Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46820 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#42289 Sep 7, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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How do you know that Allah is male ?
Allah is neither male of female, He is above these Genders which are only for humans and other living creatures.

But We need a pronoun to address our Creator, and when choosing we have to use which are best and powerful...that is why Masculine Pronouns are used for Allah and that is what He has chosen Himself in His revelations...

Allah Knows Best.

Thanks for asking a very good question!!
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#42290 Sep 7, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Does communicating directly with god count as being better than being within a religion ?
Allah does not communicate directly with any one...it is only thru the medium of angels. And the best of that communication is with Prophets and Messengers who serve as intermediary between God and humans.

Even if other people seem to receive some hints of some kind of revelation, it is not as a general ruling and can in no way supercede what is revealed to a prophet.

Allah Knows best.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#42291 Sep 7, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Allah is neither male of female, He is above these Genders which are only for humans and other living creatures.
But We need a pronoun to address our Creator, and when choosing we have to use which are best and powerful...that is why Masculine Pronouns are used for Allah and that is what He has chosen Himself in His revelations...
Allah Knows Best.
Thanks for asking a very good question!!
God is god that needs no title other than god which explains everything .

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#42292 Sep 7, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Allah does not communicate directly with any one...it is only thru the medium of angels. And the best of that communication is with Prophets and Messengers who serve as intermediary between God and humans.
Even if other people seem to receive some hints of some kind of revelation, it is not as a general ruling and can in no way supercede what is revealed to a prophet.
Allah Knows best.
Does that mean then that I am an angel ?
MUQ taqiyya

Sydney, Australia

#42293 Sep 8, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Allah does not communicate directly with any one...it is only thru the medium of angels. And the best of that communication is with Prophets and Messengers who serve as intermediary between God and humans.
Even if other people seem to receive some hints of some kind of revelation, it is not as a general ruling and can in no way supercede what is revealed to a prophet.
Allah Knows best.
Allah doesn't know anything as he does not exist. Allah the pagan moon god of the quareesh had his earthly idol Hubal destroyed circa 630 AD and since then, has not been able to receive or send any messages at all.
God does not appoint "prophets" via angels.
Phophets according to abraham could only come from the seed of issac etc - Ishmael was not legitimate seed and was outcast into paran (Sinai) 2,500 years before Mecca even existed.
The only voice in the cave with Muhammad was Abu Bakr.. The whole world knows islam is a pathetic confection of other people's beliefs with some pagan moon god rituals added in.
The black stone (pieces of Allah's face fallen from heaven..) give lie to Allah being a nature god of a moon god over flat earth of the Arabs..
The Muslims today worship the fake remnants of these pieces of Allah - pagan nature god idol object worship.
So once again MUQ you lie.
Even the silly Quran itself exposes you as a liar.
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Your taqiyya is pathetic or is this shirk ?
(As you make false claims about false gods).
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I think your guilty of shirky taqiyya this time.
Islam homosexuality

Sydney, Australia

#42294 Sep 8, 2013
An interesting fact about Islam is that it actively condones homosexuality.
See the previous post about how Islam recruits it's religious leaders in such a way, and why these clerics or devout nutters become that way as they were abused as young boys by Islam condoning that.

Homosexuality is condoned in the Koran.
There are also conflicting views of Homosexuality
in the Koranic verses. So some scriptures condemn it, Sura 4:16; 7:80-81; 26:165; 27:55. But the key & overriding Suras that condone it.

Warraq explains: "A GREAT TOLERANCE FOR HOMOSEXUALITY IN THE ISLAMIC WORLD
HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED FOR A LONG TIME.

From the 19th century onward, many westerners have been going to Muslim north Africa to look
for homosexual adventure that their own society [Christian] condemned" (references).
"Islam supports this - in the passage of the Koran describing the delights of paradise [Heaven]...(ibid., p.341).
Sura 52:24 says, "We shall unite the true believers with those of their descendants who follow them in their faith, and shall not deny them the reward of their good works...Fruits we shall
give them, and such meats as they desire.
They will pass from hand to hand a cup inspiring no idle talk, no sinful urge; and there shall wait and serve upon them YOUNG BOYS OF THEIR OWN AS FAIR AS VIRGIN PEARLS" (see also 56:17; 76:19).
In the book 99 names for God by Judith Miller she examines these scriptures about having sex
with young boys. She demonstrates to you that these scriptures do mean Homosexual relations with these boys.
"...are these boys available for sexual dalliance, or are they only to serve?(Warraq, p.342)
Homosexual marriage were known among the Arabs: "We have enough historical and philological evidence to show homosexuality was widespread in Islamic Arabia. Our evidence is RICHER FOR THE 7TH CENTURY...During the Abassid period there seems to have been many Caliphs who were Homosexual...As for Muslim
Spain in the 11th century Henery Peres tells us:'Sodomy is practiced in all courts of the Muluk Al-Tawaif" (ibid, p.342).
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Mohammad had double standards on Sodomy. He discouraged it on earth (however a number of Sura's indicate he was an active participant in
the practice) and he says that Muslims can enjoy homosexuality in Paradise as a pleasure & reward.
It is a well established fact that many highly
religious & 'devout' Muslims are practicing homosexuals who use the Koran to justify their actions and deviancy, especially with the young boys they cultivate to be as they have become.
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Allah had told Muslims they will be rewarded in heaven with the deviancy they seek.
Vernon

