Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46758 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Scoop.

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#41473 Jul 29, 2013
Rosa Winkel wrote:
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Some good quotes there, MUQ. They should help you think.
Islam doesn't teach thinking all it teaches is submission and not to question what allah has stated. There is no critical analysis allowed of Islam why do you think they are still based back in the 7th century? Why do you think they are trying to ban free speech?
MUQ lost

Australia

#41474 Jul 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Is there ANY system in the world where EVERYONE is Master and there is no one under any one?
It is me who is dishonest, or you are trying to hide some thing?
Women are not "bondage" to men, but Men are "protectors of women", because they have "more strength" than women and because "They Spend" their monies on them.
Go and look thru out the world, how many women support their husbands and how many husbands support their wives?
Slaves are those who are captured during the battlefield, it was an economic solution to the problem of the time.
And you people give false impression that it was Islam "which invented slavery".... while there is no "civlized nation" in the world that did not had slaves.
It is only very recently that slavery has been abolished , because now machines do most of
jobs which needed human power.
Islam does not say that "it is must" you should have slaves. Talk by seeing both pros and cons
of Islamic teachings.
MUQ, you need to admit you lied about the topaki museum quran being one of the orginals. It is not and the proof is on this thread for all to see / islamic scholars say its not authenic & of a later 'version' of the quran.
You need to admit that Hubal was a stone god idol owned by abu bakr & you worshipping this 'spirit' is idol & devil worship. No worshipper of allah via hubal also worshipped YHWH - these were opposed beliefs, separate gods.
Muq, you need to accept Islam is but a virus - cultivated by the jews (book of T'ubah then the Hamyarites) of fanatical pagan Arabs fetishing & plagarising from around them to create the synthetic apostasy of islam.
Muq, you need to face the fact that Abu Bakr & Aisha killed muhammad, because at the end of his days even muhammad rescinded his claims.
You also need to accept that Abu Bakr went on to kill Uthman (because Uthman further corrupted the mess islam was already in) and then Abu Bakri killed Ali.
You have to face the fact that you are not equal in Islam, esp to any Arab and if you are not Arab you can not go to an Allah heaven.
You do realise your forebears were either quisling collaborators of the Mongol/mughul conquest of islam and weak jizya avoiding traitors to the Indian nation & spiritual beliefs.
We also realize you are 'trapped' in islam - a non jizya paying slave, virtually treated as an untouchable by the Arabs 'Quran & hadeeth rule every Arab 'has to wash themselves clean if they come in contact with you'.
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It perhaps only would be worse if you were female as well. Swaddled in a sheet with a cloth helmet on, butchered & mutilated, treated worse than a swaddled pig, completely denied any rights or education, kept like a pot plant... that would complete the living hell that Islam is for
the people oppressed in it.
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Its a bit like you have stockholm fever MUQ...
The more Islam plies it's oppression, lies, discrimination and blatant heresy on you - the
more you lap it up & try to rationalize it to others.
Wake up man. Face facts. You more than most Muslims have been given the reality & truth of Islam - a pathetic corrupted made up heresy of greed, corruption, self interest, murder and blatant lies.
Have some backbone man, admit it's all fake,
step into the light.
Even the Hindu beliefs or Buddhism have a better message & more authentic basis than
Islam.
Allah which way

