to filthy dirty Homeland.
DEPORTED STAMPED ON YOUR PASSPORT.....
HA Ha ha
Just watch.
LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, Once a convict always a convict CONVICT....LLOL,LLOL, entire system based on theft, lies, deceit, fraud, gay boys, open vagina women...LLOL,LLOL,LLOL< convict Flith FILTH FILTH....we Muslims will soon send you convicts back on Boats....LLOL, LLOL,

Pentagon admits to holding phony arrival ceremonies for soldiers' remains


The Department of Defense unit charged with recovering servicemembers’ remains abroad has been holding phony “arrival ceremonies” for seven years, with an honor guard carrying flag-draped coffins off of a cargo plane as though they held the remains returning that day from old battlefields.

The Pentagon acknowledged Wednesday that no honored dead were in fact arriving, and that the planes used in the ceremonies often couldn’t even fly, and were towed into position. The story was first reported on nbcnews.com .

The ceremonies at Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam in Hawaii are held up as a sign of the nation’s commitment to its fallen warriors. They have been attended by veterans and families of MIAs, led to believe that they were witnessing the return of Americans killed in World War II, Vietnam and Korea.

In a statement sent to NBC News, the Pentagon wrote:

“Part of the ceremony involves symbolically transferring the recovered remains from an aircraft to a vehicle for follow-on transportation to the lab. Many times, static aircraft are used for the ceremonies, as operational requirements dictate flight schedules and aircraft availability. This transfer symbolizes the arrival of our fallen servicemembers.

“It is important to note that recovered remains ceremoniously transferred from the aircraft to the [bus] have been in the lab undergoing forensic analysis to determine identity. When remains first arrive in Hawaii, JPAC cannot confirm if the remains are those of an American servicemember.”

NBC writes that the ceremonies have been known among some of the military and civilian staff at the base as The Big Lie.

The Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command, or JPAC, has come under intense scrutiny in recent months after two scathing reports were released this summer.

In July, The Associated Press ran a story exposing a 2012 internal JPAC report that found the agency to be “acutely dysfunctional” with some missions that amounted to little more than paid vacations for staffers.

A second investigation released weeks later by the Government Accountability Office found that Pentagon efforts to account for fallen troops missing overseas were inefficient and in need of overhaul, according to congressional sources.

In 2010, lawmakers mandated JPAC to reach an annual goal of recovering at least 200 fallen troops from overseas battlefields by 2015, but it had failed to build the capacity to do so, the GAO found. Currently the Hawaii-based command averages less than 70 individuals per year.

Much of the inefficiency found by the GAO researchers comes down to a turf war between JPAC and the Defense Prisoner of War/Missing Personnel Office, which shares some of the same responsibilities, Congressional sources said.
infidel fixer

Wiley Park, Australia

#43095 Oct 11, 2013
The show

According to the NBC report, here’s what the audience was shown:

A C-17 military transport aircraft was parked, its ramp down, outside a hangar at the base. After generals and dignitaries were introduced, a military chaplain said a prayer, the audience sang “The Star-Spangled Banner,” and “Taps” was played. Then an honor guard carried flag-draped transfer cases, which look like coffins, down the ramp and placed them in the back of blue buses, which were driven away.

The emcee thanked the audience for “welcoming them home.” The script continued,“After removal from the aircraft, the remains will be taken to the Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command’s Central Identification Laboratory. There, JPAC scientists will begin the identification process.”

Citing eyewitnesses and photographs taken behind the scenes, NBC wrote that what actually happened is very different:

Before 6 a.m., the honor guard assembled behind the JPAC headquarters on the base. They loaded transfer cases onto the buses and drove to the hangar.

The honor guard loaded the transfer cases into the pre-positioned C-17, then rehearsed for the ceremony. They then returned to the plane, and waited.

The public was allowed in for the 9 a.m. ceremony: invited politicians, media, families of the missing and veterans. Employees from JPAC were bused over to fill out the crowd.

Then the show began, with tears and salutes as the remains were marched to the buses, then driven off to the lab to “begin the identification process.”

Jesse Baker, an 81-year-old Air Force veteran of World War II and Korea living in Honolulu, told NBC News that he has been to more than 50 of these ceremonies. He said he’s always been under the impression that the plane had just arrived carrying recovered remains.

