Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46763 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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Anonymous

Flinders, Australia

#42373 Sep 12, 2013
The only good Muslim is a dead Muslim
Anonymous

Flinders, Australia

#42374 Sep 12, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>'Islamophobia' is a word that's more corrupt than those other left-wing Liberal trendy words we have to put up with on a daily basis.
"MultiCULTuralism
Enrichment
Diversity
Tolerance"
These words give genocide a new name in which to hide it's evil.
Yeah? I bet you're either a brainwashed white Brit or a Packy. I pitty good old England for all the trash you have let into your once great nation. Grow some balls ...Heil Hitler MFk'r!
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#42375 Sep 12, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text> from MUQ
You have worded it wrongly, One Western Scholar wrote "Islam is the best religion in the world and Muslims are the worst people on the world".
One more New convert to Islam said "If I had met these Muslims before I accepted Islam, probably I would not have accepted it. I accepted it only after studying Islamic teachings and not from Muslims.
Brother, you should know how to present your case properly.

Ans:
No, I said it correctly, but it is you who is not taking these quotes to their conclusions.
It is the teachings of Islam that is inspiring or causing Muslims to be the worst people in the world. There is no other explanation of why Muslims are the worst people in the world. This part is very clear.
Worst of

Bankstown, Australia

#42376 Sep 12, 2013
Serpent wrote:
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text> from MUQ
You have worded it wrongly, One Western Scholar wrote "Islam is the best religion in the world and Muslims are the worst people on the world".
One more New convert to Islam said "If I had met these Muslims before I accepted Islam, probably I would not have accepted it. I accepted it only after studying Islamic teachings and not
from Muslims.
Brother, you should know how to present your case properly.
Ans:
No, I said it correctly, but it is you who is not taking these quotes to their conclusions.

It is the teachings of Islam that is inspiring or causing Muslims to be the worst people in the world. There is no other explanation of why Muslims are the worst people in the world. This
part is very clear.
Indian 'part' muslims like MUQ are the worst of the worst.
They are the jizya of Islam.
No Arab will ever accept an Indian is the same as them before Allah.
No Indian can ever go to an Islamic heaven.
Heaven in Islam is reserved for Arabs (Quran).

Indian Muslims are lost souls, jizya slaves to a pagan belief that rejects them.
They have no real god (Allah is for Arabs only) and no heaven to go to.
I brilliant or what LLOL

Wiley Park, Australia

#42377 Sep 13, 2013
civilised, sophisticated Bogan Culture at its best, LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, get your kids buggered by your local priest LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,

A Roman Catholic priest in the US state of Missouri has been sentenced to 50 years in prison for producing child pornography.

The sentence was handed down by US District Judge Gary Fenner on Thursday and the Rev. Shawn Ratigan, 47, will likely spend the rest of his life in prison because there is no parole in the federal prison system.

In August of last year, Ratigan pleaded guilty to five counts of producing or trying to produce child pornography.

According to prosecutors, he photographed girls in and around churches where he worked in Kansas City, Missouri.

In December 2010, a computer technician found hundreds of photographs of five underage girls on Ratigan’s laptop while working on his laptop computer.

The technician reported his find to officials with the Catholic Diocese of Kansas City-St. Joseph. However, Bishop Robert Finn did not turn the photos over to police and sent Ratigan away for psychiatric evaluation.

The incidents led to criminal charges against Finn, making him the highest ranking US Catholic Church official convicted of criminal charges, the Kansas City Star reported.

Ratigan, apologized to his victims and their families before he learned about the sentence. However, he said on Thursday that he should not be sentenced to 50 years in prison.

“Prison is hell,” Ratigan said.“I know I deserve 15 years, but 50 years? Come on, I don't think so.”

ISH/ISH
I brilliant or what LLOL

Wiley Park, Australia

#42378 Sep 13, 2013
Bogan Satanic god is being buggered by others, LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, Bogans are desperate and are failing at every juncture..... Time to start kissing Muslims arse, LLOL, LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,LLOL.

The “American empire” is struggling to “destroy the Syrian army” because it wants to “destroy the resistance camp” and then “move to Iran,” says Belfast-based author and Middle East affairs expert Saeb Shaath.

