Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

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man of old earth

Delhi, India

#41044 Jul 12, 2013
islam is on the decline everywhere.

good always wins over evil in the end.

ignorance is evil

islam makes muslims slaves, and keeps them ignorant.

islam promises its followers all good things in afterlife, if they are believers, and do what is deemed to be good in islam, no questions asked.

muslims need to ask why an all powerful allah would ask people to do any thing one way or another, good or bad, if it is only the afterlife where the results are. Maybe they were being manipulated by the founders of their religion into doing good (good as percieved by them), or into doing their bidding.

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Maybe all the results expected were all right here, in this life, in our world.

Maybe afterlife is the life that comes afterwards, which is the life of our future generations, not just our children, but their children, and all future children unborn. To think of their well being as well as our own,:- is to think of paradise in the afterlife for those not smart enough for the truth, or wise enough to care (for the unborn generations).

Most people wont think or care aboutt these things, only those with prophet like qualities would. Was mohammad a prophet? If you consider what most muslims are today and their lives and ways, compared to average people say in the non islamic japan korea or even germany, mohammad must not have been far sighted enough, if at all.
William

Anonymous Proxy

#41045 Jul 12, 2013
I prefer the laws of nature.

Interesting that Europeans followed these laws before Christianity, and we had our own powerful and advanced nations, able to throw off the racist Asian mongol invasion and racist Arab invasion.

Now, we are told to "turn the other cheek"

LOL - Wouldn't indoctrinating your enemy to "turn the other cheek" be the best way to nullify your enemy?

Yes - and that is what has been done.

So, wake up. We're not stupid infact, we are very intelligent, but very malleable in psychological terms.

Smash your programming and be free.
man of old earth

Delhi, India

#41046 Jul 12, 2013
islams time is up. time to move on to betrer ways of life. islam or any cultures is past its due date when all it has in suoport of itself is tribalistic defense - "It is our culture, our way, our / my identity"

All other logic and arguments are then beyond any debate or challenge, and all that shines thru are egotists joined together in pride, demanding respect, and a whole lot of insult taking when ever anyone contradict the basics of islam.

And yes mohammad was a very bad man. The koran is the proof of that. Muslims should burn the koran as it really shows mohammad in the worst possible light, the ultimate insult to mohammad and his ways. Maybe koran is right tho huh? Mo was really a bad man? I mean sure koran praises mohammad and his ways a lot, and so do muslims, but anybody outsider reading it unbiased, will surely say that all that killing and igotistic insult taking and pride and subjugation with physical might is absolutely wrong and very bad. You can not convince people with the threats and fear of the sword EVER. If you had to use might and sword and violence, then YOU are wrong and probably know your own arguments are wrong and so the listener will probably reject you arguments and disprove them.

So islam spread the only way it could, by the sword and fear of it.

Surely right and good ways are to offer logic and rational ways, prove your ways are better, and let the people decide without causing duress and threatening them. If you threatened people then how do you ever know if they really are convinced your way is better or just trying to survive.

Islam is evil, and was evil all along, its ways are evil, its ways are violence and egotistic insult taking and tribalistic defence of my way is the right way, reject all other ways, every thing else is wrong, especially if it contradicts islam.
William

