Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46739 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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Boole

East Maitland, Australia

#41324 Jul 23, 2013
So the Muslims originally prayed to jerusalem ?
And the Haj wasn't an Islamic ritual, but a pagan fertility ritual done in every town at that time, and wasnt associated with Allah but was of Vedic and Sabean origin.
When did it change from Jerusalem to Mecca ?

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#41325 Jul 23, 2013
Boole wrote:
So the Muslims originally prayed to jerusalem ?
And the Haj wasn't an Islamic ritual, but a pagan fertility ritual done in every town at that time, and wasnt associated with Allah but was of Vedic and Sabean origin.
When did it change from Jerusalem to Mecca ?
This could explain the men's sexual lust syndrome and why the women have to hide inside burqa's

Muslims has been praying to the wrong deity instead they have been performing fertility rights .

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#41326 Jul 23, 2013
Muslims always rave on about "women's rights" under Islam so let's see what just a few of those rights include:

They have the right to inherit only half of what men inherit.

They have the right to their testimony being only worth half that of a man

They have the right to be beaten

They have the right to be submissive to men

Muslim men are able to have up to 4 wives but not Muslim women

Muslim men are able to marry non Muslim women but Muslim women can't

Haj revisited

East Maitland, Australia

#41327 Jul 23, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
You mention prostitutes so I am wondering why a Muslim would want one thinking more so that he would want boy children to continue his tradition.
The Haj is a celebration of estrus - female fertility. Like the goats as outlined, it's gathering and randomized sexual selection to deliberately randomize the genetic diversity of otherwise very inbred nomadic tribes in the 'ideal' period for
conception & later survival of the offspring.
The Kaaba black stone is mounted in a vulva as homage to the female fertility theme.
The moon (menstrual cycle)/ Venus (female star or planet) conjunction is also of the female alignment. The entire ritual was common from India to Arabia dating back thousands of years with Vedic (white shifts, 7 circles, outstretched hand gesticulating at the stone or object covered in the menses fluid of the female smeared on the object. The men finger, sniff and lick the rock to 'select' the female for breeding.
The tens of thousands of prostitutes at Mecca today bussed in for the Haj are just a symbolic relic of the original ritual. They are segregated into Arab or non Arab. The non Arabs have a choice of African or Bangladeshi servicing them.
There are many non muslim prostitutes also as the Meccan police chief was complaining about.
The Haj is mainly males & third world people.
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If you don't have sex on the Haj (with something, anything) the idolatry and ritual worshipping
Muslim fails the basic purpose in doing the trip...
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The Shia have to agree to a temporary marriage as per their rules when being serviced. The agent for the girl organizes that while they are in the queue. The Sunni state that the hori or
whore is a slave, therefore no need.
Many Arabs bring a non Arab female (typically a third world guestworker hired for this purpose) with them as a 'companion' if they don't want to line up, and make a few bucks by renting her
out to others. No one (well except some couples perhaps) is interested in the ' getting someone pregnant', like most of Islam they do not even know why they are there or the reason for the ritual anymore, Islam is now so corrupted.
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There is also alcohol, drugs and gambling on offer for the high rollers. YouTube video of what happens in Mecca shows the truth of all this.
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Even muhammad said this would happen,'that the Bakri would corrupt Islam, descend to object & ritual worship of which they dont even know why" and "true Muslims would turn on their heel and walk away".
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#41328 Jul 24, 2013
Serpent wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't you understand MUQ that nobody in the West likes you, your ideology or what you stand for.
So why don't you and your type just stay in your sh^tholes and don't bother us with your stupidity!!
And PS
Don't keep asking the West to keep helping you barbarians!!
So just because you do not like truth, we should stop telling you about it?

By using the same logic, if YOU do not like Water, we should close all taps?

And if you hate "normal marriages", and incline for Sodomy and Lesbian types of relation, we should ban the Normal marriages?

Grow up and try to learn to live with a pinch of salt every morning!!