“That is the strategic, sort of, focus of the United States of America. From there, we’ve seen they were carrying [out] the war in Syria and recruiting terror gangs from around 80 countries to carry out such battle,” Shaath said Thursday in a phone interview with Press TV.

On Thursday, The Washington Post reported that the CIA has begun delivering weapons to foreign-backed militants in Syria.

The news came after US President Barack Obama asked Congress to delay a vote on a draft resolution he had sent to Capitol Hill for the use of military force against Syria over the allegations that the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad used chemical weapons in an attack near capital Damascus last month. The Syrian government has categorically rejected the accusations.

Obama said he asked Congress to delay the vote on his call for military strikes against Syria in order to give a Russian diplomatic proposal a chance to play out.

On Tuesday, the Syrian government welcomed a proposal offered by Russia a day earlier to put its chemical weapons under international control.

Syria became a full member of the international treaty prohibiting chemical weapons after its ambassador to the United Nations submitted relevant documents on Thursday.

Earlier in the day, in an interview with a Russian TV channel, President Assad described his proposal to begin submitting data on his country’s chemical weapons within a month of signing the Chemical Weapons Convention as “a standard procedure.”

However, speaking at a news conference in the Swiss city of Geneva where he met with Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, US Secretary of State John Kerry said,“There is nothing standard about this process.”

Kerry also pushed the idea that Washington might still attack Syria, insisting that the US attack could happen if President Assad does not agree with some totally unspecified timetable.

Shaath told Press TV that the US-plotted “battles” against Syria and “the resistance camp” will not stop unless they are defeated “as the resistance did in 2006 in Lebanon.”
I brilliant or what LLOL

Wiley Park, Australia

#42379 Sep 13, 2013
Its a pity Bogans are illiterate, ignorant and plain stupid...LLOL,LLOL, they will never understand a brilliant piece of journalism below......

THE ROVING EYE
Al-Qaeda's air force still on stand-by
By Pepe Escobar

It was 12 years ago today. Historians will register that, according to the official narrative, 19 Arabs armed with box cutters and minimal flying skills pledged to a transnational Terror Inc turned jets into missiles to attack the US homeland, fooling the most elaborate defense system on Earth.

Fast forward to 2013. Here's a 15-second version of the President of the United States (POTUS) address on Syria, one day before the 12th anniversary of 9/11:
Our ideals and principles, as well as our national security, are at stake. The United States is "the

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anchor of global security". Although the United States military "doesn't do pin pricks", we still carry the burden to punish regimes that would flout long-held conventions banning the use of biological, chemical and nuclear weapons.

That's why I have decided to pursue an unlimited, targeted military strike against Washington DC.
For countless global citizens, this alternative version predictably sounds as far-fetched as the official version of what happened 12 years ago. The fog of war obscures in mysterious ways. But the fact remains that the current, "reluctant" (farcical) Emperor continues to stake his - and his nation's - "credibility" on a "limited", "kinetic" operation to reinforce his self-defined red line against chemical weapons.

Lose face, will travel
In theory, the Russian plan of having Damascus surrender its chemical weapons arsenal works because of its inbuilt Chinese wisdom; nobody loses face - from Obama and the US Congress to the European Union, the UN and the even more farcical "Arab" League, which is essentially a Saudi Arabian colony.

Although Obama is on a media blitzkrieg stealing the credit for it, Asia Times Online has confirmed that the plan was elaborated by Damascus, Tehran and Moscow last week - after a visit to Damascus by the head of the national security committee of the Iranian Majlis (parliament), Alaeddin Boroujerdi. US Secretary of State John Kerry's now famous "slip" provided the opening.

So, essentially, it's this "axis" - Damascus, Tehran and Moscow - that is helping Obama to crawl out of his self-inflicted abyss. Needless to say, that is absolutely unbearable for the plutocrats in charge of unleashing the new Syria (lethal) production. A brand new propaganda/manufactured hysteria campaign must be unfurled to justify war. And that's exactly what the Anglo-French-American axis is working on.

No wonder the French proposal for a new UN Security Council resolution falls under the UN's Chapter 7 - which would explicitly allow the use of force against Damascus in case of non-compliance. As it is, this resolution will inevitably be vetoed by Russia and China. And that will be the new pretext for war. The (farcical) emperor may easily invoke plausible deniability, stress he made "every effort" to avoid a military conflict, and then convince skeptics in the US Congress this is the only way to go.

