Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

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mutley

Brisbane, Australia

#41032 Jul 11, 2013
yeah Lowry could afford to give away some money.. all jews only have baby boys it seems.. lowry and sons are bleeding aust dry. I never shop at westfield.. to hard to get a park and way to crowded and way to over priced.. I don't think Murdoch is a jew though.. see how chinese shops always get the money first before handing over goods ????the word ... refund.... or money back... does not exist to them.chinese just have sons also.
Origins

Australia

#41033 Jul 11, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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All from the same histories .
All from egypt actually - Akhenaten invented the concept of a 'pre universal' abstracted monotheistic god.
Abraham/the Jews then took the idea, added in some Canaanite rituals, humanised the god figure and the concept of a portable idol (the ark of the covenant) and then he smashed the fixed
idols.
Judaism, Christianity are just variation.
Buddhism is an anti religion.
Hindu is just paganism.
Islam... Doesn't even rate. Exposed as lies, the lineage to Abraham is completely false, the Quran is a crude heretical apostasy, and their Allah,,, is of a moon god cult that only existed from 180 as a god and with a fixed object idol.
So in many ways, islam is a poor reversion back almost 2,400 years to fixed idol, object worship and paganism.
man of old earth

New Delhi, India

#41034 Jul 11, 2013
hinduism is derived from vedic ideas of the samkhya (count, compute) and yoga,( join, chains of logic and information)( not just slow exercises), mimansha- the enquiry philosophy, and the Nayaya philosophy of akshapeda gautama, that focused on the logics of logics itself, etc. These are the main orhodox hindu philosophy.

Common to all these branches of hinduism, are the principles of

1) Ahimsa- non violence, and vedic pluralism(allow people of all ideas to be and express their mind and try convince others thru debate, except ideas that advocate violent overthrow of other cultures/ ideas like monocultures like islam etc.)

2) Dharma- laws of society thought out by wise men so society and individuals are peaceful, progressive and happy for long. Dharma is set of laws of society that helps people discern right from wrong, and a persons karma (action / behavior shud be according to these laws).

3) Veda- reveal truths of nature ie knowledge by sense and focused thought, then recording the conclusion for others to build upon. Thus ved is a way to aquire all knowledge.

If such hinduism is paganism, paganism must be a very good thing.
man of old earth

New Delhi, India

#41035 Jul 11, 2013
google with "wiki hindu philosophy" if anyone wants to know more about real hindu philosophy rather than just "hindu is paganism".
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#41036 Jul 12, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Yes that is a big question seeing he profited personally greatly financially from money destined towards the suffering peoples who looked to him for salvation.
He was a political leader, and you know what politicians are these days.

But he was no authority on Islam and has no relevance in our discussions.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#41037 Jul 12, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Not good enough,have another think .
It was as best as I could based on my limited knowledge.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#41038 Jul 12, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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Islam is a blatant plagiarism of both Jewish and Christian scriptures . It was used to cover its violent ideology and God will call its followers to account on the last day. Mug will be more accountable than most because he has promoted his filthy pedophile and his lies to who knows how many on this and other forums
Thank you Ma'am for your honey dipping words. May Allah reward you in the same coin on last day.

Ameen.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#41039 Jul 12, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Thank you Ma'am for your honey dipping words. May Allah reward you in the same coin on last day.
Ameen.
Don't kid yourself there is no allah only a false moon god, and the rantings of a lunatic prophet. You have stated that you don't post to me and yet here you are doing just that. This is not a good indication of your truthfulness but no surprises here.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#41040 Jul 12, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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It was as best as I could based on my limited knowledge.
Limited ??
Goodness gracious, you of all the scribes before me here I would think you have a limitless knowledge ,shame it be bias on some occasions but we may be able to fix you eventually.
Go away tosser

Australia

#41042 Jul 12, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Not with this gem of white trash culture convict, blah blah blah
Go away,
your off topic
your boring

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#41043 Jul 12, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Not with this gem of white trash culture convict, you won't fix anyone, try fixing yourself first
Assault with a meat tenderiser, assault with a vacuum cleaner and more than 60 counts of rape were listed on more than a hundred charge sheets, relating to a man and woman, presented to a Melbourne court on Friday.
The accused, facing court in separate hearings, were also charged with imprisoning their young victim and holding her hostage at a Melbourne city property over a period of two months late last year.
It took police more than six months to sift through more than 450 hours of video footage in connection with the disturbing case, a court has heard.
Alfio Anthony Granata, 44, and Jennifer Mary Peaston, 32, are alleged to have imprisoned the woman at a Preston property.
The pair are accused of 179 offences each, including detaining the woman against her will, multiple threats to kill, 62 charges of rape and 85 counts of assault.
Police allege the woman was being held hostage and was attacked with a wooden dough-roller, the shaft of a vacuum cleaner and a jet lighter, court documents reveal.
In one instance, Peaston is accused of holding the woman down while Granata kicked her repeatedly, the documents say.
The pair also face charges relating to the possession and trafficking of drugs.
Granata's lawyer complained of the lengthy process that had left his client anxiously waiting in custody.
Granata, whose hair was pulled into a ponytail, did not speak during his brief appearance.
Both were remanded in custody to reappear in court on August 30.
How many crimes were commited by different nationalities within Australia.
man of old earth

Delhi, India

#41044 Jul 12, 2013
islam is on the decline everywhere.

good always wins over evil in the end.

ignorance is evil

islam makes muslims slaves, and keeps them ignorant.

islam promises its followers all good things in afterlife, if they are believers, and do what is deemed to be good in islam, no questions asked.

muslims need to ask why an all powerful allah would ask people to do any thing one way or another, good or bad, if it is only the afterlife where the results are. Maybe they were being manipulated by the founders of their religion into doing good (good as percieved by them), or into doing their bidding.