Brisbane, Australia

#42295 Sep 8, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Wait till they become majority and you run back to your "Queen" in England, as a boy runs to his "mama"!!
The Topic of thread is, "Why are Australians afraid of Muslims".
Your post answers it all!!
What ! talking Shiite as usual.
They will never be the majority here, your Racist Hate Filled Comrades can't get past the killing of each others Children , Gassing , Bombs, molestation as being normal, your disorganized rabble cant even organize to feed your own.

Look At your Muslim culture A TOTAL FAILURE
Look at your holy lands, A TOTAL FAILURE

http://media.winnipegfreepress.com/images/APT...

When one of your self proclaimed clerics detonate the big one

We will wipe you lot of the face of the earth you fools.

http://inktank.fi/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/...

This is your future.
I brilliant or what LLOL

Brisbane, Australia

#42296 Sep 8, 2013
Dog Tamer wrote:
<quoted text>
Vomit up your vile Muslim Sexual filth, you sexual depraved immigrant. Go back to Where You Come From You Gutless Sack Of Shiite.
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LLOL,LLOL, Another Gay bogan whose arse is on fire when confronted with truth, but we are not going to call the fireeeee's, we will let your pork banger filled arse burn in fire....LLOL,LLOL,LLOL
Baboon fixer

Brisbane, Australia

#42297 Sep 8, 2013
I brilliant or what LLOL wrote:
<quoted text>-0
LLOL,LLOL, Another Gay bogan whose arse is on fire when confronted with truth, but we are not going to call the fireeeee's, we will let your pork banger filled arse burn in fire....LLOL,LLOL,LLOL
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#42299 Sep 8, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Does that mean then that I am an angel ?
If you eat, drink, sleep and have call of nature, you are not an angle, a very simple test!!

Applies from lowest to the highest, even to Jesus!!
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#42300 Sep 8, 2013
Vernon wrote:
What ! talking Shiite as usual.
They will never be the majority here, your Racist Hate Filled Comrades can't get past the killing of each others Children , Gassing , Bombs, molestation as being normal, your disorganized rabble cant even organize to feed your own.

Look At your Muslim culture A TOTAL FAILURE
Look at your holy lands, A TOTAL FAILURE

http://media.winnipegfreepress.com/images/APT ...

When one of your self proclaimed clerics detonate the big one

We will wipe you lot of the face of the earth you fools.

http://inktank.fi/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/ ...

This is your future.
Ans.

I am not talking as a |Shia or as a Sunni, but only as a Muslim.

Thanks for your "well wishes" for Islam and Muslim countries.

Let us just wait and see, just wait and see and have good sleep, eat well and be happy!!

I did not know that you were is "Astrology business", predicting future!!
Islam slopes downward

Australia

#42301 Sep 9, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
If you eat, drink, sleep and have call of nature, you are not an angle, a very simple test!!
Applies from lowest to the highest, even to Jesus!!
MUQ, thats a strange definition of an angle.
Of course islam is full of such queer views.
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The angle or slope of islam is easily recognized.
It slants from the absurd down into hell.
With the Muslim's sliding down on it.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#42302 Sep 9, 2013
Islam slopes downward wrote:
<quoted text>
MUQ, thats a strange definition of an angle.
Of course islam is full of such queer views.
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The angle or slope of islam is easily recognized.
It slants from the absurd down into hell.
With the Muslim's sliding down on it.
What I wrote is a very "practical" test to separate chaff from grain.

No one will give you such a simple and foll proof test!!

And if you wonder from where I got it, It is from Quran!!
Rock Solid Dog Tamer

Perth, Australia

#42303 Sep 9, 2013
I brilliant or what LLOL wrote:
<quoted text>-0
LLOL,LLOL, Another Gay bogan whose arse is on fire when confronted with truth, but we are not going to call the fireeeee's, we will let your pork banger filled arse burn in fire....LLOL,LLOL,LLOL
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-22874...