And to think that a perfectly sound development of the Damascus-Tehran-Moscow plan is at hand. Syria's chemical weapons may be transferred to Russian - or European - supervision. Syria joins the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) and ratifies the Chemical Weapon Convention (CWC). OPCW inspectors start working in coordination with the UN. Every expert knows the whole process will take years.
I brilliant or what LLOL

Wiley Park, Australia

#42380 Sep 13, 2013
Damascus has already declared it's ready to join the OPCW and abide by the CWC. So Damascus does not need a UN Security Council resolution forcing it to do what it wants to do. Any serious, comprehensive UN resolution on chemical weapons across the Middle East would have to include Israel's chemical weapons. Note that nobody, absolutely nobody, is talking about Israel's vast arsenal of chemical, not to mention nuclear weapons.

The sound path, though, will not be followed - because Washington and its barking poodles afflicted with Sykes-Picot wet dreams, London and Paris, are already blocking it.

Fly me to the (war) moon
There are no signs that the Obama administration is prepared to even reconsider the yo-yo "Obama doctrine" all across the Middle East. This would imply dumping the Saudi-Israeli axis and making a concerted effort for the success of the Geneva II conference, the only possible diplomatic solution for the Syrian tragedy.

I have argued before that the (farcical) emperor is just a paperboy - a docile employee. Those who are paying for the upcoming lethal production, as in the House of Saud, or cheering in the sidelines, as in the Israel lobby, simply won't give up.

The House of Saud wants regime change, now. The Israel lobby/AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee) and its masters in Tel Aviv want a massive spillover of the Syria war into Lebanon to entangle Hezbollah. Financial Masters of the Universe, significant sectors of the industrial-military-security Orwellian/Panopticon complex, and Western-propped petro-monarchies want an independent, secular Arab republic profitably integrated in their monopoly.

The problem is the unilateral "kinetic" whatever may be too "limited" to satisfy the Saudi-Israeli axis and most of all the financial Masters of the Universe, and illegal enough to qualify as a war crime.

At least there is a counter-power. Asia Times Online has confirmed that an outstanding meeting will take place later this week in Kyrgyzstan, during the annual summit of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO). Picture Chinese President Xi Jinping, Russian President Vladimir Putin and new Iranian President Hassan Rouhani together, in the same room, discussing their common position on Syria. Iran is an SCO observer - and may soon be admitted as a full member. This is what the Anglo-French-American axis is up against.

And that brings us back to 12 years ago - and the myth that aluminum jets are able to penetrate the thick steel perimeters of the Twin Towers and kerosene is capable of instantaneously melting steel perimeters and steel cores into fluffy steel dust. Check this out and draw the necessary conclusions.

As for that "evil", transnational Terror Inc, it didn't even have a name when Jihad International hopefuls were being recruited in the early 1980s by assorted Islamic charities, and then trained and funded by the CIA and Saudi Arabia. One day the database was finally named - by the US - as "al-Qaeda". Or, more appropriately, "al-CIAeda". They were elevated to Ultimate Evil status. They did 9/11. They reproduced like rabbits from Mali to Indonesia. Now the CIA works side-by-side with them - as it did in Libya. And eagerly they await the US Air Force to clear their road to Damascus. Hey, it's just (war) business. Allahu Akbar.

Pepe Escobar is the author of Globalistan: How the Globalized World is Dissolving into Liquid War (Nimble Books, 2007), Red Zone Blues: a snapshot of Baghdad during the surge (Nimble Books, 2007), and Obama does Globalistan (Nimble Books, 2009).

He may be reached at [email protected]

(Copyright 2013 Asia Times Online (Holdings) Ltd. All rights reserved. Please contact us about sales, syndication and republishing.)

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

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#42381 Sep 13, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
<quoted text>
No angels literally ate food when they stayed at Lot's place
Genesis 19:2-3 And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night. And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.( These were the angels who destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah)
Fiction
sid

Chermside, Australia

#42382 Sep 13, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Fiction
You have to be careful taking bible translations too literally, the original translation may be incorrect, an angel in context of those times may have nothing to do with what we might call an angel today, in fact that might be the problem, there aren't too many angels around today as described in the OT, however there might be plenty of angels around today that fit the OT criteria of an angel, but we just call them something else.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#42384 Sep 13, 2013
sid wrote:
<quoted text>
You have to be careful taking bible translations too literally, the original translation may be incorrect, an angel in context of those times may have nothing to do with what we might call an angel today, in fact that might be the problem, there aren't too many angels around today as described in the OT, however there might be plenty of angels around today that fit the OT criteria of an angel, but we just call them something else.
We are led to believe by religions that angels have white feathered wings as described in their paintings .