Anonymous Proxy

#41047 Jul 12, 2013
man of old earth wrote:
islams time is up. time to move on to betrer ways of life. islam or any cultures is past its due date when all it has in suoport of itself is tribalistic defense - "It is our culture, our way, our / my identity"
All other logic and arguments are then beyond any debate or challenge, and all that shines thru are egotists joined together in pride, demanding respect, and a whole lot of insult taking when ever anyone contradict the basics of islam.
And yes mohammad was a very bad man. The koran is the proof of that. Muslims should burn the koran as it really shows mohammad in the worst possible light, the ultimate insult to mohammad and his ways. Maybe koran is right tho huh? Mo was really a bad man? I mean sure koran praises mohammad and his ways a lot, and so do muslims, but anybody outsider reading it unbiased, will surely say that all that killing and igotistic insult taking and pride and subjugation with physical might is absolutely wrong and very bad. You can not convince people with the threats and fear of the sword EVER. If you had to use might and sword and violence, then YOU are wrong and probably know your own arguments are wrong and so the listener will probably reject you arguments and disprove them.
So islam spread the only way it could, by the sword and fear of it.
Surely right and good ways are to offer logic and rational ways, prove your ways are better, and let the people decide without causing duress and threatening them. If you threatened people then how do you ever know if they really are convinced your way is better or just trying to survive.
Islam is evil, and was evil all along, its ways are evil, its ways are violence and egotistic insult taking and tribalistic defence of my way is the right way, reject all other ways, every thing else is wrong, especially if it contradicts islam.
Islam is evil - do Muslims let themselves into White nations?

Nope - it's being done by anti-Whites in power over our White nations.

Who are they? Well, mostly Jews.
man of old earth

Delhi, India

#41048 Jul 12, 2013
William wrote:
I prefer the laws of nature.
Interesting that Europeans followed these laws before Christianity, and we had our own powerful and advanced nations, able to throw off the racist Asian mongol invasion and racist Arab invasion.
Now, we are told to "turn the other cheek"
LOL - Wouldn't indoctrinating your enemy to "turn the other cheek" be the best way to nullify your enemy?
Yes - and that is what has been done.
So, wake up. We're not stupid infact, we are very intelligent, but very malleable in psychological terms.
Smash your programming and be free.
meaningless rhetoric and more tribal ego needing its defense - we were great, all others are less than us, and out to get us (which might be true).

And yeah all so natural. Nature - the giver of life, and all its bounties to those it bestowed life to. And made them so animalistic, egotistic, survivalists, tribalists, unity a tool of survival, so tribalism is such a good thing, natural. Even animals are gregarious!

And the same nature so cruel, so arbitrary, killing for no reason or rhyme, an earthquake here, a flood famine there, and "natural" deaths everywhere.

Murder is natural, so is greed and anger and hate and (personal / tribal / cultural) ego, To steal is natural, and there have been thieves in all cultures thrugh out history. And robbers and rapists and transgressors of other sorts.

Love is natural, so is intellect, that which lets us do better than before, artificial, of man, while still being all so very natural. We are always going to be part of nature, no matter what we do, can ever escape it, even in death!

So saying "we follow laws of nature" is really not saying much, not much substance it the statement. You would be better off following laws of a man made gor (or is ot god / allah now a days?). Your kind would be the first to fall into the false logics of islam like religions and their promise of virgins and goodies in afterlife, if you submit to the will of allah, do the bidding of his representative calif, shun music and grow a beard among other things all to please allah.

Yes, your kind would likely be owned by allahs will, flowing thru the current ruler representative of allah, or what ever other names of allah god and his representative calif pope king prevalent at the time. The weak of mind are always the first to fall, and they are the reason for god/allahs manufacture, survival and successful existence.
man of old earth

Delhi, India

#41049 Jul 12, 2013
my loyalty is to no tribe, no culture, to no country or religion.

My only loyalty is to the rational of goodness, the idea that certain behaviours are good for individuals, for societies, and also for the people unborn and yet to come. That which increases peace, progress and happiness for all living and still to come to life, for the longest time, is what must be good.

Where does your loyalty lie? To the good, or to something else?

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#41052 Jul 12, 2013
Wobble headhunter LLOL wrote:
<quoted text>
LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, I really get up your convict arse , don't I ? LLOL, that is the intent you uneducated simple minded convict ....LLOL,LLOL
Yeah it seems most Muslims have plenty of experience getting up others asses. They are taught from a young age how give and how to receive LOL
man of old earth

Delhi, India

#41053 Jul 12, 2013
Wobble headhunter LLOL wrote:
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You stupid wobble head slumdog there are almost three hundred million Muslims in your cowpiss drinking nation LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, if that means Islam is dying then we pray it happens more quickly, your dik worshipping Hindus are scared shite,less of Muslims who keep 800 million ugly smelly Hindus in their place. Hindus don't even dare to go near Muslim strongholds and take their caps off in presence of Muslims, we have travelled in your smelly country and are aware of the reality. LLOL,LLOL, It seems soon the Pakis will liberate Kashmir and the rest of your gutter will be taken over by China...LLOL,
People dont even have to know the word hindu, to already have become one.

