Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46759 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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I brilliant or what LLOL

Ryde, Australia

#42307 Sep 9, 2013
Informed public opinion across the developing world does not buy it because they clearly see, examining the historical record, that Washington would never really be bothered with the sorry spectacle of Arabs killing Arabs, or Muslims killing Muslims, non-stop. The 1980-1988 Iran-Iraq war is a prime piece of evidence.
At the Group of 20 summit last week, the BRICS group of emerging powers - Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa - as well as Indonesia and Argentina, clearly stressed that a war on Syria without UN Security Council approval would qualify Obama as a war criminal.
Even among the European poodles ''support'' for the White House is extremely qualified. Germany's Angela Merkel and even France's attack dog Francois Hollande said the primacy is with the UN. The European Union as a whole wants a political solution. It's enlightening to remember that the EU in Brussels can issue arrest warrants for heads of EU governments guilty of war crimes. Someone in Paris must have warned attack dog Hollande that he would not welcome the prospect of slammer time.
''Evil'' as a political category is something worthy of the brain dead. The key question now revolves around the axis of warmongers - Washington, Israel and the House of Saud. Will the Israel lobby, the more discreet but no less powerful Saudi lobby, and the Return of the Living Dead neo-cons convince the US Congress to fight their war?
And then there's the curioser and curioser case of al-Qaeda - essentially the Arabic denomination for a CIA database of US-Pakistani-Saudi trained mujahideen during the 1980s: the oh so convenient transnational bogeyman that ''legitimized'' the Global War On Terror (GWOT) of the George W Bush years; the ''opening'' for al-Qaeda to move to Iraq; and now, no middle men; the CIA and the Obama administration fighting side-by-side with al-Qaeda in Syria. No wonder the denomination ''al-CIAeda'' has gone viral.
I brilliant or what LLOL

Ryde, Australia

#42308 Sep 9, 2013
With farce after farce after farce piling up in their own Tower of Babel, the much-vaunted ''US credibility'' is in itself the biggest farce of all. Politically, no one knows how the vacuum will be filled. It won't be via the UN. It won't be via the BRICS. It won't be via the G-20 - which is seriously divided; at least new multipolar players are carrying way more weight than US poodles.
Much would be made to restore ''US credibility'' if the Obama administration had the balls to force both the House of Saud and Qatar (''300 people and a TV station'', in the epic definition of Saudi Arabia's Prince Bandar Sultan - aka Bandar Bush) to end once and for all their weaponizing of hardcore ''rebels'' and ultimately hardcore jihadis, and accept Iran in the negotiating table for a real Geneva II peace process in Syria. It won't happen because this bypasses farce.
Once again; helpless Barack is just a paperboy. The plutocrats in charge are getting extremely nervous. The system is melting - and they need to act fast.
They need a Syria as docile as the Arab petro-monarchies. They want to hit Russia bad - and then discuss missile defense and Russian influence in Eastern Europe from a position of force. They want to hit Iran bad - and then continue to issue ultimatums from a position of force. They want to facilitate yet another Israeli attempt to capture southern Lebanon (it's the water, stupid). They want a monster gas pipeline from Qatar for European customers bypassing Iran and Syria as well as Gazprom. Most of all, this is all about control of natural resources and channels of distribution.
These are real motives - and they have nothing to do with farce. Farce is only deployed to kill any possibility of real diplomacy and real political discussion. Farce is a theatrical mask - as in ''humanitarian'' imperialism - the ''acceptable'' version of the Dick Cheney-run years.
It's as if Dick Cheney had never left the building; paperboy Barack is Dick Cheney with a ''human'' face. The only good outcome in this multi-sorrowful tale is that the real ''international community'', all around the world, has seen the naked Emperor in all its (farcical) glory.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#42311 Sep 9, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
If you eat, drink, sleep and have call of nature, you are not an angle, a very simple test!!
Applies from lowest to the highest, even to Jesus!!
How do you know this seeing Islam's last experience with an angel was about 1400 years ago with Muhammad and nobody else .
JBH

Vancouver, Canada

#42312 Sep 9, 2013
THERE IS TO BE NO CHEMICAL WEAPONS ISSUE ABOUT SYRIA, so that US cannot strike Syria to enlarge the civil war by escalating in addition to kill more people.

