Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46750 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Scoop.

Sheilaa

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#41417 Jul 26, 2013
Kabeer Ali wrote:
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You all guys are nuts really
tell me what is Jesus real NAME ?? any one
Ask any muslim what is his real name he ll tell you
and i got a news for you for the people who are really scared of islam by watching all lies over the tv controlled by free masons
Jesus ibrahim moses all the prophets you know they were muslim and they work hard to convert every one to be a muslim
if you non muslim can exists for that long you ll carry on till the day of judgement come
so you dont have to worried about islam matter of fact you should worry about about christinity cause its falling down cause you do not worship God
you worship some one called Jeses and John
wake up and read dont watch tele too much read books read your own bible
What a load of crock. Jesus was a Jew not a Muslim and he lived before Islam had even been invented. Allah is a false god and was one of many gods that Arabs at that time worshiped. Mohammad was a con man who exploited religion for his own supremist ideology. He promoted rape, murder, stonings, robbery, pedophilia among many other filthy behaviours

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

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#41418 Jul 26, 2013


Question: "Are there errors in the Qur'an (Koran)?"

Answer: Though Muslims often argue for the divine origin of the Qur’an on grounds that “no error, alteration, or variation” has touched its copies since its inception, such a view does not accurately represent the facts. While it is indeed correct to say that the Qur’an of today is a nearly perfect copy of its seventh-century counterpart, the notion that these copies reflect the exact words as handed down by Muhammad is becoming increasingly problematic.

Historical sources prove that there were several different texts circulating in Syria, Iraq and Armenia prior to the final revision produced by Uthman. Zaid, Muhammad’s long-time secretary, was called in by Uthman to oversee the final and definitive authorized version of the Qur’an. All other copies of the Qur’an were then burned so that there could be no challenge to the authorized text. It remains to be answered why Uthman would have had to produce an authorized version of the Qur’an, if indeed the Qur’an had been perfectly preserved from the beginning!

To quote Alfred Guillaume, one of the best-known non-Muslim scholars on Islam:

“Only the men of Kufa refused the new edition, and their version was certainly extant as late as A.D. 1000. Uthman’s edition to this day remains the authoritative word of God to Muslims. Nevertheless, even now variant readings, involving not only different readings of the vowels but also occasionally a different consonantal text, are recognized as of equal authority one with another!”

When one compares the different transmitted versions of the Qur’an, it becomes evident that there are, in fact, variants among them. While these variants USUALLY involve differences in individual letters, vowels or diacritical marks, the Muslim claim of perfect unity in the copies of the Qur’an is incorrect.

Moreover, since part of the Islamic claim is that God has been giving revelations to mankind throughout history, including the Psalms of David and the four Gospels, one wonders why it is claimed that Allah miraculously preserved the Qur’an in infallible copies, whereas Allah was apparently singularly incapable of accomplishing the same feat with the previous revelations.

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/errors-Quran.html...

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#41419 Jul 26, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
Question: "Are there errors in the Qur'an (Koran)?"
Answer: Though Muslims often argue for the divine origin of the Qur’an on grounds that “no error, alteration, or variation” has touched its copies since its inception, such a view does not accurately represent the facts. While it is indeed correct to say that the Qur’an of today is a nearly perfect copy of its seventh-century counterpart, the notion that these copies reflect the exact words as handed down by Muhammad is becoming increasingly problematic.
Historical sources prove that there were several different texts circulating in Syria, Iraq and Armenia prior to the final revision produced by Uthman. Zaid, Muhammad’s long-time secretary, was called in by Uthman to oversee the final and definitive authorized version of the Qur’an. All other copies of the Qur’an were then burned so that there could be no challenge to the authorized text. It remains to be answered why Uthman would have had to produce an authorized version of the Qur’an, if indeed the Qur’an had been perfectly preserved from the beginning!
To quote Alfred Guillaume, one of the best-known non-Muslim scholars on Islam:
“Only the men of Kufa refused the new edition, and their version was certainly extant as late as A.D. 1000. Uthman’s edition to this day remains the authoritative word of God to Muslims. Nevertheless, even now variant readings, involving not only different readings of the vowels but also occasionally a different consonantal text, are recognized as of equal authority one with another!”
When one compares the different transmitted versions of the Qur’an, it becomes evident that there are, in fact, variants among them. While these variants USUALLY involve differences in individual letters, vowels or diacritical marks, the Muslim claim of perfect unity in the copies of the Qur’an is incorrect.
Moreover, since part of the Islamic claim is that God has been giving revelations to mankind throughout history, including the Psalms of David and the four Gospels, one wonders why it is claimed that Allah miraculously preserved the Qur’an in infallible copies, whereas Allah was apparently singularly incapable of accomplishing the same feat with the previous revelations.
Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/errors-Quran.html...
Is this what caused the Muslims dividing into sects ?