Australia

#41475 Jul 29, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
I am very curious how Islam could have overlords like the Turks or the Mongols and how their seat of spiritual power could be moved elsewhere ?
Islam originally had it's centre of worship and prostration to jerusalem. Because it was a virulent virus created by the jews when they tolerated if not cultivated the ishmaelite fantasy (probably the jews seeking survival on the red sea coast after the 70ad dispora had no much choice..)
When the T'ubah kingdom became the Himyarite (mad Arabs infected with quasi jew beliefs slaughtering christians, Yusuf 520ad) YHWH was not Allah. Allah was prayed to via Hubal and was a pagan god manufactured around 180ad.
YHWH worshippers & quareeshi Allah worshippers were at war.
Abu Bakr (the voice of Gabriel) then corrupted the naive ishmaelite missionary/spy muhummad
sent to Mecca. Islam was designed as a rebirth of the Himyarite fanaticism, using the Jewish book of T'ubah/ishmaelite baseline but with Allah superimposed. Quran says this (Jews have lied about god, is really (Abu Bakr's) Allah god and objects in mecca with Sabean Haj rituals etc.
Jerusalem was still the heavenly earth portal,..
Then the portal to the heavens 'moved to mecca'. Muskims prostrates to objects in Mecca.
Muhummad objected to this,(recorded) but was fearful of Abu Bakr & Aisha. It then got worse, and they killed him, Uthman, Ali as outlined previously. When the qarmations in 920 ad destroyed the black stone & much of Mecca, it was a very confused time & many Muslims prayed to their local mosque. Then with the conquest of jerusalem, there was an attempt to recentre it there. Same with the collapse of byzantium (from the franks not of Islam) and recentre it there (Hagia sophia). Mecca always had a sharif or sherrif that assured it was a holy city in imitation of the Vatican state. In 1922 the british cultivated the wahhabi sect of ibn Saudi via a secret agent (jack phibly) and created the Wahhabi state of Saudi so 'it would split Islam'.
The sharif of Mecca & lineage was bought off to then be western dictators of other parts of the ME - Egypt & Jordan. This was to break up and create relgious tension between the persians, Assyrians, Turks & Arabs. To block a unified Islam or caliphate ever again and to break up the old caliphate into various colonies of the west.
Like how they broke up old india & surrounded it with enemies after ww2.
So Islam has had many different 'centers'- be it jerusalem, constanipole, cairo, sryia and other places.
But the device Abu Bakr used in consolidating the haj to Mecca & the (now fake) black stone was a very powerful one, it's more than just some made up relics - but also the underlying fertility rite, moon god & paganism that has the pull factor the rule that every heretic idol worshipper 'has to go there' has kept Mecca in
play and consolidated the pagan centre to there.
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Wasnt always like that tho. A muslim in say
jordan would pray and worship Allah in the west & but walk to the south east for the Haj sex
ritual.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#41476 Jul 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you are moving in a circle, like a dog chasing its tail, get over it.
Ask pertinent questions.... not just for the sake of asking.
I am on a mission MUQ .

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#41477 Jul 29, 2013
Allah which way wrote:
<quoted text>
Islam originally had it's centre of worship and prostration to jerusalem. Because it was a virulent virus created by the jews when they tolerated if not cultivated the ishmaelite fantasy (probably the jews seeking survival on the red sea coast after the 70ad dispora had no much choice..)
When the T'ubah kingdom became the Himyarite (mad Arabs infected with quasi jew beliefs slaughtering christians, Yusuf 520ad) YHWH was not Allah. Allah was prayed to via Hubal and was a pagan god manufactured around 180ad.
YHWH worshippers & quareeshi Allah worshippers were at war.
Abu Bakr (the voice of Gabriel) then corrupted the naive ishmaelite missionary/spy muhummad
sent to Mecca. Islam was designed as a rebirth of the Himyarite fanaticism, using the Jewish book of T'ubah/ishmaelite baseline but with Allah superimposed. Quran says this (Jews have lied about god, is really (Abu Bakr's) Allah god and objects in mecca with Sabean Haj rituals etc.
Jerusalem was still the heavenly earth portal,..
Then the portal to the heavens 'moved to mecca'. Muskims prostrates to objects in Mecca.
Muhummad objected to this,(recorded) but was fearful of Abu Bakr & Aisha. It then got worse, and they killed him, Uthman, Ali as outlined previously. When the qarmations in 920 ad destroyed the black stone & much of Mecca, it was a very confused time & many Muslims prayed to their local mosque. Then with the conquest of jerusalem, there was an attempt to recentre it there. Same with the collapse of byzantium (from the franks not of Islam) and recentre it there (Hagia sophia). Mecca always had a sharif or sherrif that assured it was a holy city in imitation of the Vatican state. In 1922 the british cultivated the wahhabi sect of ibn Saudi via a secret agent (jack phibly) and created the Wahhabi state of Saudi so 'it would split Islam'.
The sharif of Mecca & lineage was bought off to then be western dictators of other parts of the ME - Egypt & Jordan. This was to break up and create relgious tension between the persians, Assyrians, Turks & Arabs. To block a unified Islam or caliphate ever again and to break up the old caliphate into various colonies of the west.
Like how they broke up old india & surrounded it with enemies after ww2.
So Islam has had many different 'centers'- be it jerusalem, constanipole, cairo, sryia and other places.
But the device Abu Bakr used in consolidating the haj to Mecca & the (now fake) black stone was a very powerful one, it's more than just some made up relics - but also the underlying fertility rite, moon god & paganism that has the pull factor the rule that every heretic idol worshipper 'has to go there' has kept Mecca in
play and consolidated the pagan centre to there.
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Wasnt always like that tho. A muslim in say
jordan would pray and worship Allah in the west & but walk to the south east for the Haj sex
ritual.
WHY would the Jews invent Islam ?