Enough is enough done by US of bad stand and direction in the past, BECAUSE US has done extremely and too much unwanted chaos of lacking human principles to the rights of people of Middle East by causing turmoils from showing US degrading creed.

Anyhing from US by telling of its absolute proof, even with interception of phone conversation, as if other Syrians were speaking as regime officers, is simply rejected (Because there is no truth to it.)

UN must make it clear that chemical weapons issue is not the case of Syria.
NO US presentation of evidence or proof is of the public business matter in UN as must be discarded and Russia must also tell UN to do so.

NO UN chemical weapons reports are to be presented, as solely to accomplish the public business on the basis of not to enlarge the civil war by escalating in addition to further destroying the human rights and existence of more people as US has done too much of, to a very large degree in the ME region--this is to achieve the changing direction in the region from all the bad things US has done, that US is ruled out of its say in ME, so that US is not to do any more bad things again in the region.
Kaka bubuDago Coward

Australia

#42314 Sep 9, 2013
I brilliant or what LLOL wrote:
I agree the US should stay out of Syria



They should put the DOME around that country and fill it with GAS !!
JBH

Vancouver, Canada

#42315 Sep 9, 2013
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Syria welcomes Russia's call on Syria to surrender control over chemical weapons
Full story: Ottawa Citizen
Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Mouallem speaks to the media after his talks with Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov, unseen, in Moscow on Monday, Sep

++++====

As is troubling, US already has done too many wars in ME region, and has done unjust atrocities of slaughtering too may people AND BY TRANSGRESSION in the region.

Obama is extremely dangerous person on earth as of now.

NO,SYRIA SHOULD NOT HAND OVER ANY CHEMICAL WEAPONS. RUSSIANS are very bad and suffer humiliation by telling Syria to do so. Russia is beyond being sloppy, it is just very ugly of Russians to tell Syria in fear of US strike, or tends to do things in a mess. RUSSIA IS JUST TOO STUPID.

Let the world see how Russia will vote in UN. Let the world see if US dares to strike Syria. Let see the world sentiments and reaction to US daring to strike Syria. The fact is THAT the world is against US strike Syria. Syria has nothing to lose by not turning in any chemical weapons.

THAT ASSAD SAYS HE HAS NOT USED CHEMICAL WEAPONS IS WHAT IT MATTERS AND COUNTS. Example is WHEN some people are poisoned by bad alcohol, US points to someone. But that someone says he has not used poisoned alcohol--they need to find out if evidence is true and who really did the poisoning as the question is just who has done that--it could be anyone by masterminding doing the poisoning , including US.

Syria needs to examine any elements within regime and military that has been infiltrated, linked to rebels or US elements to do any chemical weapons usage at just one time to show, particularly when UN inspectors were in, that Outside US CIA might get in , for this is the great opportunity on that date of 8/21 to do usage of any sain gas, as one-time thing deliberately for them to have easy phone tapping and other things too, so that the finger pointing will be easier.

Syria must declare that, without going by proper procedure, it is unlawful for rebels to do violence to have lots of people killed, while Syria is endeavoring the best to handle the problems of the country to make the agenda of the direction for the future. Obama is very dangerous, vicious with bad standpoint against the world people, including the Syrian people at a time for their critical needs, to damage the world diversities of people in doing his malicious cleansing of world spectrum.

US had used chemical weapons against its people before and Agent Orange in Vietnam which caused and made lots of soldiers and people die already.

A lot of countries have chemical weapons and have they used them, or might have used them before, including US?
Why does US want to strike on Syria by pointing TO DO GENOCIDE AND MAKE MORE PEOPLE WORLDWIDE SUFFER?
As is troubling, US already has too many wars in ME region, and has done unjust atrocities of slaughtering too may people AND BY AGGRESSION in the region.