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

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#41420 Jul 26, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Is this what caused the Muslims dividing into sects ?
After Mohammed’s death in 632, leadership of the Islamic community passed to Abu Bakr as-Siddiq, one of Mohammed’s closest companions. Some in the community felt that this succession was not legitimate, and that the title of caliph really belonged to Ali ibn Abi Talib. Ali’s claim was supported by the fact that he was Mohammed’s cousin, his adopted son, his first convert (at the age of nine), and husband of his daughter Fatima. Both sides believe that Mohammed specifically designated their man: Supporters of Abu became the Sunnis, those of ibn Ali the Shiites.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#41421 Jul 26, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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Like I said if they were all the same why was it necessary to burn them?
Wouldn't the Immams of those provinces get a bit cranky if the story got changed away from their traditional version ?

Since: Nov 08

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#41422 Jul 26, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Why should it be in Makkah? The revelation started at Makkah but it was completed at Madina.
That was the seat of Government during time of Prophet and his successors.
It was in Madina that Quran was committed to writing and it was from Madina where Caliph Othman made six copies of Quran and distributed one copy to each major province.
One copy from that Quran still survives and is kept in Topkopy Museum Turkey.
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Turkey???? The only country that is not real Islam, where they drink alcohol, eat pork, their daughters have sex before marriage and no one in turkey seems to cover their faces or heads?
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Whores can be found all over Turkey, the women wear Western clothes, you have discos and nude dancing parties.
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And they choose Turkey for the save keeping of the original Qur'an
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MUQ by the way there is also one kept in London.
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There is also a copy of the so called original Qur'an kept in Russia.
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MUQ the joke is that none of the 3 so called original Qur'an are identical.
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All 3 differ and have different errors.
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According to rumors, and these rumors are not verified, for Muslim often fabricate stories and make believe to it's followers it is true.
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Like Neil Armstrong converted to Islam, or when Neil Armstrong landed on the moon, he heard Allah talking to him saying the Azaan.

According to Muslims: >>>>> Neil Armstrong heard Azaan on moon
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An other copy was found recently in Tashkent, Uzbekistan.
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Right now there are more than 9 version of the Qur'an spread right across the globe, each with his own errors and lies.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#41423 Jul 26, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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After Mohammed’s death in 632, leadership of the Islamic community passed to Abu Bakr as-Siddiq, one of Mohammed’s closest companions. Some in the community felt that this succession was not legitimate, and that the title of caliph really belonged to Ali ibn Abi Talib. Ali’s claim was supported by the fact that he was Mohammed’s cousin, his adopted son, his first convert (at the age of nine), and husband of his daughter Fatima. Both sides believe that Mohammed specifically designated their man: Supporters of Abu became the Sunnis, those of ibn Ali the Shiites.
It was one of Abu Bakr men who nominated Abu Bakr as the leader of Islam when the companions met to discuss their future .
Not being a companion why would he be allowed to be amoungst them when they are meeting ?
If the nomination had not have been made history would be so different.
Abu Bakr won