Baker tried to make sense of why the DOD would work so hard to trick him and other veterans.“That’s disturbing. I don’t know when they stopped being honest and switched over to this Mickey Mouse, but whoever did it, I hope they find him a new job somewhere.” Stars and Stripes

AGB/AGB
ryan

Baulkham Hills, Australia

#43096 Oct 11, 2013
Muslim Mom wrote:
What number for calling new Australian custom boat taxi?
1345NEEGAAR you smelly hairy miserable biitch.
infidel fixer

Wiley Park, Australia

#43097 Oct 11, 2013
I know its hard, almost impossible for semi literate two bit Bogans to understand that we have recently passed a mile stone in the history of modern world, the Muslims have turned the tables in pursuit of their conquest of the world and from now on the rise of Islam will be relentless and its no wonder tony abbot is kissing Indonesia arse as if arse kissing is going out of style...LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, anyway this from a jew of high Journalistic integrity spells disaster for white trash...LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,

OCTOBER 08, 2013

The Cape of Good Hope

Russia, Syria and the Decline of American Hegemony
by ISRAEL SHAMIR

First, the good news. American hegemony is over. The bully has been subdued. We cleared the Cape of Good Hope, symbolically speaking, in September 2013. With the Syrian crisis, the world has passed a key forking of modern history. It was touch and go, just as risky as the Cuban missile crisis of 1962. The chances for total war were high, as the steely wills of America and Eurasia had crossed in the Eastern Mediterranean. It will take some time until the realisation of what we’ve gone through seeps in: it is normal for events of such magnitude. The turmoil in the US, from the mad car chase in the DC to the shutdown of federal government and possible debt default, are the direct consequences of this event.

Remember the Berlin Wall? When it went down, I was in Moscow, writing for Haaretz. I went to a press-conference with Politburo members in the President Hotel, and asked them whether they concurred that the end of the USSR and world socialist system was nigh. I was laughed at; it was an embarrassing occasion. Oh no, they said. Socialism will blossom, as the result of the Wall’s fall. The USSR went down two years later. Now our memory has compacted those years into a brief sequence, but in reality, it took some time.

The most dramatic event of September 2013 was the high-noon stand-off near the Levantine shore, with five US destroyers pointing their Tomahawks towards Damascus and facing them – the Russian flotilla of eleven ships led by the carrier-killer Missile Cruiser Moskva and supported by Chinese warships. Apparently, two missiles were launched towards the Syrian coast, and both failed to reach their destination.

It was claimed by a Lebanese newspaper quoting diplomatic sources that the missiles were launched from a NATO air base in Spain and they were shot down by the Russian ship-based sea-to-air defence system. Another explanation proposed by the Asia Times says the Russians employed their cheap and powerful GPS jammers to render the expensive Tomahawks helpless, by disorienting them and causing them to fail. Yet another version attributed the launch to the Israelis, whether they were trying to jump-start the shoot-out or just observed the clouds, as they claim.

Whatever the reason, after this strange incident, the pending shoot-out did not commence, as President Obama stood down and holstered his guns. This was preceded by an unexpected vote in the British Parliament. This venerable body declined the honour of joining the attack proposed by the US. This was the first time in two hundred years that the British parliament voted down a sensible proposition to start a war; usually the Brits can’t resist the temptation.

After that, President Obama decided to pass the hot potato to the Congress. He was unwilling to unleash Armageddon on his own. Thus the name of action was lost. Congress did not want to go to war with unpredictable consequences. Obama tried to browbeat Putin at the 20G meeting in St Petersburg, and failed. The Russian proposal to remove Syrian chemical weaponry allowed President Obama to save face. This misadventure put paid to American hegemony , supremacy and exceptionalism. Manifest Destiny was over. We all learned that from Hollywood flics: the hero never stands down; he draws and shoots! If he holsters his guns, he is not a hero: he’s chickened out.
infidel fixer

Wiley Park, Australia

#43098 Oct 11, 2013
Afterwards, things began to unravel fast. The US President had a chat with the new president of Iran, to the chagrin of Tel Aviv. The Free Syrian Army rebels decided to talk to Assad after two years of fighting him, and their delegation arrived in Damascus, leaving the Islamic extremists high and dry. Their supporter Qatar is collapsing overextended. The shutdown of their government and possible debt default gave the Americans something real to worry about. With the end of US hegemony, the days of the dollar as the world reserve currency are numbered.

World War III almost occurred as the banksters wished it. They have too many debts, including the unsustainable foreign debt of the US. If those Tomahawks had flown, the banksters could have claimed Force Majeure and disavow the debt. Millions of people would die, but billions of dollars would be safe in the vaults of JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs. In September, the world crossed this bifurcation point safely, as President Obama refused to take the fall for the banksters. Perhaps he deserved his Nobel peace prize, after all.

