Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

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About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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01. Quranic copies from first century of Islam to fifteenth century have no difference. Blatant lie.
02. Muslims conquered by vanishing the “Two Super Powers” of the time. Blatant lie.
MUQ this is not correct. Everyone knows the jews had a kingdom in that area (red sea) and that Islam is just a virulent apostasy of that. The T'ubah jewish
ishmaelite kingdom and their book is what Muhammad preached before it was corrupted. The Quran is just a variant of that with pagan gods & rituals added in. So the Quran is neither original or consistent. Uthmans Quran is not of Islam btw and it was rewritten many times...
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But let's get onto your claim that Islam defeated the two super powers of the region. What a liar !
In the red sea the Himyarites who practiced the book of tubah that muhammad preached... Were Jews and Arabs united in the persecution & hatred of Christians & Jesus. At war with the sabeans & pagans, Allah & YHWH/Abraham at war.. That's how corrupt & fake Islam really is.
Around 520ad Yusuf the last king of the Himyarites committed a massacre of Christians & other faiths at Najran. Over twenty thousand were killed by fanatic Arabs in this Jewish synthetic ethnic variant of Judaism(familiar ??).
Justin of byzantine then sent a large force and absolutely destroyed the himyarite kingdom.
Muhammad & Abu Bakr were born into an area in a power vacumn. Abu Bakr added in pagan idols & objects that he owned, leveraged muhammad as a peon to attack these himyarite
Jew ishmaelites on their last legs anyway.
Islam is a weed spawned from the collapse of red sea Judaism.
Much later after the murder of Muhammad. the roman empire was collapsing. Syria & Arabia were abandoned. Islam's first 'conquest' Syria was the governor of Syria deciding to use pagan tribute (jizya) as the roman empire could not fund
or maintain the colony. No arab Islam army or clerics conquered anything, the dark ages, plague and death of civilization had begun and Islam spread in the plague and darkness of
these abandoned places. Islam was now many different Islam's with different qurans. Civil wars followed & Islam was finished, until the mongols (khan II) adopted Islam for non believer tax jizya, AFTER their empire had been conquered.
Today most Muslims (like you MUQ) don't know what they believe or even why.
For example: you seriously believe Allah & hubal (lord of the Kaaba) is YHWH - when the Allah & Sabean cults fought the Jews against exactly that. Even in your own brainwashing & idol worship, you still dont even understand Islam correctly.
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http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/three-men-assaulted...

Obviously these car jackers are Muslim Lebs, the 9 on 3 description gives it away, Lebs don't fight unless it's these kind of odds. Stop saying "Mediterranean on Middle Eastern" press, start saying "dirty, filthy Muslim Leb dogs".

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01. Rest of the copies got damaged or lost over past 14 centuries, nothing lasts for ever. But enough copes were made form those six originals, so that their loss was not felt.
And one can verify this claim by looking at Quranic copies from first century of Islam to fifteenth century, finding no difference in any of them.
02. How Muslims conquered those places is not subject of our present discussion. They conquered it by vanishing the “Two Super Powers” of the time at the same time.
Those were wonderful days of rise of Islam and the feat and its permanency was unmatchable by any religion.
Will any one believe that Buddhism actually originated in India? Or that Christianity originated in Palestine?
You have voiced that copies had been made because the originals had been destroyed or lost !
How could such a thing happen to most sacred words within Islam ?
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You have voiced that copies had been made because the originals had been destroyed or lost !
How could such a thing happen to most sacred words within Islam ?
Are you trying to just engage in endless talks?

What was the use of those Copies? So that every one can make copies from it and check and verify it with originals.

That was done hundreds of thousands of fold and millions memorized it in their hearts.

Those copies were perishable and they perished with time. One still survives in TopKopy Museum in Turkey and I am told that one more copy is available in Tashkent.

Want to make issue of it? You should find two copies of Quran anywhere in the world that are different from each other.