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#41478 Jul 29, 2013
Allah which way wrote:
<quoted text>
Islam originally had it's centre of worship and prostration to jerusalem. Because it was a virulent virus created by the jews when they tolerated if not cultivated the ishmaelite fantasy (probably the jews seeking survival on the red sea coast after the 70ad dispora had no much choice..)
When the T'ubah kingdom became the Himyarite (mad Arabs infected with quasi jew beliefs slaughtering christians, Yusuf 520ad) YHWH was not Allah. Allah was prayed to via Hubal and was a pagan god manufactured around 180ad.
YHWH worshippers & quareeshi Allah worshippers were at war.
Abu Bakr (the voice of Gabriel) then corrupted the naive ishmaelite missionary/spy muhummad
sent to Mecca. Islam was designed as a rebirth of the Himyarite fanaticism, using the Jewish book of T'ubah/ishmaelite baseline but with Allah superimposed. Quran says this (Jews have lied about god, is really (Abu Bakr's) Allah god and objects in mecca with Sabean Haj rituals etc.
Jerusalem was still the heavenly earth portal,..
Then the portal to the heavens 'moved to mecca'. Muskims prostrates to objects in Mecca.
Muhummad objected to this,(recorded) but was fearful of Abu Bakr & Aisha. It then got worse, and they killed him, Uthman, Ali as outlined previously. When the qarmations in 920 ad destroyed the black stone & much of Mecca, it was a very confused time & many Muslims prayed to their local mosque. Then with the conquest of jerusalem, there was an attempt to recentre it there. Same with the collapse of byzantium (from the franks not of Islam) and recentre it there (Hagia sophia). Mecca always had a sharif or sherrif that assured it was a holy city in imitation of the Vatican state. In 1922 the british cultivated the wahhabi sect of ibn Saudi via a secret agent (jack phibly) and created the Wahhabi state of Saudi so 'it would split Islam'.
The sharif of Mecca & lineage was bought off to then be western dictators of other parts of the ME - Egypt & Jordan. This was to break up and create relgious tension between the persians, Assyrians, Turks & Arabs. To block a unified Islam or caliphate ever again and to break up the old caliphate into various colonies of the west.
Like how they broke up old india & surrounded it with enemies after ww2.
So Islam has had many different 'centers'- be it jerusalem, constanipole, cairo, sryia and other places.
But the device Abu Bakr used in consolidating the haj to Mecca & the (now fake) black stone was a very powerful one, it's more than just some made up relics - but also the underlying fertility rite, moon god & paganism that has the pull factor the rule that every heretic idol worshipper 'has to go there' has kept Mecca in
play and consolidated the pagan centre to there.
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Wasnt always like that tho. A muslim in say
jordan would pray and worship Allah in the west & but walk to the south east for the Haj sex
ritual.
Do you know why Abu Bakr wanted Islam ?
Peter Hall