The near future is full of troubles but none are fatal. The US will lose its emission rights as a source of income. The US dollar will cease to serve as the world reserve currency though it will remain the North American currency. Other parts of the world will resort to their euro, yuan, rouble, bolivar, or dinar. The US military expenditure will have to be slashed to normal, and this elimination of overseas bases and weaponry will allow the US population to make the transition rather painlessly. Nobody wants to go after America; the world just got tired of them riding shotgun all over the place. The US will have to find new employment for so many bankers, jailers, soldiers, even politicians.

As I stayed in Moscow during the crisis, I observed these developments as they were seen by Russians. Putin and Russia have been relentlessly hard-pressed for quite a while.

* The US supported and subsidised Russia’s liberal and nationalist opposition; the national elections in Russia were presented as one big fraud. The Russian government was delegitimised to some extent.

* The Magnitsky Act of the US Congress authorised the US authorities to arrest and seize the assets of any Russian they deem is up to no good, without a recourse to a court.

* Some Russian state assets were seized in Cyprus where the banks were in trouble.

* The US encouraged Pussy Riot, gay parades etc. in Moscow, in order to promote an image of Putin the dictator, enemy of freedom and gay-hater in the Western and Russian oligarch-owned media.

* Russian support for Syria was criticised, ridiculed and presented as a brutal act devoid of humanity. At the same time, Western media pundits expressed certainty that Russia would give up on Syria.

As I wrote previously, Russia had no intention to surrender Syria, for a number of good reasons: it was an ally; the Syrian Orthodox Christians trusted Russia; geopolitically the war was getting too close to Russian borders. But the main reason was Russia’s annoyance with American high-handedness. The Russians felt that such important decisions should be taken by the international community, meaning the UN Security Council. They did not appreciate the US assuming the role of world arbiter.
infidel fixer

Wiley Park, Australia

#43099 Oct 11, 2013
In the 1990s, Russia was very weak, and could not effectively object, but they felt bitter when Yugoslavia was bombed and NATO troops moved eastwards breaking the US promise to Gorbachev. The Libyan tragedy was another crucial point. That unhappy country was bombed by NATO, and eventually disintegrated. From the most prosperous African state it was converted into most miserable. Russian presence in Libya was rather limited, but still, Russia lost some investment there. Russia abstained in the vote on Libya as this was the position of the then Russian president Dmitry Medvedev who believed in playing ball with the West. In no way was Putin ready to abandon Syria to the same fate.
The Russian rebellion against the US hegemony began in June, when the Aeroflot flight from Beijing carrying Ed Snowden landed in Moscow. Americans pushed every button they could think of to get him back. They activated the full spectre of their agents in Russia. Only a few voices, including that of your truly, called on Russia to provide Snowden with safe refuge, but our voices prevailed. Despite the US pressure, Snowden was granted asylum.

The next step was the Syrian escalation. I do not want to go into the details of the alleged chemical attack. In the Russian view, there was not and could not be any reason for the US to act unilaterally in Syria or anywhere else. In a way, the Russians have restored the Law of Nations to its old revered place. The world has become a better and safer place.

None of this could’ve been achieved without the support of China. The Asian giant considers Russia its “elder sister” and relies upon her ability to deal with the round-eyes. The Chinese, in their quiet and unassuming way, played along with Putin. They passed Snowden to Moscow. They vetoed anti-Syrian drafts in the UNSC, and sent their warships to the Med. That is why Putin stood the ground not only for Russia, but for the whole mass of Eurasia.

The Church was supportive of Putin’s efforts; not only the Russian Church, but both Catholics and Orthodox were united in their opposition to the pending US campaign for the US-supported rebels massacred Christians. The Pope appealed to Putin as to defender of the Church; so did the churches of Jerusalem and Antioch. The Pope almost threatened to excommunicate Hollande, and the veiled threat impressed the French president. So Putin enjoyed support and blessing of the Orthodox Patriarchs and of the Pope: such double blessing is an extremely rare occassion.

There were many exciting and thrilling moments in the Syrian saga, enough to fill volumes. An early attempt to subdue Putin at G8 meeting in Ireland was one of them. Putin was about to meet with the united front of the West, but he managed to turn some of them to his side, and he sowed the seeds of doubt in others’ hearts by reminding them of the Syrian rebel manflesh-eating chieftains.