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The dominant culture in Oz is the bogan comprised mostly of anglo's, and they have ruined this country. They came here in boats rejected from their own country and have leached off the welfare ever since. Yet they don't like it when others do the same. Due to their laziness this country doesn't produce anything, due to their dumbness this country has to import doctors, engineers, cooks, IT people and toilet cleaners from china and india, due to their racism and ugly culture, nobody good wants to immigrate here except the desperate. All they aspire to is to become tradesman or work in the mines. They look down on anyone who tries to improve themselves with education, and take pride in being stupid. They know nothing about the world, and are only capable of having conversations that don't revolve around sport.
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What we do know is , that we financially support approximate 400,000 and more coming into Australia every day.
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If things are this bad why don't you leave!!!
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Shall I tell them why you do not leave.
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Where else in thew world are you going to be able to receive tax free an Income of approximate $100,000.00 for doing nothing.
By the way it is called social security.
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Where else in the world are you going to get free Medical, Free doctors, free surgeons, free hospital, Free dental, medicine at a reduced price.
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Where else in the world re you going to get a 4 bedroom brick house at $416 a month.
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Where else in the world are you going to get 10% off your telephone bill, your gas bill, your electricity bill, and free running potable water in your home..
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Where else can you go to a christian charity and get up to $100.00 in cash by your wife telling lies, that you give her no money.
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Good old Bogans Christians who live in Australia.
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How the fck do you think that we can pay you so well?
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The answer is by working you moron.
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Last survey there was around 2.5 doctors per thousand people.
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An Average Australian educated doctor earns $300,000.00
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We bring second rate Indian doctors or Pakistani doctors educated in India into Australia, they have to go back to university for 2 years to get a certificate to be able to practice in Australia.
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Or practice at a country Hospital for 5 years before they can move to a city, the last few Muslim costors we brought in we had to jail them for malpractice.
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Saudi the richest country in the Middle East have 1.37 per thousand people.
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The first time you or your family ever seen a doctor was when you set foot in Australia.
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Of all the countries in the world Australia ranks 13th highest GDP,
I do not see Lebanon or Egypt ranking anywhere near there.
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If you are not happy leave.

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MUQ wrote:
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Are you trying to just engage in endless talks?
What was the use of those Copies? So that every one can make copies from it and check and verify it with originals.
That was done hundreds of thousands of fold and millions memorized it in their hearts.
Those copies were perishable and they perished with time. One still survives in TopKopy Museum in Turkey and I am told that one more copy is available in Tashkent.
Want to make issue of it? You should find two copies of Quran anywhere in the world that are different from each other.
You are missing something .
Seeing they were all written the same time as the original manuscript would they "all" fade pretty much the same time so what would they used as written proof when the memory of it faded ?
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Neville Thompson wrote:
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You are missing something .
Seeing they were all written the same time as the original manuscript would they "all" fade pretty much the same time so what would they used as written proof when the memory of it faded ?
The quran 'original' in the topkapi museum in Instanbul (have been there, seen that) was proven fake.
It is Not of Uthman (who was murdered by Abu
Bakr & Aisha, like Muhammad was before him & Ali after him).
The quick history is Mehmed Ali Pasha, Governor of Egypt, sent it to the Ottoman Sultan Mahmud II in 1811Ad as the wider ottoman
empire started to collapse.
A full forensic shows it was written only several centuries before, the Quran having changed
substantially with the Turks, Mongol & other overlords of Islam rewriting the Quran
Extracts from the forensic on this document.
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"Did this Qur'an belong to the third caliph ?
The answer is no. There are a number of other Qur'ans [St. Petersburg, Samarqand, Istanbul and two at Cairo, viz., at al-Hussein mosque and al-Kutub al-Misriyyah turning up in different parts
of the world, almost all purporting to show be of the third caliph Uthman but on pages (lots of detail debunking it's validity) moreover the
manuscript shows the script, illumination and marking of vowels (details of falsehood).
Furthermore, this manuscript was assessed by
al-Munajjid who did not consider it to be from the time of caliph".
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So there you go MUQ - NO valid claim.
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No Quran 'of Uthman'(which was not the Bakri
Quran anyway..they state they had their own).
No original Quran has ever been found.
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And whats really interesting is that even the scholars of Islam can tell,,, what period a Quran
is from - by what new lies were added & what old lies were omitted !!!!
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So MUQ all your rabbiting on about the pure and unchanged Quran has just been proven wrong.
It's not true. You are ignorant of islamic history, and compelled to lie to cover up the real story.
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Now MUQ back to the topic.
It seems what we most fear from Muslims is their inabilty to face the truth & their will to adopt idol
& pagan heresy.
So MUQ : when Abu Bakr murdered Muhammad on his fourth assassination attempt, poisoning him via Aisha & then murdering Uthman & then murdering Ali as facts show.
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MUQ,
• did this mean Allah was on Abu Bakr's side?