East Maitland, Australia

#41424 Jul 26, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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It was one of Abu Bakr men who nominated Abu Bakr as the leader of Islam when the companions met to discuss their future .
Not being a companion why would he be allowed to be amoungst them when they are meeting ?
If the nomination had not have been made history would be so different.
Couple of big issues in all that, esp fot Abu Bakr.
Fatimah was not of Muhammad. Ali had no claim.
In 624 AD Muhammad was outcast by the jews. Muhammad had failed in his mission as a spy and missionary for the Jews at Mecca.
Facing ruin (muhammad was a camel herder & owner of camels inherited via Khadijah who had died)/ Muhammad fell under the spell of Abu Bakr who ran the Allah / Hubal franchise at
Mecca.
Muhammad & Abu Bakr then concocted the apostasy of islam - replacing sabean (haj) and allah cult gods, objects & rituals over the jewish ishmaelite faith. Abu Bakr & Muhammad entered into a secret pact with the medina Arab pagan tribes at war with the ishmaelite Jews & attacked & slaughtered them.
All about camels and opportunism.
Abu Bakr & muhammad entered into a pact that Aisha (6 years) would be sold to Muhammad and the offspring would inherit islam. Aisha had no surviving offspring and was caught having sex with saywan.. Aisha was outcast, muhammad then tried to purchase a slave son, and then when that was blocked by Abu Bakr, he then tried to develop Ali (of Khadijah & Fatimah but NOT of Muhammad according to the Meccan Bakri). Abu Bakr & Aisha then murdered muhammad on the FOURTH assassination attempt.
Uthman as previously outlined wrote a scrambled mess of a Quran and burnt 18 other versions.
Aisha, Abu Bakr and others had different versions. At least 24 different versions...
Abu Bakr and Aisha then murdered Uthman & Ali and Abu Bakr became cakiphate.
Muhammads recession - dictated to Ali was lost, stolen by Aisha who boasted of that.
Muhammads recession warned that the Bakri were of the devil, he had sold his soul to the devil, Gabriel (in the Quran) was a metaphor for Abu Bakr as the devil & that the Bakri would corrupt and further pervert islam / it was not of a god but of places and objects and rituals - all owned by Abu Bakr.
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Today 1.5 billion Muslims prostrate like frogs to worship Abu Bakri's false Allah god, his place & his rituals.
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Muhammad was written out of the Quran (read it - he has nothing to say except in a tiny sura at the back) and the very fear Muhammad had, that the Bakri would kill him & corrupt islam into pagan idol worship came true.
Quran poor effort

East Maitland, Australia

#41425 Jul 26, 2013
Of course we could also raise the topic of the satanic verses : these were additional idols and gods Muhammad wanted included in his concoction with Abu Bakr of 'Islam': the fake synthesis of Jewish script, false tales of Mecca, Allah the moon god, muhammad as the new hubal messenger and pagan rituals including the Sabean Haj and much other apostasy.
But Abu Bakr did not like these other gods & idols because his tribe did not own that franchise. So he made muhammad change his script so the verses to these gods were removed.
Many such examples of the fluid, corrupt and complete apostasy and opportunism that formed the basis of Islam.
Why Muhammad reneged on the deal.
Why he tried to die as a Jew ' not a prophet or even a messenger but just a worshipper.
Why Aisha said that "Uthman like 'that other old Jew lover'(Muhammad who they had just murdered) must also die".
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Now we are getting to the heart of the issues, neurosis and anxiety of Islam.
Both the Shia (of Ali) and Sunni (of the Bakri) know what they worship is a fake corrupt apostasy.
It is their anxiety and neuroticism about the false basis of Islam that's fuels the indoctrination and aggression of Islam. It can't stand inspection or scrutinty. Anyone reading the Quran can tell immediately it's a cobbled together book of lies.
It's a pathetic, hopelessly inept set of Arab tales and disjointed selected 'accounts' that all contradict each other and the facts of history.
No Mecca before 150ad (records exist of it's first settlement) but somehow Abraham, Hagar & Ishmael went & lived there 2,600 years before..
No kaaba building until 360 ad, but the Kaaba is eternal. No Allah until 180 ad but somehow Allah was enternal. No Jew or ishmaelite worshipped Allah (never) but somehow Allah is their YHWH too. Lord of the kaaba - purchased in 180ad with records of it as a 2nd hand idol then repurposed with the new Allah god created to make money - becomes an 'eternal spirit'.
The Haj - a Sabean fertility ritual, nothing to do with Allah & practiced in all areas .. becomes an islamic ritual only able to be done in an idol and place owned by Abu Bakr at Mecca.
All nonsense, complete babble.
The only thing Islam had going for it was the jizya or unbeliever tax. That's why the Mongols (khan II) adopted Islam (after a contest on exactly that) and spread it across their empire even tho they didn't believe it.
Today that's why so many people are still trapped in the beliefs. Islam was a taxation and tribute system for pre-medieval empires.
Islam has nothing to offer in a god or spirituality.
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Read the Quran & you will see what a patent nonsense the entire belief system is.
Otto