Whose arses are on fire.

Burn on earth

Burn in hell

Its the Muslim way, More Please
Kaka bubu

Perth, Australia

#42304 Sep 9, 2013
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More GAS Please
Islam slopes downward

Australia

#42305 Sep 9, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
What I wrote is a very "practical" test to separate chaff from grain.
No one will give you such a simple and foll proof test!!
And if you wonder from where I got it, It is from Quran!!
Oh dear. The movie trailer "Innocence of the Muslim's",, has nothing on you MUQ.
You suffer from two things,
1. Heretical Arab recidivist judaistic indoctrination (Islam)
2. Literalism and lack of contextual logic (Indian).
Your the only person who has read parts of the Quran but still don't understand any of it and you even believe in some spirit of a long dead stone idol Hubal as your lord and somehow this is the jewish god yahweh ..(your words).

The joke is that you used the word angles to define what is or is not an angle.
Clearly this is not an angle of the hun or visgoth. Maybe it's was an obtuse or acute angle?
Or as said in the case of Islam the only angle that goes around appointing 'prophets' is the angle of a slippery slope down into hell.
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Sigh. You are an entertaining idiot but sometimes for your own sake you need to be told you are little more than clown outside the mosque..
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Even if you believed in all the religious mumbo, the poor invention of Islam got this all wrong. God (of the Jews that you fetish) does not
appoint prophets via an angles, or even angels.
Are you going to dispute Judaism now.
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Muq, why dont you get some training and spend time with the Jews of the Talmud of which Islam is a poor fakery & heretic apostasy. Or study the life & times of Yusuf and how the heretical Red Sea arabised Hamyarites then emerged as the paganised virus of Islam, long before any Muhammad or Bakr or Utham even put a name to it. Then you might understand why Islam is such a pathetic tainted confection of bad angles.
I brilliant or what LLOL

Brisbane, Australia

#42306 Sep 9, 2013
When will Bogans learn....Never, they are toooooooo dumarsed.......LLOL<LLOL,LL OL

THE ROVING EYE
The (farcical) emperor is naked
By Pepe Escobar

There is nothing tragic about the Obama presidency, capable of drawing the analytical talents of a neo-Plutarch or a neo-Gibbon. This is more like a Pirandello farce, a sort of Character in Search of An Author.

Candidates to Author are well documented - from the Israel lobby to the House of Saud, from a select elite of the industrial-military-security complex to, most of all, the rarified banking/financial elite, the real Masters of the Universe. Poor Barack is just a cipher, a

functionary of empire, whose ''deciding'' repertoire barely extends to what trademark smile to flash at the requisite photo-ops.

There's nothing ''tragic'' about the fact that during this week - marking the 12th anniversary of 9/11 - this presidency will be fighting for its bombing ''credibility'' trying to seduce Republican hawks in the US Congress while most of the warmongers du jour happen to be Democrats.

Republicans are torn between supporting the president they love to hate and delivering him a stinging rebuke - as much as they are aching to follow the orders of their masters, ranging from the American Israel Public Affairs Committee to military contractors. Once again, this is farce - caused by the fact that a man elected to finish off wars is eager to start yet another one. And once again without a United Nations vote.

The White House ''strategy'' in this crucial negotiating week boils down to this; to convince the US Congress that the United States must start a war on Syria to punish an ''evil dictator''- once again, as bad as Hitler - for gassing children. The evidence? It's ''indisputable''.

Well, it's not ''irrefutable''. It's not even ''beyond-a-reasonable-doubt''. As Obama's Chief of Staff Denis McDonough admitted, with a straight face, it boils down to ''a quite strong common sense test, irrespective of the intelligence, that suggests that the regime carried this out''.

So if this is really about ''common sense'', the president is obviously not being shown by his close coterie of sycophants this compendium of common sense, compiled by a group of top, extremely credible former US intelligence officials, which debunks all the ''evidence'' as flawed beyond belief. To evoke a farce from 12 years ago, this clearly seems to be a case of ''facts being fixed around the policy''.

And to compound the farce, this is not even as much about Syria per se as about ''sending a message to Iran'', code for ''if you keep messing with us, you're going to be bombed.''

Follow the plutocrats
Then there's the ''credibility'' farce. The Obama administration has convoluted the whole world in its own self-spun net, insisting that the responsibility for the ''red line'' recklessly drawn by the president is in fact global. Yet the pesky ''world'' is not buying it.

The Arab street doesn't buy it because they clearly see through the hypocrisy; the desperate rush to ''punish'' the Bashar al-Assad government in Syria while justifying everything the apartheid state of Israel perpetrates in occupied Palestine.