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Maybe all the results expected were all right here, in this life, in our world.

Maybe afterlife is the life that comes afterwards, which is the life of our future generations, not just our children, but their children, and all future children unborn. To think of their well being as well as our own,:- is to think of paradise in the afterlife for those not smart enough for the truth, or wise enough to care (for the unborn generations).

Most people wont think or care aboutt these things, only those with prophet like qualities would. Was mohammad a prophet? If you consider what most muslims are today and their lives and ways, compared to average people say in the non islamic japan korea or even germany, mohammad must not have been far sighted enough, if at all.
William

Anonymous Proxy

#41045 Jul 12, 2013
I prefer the laws of nature.

Interesting that Europeans followed these laws before Christianity, and we had our own powerful and advanced nations, able to throw off the racist Asian mongol invasion and racist Arab invasion.

Now, we are told to "turn the other cheek"

LOL - Wouldn't indoctrinating your enemy to "turn the other cheek" be the best way to nullify your enemy?

Yes - and that is what has been done.

So, wake up. We're not stupid infact, we are very intelligent, but very malleable in psychological terms.

Smash your programming and be free.
man of old earth

Delhi, India

#41046 Jul 12, 2013
islams time is up. time to move on to betrer ways of life. islam or any cultures is past its due date when all it has in suoport of itself is tribalistic defense - "It is our culture, our way, our / my identity"

All other logic and arguments are then beyond any debate or challenge, and all that shines thru are egotists joined together in pride, demanding respect, and a whole lot of insult taking when ever anyone contradict the basics of islam.

And yes mohammad was a very bad man. The koran is the proof of that. Muslims should burn the koran as it really shows mohammad in the worst possible light, the ultimate insult to mohammad and his ways. Maybe koran is right tho huh? Mo was really a bad man? I mean sure koran praises mohammad and his ways a lot, and so do muslims, but anybody outsider reading it unbiased, will surely say that all that killing and igotistic insult taking and pride and subjugation with physical might is absolutely wrong and very bad. You can not convince people with the threats and fear of the sword EVER. If you had to use might and sword and violence, then YOU are wrong and probably know your own arguments are wrong and so the listener will probably reject you arguments and disprove them.

So islam spread the only way it could, by the sword and fear of it.

Surely right and good ways are to offer logic and rational ways, prove your ways are better, and let the people decide without causing duress and threatening them. If you threatened people then how do you ever know if they really are convinced your way is better or just trying to survive.

Islam is evil, and was evil all along, its ways are evil, its ways are violence and egotistic insult taking and tribalistic defence of my way is the right way, reject all other ways, every thing else is wrong, especially if it contradicts islam.
William

Anonymous Proxy

#41047 Jul 12, 2013
man of old earth wrote:
islams time is up. time to move on to betrer ways of life. islam or any cultures is past its due date when all it has in suoport of itself is tribalistic defense - "It is our culture, our way, our / my identity"
All other logic and arguments are then beyond any debate or challenge, and all that shines thru are egotists joined together in pride, demanding respect, and a whole lot of insult taking when ever anyone contradict the basics of islam.
And yes mohammad was a very bad man. The koran is the proof of that. Muslims should burn the koran as it really shows mohammad in the worst possible light, the ultimate insult to mohammad and his ways. Maybe koran is right tho huh? Mo was really a bad man? I mean sure koran praises mohammad and his ways a lot, and so do muslims, but anybody outsider reading it unbiased, will surely say that all that killing and igotistic insult taking and pride and subjugation with physical might is absolutely wrong and very bad. You can not convince people with the threats and fear of the sword EVER. If you had to use might and sword and violence, then YOU are wrong and probably know your own arguments are wrong and so the listener will probably reject you arguments and disprove them.
So islam spread the only way it could, by the sword and fear of it.
Surely right and good ways are to offer logic and rational ways, prove your ways are better, and let the people decide without causing duress and threatening them. If you threatened people then how do you ever know if they really are convinced your way is better or just trying to survive.
Islam is evil, and was evil all along, its ways are evil, its ways are violence and egotistic insult taking and tribalistic defence of my way is the right way, reject all other ways, every thing else is wrong, especially if it contradicts islam.
Islam is evil - do Muslims let themselves into White nations?

Nope - it's being done by anti-Whites in power over our White nations.