Brisbane, Australia

#41426 Jul 26, 2013
Why do you muslims say islam is the religion of peace ?

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/07/25/31553...

Where exactly is this peacefulness you talk of ? Excuse me for my ignorance, I just don't see it, all I see is failed states and lots of killing and misery.

Educate me.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#41427 Jul 26, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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When each country is armed with nukes ,wars will come to an end.
Then why whole world is against Iran nukes? They do not wars to end?
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#41428 Jul 26, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

U.S. Prosperity Slides in Index That Ranks Norway No. 1

By Simon Kennedy

October 30, 2012 "Bloomberg" -- The U.S. slid from the top ten most prosperous nations for the first time in a league table which ranked three Scandinavian nations the best for wealth and wellbeing.

The U.S. fell to 12th position from 10th in the Legatum Institute’s annual prosperity index amid increased doubts about the health of its economy and ability of politicians. Norway, Denmark and Sweden were declared the most prosperous in the index, published in London today.

With the presidential election just a week away, the research group said the standing of the U.S. economy has deteriorated to beneath that of 19 rivals. The report also showed that respect for the government has fallen, fewer Americans perceive working hard gets you ahead, while companies face higher startup costs and the export of high-technology products is dropping.

“As the U.S. struggles to reclaim the building blocks of the American Dream, now is a good time to consider who is best placed to lead the country back to prosperity and compete with the more agile countries,” Jeffrey Gedmin, the Legatum Institute’s president and chief executive officer, said in a statement.

The six-year-old Legatum Prosperity Index is a study of wealth and wellbeing in 142 countries, based on eight categories such as economic strength, education and governance. Covering 96 percent of the world’s population, it is an attempt to broaden measurement of a nation’s economic health beyond indicators such as gross domestic product.

The Legatum Institute is the public policy research arm of the Legatum Group, a Dubai-based private investment group founded in 2006 by New Zealand billionaire Christopher Chandler.

Global Prosperity

The report shows that even amid the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, global prosperity has increased across all regions in the past four years, although the sense of safety and security is decreasing amid tension in the Middle East and fear of crime in Latin America.

Norway and Denmark retained the pole positions they held last year in the overall prosperity measure, while Sweden leapfrogged Australia and New Zealand into third. Canada, Finland, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Ireland rounded out the top ten. The Central African Republic was ranked bottom.

In its sub-indexes, Legatum named Switzerland the strongest economy and home to the best system of governance. Denmark is the most entrepreneurial and New Zealand has the best education, while health is best in Luxembourg and Iceland is the safest. Canadians enjoy the most personal freedom and Norwegians have the greatest social capital

Contd.

“Turn left at pub Number 42”

Since: Dec 08

Homehill,QLD

#41429 Jul 26, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
<quoted text>
He's too embarrassed so I'll do it for him
33:50 O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee THY WIVES unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war, and the daughters of thine uncle on the father's side and the daughters of thine aunts on the father's side, and the daughters of thine uncle on the mother's side and the daughters of thine aunts on the mother's side who emigrated with thee, and a believing woman if she give herself unto the Prophet and the Prophet desire to ask her in marriage - a privilege for thee only, not for the (rest of) believers - We are Aware of that which We enjoined upon them concerning THEIR WIVES and those whom their right hands possess - that thou mayst be free from blame, for Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.
He's embarrassed because he was caught lying.Why they insist on doing this,I don't know

“Turn left at pub Number 42”