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#41329 Jul 24, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
So just because you do not like truth, we should stop telling you about it?
By using the same logic, if YOU do not like Water, we should close all taps?
And if you hate "normal marriages", and incline for Sodomy and Lesbian types of relation, we should ban the Normal marriages?
Grow up and try to learn to live with a pinch of salt every morning!!
You just don't get it do you MUG? You don't have the truth so your point is moot.

You can rant and rave all you like but the fact is that Islam and democracy are like oil and water. We are the water and you are the oil. You may light some fires but you will never survive without water. LOL

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#41330 Jul 24, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
Muslims always rave on about "women's rights" under Islam so let's see what just a few of those rights include:
They have the right to inherit only half of what men inherit.
They have the right to their testimony being only worth half that of a man
They have the right to be beaten
They have the right to be submissive to men
Muslim men are able to have up to 4 wives but not Muslim women
Muslim men are able to marry non Muslim women but Muslim women can't
Allah put men and women on this Earth to be equal .
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#41331 Jul 24, 2013
NT wrote:
Why is there a HAJJ season ?

Doesn't Mecca mean anything to Muslims at any other time of the year ?
Ans.

A. Hajj And Muslim

Hajj is a specific ritual enjoined on Muslims who can afford to make a trip to Makkah.

It is performed on fixed dates,(08-13 of the Twelfth Month of Islamic Calendar, called DUL HIJJA). And there are fixed dates for specific rituals in other religions also, it is not a "strange thing" which was ordered to Muslims.

Muslims from all over the world , who can afford the costs and are able to bear the hardship, come to Makkah to take part in this Universal gathering, they perform rituals on specific dates and specific times, all these have strong links and remembrance of acts done by Prophet Abraham, who built the Kaaba and is Patriarch of all three major religions of world, Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

It is the biggest Universal gathering of muslims from every country and region.

But Kaaba is open round the clock for Muslims to pray and go round it and perform UMRAH, a minor pilgrimage at any time.

B. Makkah and Muslims, round the clock

Who says Makkah does not mean any thing to Muslims rest of year.

There is not a "Single moment" in entire 24 Hours period, when millions are not praying facing Kaaba!!

Without any doubt, it is the most celebrated and honored place in the entire world.

Other religious places only serve the need of local country, no one has this "Universal appeal" as Kaaba.

Only Allah would have visualized the Grand Honor for Kaaba, when He ordered His Messenger to change his direction from Jerusalem to Kaaba.

Oh , how much Jews lost at that moment, and Quran says "Well they know, it is from their Lord"….they had been given sufficient warnings about it, form so many of their prophets.

And last but not the least from Jesus Christ, who warned them in no uncertain terms… "This cup will be taken from your hand and given to others who bring the fruit"!!

O Allah, bless your House with ever increasing Glory and Bounties and Blessings, and enable us to visit Thy Holy site again and again

Amen

PS:

I love and welcome such questions!!
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#41332 Jul 24, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
<quoted text>
You just don't get it do you MUG? You don't have the truth so your point is moot.
You can rant and rave all you like but the fact is that Islam and democracy are like oil and water. We are the water and you are the oil. You may light some fires but you will never survive without water. LOL
You are right, Islam and "Western Materialistic democracy" is like Oil and Water.

You cannot mix truth with falsehood. Western Democracy can be manipulated to elect and reelect such crooks of the first water as GWB the great and Tony Blair the Poodle.

Islam provides democracy in its true spirit.
Onix

Jacksonville, FL

#41333 Jul 24, 2013
http://www.skwirk.com.au/p-c_s-14_u-116_t-312...