Kirribilli, Australia

#41479 Jul 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Is there ANY system in the world where EVERYONE is Master and there is no one under any one?
It is me who is dishonest, or you are trying to hide some thing?
Women are not "bondage" to men, but Men are "protectors of women", because they have "more strength" than women and because "They Spend" their monies on them.
Go and look thru out the world, how many women support their husbands and how many husbands support their wives?
Slaves are those who are captured during the battlefield, it was an economic solution to the problem of the time.
And you people give false impression that it was Islam "which invented slavery".... while there is no "civlized nation" in the world that did not had slaves.
It is only very recently that slavery has been abolished , because now machines do most of jobs which needed human power.
Islam does not say that "it is must" you should have slaves. Talk by seeing both pros and cons of Islamic teachings.
Well, slavery was never legal in my country, EVER.

Saudi Arabia only made it illegal in 1963, after it was shamed and forced to change the immoral sharia law.

Civilized society strive for equality, not master servant, that is so 7th century. Get with the times MUQ.

I know some women who would probably be able to tear you in half.

You said that Mohammed said that no Muslim has authority of another, I gave you 2 examples that clearly refute your claim.

So either, 1) you lied or 2) Mohammed lied, now which is it?

This is not a case of interpretation, you made a statement this is incorrect, so were you lying or Mohammed?

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#41480 Jul 29, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
<quoted text>
OH REALLY????????? Then why does that not apply to the women in Islam who are treated no better than chattel!!!!!!!!!!
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Is equality the reason the women get stoned to death buried to their waste and the men only to get buried to their knees?
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Is equality that when a woman is raped she is whipped and or killed, and the man receives a medal?
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Is equality that a man can have 4 partners and a woman only 1 partner.
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Is equality when the woman's parents die she receives less than her brothers?
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Is Equality when the Husband leaves his partner (wife) he gets to keep the children.
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Is Equality when a husband can beat the crap out of his wife And she can not do anything about it.
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Is Equality when the daughter is found talking to a girl he is not married to, the girl is rewarded with a Honour killing from her father and the boy receives a gold medal from his father.
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Here is where Equality counts.
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In the Palestinian territories, there has been an increase in honor killings. Last month a
40-page report was compiled by Ohaila Shomar of women's rights group SAWA. Until
2004, there were 10 to 12 murders of women each year in Palestinian territories. Over the
past three years, there have been 48 murders of females aged from 12 to 85 years old. Of
these cases, 32 have been honor killings. The Times states that last year, 17 Palestinian
women were honor victims. 12 were killed in the Gaza Strip and 5 were killed in the
West Bank.
The reasoning behind honor killings is alien to
the Western mind. Though not recent, the case of
Amira Abu Hanhan Qaoud, a mother of nine who
killed her teenaged daughter Rofayda on January
27, 2002 shows a callousness that shocks.
Rofayda had been raped by her two elder brothers
in their shared bedroom in their Ramallah home.
She became pregnant. On December 23, 2002,
Rofayda gave birth to a baby boy at a women's
shelter in Bethlehem. She returned to the family's
three bedroom home in the suburb of Abu Qash. The family and village heads signed a
promise that they would not harm the teenager. The two brothers were jailed.
Amira Qaoud did not keep her promise. She bought razor blades, and ordered her
daughter to slash her own wrists. When Rofayda refused, her mother smothered her with
a plastic bag, slashed the girl's wrists and hit her with a wooden stick. The killing took
twenty minutes. Amira Qaoud said: "She killed me before I killed her. I had to protect my
children. This is the only way I could protect my family's honor." Her nine year old
daughter Fatima echoed her sentiments, saying: "My mother did this because she does
not want us to be punished by people. I love my mother much more now than before."
In Palestinian territories, a murder is regarded as less serious if it is an honor killing, and
thus honor killers receive from six to twelve months' jail. This stems from Jordanian
legislation from 1960. Article 340 of the Jordanian Penal Code affirms that "he who
discovers his wife or one of his female relatives committing adultery with another, and he
kills, wounds or injures one or both of them, is exempt from any penalty... he who
discovers his wife, or one of his female ascendants or descendants or sisters with another
in an unlawful bed and he kills, wounds or injures one or both of them, benefits from a
reduction of penalty." In addition to this, Article 98 of the Penal Code allows a reduced
observation