The people in Syria already suffer badly from hunger,ill conditions from rebels fighting, while US inhumane way of ugly claws is showing to the world against the Syrian people.
US trying to do cleansing of world diversities of people is clearly very vivid in apparent display to want to strike Syria.

US has dug in a big hole by jumping to conclusion, with dirty scheme with no way out.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#42316 Sep 9, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

Dimming Nation

By Linh Dinh



Joe Flacco got flacks for being overheard blurting “Fuckin’ awesome!” on air, and upright citizens griped over Alicia Key’s jazzy rendition of the National Anthem. Led by our cynical and sinister media, we sure know how to scrutinize, carp and fine tune our moral, civic and aesthetic standards. Whenever Pentagon troops are shown, we cheer, as if consenting to their killing or being slaughtered for the same ruling elite that are destroying us here, back home. The military has been thoroughly woven into our lives. After winning the Super Bowl, the Ravens paraded in Humvees chauffeured by soldiers.

With its specific tint, tone and irreplacable meaning, each word has its place, and none is obscene if used properly, but any word can rape the ear and mind if spewed by hypocritical assholes. When the President of the United States of America intones “freedom,”“democracy,”“shining example,”“beacon” or “security,” for example, you best duck and dive into your bunker.

In the Superdome, poor, helpless citizens were abandoned by their uncaring and negligent government not long ago, but for this big bash, tickets went from $850 to $1,250, with fans coughing up much more on the black market. New Orleans is back, they keep saying, but poisoned by the BP oil spill after being slammed by Katrina, the entire region is still in distress. It hasn’t been wrecked by nature, as much as greed and bad government.

With its French, Spanish, Creole and black-infused culture intact, New Orleans remains one of America’s most alluring cities, for sure, but there is no denying its widespread poverty and extremely high crime rates. With The Times Picayune published only three days a week, it is also the only one without a daily newspaper.

The homeless are all over this city. They sprawl in Marigny, Faubourg Lafayette and the Warehouse District. In the French Quarter, they pick leftover drinks and food from trash cans. Scavengers collect cans and bottles. Less than a mile from the Superdome, there was a homeless encampment of up to 200+ people, near the Amtrak Station, but it was cleared in November. You wouldn’t want fans arriving by train to see so much desperation and squalor, would you? Nearby, New Orleans Mission has 252 beds, but it costs $5 to get in for the night, though you’ll get dinner also.

The homeless are all over this country, and blackouts will become more common, just like in the Third World. Living in Vietnam in 1999-2001, I experienced a blackout nearly every day. Lights, fans and computer would suddenly wheeze out and stay off for a couple hours, sometimes longer, occasionally less, eliciting cheers, literally. Sweating, I’d lie down on the tiled floor, fan myself and mumble,“Am I in the Superdome during Katrina or what? Who’s winning? What’s the score? Where’s my Corexit appetizers?”

So you steer your Kia to the levee, but the levee is broken. The good old boys are downing your life saving and mine, singing,“This is the day America dies.” As the US wheezes out, your house, too, will abruptly turn unbearably hot or cold, if you’re still under a roof, that is, and not camping out under the Pontchartrain Expressway.

Linh Dinh is the author of two books of stories, five of poems, and a novel, Love Like Hate .. He’s tracking our deteriorating socialscape through his frequently updated photo blog, State of the Union
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#42317 Sep 9, 2013
Kaka bubuDago Coward wrote:
<quoted text> I agree the US should stay out of Syria
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =x6GYavzaNy0XX
They should put the DOME around that country and fill it with GAS !!
And I wish, half of that gas leaks to that Zionist state of Isreal and the problem get solved. Muslims will be replaced in Syria, but from where they would get those Zionist, hate monger Jews?
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#42318 Sep 10, 2013
NT wrote:
How do you know this seeing Islam's last experience with an angel was about 1400 years ago with Muhammad and nobody else .
Ans.

No one has become an angel in past 1400 years!!