Try to replace Communist with ISLAMIC .
Quote:
"No members of the CPA (ARABIC origin change } were to be given a job by the government and they could no longer work as a trade union official in an industrial company"
"....needed to make the CPA (ISLAM ) sound as dangerous as possible to Australian society and its constitution."
"...( ISLAMIC )to be declared an unlawful organisation and that the party's property could be seized and disposed of. Any other organisations that were suspected of being affiliated with the CPA ISLAMIC ) were also to be dissolved. Anyone who carried on the work of the party after it was declared illegal was to be jailed for five years. In addition, as soon as someone was declared to be a communist (muslim ), they were to be suspended from their job if it were in the federal government, the defence forces, or in the unions...
a communist (muslim ) was 'a person who supports or advocates the objectives, policies, teachings, principles or practices of communism ( ISLAMIC )"

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#41334 Jul 24, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
You are right, Islam and "Western Materialistic democracy" is like Oil and Water.
You cannot mix truth with falsehood. Western Democracy can be manipulated to elect and reelect such crooks of the first water as GWB the great and Tony Blair the Poodle.
Islam provides democracy in its true spirit.
Islam.

Of course I am right!!!!!!!!!!
Islam is a 1400 year old supreimsit ideology based on lies and arrogance

Islam's idea of democracy is a falsehood based on the lies of a false prophet.

People can contact me if they want to hear the real truth

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#41336 Jul 24, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Allah put men and women on this Earth to be equal .
So ask MUG what happened in his version of events?????

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#41338 Jul 24, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
A. Hajj And Muslim
Hajj is a specific ritual enjoined on Muslims who can afford to make a trip to Makkah.
It is performed on fixed dates,(08-13 of the Twelfth Month of Islamic Calendar, called DUL HIJJA). And there are fixed dates for specific rituals in other religions also, it is not a "strange thing" which was ordered to Muslims.
Muslims from all over the world , who can afford the costs and are able to bear the hardship, come to Makkah to take part in this Universal gathering, they perform rituals on specific dates and specific times, all these have strong links and remembrance of acts done by Prophet Abraham, who built the Kaaba and is Patriarch of all three major religions of world, Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
It is the biggest Universal gathering of muslims from every country and region.
But Kaaba is open round the clock for Muslims to pray and go round it and perform UMRAH, a minor pilgrimage at any time.
B. Makkah and Muslims, round the clock
Who says Makkah does not mean any thing to Muslims rest of year.
There is not a "Single moment" in entire 24 Hours period, when millions are not praying facing Kaaba!!
Without any doubt, it is the most celebrated and honored place in the entire world.
Other religious places only serve the need of local country, no one has this "Universal appeal" as Kaaba.
Only Allah would have visualized the Grand Honor for Kaaba, when He ordered His Messenger to change his direction from Jerusalem to Kaaba.
Oh , how much Jews lost at that moment, and Quran says "Well they know, it is from their Lord"….they had been given sufficient warnings about it, form so many of their prophets.
And last but not the least from Jesus Christ, who warned them in no uncertain terms… "This cup will be taken from your hand and given to others who bring the fruit"!!
O Allah, bless your House with ever increasing Glory and Bounties and Blessings, and enable us to visit Thy Holy site again and again
Amen
PS:
I love and welcome such questions!!
Why are there specific dates to visit Mecca ?
MUQ shame of the Haj