Since: Dec 08

Homehill,QLD

#41430 Jul 26, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Trying to trick simple Muslims? Just try it with Old Greek with Christians? How many will be able to read a single word?
Quran was not written in Kufic script, these "ornamental styles" came later, the original script called Othmanic script was is copied in all Quran which are read by common Muslims.
Want to punch holes in the best guarded book on the face of this earth.
Why not pick up memorizers from Arabia, Africa, Asia , America and Europe and ask them to recite whole Quran from memory. Do you find nay difference?
And this practice is right from 1400 years back!!
CAn you do it with ANY other book in the world?
trick simple Muslims with"can you read your own Quran"?

But if hasn't been altered,there should be no problem in reading it.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#41431 Jul 27, 2013
Abu Bakr won wrote:
<quoted text>
Couple of big issues in all that, esp fot Abu Bakr.
Fatimah was not of Muhammad. Ali had no claim.
In 624 AD Muhammad was outcast by the jews. Muhammad had failed in his mission as a spy and missionary for the Jews at Mecca.
Facing ruin (muhammad was a camel herder & owner of camels inherited via Khadijah who had died)/ Muhammad fell under the spell of Abu Bakr who ran the Allah / Hubal franchise at
Mecca.
Muhammad & Abu Bakr then concocted the apostasy of islam - replacing sabean (haj) and allah cult gods, objects & rituals over the jewish ishmaelite faith. Abu Bakr & Muhammad entered into a secret pact with the medina Arab pagan tribes at war with the ishmaelite Jews & attacked & slaughtered them.
All about camels and opportunism.
Abu Bakr & muhammad entered into a pact that Aisha (6 years) would be sold to Muhammad and the offspring would inherit islam. Aisha had no surviving offspring and was caught having sex with saywan.. Aisha was outcast, muhammad then tried to purchase a slave son, and then when that was blocked by Abu Bakr, he then tried to develop Ali (of Khadijah & Fatimah but NOT of Muhammad according to the Meccan Bakri). Abu Bakr & Aisha then murdered muhammad on the FOURTH assassination attempt.
Uthman as previously outlined wrote a scrambled mess of a Quran and burnt 18 other versions.
Aisha, Abu Bakr and others had different versions. At least 24 different versions...
Abu Bakr and Aisha then murdered Uthman & Ali and Abu Bakr became cakiphate.
Muhammads recession - dictated to Ali was lost, stolen by Aisha who boasted of that.
Muhammads recession warned that the Bakri were of the devil, he had sold his soul to the devil, Gabriel (in the Quran) was a metaphor for Abu Bakr as the devil & that the Bakri would corrupt and further pervert islam / it was not of a god but of places and objects and rituals - all owned by Abu Bakr.
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Today 1.5 billion Muslims prostrate like frogs to worship Abu Bakri's false Allah god, his place & his rituals.
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Muhammad was written out of the Quran (read it - he has nothing to say except in a tiny sura at the back) and the very fear Muhammad had, that the Bakri would kill him & corrupt islam into pagan idol worship came true.
Four assassination attempts by fellow Muslims who love their Muhammad ?

“Turn left at pub Number 42”

Since: Dec 08

Homehill,QLD

#41432 Jul 27, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Four assassination attempts by fellow Muslims who love their Muhammad ?
Not hard to believe.

Killing a 56yld man that molested your 9yld daughter.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#41433 Jul 27, 2013
AussieBobby wrote:
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Not hard to believe.
Killing a 56yld man that molested your 9yld daughter.
After the first attempt was he guarded and after the second the third what sort of security would have protected him and who would they have answered to ?

“Turn left at pub Number 42”

Since: Dec 08

Homehill,QLD

#41434 Jul 27, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
After the first attempt was he guarded and after the second the third what sort of security would have protected him and who would they have answered to ?
Why dont you come up with a sernrio of your own,unless you need me to hold your hand and come up with one for you.