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MUQ more taqiyya wrote:
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The quran 'original' in the topkapi museum in Instanbul (have been there, seen that) was proven fake.
It is Not of Uthman (who was murdered by Abu
Bakr & Aisha, like Muhammad was before him & Ali after him).
The quick history is Mehmed Ali Pasha, Governor of Egypt, sent it to the Ottoman Sultan Mahmud II in 1811Ad as the wider ottoman
empire started to collapse.
A full forensic shows it was written only several centuries before, the Quran having changed
substantially with the Turks, Mongol & other overlords of Islam rewriting the Quran
Extracts from the forensic on this document.
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"Did this Qur'an belong to the third caliph ?
The answer is no. There are a number of other Qur'ans [St. Petersburg, Samarqand, Istanbul and two at Cairo, viz., at al-Hussein mosque and al-Kutub al-Misriyyah turning up in different parts
of the world, almost all purporting to show be of the third caliph Uthman but on pages (lots of detail debunking it's validity) moreover the
manuscript shows the script, illumination and marking of vowels (details of falsehood).
Furthermore, this manuscript was assessed by
al-Munajjid who did not consider it to be from the time of caliph".
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So there you go MUQ - NO valid claim.
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No Quran 'of Uthman'(which was not the Bakri
Quran anyway..they state they had their own).
No original Quran has ever been found.
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And whats really interesting is that even the scholars of Islam can tell,,, what period a Quran
is from - by what new lies were added & what old lies were omitted !!!!
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So MUQ all your rabbiting on about the pure and unchanged Quran has just been proven wrong.
It's not true. You are ignorant of islamic history, and compelled to lie to cover up the real story.
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Now MUQ back to the topic.
It seems what we most fear from Muslims is their inabilty to face the truth & their will to adopt idol
& pagan heresy.
So MUQ : when Abu Bakr murdered Muhammad on his fourth assassination attempt, poisoning him via Aisha & then murdering Uthman & then murdering Ali as facts show.
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MUQ,
• did this mean Allah was on Abu Bakr's side?
I am very curious how Islam could have overlords like the Turks or the Mongols and how their seat of spiritual power could be moved elsewhere ?
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Neville Thompson wrote:
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You are missing something .
Seeing they were all written the same time as the original manuscript would they "all" fade pretty much the same time so what would they used as written proof when the memory of it faded ?
I think you are moving in a circle, like a dog chasing its tail, get over it.

Ask pertinent questions.... not just for the sake of asking.
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Jul 28, 2013
 
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"It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few
by deceit." - Noël Coward -(1899-1973) British playwright

"I count myself as a spiritual sister to those the US government has murdered,
and I am angry at my powerlessness." - Karen Kwiatkowski