Australia

#41339 Jul 24, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Hajj (08-13 of the Twelfth Month of Islamic Calendar, called DUL HIJJA ( October), same time as the goats perform similar seasonal ritual. Prophet Abraham, who built the Kaaba
millions praying facing Kaaba!! Object and place worship written in by Abu Bakr as he owned the place - was Jerusalem. Jews lost (ha! Islamic rationalism of the failure in that area...)
Jesus Christ,(sura 4 153/158 - failed false prophet) then misquoted.
I love and welcome such questions!!
MUQ - back to the taqiyya I see. Pathetic.
Are the mutaween on your case ?
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• Abraham didn't build the kaaba - neither Mecca nor the kaaba (area or structure) at Mecca existed in his time and he never went there.
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Every town had a kaaba & the basis of the Haj ritual - predates islam. As the goats gather in a place with the females in estrus - so did the nomadic Arabs in the moon/Venus autumn conjunction (mid oct) to mix, mingle, sniff and smell then perform the sex ritual.
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The Muslims prayed to Jerusalem, then to Mecca. Why is that. We both know the real answer but you are too ashamed to admit it..
Muhammad ascended over.. Jerusalem. Several caliphates insisted on being buried in Jerusalem..
Because Abu Bakr changed the holy place - the Mecca Kaaba was just the Haj sex ritual and after Abu Bakr & Aisha murdered Muhammad the Quran was rewritten to redirect it to Mecca.
Who owned Allah as his families tribal god creation, replaced Hubal with Muhammad, overlaid the book of T'ubah with Allah, black stone, Mecca, Sabean & vedic cult rituals and fake idols,,, Abu Bakr.
Muhammad said of the Haj & the Mecca kabaa "let the idle and ignorant pass thru it's doors and prostrate before it, it is of no consequence'.
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Clearly MUQ you are a follower of the evil & corrupted Abu Bakr who Muhammad warned about before he was murdered by Abu Bakr & his daughter Aisha - he said "it (islam) will be corrupted by the Bakri and I will be killed by them in their pursuit of those things which are true, so you will have a choice to follow a path of which I have rescinded, turn on your heel and walk away" - muhammad being murdered by the Meccan qureeshi Bakr because he stated just before he was murdered that it was all fake.
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muhammad would be shocked and ashamed at you MUQ - he really would. You should die in shame as you have all the information on his recession and final days as well as his murder.
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And yet you still trot out your taqiyya re the Haj, the falsehoods of mecca, the false pagan & object cult worship and you follow the corrupt and evil path of the Meccan Bakri that Muhammad warned against.

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#41340 Jul 24, 2013
I am very proud Indian Airforce officer and proud to be homosexual and a muslim

In my village there were too few little girls so my father put me in a dress and call me dark pearl faced boy.

my bottom hurt very much but i bring much please to my muslim brothers.

i now think i love MUQ he very sexy man in arab homeland.
Haj shame

Australia

#41341 Jul 24, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are there specific dates to visit Mecca ?
Goats and Arabs in the Arabian peninsula share the same needs in inbreeding and the climate & seasonality. They have to mix & mingle the limited gene pool and have to mate around mid October (estrus) to have birthing in april (goats), July (arabs) That's why the date : no other
reason. The moon & Venus ritual predates Islam and was widespread in every place of Arabs gathering around a local place, and then a stone or object to smear their body fluids on a object then select a sex mate.
There is no other date - too early or later on, the offspring would have reduced chances of survival in the desert seasons.
It's a simple as that.
All the Islamic Haj and the consolidation to Mecca and destroying all the other hundreds of kaaba's across the arabian peninsular was done by the Bakri tribe to force trade & pilgrimage to Mecca which Abu Bakr owned.
Muhammad prayed to Jerusalem as did all Muslims before Abu Bakr forced the change.
The Haj fertility ritual was quite separate to praying to Allah in jerusalem - until Abu Bakr combined them.
Another plot hole in islam ... as extensive historical & archeological evidence that the Haj gathering & fertility ritual in october long predates Islam and is entirely of pagan and multiple place origin and practice.
Pure biological adaption to the type of humans that could survive in a desert climate in practice and timing. Totally pagan in origin and as
practiced even to this day - the objects, ritual and purpose of gathering all illustrate that.
Of Sabean origin with Vedic ceremony. Allah via Hubal was not worshipped in the Haj ritual at all until Abu Bakr synthesized the two into his place, his god and his objects. Muhammad didnt agree, he believed Allah and the heavenly 'portal' was in jerusalem, & the kaaba did not represent a place Allah could be worshipped thru, just the Haj or Sabean ritual only.
This is why the Bakr murdered muhammad.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#41342 Jul 24, 2013
Haj shame wrote:
<quoted text>
Goats and Arabs in the Arabian peninsula share the same needs in inbreeding and the climate & seasonality. They have to mix & mingle the limited gene pool and have to mate around mid October (estrus) to have birthing in april (goats), July (arabs) That's why the date : no other
reason. The moon & Venus ritual predates Islam and was widespread in every place of Arabs gathering around a local place, and then a stone or object to smear their body fluids on a object then select a sex mate.
There is no other date - too early or later on, the offspring would have reduced chances of survival in the desert seasons.
It's a simple as that.
All the Islamic Haj and the consolidation to Mecca and destroying all the other hundreds of kaaba's across the arabian peninsular was done by the Bakri tribe to force trade & pilgrimage to Mecca which Abu Bakr owned.
Muhammad prayed to Jerusalem as did all Muslims before Abu Bakr forced the change.
The Haj fertility ritual was quite separate to praying to Allah in jerusalem - until Abu Bakr combined them.
Another plot hole in islam ... as extensive historical & archeological evidence that the Haj gathering & fertility ritual in october long predates Islam and is entirely of pagan and multiple place origin and practice.
Pure biological adaption to the type of humans that could survive in a desert climate in practice and timing. Totally pagan in origin and as
practiced even to this day - the objects, ritual and purpose of gathering all illustrate that.
Of Sabean origin with Vedic ceremony. Allah via Hubal was not worshipped in the Haj ritual at all until Abu Bakr synthesized the two into his place, his god and his objects. Muhammad didnt agree, he believed Allah and the heavenly 'portal' was in jerusalem, & the kaaba did not represent a place Allah could be worshipped thru, just the Haj or Sabean ritual only.
This is why the Bakr murdered muhammad.
Thankyou godly one.
straa