The test is there , try it and you will find it fool proof.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#42319 Sep 10, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
No one has become an angel in past 1400 years!!
The test is there , try it and you will find it fool proof.
What is this, nobody has become an angel ?
MUQ wrong yet again

Minto, Australia

#42320 Sep 10, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
No one has become an angel in past 1400 years!!
The test is there , try it and you will find it fool proof.
Huh ? Did you mean nobody has become a prophet (visited by an angel which is mistake by Islam when cobbled together by the Arabs).
Or did you mean no one has become an angel ?
An angel... that according to Islam is in the image of a person & speaks to you, but you never see them eating or drinking or sleeping or going to the toilet. That's most people on tv or the Internet as one example.
So most images of humans on tv or the Internet are now angels,, according to Islam.
The madness of Islam.
Tell us about the flat earth and how the heavens are a tent over it. with Allah the moon god up there and 'pieces of his face' falling down to be worshipped as part of him.
A black stone that 'talks' to the Muslim as the spirit of the lord of the Kaaba (hubal the idol) infuses the stone with a crackling spirit fire when the Muslim fingers, sniffs, licks & tounges it within it's vulva case.
Is that an angel too? These pieces of Allah you all bow like frogs and pray to 5 times a day?
A handful of desert gravel fragments encased in resin, after the real black stone was taken & completely destroyed by the qarmations in 920ad?
You have no idea MUQ.
The Jews said only god himself spoke to an appointed prophets.
Islam copies the Jews but then corrupts what they say.
Islam then takes their corruption to worship moon god and moon god objects (that have been
proven fake even in what they pretend to be).
How could someone be so stupid to believe in this mumbo ?
MUQ - there are No angels, No god of the moon, no Allah, No lord of the Kaaba, No black stone that is even as it was. No Quran of anyone but some opportunists copying from others & failing to understand what they copied.
The Islamic corruption of Judaism re an 'angel' appointing a prophet is just one obvious glaring mistake in the confected construction of Islam.
Having made the mistake, Islam tries to defend it but everyone knows it's another thing that gives away how fake it all is.
/
Islam is for heretics who are too lazy & dumb to check just how false & illogical their own islam is,,, while they decry others who they copied from..
MUQ - Go tell the Jews their Talmud is false and the angels appointed prophets,, because Abu Bakr & Muhammad got that bit wrong..
Sure they will listen to you...
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#42321 Sep 10, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
First you have to prove that any other religion is better than Islam,
see.
What's so difficult about that, Islam is the worst religion on earth, Muslims are fighting and killing each other everyday, that's proof enough !!!
No other religion is doing this...
I brilliant or what LLOL

Ryde, Australia

#42322 Sep 10, 2013
Kaka bubuDago Coward wrote:
<quoted text> I agree the US should stay out of Syria
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =x6GYavzaNy0XX
They should put the DOME around that country and fill it with GAS !!
LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, another Bogan uneducated shiteface whose arse is on fire, LLOL,LLOL, we will be sending you back to Bogan motherland to die in your pork filled gutter GAS,LLOL,LLOL, muslims are taking over surely but slowly, eat your pork banger filled heart out lard face....LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,LL OL,LLOL,LLOL,
I brilliant or what LLOL

Ryde, Australia

#42323 Sep 10, 2013
Hey Biggly Bogan BOOOOOs, LLOL,LLOL, what are you going to do? your satanic master has blinked, LLOL, Putin has a bigger dik and he aint backing off, LLOL,LLOL, besides your satan master is on the verge of starvation..........what are you going to do?.......oh yea arse kissers as you are now its time to sharpen your chop sticks.....LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,LLOL ....

Poverty levels in New Jersey are bad and getting worse, as a quarter of the state's households now struggle to afford housing, food, medical care and other necessities, according to a new report by a leading poverty research group.

The study, released Sunday by the Legal Services of New Jersey Poverty Research Institute, says that in one of the nation's wealthiest states, 2.1 million people live in households that have a hard time meeting their basic needs. That number grew by about 359,000 during and after the Great Recession and now comprises 24.7 percent of New Jersey residents.