Laurinburg, NC

#41481 Jul 29, 2013
STEVE wrote:
Have you gone mad you islam symps.
muslims arent nothing. all they do is plant bombs on public transportation. americans on the other hand....anyone crazy enough to drop nuclear weapons on civilians is a threat to all life. and your twisted moral compass just makes things worse.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#41482 Jul 29, 2013
Peter Hall wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, slavery was never legal in my country, EVER.
Saudi Arabia only made it illegal in 1963, after it was shamed and forced to change the immoral sharia law.
Civilized society strive for equality, not master servant, that is so 7th century. Get with the times MUQ.
I know some women who would probably be able to tear you in half.
You said that Mohammed said that no Muslim has authority of another, I gave you 2 examples that clearly refute your claim.
So either, 1) you lied or 2) Mohammed lied, now which is it?
This is not a case of interpretation, you made a statement this is incorrect, so were you lying or Mohammed?
What is your country mate?

You are not even qualified to call your country even a "child"!!

Your country came into being AFTER the machines were invented.

In USA it was legal till about?

Talk about Principles and not side issues.

Which is the religion that gave slaves Rights?

Which is the religion, in which freeing slaves is an act of charity and it fixed freeing of slaves as expiation for some wrong acts.

When you speak about any religion take all the factors into consideration, nor just firing your salvos in thin air
Peter Hall

Kirribilli, Australia

#41483 Jul 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
What is your country mate?
You are not even qualified to call your country even a "child"!!
Your country came into being AFTER the machines were invented.
In USA it was legal till about?
Talk about Principles and not side issues.
Which is the religion that gave slaves Rights?
Which is the religion, in which freeing slaves is an act of charity and it fixed freeing of slaves as expiation for some wrong acts.
When you speak about any religion take all the factors into consideration, nor just firing your salvos in thin air
My Country is Australia.

The USA abolished slavery 100 years before Saudi Arabia!

What religion abolished the right ot own other Human Beings - Not Islam

Which religion held only slavery longer than any other - Islam

Which religion murdered more slaves than any other - Islam

Which is the only religion that still endorsed slavery - Islam

Which religion specifically endorses sexual slavery - Islam

Of any remaining countries that still have slaves, what is the majority religion - Islam, with the except of India which is Hindu with a big Muslim population.

Sorry little man, you lost that one again.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#41485 Jul 30, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

How US Drones Forge as Many Foes as They Kill

World View: The enhanced use of unmanned attack planes is at the heart of American foreign policy

By Patrick Cockburn

October 29, 2012 "The Independent" -- Drones or their equivalent have long attracted political and military leaders dreaming of the surgical removal of their enemies. In 1812, the governor of Moscow, Count Rostopchin, devised a plan to get a hot-air balloon to hover over the French lines at Borodino and drop an explosive device on Napoleon. The source for this is the memoirs of the French writer, traveller and politician Chateaubriand and I have not read it anywhere else, but the story illustrates how, from the first moment man took to the air, he has seen it as a means of assassination.

President Barack Obama thinks much the same way as Rostopchin did 200 years ago. The enhanced and secret use of unmanned drones is one of the most striking features of his foreign policy. During his presidency they have been used against Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Afghanistan, Libya and Iraq. In Pakistan alone some 337 CIA strikes have killed 1,908 to 3,225 people since 2004, according to the Washington-based New America Foundation. Of these, between 1,618 and 2,769 are said to have been militants.

The precision of the numbers, combined with the great disparity between the highest and lowest figures, will send a chill through anybody who has examined US air attacks in Iraq and Afghanistan. Official mendacity about civilians killed has been a feature of every air war. Within days of the fall of the Taliban in 2001, the US military was trying to explain away why it had blown up Afghan wedding parties that it claimed were convoys of "terrorists".