"The most shocking fact about war is that its victims and its instruments are individual
human beings, and that these individual beings are condemned by the monstrous conventions
of politics to murder or be murdered in quarrels not their own" Aldous Huxley -
English novelist and critic, 1894-196
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The quran 'original' in the topkapi museum in Instanbul (have been there, seen that) was proven fake.
It is Not of Uthman (who was murdered by Abu
Bakr & Aisha, like Muhammad was before him & Ali after him).
The quick history is Mehmed Ali Pasha, Governor of Egypt, sent it to the Ottoman Sultan
Mahmud II in 1811Ad as the wider ottoman
empire started to collapse.
A full forensic shows it was written only several
centuries before, the Quran having changed
substantially with the Turks, Mongol & other
overlords of Islam rewriting the Quran
Extracts from the forensic on this document.
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"Did this Qur'an belong to the third caliph ?
The answer is no".
"There are a number of other Qur'ans [St. Petersburg, Samarqand, Istanbul and two at Cairo, viz., at al-Hussein mosque and al-Kutub al-Misriyyah turning up in different parts
of the world, almost all purporting to show be of the third caliph Uthman but on pages (lots of
detail debunking it's validity) moreover the
manuscript shows the script, illumination and marking of vowels (details of falsehood).
Furthermore, this manuscript was assessed by
al-Munajjid who did not consider it to be from the time of caliph".
/
So there you go MUQ - NO valid claim.
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No Quran 'of Uthman'(which was not the Bakri
Quran anyway..they state they had their own).
No original Quran has ever been found.
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And whats really interesting is that even the
scholars of Islam can tell,,, what period a Quran
is from - by what new lies were added & what old lies were omitted !!!
-
So MUQ all your rabbiting on about the pure and
unchanged Quran has just been proven wrong.
It's not true. You are ignorant of islamic history, and compelled to lie to cover up the real story.
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Now MUQ back to the topic.
It seems what we most fear from Muslims is their inabilty to face the truth & their will to adopt idol
& pagan heresy.
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So MUQ : when Abu Bakr murdered Muhammad
on his fourth assassination attempt, poisoning him via Aisha & then murdering Uthman & then murdering Ali as facts show.
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MUQ,
• did this mean Allah was on Abu Bakr's side?
Interesting, no original Koran at all exists.
That's what it says, no copy even of the original ones by the Urthman fellow. He burnt other versions of the Korans as well so there were lots of different ones.
And as you reveal : the Muslim scholar himself let slip there are different versions & different interpretations.
Question for you, who decided on the ridiculous clothing and genital mutilation of muslim woman? Was that Muhammad, or was that added in later to punish all woman for the sins of Ayesha when she killed Mohammed ?
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I am very curious how Islam could have overlords like the Turks or the Mongols and how their seat of spiritual power could be moved elsewhere ?
When you become Muslim, you get the same right as any one else in Islam.

Our prophet said "There is no superiority of an Arab over a Non Arab, or a Non Arab over an Arab....there is no Superiority of a white person over a black person, nor a brown person over white person....you all are children of Adam and Adam was made from dust"!!(AU KAMA QAAL.

Islam came to destroy these linguistic and ethnic and geographical barriers that separate children of Adam from one and other.

It is a Universal brother hood, the caliphate changed hands from nation to nation. It was first in Madina, then moved to Damascus, then to Baghdad, Cairo...... Istanbul etc.
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When you become Muslim, you get the same right as any one else in Islam.
Our prophet said "There is no superiority of an Arab over a Non Arab, or a Non Arab over an Arab....there is no Superiority of a white person over a black person, nor a brown person over white person....you all are children of Adam and Adam was made from dust"!!(AU KAMA QAAL.
Islam came to destroy these linguistic and ethnic and geographical barriers that separate children of Adam from one and other.
It is a Universal brother hood, the caliphate changed hands from nation to nation. It was first in Madina, then moved to Damascus, then to Baghdad, Cairo...... Istanbul etc.
You are being a bit dishonest there, MUQ aren't you???

Is it not true that women are subject to the will of men?

Therefore a Muslim Father, Husband, Brother are superior and have authority over Muslim women?

So only a Brotherhood, the sisterhood doesn't count.

So only 50% of Muslims are equal.

But what of slaves? There are Muslims who own Muslim slaves?

Are they not under the authority of another Muslim?

Your statements are always full of holes.