Hardest hit is Passaic County, where 37 percent of the residents are poor, followed by Cumberland, Essex and Hudson counties, while Bergen County's rate stands at 18 percent. Even in Morris, Hunterdon and Somerset and other wealthy counties in northern New Jersey, 10 to 14 percent of the residents are poor, according to the report, which is based largely on 2011 data from the US Census Bureau.

The number of households having a hard time staying afloat financially highlights the underside of a state where the median household income ranked third in the country in 2011.

"The numbers are very troubling," said Melville Miller, president of the legal services agency. "It's very bleak. That awfulness needs the attention of society, writ large."

The institute defined poverty as living on incomes less than twice the official poverty line. The 173-page report, the seventh annual study by the institute, goes into great detail about how the official poverty rate masks actual financial woes in New Jersey because it fails to account for the higher cost of living in a state where median home prices are twice the national average and rents are 30 percent higher.

Officially, a family of four with an income below $23,550 is considered to be in poverty, with the same figure applying throughout the country. But the report contends that New Jersey households remain poor until their incomes are at least double the official levels.

The poverty rate by the official measure stands at 10.4 percent, less than half the rate as defined by the institute.

While more people struggle to get by, the report cites major obstacles to reversing the trend, including continued high unemployment, wages that fail to keep up with inflation, a loss of middle-class jobs, a lack of low-priced housing and inadequate government aid for the poor. It notes that Superstorm Sandy made things worse by disproportionately damaging housing where lower-income households lived.

The findings reflect problems afflicting suburban areas throughout the New York City metropolitan area, said Christopher Jones, vice president of research for the Regional Plan Association, which advocates for economic development.

"Growing poverty in the suburbs is a major issue for the country as a whole and one that has been growing with increasing intensity over the last two decades in the New York region," Jones said. "It's a major concern for New Jersey's economy that's not going to go away just with increased growth in the economy."

The report, breaking down poverty by age, race, work status and other factors, said that in large measure, children and Hispanics bore the biggest brunt of increased poverty. NorthJersey.com

AT/ARA

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#42324 Sep 10, 2013
MUQ wrong yet again wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh ? Did you mean nobody has become a prophet (visited by an angel which is mistake by Islam when cobbled together by the Arabs).
Or did you mean no one has become an angel ?
An angel... that according to Islam is in the image of a person & speaks to you, but you never see them eating or drinking or sleeping or going to the toilet. That's most people on tv or the Internet as one example.
So most images of humans on tv or the Internet are now angels,, according to Islam.
The madness of Islam.
Tell us about the flat earth and how the heavens are a tent over it. with Allah the moon god up there and 'pieces of his face' falling down to be worshipped as part of him.
A black stone that 'talks' to the Muslim as the spirit of the lord of the Kaaba (hubal the idol) infuses the stone with a crackling spirit fire when the Muslim fingers, sniffs, licks & tounges it within it's vulva case.
Is that an angel too? These pieces of Allah you all bow like frogs and pray to 5 times a day?
A handful of desert gravel fragments encased in resin, after the real black stone was taken & completely destroyed by the qarmations in 920ad?
You have no idea MUQ.
The Jews said only god himself spoke to an appointed prophets.
Islam copies the Jews but then corrupts what they say.
Islam then takes their corruption to worship moon god and moon god objects (that have been
proven fake even in what they pretend to be).
How could someone be so stupid to believe in this mumbo ?
MUQ - there are No angels, No god of the moon, no Allah, No lord of the Kaaba, No black stone that is even as it was. No Quran of anyone but some opportunists copying from others & failing to understand what they copied.
The Islamic corruption of Judaism re an 'angel' appointing a prophet is just one obvious glaring mistake in the confected construction of Islam.
Having made the mistake, Islam tries to defend it but everyone knows it's another thing that gives away how fake it all is.
/
Islam is for heretics who are too lazy & dumb to check just how false & illogical their own islam is,,, while they decry others who they copied from..
MUQ - Go tell the Jews their Talmud is false and the angels appointed prophets,, because Abu Bakr & Muhammad got that bit wrong..
Sure they will listen to you...
By the Jewish version god has paid me a visit ,wonder what the Catholics version would be ?
Who