What makes Obama's drone wars so important is that they are right at the centre of foreign policy in South Asia, the Middle East and North Africa. Drones were used by George W Bush between 2004 and 2008 on a smaller scale, but their mass use since is not just the fruit of technical developments or tactical convenience.

One of the most important changes in world politics over the past decade is that the US has failed to win two wars, one in Iraq, the other in Afghanistan, despite deploying large and vastly expensive land armies. Equally telling, these failures were against relatively puny forces of guerrillas. For American hardliners and neo-liberals these wars were designed to lay the ghosts of Vietnam and Somalia, enabling the open use of US military might, but they turned out to be Vietnam and Somalia revisited. American popular and establishment support for military intervention abroad using ground troops is at a low ebb.

The use of unmanned drones seems to avoid these problems. First of all there are no direct and immediate American casualties. The attacks also sound as if they are carrying the fight to the enemy in the shape of al-Qa'ida, with its top 20 operatives in north-west Pakistan being regularly eliminated only to be mysteriously replaced by another top 20 operatives. Drone strikes have been difficult for the Republicans to criticise during the presidential campaign without opening themselves up to charges that they are soft on terrorism. In one of the few sensible remarks on foreign policy in the presidential debates, Mitt Romney said "we can't kill our way out of this", but later added that this did not mean he was anti-drone.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#41486 Jul 30, 2013
Peter Hall wrote:
<quoted text>
My Country is Australia.
The USA abolished slavery 100 years before Saudi Arabia!
What religion abolished the right ot own other Human Beings - Not Islam
Which religion held only slavery longer than any other - Islam
Which religion murdered more slaves than any other - Islam
Which is the only religion that still endorsed slavery - Islam
Which religion specifically endorses sexual slavery - Islam
Of any remaining countries that still have slaves, what is the majority religion - Islam, with the except of India which is Hindu with a big Muslim population.
Sorry little man, you lost that one again.
Show me Jewish and Christian and Hindu and any other religion's scriptures abolishing slavery?

What type of accusation is this?

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#41487 Jul 30, 2013
Baron44 wrote:
<quoted text>
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Is equality the reason the women get stoned to death buried to their waste and the men only to get buried to their knees?
-
Is equality that when a woman is raped she is whipped and or killed, and the man receives a medal?
-
Is equality that a man can have 4 partners and a woman only 1 partner.
-
Is equality when the woman's parents die she receives less than her brothers?
-
Is Equality when the Husband leaves his partner (wife) he gets to keep the children.
-
Is Equality when a husband can beat the crap out of his wife And she can not do anything about it.
-
Is Equality when the daughter is found talking to a girl he is not married to, the girl is rewarded with a Honour killing from her father and the boy receives a gold medal from his father.
-
Here is where Equality counts.
-
In the Palestinian territories, there has been an increase in honor killings. Last month a
40-page report was compiled by Ohaila Shomar of women's rights group SAWA. Until
2004, there were 10 to 12 murders of women each year in Palestinian territories. Over the
past three years, there have been 48 murders of females aged from 12 to 85 years old. Of
these cases, 32 have been honor killings. The Times states that last year, 17 Palestinian
women were honor victims. 12 were killed in the Gaza Strip and 5 were killed in the
West Bank.
The reasoning behind honor killings is alien to
the Western mind. Though not recent, the case of
Amira Abu Hanhan Qaoud, a mother of nine who
killed her teenaged daughter Rofayda on January
27, 2002 shows a callousness that shocks.
Rofayda had been raped by her two elder brothers
in their shared bedroom in their Ramallah home.
She became pregnant. On December 23, 2002,
Rofayda gave birth to a baby boy at a women's
shelter in Bethlehem. She returned to the family's
three bedroom home in the suburb of Abu Qash. The family and village heads signed a
promise that they would not harm the teenager. The two brothers were jailed.
Amira Qaoud did not keep her promise. She bought razor blades, and ordered her
daughter to slash her own wrists. When Rofayda refused, her mother smothered her with
a plastic bag, slashed the girl's wrists and hit her with a wooden stick. The killing took
twenty minutes. Amira Qaoud said: "She killed me before I killed her. I had to protect my
children. This is the only way I could protect my family's honor." Her nine year old
daughter Fatima echoed her sentiments, saying: "My mother did this because she does
not want us to be punished by people. I love my mother much more now than before."
In Palestinian territories, a murder is regarded as less serious if it is an honor killing, and
thus honor killers receive from six to twelve months' jail. This stems from Jordanian
legislation from 1960. Article 340 of the Jordanian Penal Code affirms that "he who
discovers his wife or one of his female relatives committing adultery with another, and he
kills, wounds or injures one or both of them, is exempt from any penalty... he who
discovers his wife, or one of his female ascendants or descendants or sisters with another
in an unlawful bed and he kills, wounds or injures one or both of them, benefits from a
reduction of penalty." In addition to this, Article 98 of the Penal Code allows a reduced
Excellent post Baron!!!!!!!!!!