Angels take the identity of a human body shape with no facial features or genitalia and communicates by thought so I don't understand where the big white bird came from unless the Greek mythology was included to juice up their writings .
MUQ pagan worshipper

Sydney, Australia

#42385 Sep 13, 2013
Proof of the lies of Islam by MUQ.
Let's start  with the Islamic prayer. 
Bismillah hir Rahman* nur Rahim* meaning: In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, Most Merciful etc.
Sounds like it's describing two attributes of one god?
Wrong.
 It was originally two gods, quite separate, and each worshipped independently. And the actual prayer, word for word dates back 400 years before 'Allah' was first concocted as new god of the Qareeshi tribes in the newly settled Mecca in 180AD. 

Allah was  worshipped via Hubal his earthly Idol and messenger. 
Tribute was paid to the owners of the Hubal Idol & divinity messages from "Allah" were delivered (where is my lost camel etc).
Hubal, called the 'Lord of the Ka'aba was  purchased in 180 AD and the clan owner consolidated two gods Al-Rahman-an and Al-Rahim  into their polytheistic summary as "Allah" 

So 'Allah' was not a  Jewish or an Ishmaelite abrahamic heresy. 
Allah (Al-Rahman-an & Al-Rahim) along with the Hubal idol was raw pagan nature  & devil god worship. 
The ishmaelites were at war with the pagan Allah worshippers. 

The rites & ceremonies practiced by pagan  "Allah" followers still pretty much continue into Islam. 
• Three fasts within the year;  two small ones and one of thirty days.
This was a seasonal cleansing of  parasites & worms from the body so had a practical basis.  
• Praying three times each day;  sunrise, noon, sunset, facing  towards Hubal  in the Ka'aba (Washington Irving, Mahomet and his successors, p. 31).
•A yearly pilgrimage or hajj, circumambulate the black stone (not the Ka'aba). The black stone was not part of the Ka'aba, which was the ablutions or toilet block for the hajj ritual. 
• The hajj  was a human gathering in the goat breeding season (mid october), with the women smearing their menses on the black stone and the men fingering, sniffing & licking the fluid & odor on the stone before selecting a partner with sex. 
The Quran refers to this obliquely and also directly and this ritual is now practiced by every Muslim visiting Mecca in the knocking shops and brothels today (an estimated 28,300  prostitutes service Mecca each Hajj - Mecca police chief 2012). 
• This pagan breeding ritual was in every township, around similar stone objects to try and introduce some randomness in a highly inbred arab nomadic gene pool. The Ka'aba was the area of the circle, and EVERY town had one. 
• At Mecca - the pagans ran between two hills called Safa and Marwa, on which were a male and a female idol, to sacrifice humans and animals in the name of these deities.
• Male pilgrims shaved their heads and the ritual was performed naked. Female pilgrims had a locks of hair cut off. Later they were naked under  muslin 'shifts' that still allowed easy sniffing and coupling to the ritual. 

So -'Allah' himself is of two pagan gods and a Qareeshi  clan consolidated the separate nature moon gods to one Idol (Hubal).
• Muhammad replaced Hubal as "Allah's messenger". A human pagan walking talking idol. 
• The ka'aba & black stone & hajj rituals continue as pagan rituals.
•Neither Allah nor any 'Islamic' ritual has any Abrahamic origin. 
•Every Islam today repeats a prayer to composite polytheistic pagan god of "Allah".
This is the fakery of Islam. 
Bogensexpat

Asia/Pacific Region

#42386 Sep 13, 2013
I think inside the kabaa ( which is formerly a pagan temple and holy site) theres statue of gods with statue of mohamed worshipping them
JBH

Surrey, Canada

#42387 Sep 13, 2013
++++
| Posted by: roboblogger
Russian Leader Draws Fire With Letter
Full story: Wall Street Journal
Russian President Vladimir Putin fired a salvo into the U.S. political debate on Syria with an opinion piece arguing against an attack-in language that reflected the Kremlin's yearslong effort to refine Russia's image in America

+++

Related to the above report,Putin is just one person saying, as lots of people of the world say much tougher than that--US is an awful, downgraded country. These Americans ARE ALREADY feeling DEGRADED, as THERE IS NOT MUCH TO IT FORM WHAT PUTIN SAYS.