This isnt a hard one
MUQ cant face today

Australia

#41435 Jul 27, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...
U.S. Prosperity Slides in Index
October 30, 2012 !!!! MUQ your such a dill.
With the USA presidential election just a week away,,,, blah blah old stale wrong info....
The Legatum Institute a Dubai front propaganda outfit... Blah blah
MUQ don't bother - this is cut & paste that's nearly one year out of date !!
The USA is on masive rebound - the usa now has more energy and gas resetves than saudi !! Some of the other countries higjlighted have gone backward, ESP the middle east.
You are very out of date and it's off topic.
Why do you waste people's time with such junk?
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How about some real news.
Cairo today - the egyptian people killed over 100 muslim brotherhood as they continue their purge against the virus of the Islamist fanatics.
Tunis today - thousands out on the street protesting against the Islamist regime who assasinated the opposition leader.
Libya today - crowds of libyans attack and hunt down the muslim brotherhood and hated Islamist's.
That's todays news : all of the middle east is in civil war - of Sunni versus Shia & the salafi recidivists losing control. The Bakri (Sunni ) battle versus the mohommadeans is a war that goes back to 632 ad - when Aisha & Abu Bakr
murdered Muhammad. Islam has been split since. Why don't you comment on this murder by the Bakri ?
Turkey, Iraq, Syria, Tunisa, Algeria, Mali, Morroco, Egypt - and Malaysia and Indonesia - everywhere Islam is in failure and chaos.
All because Muhammad was weak, and Abu Bakri was not, so killed him via Aisha, as well as Uthman & Ali. The battle for control of the pagan gods & idols of islam continues, as these two apostate virulent heresies wage war on each other.
MUQ muhammad murder

Australia

#41436 Jul 27, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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After the first attempt was he guarded and after the second the third what sort of security would have protected him and who would they have answered to ?
There were four attempts to kill muhammad, after he betrayed Abu Bakr and word got out on the recission he had dictated to Ali (see prior for the sequence of events)
The first three attempts were by the Bakri to intercept muhmadad in travels and murder him.
I can dig up all the references.
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Ali and the Medina tribal group provided protection to Muhammad, at this stage it was a full on war between the Meccan Bakri & medina moderates/remaining ishmaelites.
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Aisha as outlined had been sent away after being caught having sex with saywan , and Muhammad refused to have her in his house.
He waited over a month (that her period came) before he got 'Allah' to declare she was not really a slut, but by then the damage had been done.
The real issue was no heir, muhammad reverting Abu Bakr's Islam back to jewish ishmaelism and the attempted adoption of a slave son, then the coaching of Ali and Muhammad 'dictating new and treacherous scripts to Ali' that broke the original deal with Abu Bakr.
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On the last attempt - Ali was lured away on a pretext and Aisha offered thru another wife the promise of reconciliation. The poison was datura and purchased from the east (script and records exist). Muhmmad ate a prepared poisoned food item,(dates are recorded) and got violently sick
and then even more poison was administered as 'medicine'!! Very evil & vengeful these Bakri.
Lots of detail & eyewitness accounts. Muhammad was stricken, hallucinating, ranting, sweating, then relapsing with a 'dry white foam' emitted from his mouth.
Datura is an alkaloid that eventually causes cardiac arrest - Muhammad had always boasted that if he lied then Allah 'would strike him down with a split heart' and that's exactly how he died, of a burst heart - a series of strokes that enfeebled him then a massive stroke.
The Bakri prevented Ali and his tribe from coming near (with violence) and they ransacked and looted all of muhammads documents & scripts to find and conceal his recession to Ali.
After Muhammad died, panic set in as there were many versions of the Quran and already the north, medina and Mecca had separate versions. Uthman (medina)'volunteered' to compile one as each side raced to have their own version of events. Uthman burnt 18 other versions and wrote his own - but Aisha refused to hand over muhammads documents or the recession (as outlined in detail before).
Ali & Aisha had a camel fight. Ali won. Assassins were sent to kill Ali (poisoned sword & Uthman).
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Will dig up the references to the prior 3 assassination attempts.
This is the shame of islam. Why they are all so neurotic. Even Muhammad didn't believe in the nonsense he confected with Abu Bakr for his idol trade - and was about to deny him - so they
killed him. Fact. Fact on fact in fact.:)

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