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#41488 Jul 30, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Show me Jewish and Christian and Hindu and any other religion's scriptures abolishing slavery?
What type of accusation is this?
You are so ignorant!!! Have you never heard of William Wiberforce? LOL

William Wilberforce (1759-1833) campaigned for the abolition of the British slave trade. He was an MP, a Christian writer and a social reformer.

In 1789, following his conversion to Christianity, Wilberforce became the voice in Parliament of the Abolition Movement; joining campaigners such as the Quakers, Thomas Clarkson and the former enslaved African Olaudah Equiano. For Wilberforce the slave trade was a sin for which Britain had to repent or be damned.

It took twenty years to end the British trade in enslaved people and almost thirty more before slavery itself became illegal.

Hey Mug show us what Islam has done to try and do the same thing???? Oh hang on the false prophet approves of it so it is still current
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#41489 Jul 30, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
<quoted text>
Excellent post Baron!!!!!!!!!!
You READ his posts? Vow, Vow (You must have lots and lots of spare times!!) Vow, Simply Vow!!
Marcus

Sydney, Australia

#41490 Jul 30, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
When you become Muslim, you get the same right as any one else in Islam.
Our prophet said "There is no superiority of an Arab over a Non Arab, or a Non Arab over an Arab....there is no Superiority of a white person over a black person, nor a brown person over white person....you all are children of Adam and Adam was made from dust"!!(AU KAMA QAAL.
Islam came to destroy these linguistic and ethnic and geographical barriers that separate children of Adam from one and other.
It is a Universal brother hood, the caliphate changed hands from nation to nation. It was first in Madina, then moved to Damascus, then to Baghdad, Cairo...... Istanbul etc.
Yes if you are a titled Muslim either from social coercion, fearful of life etc... you are treated better than the other dirty second class kaffirs. What kind of flawed thinking you utilise to pretty up your religion.

I could say the same about Western societal tolerance, but of course you would conveniently ignore such alarming truths to purport your lies.
Peter Hall

Kirribilli, Australia

#41491 Jul 30, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Show me Jewish and Christian and Hindu and any other religion's scriptures abolishing slavery?
What type of accusation is this?
Easy, "love they neighbour as thy self, for the love of thee."

No God would endorse one human owning another.

No God would tell it is only for one Human to own another human as a sex slave.

That is Why Allah, your moon God, is a pagan myth, and Mohammed was not a Prophet but a murdering, raping stealing slave owning pedophile, who no man with any moral compass could consider to be anything other than a psychopath.

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#41492 Jul 30, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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You READ his posts? Vow, Vow (You must have lots and lots of spare times!!) Vow, Simply Vow!!
You seem to have lot's of time that you make yourself available to our inquisitive minds that we ask of you to understand yourself the way we see you.

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#41494 Jul 30, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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You READ his posts? Vow, Vow (You must have lots and lots of spare times!!) Vow, Simply Vow!!
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MUQ: I know that you do read all my post, it is that you are scared of me for you are aware I know more about Islam and Saudi than you do.
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I know how you are hurting on the inside but not dare open your mouth, just in case your Saudi masters take offence and send you back to India.
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At least here in this thread we let you have your own opinion and you know we will never have you whipped.

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