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When you become Muslim, you get the same right as any one else in Islam.
Our prophet said "There is no superiority of an Arab over a Non Arab, or a Non Arab over an Arab....there is no Superiority of a white person over a black person, nor a brown person over white person....you all are children of Adam and Adam was made from dust"!!(AU KAMA QAAL.
Islam came to destroy these linguistic and ethnic and geographical barriers that separate children of Adam from one and other.
It is a Universal brother hood, the caliphate changed hands from nation to nation. It was first in Madina, then moved to Damascus, then to Baghdad, Cairo...... Istanbul etc.
OH REALLY????????? Then why does that not apply to the women in Islam who are treated no better than chattel!!!!!!!!!!

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I think you are moving in a circle, like a dog chasing its tail, get over it.
Ask pertinent questions.... not just for the sake of asking.
You're the dog chasing it's tail constantly spinning fantasies re what Islam is supposed to represent. Do as I say and not what I do that should be the motto of Islam that you spout, you filthy hypocrite because that is the reality
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You are being a bit dishonest there, MUQ aren't you???
Is it not true that women are subject to the will of men?
Therefore a Muslim Father, Husband, Brother are superior and have authority over Muslim women?
So only a Brotherhood, the sisterhood doesn't count.
So only 50% of Muslims are equal.
But what of slaves? There are Muslims who own Muslim slaves?
Are they not under the authority of another Muslim?
Your statements are always full of holes.
Is there ANY system in the world where EVERYONE is Master and there is no one under any one?

It is me who is dishonest, or you are trying to hide some thing?

Women are not "bondage" to men, but Men are "protectors of women", because they have "more strength" than women and because "They Spend" their monies on them.

Go and look thru out the world, how many women support their husbands and how many husbands support their wives?

Slaves are those who are captured during the battlefield, it was an economic solution to the problem of the time.

And you people give false impression that it was Islam "which invented slavery".... while there is no "civlized nation" in the world that did not had slaves.

It is only very recently that slavery has been abolished , because now machines do most of jobs which needed human power.

Islam does not say that "it is must" you should have slaves. Talk by seeing both pros and cons of Islamic teachings.
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"I hope I shall possess firmness and virtue enough to maintain what I consider
the most enviable of all titles, the character of an honest man." - George Washington
"It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few
by deceit." - Noël Coward -(1899-1973) British playwright
"I count myself as a spiritual sister to those the US government has murdered,
and I am angry at my powerlessness." - Karen Kwiatkowski
"The most shocking fact about war is that its victims and its instruments are individual
human beings, and that these individual beings are condemned by the monstrous conventions
of politics to murder or be murdered in quarrels not their own" Aldous Huxley -
English novelist and critic, 1894-196
Some good quotes there, MUQ. They should help you think.

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Is there ANY system in the world where EVERYONE is Master and there is no one under any one?
It is me who is dishonest, or you are trying to hide some thing?
Women are not "bondage" to men, but Men are "protectors of women", because they have "more strength" than women and because "They Spend" their monies on them.
Go and look thru out the world, how many women support their husbands and how many husbands support their wives?
Slaves are those who are captured during the battlefield, it was an economic solution to the problem of the time.
And you people give false impression that it was Islam "which invented slavery".... while there is no "civlized nation" in the world that did not had slaves.
It is only very recently that slavery has been abolished , because now machines do most of jobs which needed human power.
Islam does not say that "it is must" you should have slaves. Talk by seeing both pros and cons of Islamic teachings.
Trying to justify slavery in the modern world shows you for the ratbag that you are. It is still happening in Islam today and is promoted by their filthy prophet

This is how muslim's "protect" womem.

They marry more than one wife

They abuse and have sex with "booty"/slaves that are captured to this day

They slash them with razors

They stone them to death

They denigrate their worth and say they are worth worth than that of a man

They throw acid on their face and bodies

They murder them in honour killings and get away with it

They rape young girls and say it is what Mohammad taught.

They encourage FGM

They make women cover up because they can't control their filthy lust filled desires

You make me sick you pathetic pedophile!!!!!!!!!!

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Some good quotes there, MUQ. They should help you think.
Islam doesn't teach thinking all it teaches is submission and not to question what allah has stated. There is no critical analysis allowed of Islam why do you think they are still based back in the 7th century? Why do you think they are trying to ban free speech?

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