Who are they? Well, mostly Jews.
man of old earth

Delhi, India

#41048 Jul 12, 2013
William wrote:
I prefer the laws of nature.
Interesting that Europeans followed these laws before Christianity, and we had our own powerful and advanced nations, able to throw off the racist Asian mongol invasion and racist Arab invasion.
Now, we are told to "turn the other cheek"
LOL - Wouldn't indoctrinating your enemy to "turn the other cheek" be the best way to nullify your enemy?
Yes - and that is what has been done.
So, wake up. We're not stupid infact, we are very intelligent, but very malleable in psychological terms.
Smash your programming and be free.
meaningless rhetoric and more tribal ego needing its defense - we were great, all others are less than us, and out to get us (which might be true).

And yeah all so natural. Nature - the giver of life, and all its bounties to those it bestowed life to. And made them so animalistic, egotistic, survivalists, tribalists, unity a tool of survival, so tribalism is such a good thing, natural. Even animals are gregarious!

And the same nature so cruel, so arbitrary, killing for no reason or rhyme, an earthquake here, a flood famine there, and "natural" deaths everywhere.

Murder is natural, so is greed and anger and hate and (personal / tribal / cultural) ego, To steal is natural, and there have been thieves in all cultures thrugh out history. And robbers and rapists and transgressors of other sorts.

Love is natural, so is intellect, that which lets us do better than before, artificial, of man, while still being all so very natural. We are always going to be part of nature, no matter what we do, can ever escape it, even in death!

So saying "we follow laws of nature" is really not saying much, not much substance it the statement. You would be better off following laws of a man made gor (or is ot god / allah now a days?). Your kind would be the first to fall into the false logics of islam like religions and their promise of virgins and goodies in afterlife, if you submit to the will of allah, do the bidding of his representative calif, shun music and grow a beard among other things all to please allah.

Yes, your kind would likely be owned by allahs will, flowing thru the current ruler representative of allah, or what ever other names of allah god and his representative calif pope king prevalent at the time. The weak of mind are always the first to fall, and they are the reason for god/allahs manufacture, survival and successful existence.
man of old earth

Delhi, India

#41049 Jul 12, 2013
my loyalty is to no tribe, no culture, to no country or religion.

My only loyalty is to the rational of goodness, the idea that certain behaviours are good for individuals, for societies, and also for the people unborn and yet to come. That which increases peace, progress and happiness for all living and still to come to life, for the longest time, is what must be good.

Where does your loyalty lie? To the good, or to something else?

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#41052 Jul 12, 2013
Wobble headhunter LLOL wrote:
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LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, I really get up your convict arse , don't I ? LLOL, that is the intent you uneducated simple minded convict ....LLOL,LLOL
Yeah it seems most Muslims have plenty of experience getting up others asses. They are taught from a young age how give and how to receive LOL
man of old earth

Delhi, India

#41053 Jul 12, 2013
Wobble headhunter LLOL wrote:
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You stupid wobble head slumdog there are almost three hundred million Muslims in your cowpiss drinking nation LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, if that means Islam is dying then we pray it happens more quickly, your dik worshipping Hindus are scared shite,less of Muslims who keep 800 million ugly smelly Hindus in their place. Hindus don't even dare to go near Muslim strongholds and take their caps off in presence of Muslims, we have travelled in your smelly country and are aware of the reality. LLOL,LLOL, It seems soon the Pakis will liberate Kashmir and the rest of your gutter will be taken over by China...LLOL,
People dont even have to know the word hindu, to already have become one.

AHIMSA- If one understands non violence and pluralism, to NOT ever try win debates with a sword, but only with good or better logic.

DHARMA- If one undersrands the concept of Laws rationalized by man for the well being of man.

VEDA- If one understands that knowledge is way more useful than ignorance, and that we can use our capabilities of sense and intellect to aquire knowledge of the universe, of ourselves and of knowledge of ways and behaviours that work best for us in the long run.

Today their are 6 and half billion peoples on earth or there abouts who subscribe to those ideas. And more muslims are joining up than ever before, inspite of the islamists efforts. Lol and dont be depressed, its a good thing.
man of old earth

Delhi, India

#41054 Jul 12, 2013
To answer islam with hate and provocation, is just a way to strengthen islam and islamists. An old ploy by imperialists in west and elsewhere to keep em down and under islam (to control and not a challenge or vying for earths resources).

Yes islam suits the imperialists, has served them rather well ever since it was made, lol the religion of the slaves, to enslave and keep them happy with nothing or little in life. Lest they asked for more, there there, there are good things for you in the afterlife. Theres a good slave, the only good life (freedom) for you is the afterlife (death). Now where else have we heard that - death as the only way to freedom for a slave?

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TO FIGHT EVIL WITH EVIL, IS THE SADEST THING, CAUSE YOU'VE LOST ALREADY, AND LONG SINCE JOINED THE OTHER SIDE ||

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Only way to fight evil (islam, imperialism, etc) is with love in our hearts, and sound sincere logic on our tongues. Where you were born does not matter, was not your choice. But the daily choice between good and evil, that one is yours alone everytime.

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