UK

#41343 Jul 24, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
A. Hajj And Muslim
Hajj is a specific ritual enjoined on Muslims who can afford to make a trip to Makkah.
It is performed on fixed dates,(08-13 of the Twelfth Month of Islamic Calendar, called DUL HIJJA). And there are fixed dates for specific rituals in other religions also, it is not a "strange thing" which was ordered to Muslims.
Muslims from all over the world , who can afford the costs and are able to bear the hardship, come to Makkah to take part in this Universal gathering, they perform rituals on specific dates and specific times, all these have strong links and remembrance of acts done by Prophet Abraham, who built the Kaaba and is Patriarch of all three major religions of world, Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
It is the biggest Universal gathering of muslims from every country and region.
But Kaaba is open round the clock for Muslims to pray and go round it and perform UMRAH, a minor pilgrimage at any time.
B. Makkah and Muslims, round the clock
Who says Makkah does not mean any thing to Muslims rest of year.
There is not a "Single moment" in entire 24 Hours period, when millions are not praying facing Kaaba!!
Without any doubt, it is the most celebrated and honored place in the entire world.
Other religious places only serve the need of local country, no one has this "Universal appeal" as Kaaba.
Only Allah would have visualized the Grand Honor for Kaaba, when He ordered His Messenger to change his direction from Jerusalem to Kaaba.
Oh , how much Jews lost at that moment, and Quran says "Well they know, it is from their Lord"….they had been given sufficient warnings about it, form so many of their prophets.
And last but not the least from Jesus Christ, who warned them in no uncertain terms… "This cup will be taken from your hand and given to others who bring the fruit"!!
O Allah, bless your House with ever increasing Glory and Bounties and Blessings, and enable us to visit Thy Holy site again and again
Amen
PS:
I love and welcome such questions!!
What's the difference between Sunni and shia, and why did island suddenly change from a liberal accepting tolerant religeon, to a hardliner, extremest jihadists of today, do you think it is a self defence mechanism against western imperialism, a way of uniting Muslims in a common cause, that is why Indonesia became Muslim, to unite the people to keep the Europeans out
straa

UK

#41344 Jul 24, 2013
Edit, Islam not island

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#41345 Jul 24, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Allah put men and women on this Earth to be equal

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There is no God called allah, unless of course you are speaking of a false god

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