The proposal to eliminate Syrian chemical weapons was deftly introduced; the UNSC resolution blocked the possibility of attacking Syria under cover of Chapter Seven. Miraculously, the Russians won in this mighty tug-of-war. The alternative was dire: Syria would be destroyed as Libya was; a subsequent Israeli-American attack on Iran was unavoidable; Oriental Christianity would lose its cradle; Europe would be flooded by millions of refugees; Russia would be proven irrelevant, all talk and no action, as important as Bolivia, whose President’s plane can be grounded and searched at will. Unable to defend its allies, unable to stand its ground, Russia would’ve been left with a ‘moral victory’, a euphemism for defeat. Everything Putin has worked for in 13 years at the helm would’ve been lost; Russia would be back to where it was in 1999, when Clinton bombed Belgrade.
infidel fixer

Wiley Park, Australia

#43100 Oct 11, 2013
The acme of this confrontation was reached in the Obama-Putin exchange on exceptionalism. The two men were not buddies to start with. Putin was annoyed by what he perceived as Obama’s insincerity and hypocrisy. A man who climbed from the gutter to the very top, Putin cherishes his ability to talk frankly with people of all walks of life. His frank talk can be shockingly brutal. When he was heckled by a French journalist regarding treatment of Chechen separatists, he replied:
“the Muslim extremists (takfiris) are enemies of Christians, of atheists, and even of Muslims because they believe that traditional Islam is hostile to the goals that they set themselves. And if you want to become an Islamic radical and are ready to be circumcised, I invite you to Moscow. We are a multi-faith country and we have experts who can do it. And I would advise them to carry out that operation in such a way that nothing would grow in that place again”.
Another example of his shockingly candid talk was given at Valdai as he replied to BBC’s Bridget Kendall. She asked: did the threat of US military strikes actually play a rather useful role in Syria’s agreeing to have its weapons placed under control?
Putin replied: Syria got itself chemical weapons as an alternative to Israel’s nuclear arsenal. He called for the disarmament of Israel and invoked the name of Mordecai Vanunu as an example of an Israeli scientist who opposes nuclear weapons.(My interview with Vanunu had been recently published in the largest Russian daily paper, and it gained some notice).
Putin tried to talk frankly to Obama. We know of their exchange from a leaked record of the Putin-Netanyahu confidential conversation. Putin called the American and asked him: what’s your point in Syria? Obama replied: I am worried that Assad’s regime does not observe human rights. Putin almost puked from the sheer hypocrisy of this answer. He understood it as Obama’s refusal to talk with him “on eye level”.
In the aftermath of the Syrian stand-off, Obama appealed to the people of the world in the name of American exceptionalism. The United States’ policy is “what makes America different. It’s what makes us exceptional”, he said. Putin responded:“It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional. We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord’s blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal.” This was not only an ideological, but theological contradistinction.
As I expounded at length elsewhere, the US is built on the theology of exceptionalism, of being Chosen. It is the country of Old Testament. This is the deeper reason for the US and Israel’s special relationship. Europe is going through a stage of apostasy and rejection of Christ, while Russia remains deeply Christian. Its churches are full, they bless one other with Christmas and Easter blessings, instead of neutral “seasons”. Russia is a New Testament country. And rejection of exceptionalism, of chosenness is the underlying tenet of Christianity.
For this reason, while organised US Jewry supported the war, condemned Assad and called for US intervention, the Jewish community of Russia, quite numerous, wealthy and influential one, did not support the Syrian rebels but rather stood by Putin’s effort to preserve peace in Syria. Ditto Iran, where the wealthy Jewish community supported the legitimate government in Syria. It appears that countries guided by a strong established church are immune from disruptive influence of lobbies; while countries without such a church – the US and/or France – give in to such influences and adopt illegal interventionism as a norm.
infidel fixer

Wiley Park, Australia

#43101 Oct 11, 2013
As US hegemony declines, we look to an uncertain future. The behemoth might of the US military can still wreck havoc; a wounded beast is the most dangerous one. Americans may listen to Senator Ron Paul who called to give up overseas bases and cut military expenditure. Norms of international law and sovereignty of all states should be observed. People of the world will like America again when it will cease snooping and bullying. It isn’t easy, but we’ve already negotiated the Cape and gained Good Hope.
Israel Shamir reported from Moscow. He can be reached at [email protected]
(Language edited by Ken Freeland)
KAPEESHHHHHH BOGANS, Your convict leader the great satan Chickened out...LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, game up

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