The Muslim world doesn't buy it because it clearly sees the demonization only applies to Muslims - from Arafat to bin Laden to Saddam to Gaddafi and now Assad. It would never apply to the military junta in Myanmar, which was clever enough to engineer an ''opening''; the next day Westerners were lining up to kiss the hem of Burmese longyis.

It would never apply to the Islam Karimov dictatorship in Uzbekistan because ''we'' always need to seduce him as one of our bastards away from Russia and China.

It eventually applies, on and off, to the Kim dynasty in North Korea, but with no consequences - because these are badass Asians who can actually respond to an US attack.
I brilliant or what LLOL

Brisbane, Australia

#42307 Sep 9, 2013
Informed public opinion across the developing world does not buy it because they clearly see, examining the historical record, that Washington would never really be bothered with the sorry spectacle of Arabs killing Arabs, or Muslims killing Muslims, non-stop. The 1980-1988 Iran-Iraq war is a prime piece of evidence.
At the Group of 20 summit last week, the BRICS group of emerging powers - Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa - as well as Indonesia and Argentina, clearly stressed that a war on Syria without UN Security Council approval would qualify Obama as a war criminal.
Even among the European poodles ''support'' for the White House is extremely qualified. Germany's Angela Merkel and even France's attack dog Francois Hollande said the primacy is with the UN. The European Union as a whole wants a political solution. It's enlightening to remember that the EU in Brussels can issue arrest warrants for heads of EU governments guilty of war crimes. Someone in Paris must have warned attack dog Hollande that he would not welcome the prospect of slammer time.
''Evil'' as a political category is something worthy of the brain dead. The key question now revolves around the axis of warmongers - Washington, Israel and the House of Saud. Will the Israel lobby, the more discreet but no less powerful Saudi lobby, and the Return of the Living Dead neo-cons convince the US Congress to fight their war?
And then there's the curioser and curioser case of al-Qaeda - essentially the Arabic denomination for a CIA database of US-Pakistani-Saudi trained mujahideen during the 1980s: the oh so convenient transnational bogeyman that ''legitimized'' the Global War On Terror (GWOT) of the George W Bush years; the ''opening'' for al-Qaeda to move to Iraq; and now, no middle men; the CIA and the Obama administration fighting side-by-side with al-Qaeda in Syria. No wonder the denomination ''al-CIAeda'' has gone viral.
I brilliant or what LLOL

Brisbane, Australia

#42308 Sep 9, 2013
With farce after farce after farce piling up in their own Tower of Babel, the much-vaunted ''US credibility'' is in itself the biggest farce of all. Politically, no one knows how the vacuum will be filled. It won't be via the UN. It won't be via the BRICS. It won't be via the G-20 - which is seriously divided; at least new multipolar players are carrying way more weight than US poodles.
Much would be made to restore ''US credibility'' if the Obama administration had the balls to force both the House of Saud and Qatar (''300 people and a TV station'', in the epic definition of Saudi Arabia's Prince Bandar Sultan - aka Bandar Bush) to end once and for all their weaponizing of hardcore ''rebels'' and ultimately hardcore jihadis, and accept Iran in the negotiating table for a real Geneva II peace process in Syria. It won't happen because this bypasses farce.
Once again; helpless Barack is just a paperboy. The plutocrats in charge are getting extremely nervous. The system is melting - and they need to act fast.
They need a Syria as docile as the Arab petro-monarchies. They want to hit Russia bad - and then discuss missile defense and Russian influence in Eastern Europe from a position of force. They want to hit Iran bad - and then continue to issue ultimatums from a position of force. They want to facilitate yet another Israeli attempt to capture southern Lebanon (it's the water, stupid). They want a monster gas pipeline from Qatar for European customers bypassing Iran and Syria as well as Gazprom. Most of all, this is all about control of natural resources and channels of distribution.
These are real motives - and they have nothing to do with farce. Farce is only deployed to kill any possibility of real diplomacy and real political discussion. Farce is a theatrical mask - as in ''humanitarian'' imperialism - the ''acceptable'' version of the Dick Cheney-run years.
It's as if Dick Cheney had never left the building; paperboy Barack is Dick Cheney with a ''human'' face. The only good outcome in this multi-sorrowful tale is that the real ''international community'', all around the world, has seen the naked Emperor in all its (farcical) glory.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#42311 Sep 9, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
If you eat, drink, sleep and have call of nature, you are not an angle, a very simple test!!
Applies from lowest to the highest, even to Jesus!!
How do you know this seeing Islam's last experience with an angel was about 1400 years ago with Muhammad and nobody else .

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