But, Putin is not sure what his position is about, as he says he is not concerned about the Syrian government, as which side is he on?

US logo, status and image have been drifting down and down and draining and going down after Obama has made them worse since Bush time, so there is nothing new from Putin's saying.

Most people would say Obama is like a nobody as he is no match to any one in general, including bringing up Assad lately, to be Obama versus Assad then.

Putin is just a bunch of talks, with no exercising by showing the actions, with example of military proposition or demonstration to Syria region.
Russia has not shown as how effective its weapons and military are. Since there is no action, Not Only Russia would have come up with penalties to US before Or if US strikes Syria and also US in war of Iraq, the world should do too.

It seems to be so timid, as US bombed Belgrade of Serbia, where was Russia regarding any military supplies of anti-missiles, fighter jets and radar systems for Serbia?

If US strikes Syria, see then how the S-300 system from Russia works. The Scud missiles are too old, and won't do much at all.

All along was the fighting between Syria and the rebels, US suddenly came up with the chemical weapons issue as to make false excuse in order to say to strike Syria.

Now, they keep talking about the chemical weapons.
So, instead of focusing on the infighting,now they are doing the chemical weapons checking.
Putin has fallen to this hole too.
Putin is afraid to show military position and acts and demonstration to a certain extent, by giving talks. The destroyer and any navy ships sent to ME region, perhaps are used to monitor for just checking, with no involvement then,like former Serbia case.
What is the big deal about Russia from Putin, for people have not seen the conditions and any effective military hardware or military moves and acts from Russia to demonstrate, so as to give the look or appraisal of how they are like?.
As all are bunch of words of mouth, facts are such that people around the world have to do their own things in targeting the US military aggression.
Anonymous

Flinders, Australia

#42388 Sep 13, 2013
Just to clarify the topic title;

"Why should australia Fear from Muslims?"

Ummm... Because they're gramma is attrocious?

Since: Jun 12

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#42389 Sep 13, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Fiction
Only to disbelievers such as yourself

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#42390 Sep 13, 2013
sid wrote:
<quoted text>
You have to be careful taking bible translations too literally, the original translation may be incorrect, an angel in context of those times may have nothing to do with what we might call an angel today, in fact that might be the problem, there aren't too many angels around today as described in the OT, however there might be plenty of angels around today that fit the OT criteria of an angel, but we just call them something else.
The only thing you need to be careful of is applying your own interpretation to a word that was originally written in Hebrew that was well understood by the people of the day. Pray tell what your criteria is for being an angel and how it was used in the example of Lot. Also if you don't call them angels what were they called in your opinion? The OT scripture was written in Hebrew and means the same today as the day it was written so the only was it can be mistranslated is if people such as the Greeks have mistranslated it.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

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#42393 Sep 14, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
<quoted text>
Only to disbelievers such as yourself
Disbeliever in what ,the Hebrew version or what I encountered ?
Rauf lala

Ashburn, VA

#42394 Sep 14, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Disbeliever in what ,the Hebrew version or what I encountered ?
A story of a Guru and his 4 female disciples

Guruji was meditating
4 disciples went up to him and told "Guruji we have committed a sin".

Guruji: hey what sin? what did you do?

1st disciple: Guruji I saw a man's penus

Guruji: it's alright, you go to Ganges river and wash your eyes with the holy water of Ganges

2nd disciple: Guruji I touched a man's penus and helped him to masturbate.

Guruji: go wash your hands with the holy water of Ganges.

3rd and 4th disciples fighting

Guruji: hey stop, why are you fighting?

3rd disciple: Guruji she(4th disciple) washed her arse in the water, how can I wash my mouth with that dirty water?

Guruji:???
Leviathan

Colebee, Australia

#42395 Sep 14, 2013
I brilliant or what LLOL wrote:
Great good news http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013... KILL Kill kill YOUR OWN !! you Backward dirty Apes , MORE MORE MORE....

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