UK

#42325 Sep 10, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
By the Jewish version god has paid me a visit ,wonder what the Catholics version would be ?
Saint Roger Bend Over.
Kaka bubuDago Coward

Sydney, Australia

#42326 Sep 10, 2013
I brilliant or what LLOL wrote:
<quoted text>
LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, another Bogan uneducated shiteface whose arse is on fire, LLOL,LLOL, we will be sending you back to Bogan motherland to die in your pork filled gutter GAS,LLOL,LLOL, muslims are taking over surely but slowly, eat your pork banger filled heart out lard face....LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,LL OL,LLOL,LLOL,
More Holy Muslim Gas Please
You devout God fearing people !!
fronnnel

Donora, PA

#42328 Sep 10, 2013
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#42329 Sep 10, 2013
Serpent wrote:
<quoted text>
What's so difficult about that, Islam is the worst religion on earth, Muslims are fighting and killing each other everyday, that's proof enough !!!
No other religion is doing this...
You have worded it wrongly, One Western Scholar wrote "Islam is the best religion in the world and Muslims are the worst people on the world".

One more New convert to Islam said "If I had met these Muslims before I accepted Islam, probably I would not have accepted it. I accepted it only after studying Islamic teachings and not from Muslims.

Brother, you should know how to present your case properly.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#42330 Sep 10, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

The Real State Of The Union Is Bleak

By James Kunstler

February 13, 2013 "Information Clearing House" - The fog of chatter about Federal Reserve money-printing shenanigans, currency wars, fiscal intransigence, exchange rates, and alphabetized rescue operations conceals the central reality of the historical moment: that all industrial economies now face epic contraction, even rip-roaring China in its absurd and spectacular bid to become the latest drive-in utopia.

The so-called advanced nations of the world are all sliding toward something less than they wish to be, and the so-called developing nations will backslide further into poverty and anarchy where development will never happen. The implacable contraction underway is the simple result of growing scarcity of cheap oil, the master resource.

Thus, in a world where fantasy has replaced analysis, the propaganda channels brim with false news of America's coming "energy independence" and the rebirth of domestic manufacturing, the coming electric car fleet, and space tourism.

There is also chatter among the paranoid that an imagined elite has deliberately engineered American collapse for fun and profit, with sideshows about the Department of Homeland Security promoting social upheaval in order to make a show of putting it down. This is all b.s. concealing the futile machinations of people so unfortunate as to hold political office in an unraveling they can't control. Where control is no longer possible, paranoid fantasies fill the vacuum of wishing for control.

One thing you can be sure of: the current sociopolitical weather will change. A front will blow through and sweep the fog away. So many circles of hazard are spinning around events that some fast-turning object will come off its axis and start smashing all the fantasies.

When that happens, it will be every community for itself, and where there are no real communities -- for instance, the vast matrix of suburban noplaces that America emergently composed itself out of in a tragic quest to become its own televised fantasy -- we'll discover the dark side of the "liberty" that so-called conservatives endlessly invoke, in all its screaming eagle iconography.

Not since the Civil War (1861 - 65) has anything bad of this scale happened within the United States itself and the public is unprepared despite our total immersion in the on-screen ersatz heroics of avatars such as Dwayne Johnson. The terrible convulsion of the 1860s was preceded by a political time much like ours is now, with figures (calling them leaders is inaccurate) of no conviction backpedaling furiously toward strife.

Remember these things if you tune in to watch President Obama move his lips on Tuesday amid the incessant applause in the House chamber. He'll speak the words "climate change" and the hall will rock with thunderous handclapping -- but it won't mean anything because both the president and the people have no intention of changing the way we live. Mr. Obama will cheerlead for economic growth and he will be talking out of his ass. It's the nature of this contraction that economic growth is absent.

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