AHIMSA- If one understands non violence and pluralism, to NOT ever try win debates with a sword, but only with good or better logic.

DHARMA- If one undersrands the concept of Laws rationalized by man for the well being of man.

VEDA- If one understands that knowledge is way more useful than ignorance, and that we can use our capabilities of sense and intellect to aquire knowledge of the universe, of ourselves and of knowledge of ways and behaviours that work best for us in the long run.

Today their are 6 and half billion peoples on earth or there abouts who subscribe to those ideas. And more muslims are joining up than ever before, inspite of the islamists efforts. Lol and dont be depressed, its a good thing.
man of old earth

Delhi, India

#41054 Jul 12, 2013
To answer islam with hate and provocation, is just a way to strengthen islam and islamists. An old ploy by imperialists in west and elsewhere to keep em down and under islam (to control and not a challenge or vying for earths resources).

Yes islam suits the imperialists, has served them rather well ever since it was made, lol the religion of the slaves, to enslave and keep them happy with nothing or little in life. Lest they asked for more, there there, there are good things for you in the afterlife. Theres a good slave, the only good life (freedom) for you is the afterlife (death). Now where else have we heard that - death as the only way to freedom for a slave?

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TO FIGHT EVIL WITH EVIL, IS THE SADEST THING, CAUSE YOU'VE LOST ALREADY, AND LONG SINCE JOINED THE OTHER SIDE ||

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Only way to fight evil (islam, imperialism, etc) is with love in our hearts, and sound sincere logic on our tongues. Where you were born does not matter, was not your choice. But the daily choice between good and evil, that one is yours alone everytime.
man of old earth

Delhi, India

#41055 Jul 12, 2013
And I will hold you to that.
peter

Melbourne, Australia

#41056 Jul 12, 2013
man of old earth wrote:
my loyalty is to no tribe, no culture, to no country or religion.
My only loyalty is to the rational of goodness, the idea that certain behaviours are good for individuals, for societies, and also for the people unborn and yet to come. That which increases peace, progress and happiness for all living and still to come to life, for the longest time, is what must be good.
Where does your loyalty lie? To the good, or to something else?
That's great who gives a fcuk !
Neegaar Cather

Melbourne, Australia

#41057 Jul 12, 2013
Wobble headhunter LLOL wrote:
<quoted text>
LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, I really get up your convict arse , don't I ? LLOL, that is the intent you uneducated simple minded convict ....LLOL,LLOL
Shut up you stinking Immigrant, What was your Filthy No Good Home land again Dog..... oh that's right your too ashamed of your FILTHY culture to reveal it ... HA Ha ha LOSERS
man of old earth

New Delhi, India

#41058 Jul 12, 2013
peter wrote:
<quoted text> That's great who gives a fcuk !
Maybe you do. Surely lots of others.

Its catchy logic for a post tribal technoSocial world. TO BE LOYAL TO THE LOGIC OF GOOD, rather than the old system of nations of lands , cultural identities and tribes.

Why else would so many accross the world support Malala Yufufzai. Or Edward Snowden. And defy their own governments, and go against their own tribal instincts?
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#41059 Jul 12, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Limited ??
Goodness gracious, you of all the scribes before me here I would think you have a limitless knowledge ,shame it be bias on some occasions but we may be able to fix you eventually.
You do flatter me! What I do is but a couple of "Cut and pastes" each day!!

MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#41060 Jul 12, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

Euphemisms Away!
A World in Which Truth is a Dying Species

By Gaither Stewart

November 02, 2012 "Information Clearing House" - Rome - Hidden away somewhere within the labyrinth of the Pentagon there must be a top secret euphemism department engaged in the invention of the Orwellian surrogate words that have crept surreptitiously into the American English vocabulary and from there translated into many other languages. In my mind I see a unit of studiously serious executives, coffee mugs in their hands and their neckties awry, devising senseless terms for terrible things and used unthinkingly by people today from New York to California, from Maine to Texas.

The goal of my imaginary secret unit is to render ugly terms meaningless or to transform them into their opposite. To quote the perceptive Scottish writer, Candia McWilliam,“plain words are always under threat.” There are words that don’t say what they mean and there are words that say what they don’t mean.

Intensified or enhanced interrogation sounds oh so much more genteel than the hideous word TORTURE. Collateral damage goes down quite well instead of the savage bombing and strafing of a funeral procession or a wedding party. Military leaders themselves have come to love the suggestive word “footprints” to indicate the evidence of America’s powerful presence throughout the world:“We were here and we leave this little sign with you.” A little footprint, maybe a fleet of super bombers or Predator drones.

The point to keep in mind is that the names of things, issues, objects of life change, but the substance of the object itself remains—torture will always be torture, no matter what the gnomes propose and the media parrot.

Today, though generally unknown among the public, the relatively new term,“lily pad”, is making its way forward to describe not that beautiful manifestation of nature but the new version of America’s over 1000 military bases and garrisons spreading across some 150 countries of planet Earth. You can always count on those Pentagon gnomes. They regularly come up with something new. It remains unclear however if they first invent the terms and the military executes their implications or if the military experiments with a new lethal strategy and the gnomes then give it a purified label.

In the case of the “lily pad”, this linguistic version of the sheep in wolf’s clothing, was allegedly conceived to spread the U.S. footprint into every corner of our planet and to make military bases more effective and comprehensive while giving the impression that the government is both protecting “our way of life”, while also saving taxpayer money—money then used for more weapons and the hiring of more mercenaries and for payoffs to eager satraps of the Empire’s vassal states; some nations, peoples, and even minor empires can be more easily bought than subdued militarily.

WHAT IS A MILITARY LILY PAD?

Nature’s lily pad is a floating leaf of the white water lily family. The scientific name of lily pad is nymphaea odorata. You might see a bullfrog sitting on a lily pad in a pond. The lily pad does not sink under its weight. The giant water lily, victoria amazonica, has the world’s biggest lily pad, up to four feet, which can support the weight of several people at once. The lily pad lies tranquilly on the surface of the pond, offering both refuge and camouflage for the frog, protecting it from predators. The lily pad fits in with its natural surroundings, as does the frog.
Baba Yoga

Houston, TX

#41061 Jul 12, 2013
Dr Steven Head is a muslim!!!!!!
man of old earth

New Delhi, India

#41062 Jul 12, 2013
Egyptians have proved how silly and useless islamic ideas are. Morsi enforced islamic ideas and quickly sent egypt into economic and social crisis. If Egyptians had islamic laws from start, they would not ever have tasted the better life, never ever realizing what they were missing.

But Egyptians had already tasted better life, and were not prepared to settle for islamic austerity and stone age life under mandatory sharia.

Yes, the devout muslim slave (of allah?) will readily settle for lot less, so the imperialists can have their 'lot more'. No wonder USA govt. supported Morsi and his hard line buddies.

Islam will never allow for capitalism, and so no industrialization, pity, all that oil...maybe that is a good thing?
Bill

Guildford, UK

#41064 Jul 13, 2013
They had a 100k per year kill quota of Hindus apparently. Sick fucks.

The Bahmani sultans (1347–1480) in central India made it a rule to kill 100,000 Hindus (kafir - non-believers) every year. In 1399, Teimur killed 100,000 captives in a single day.[104][105] Historian asserts that "These wars were fought in the true spirit of Jihad — the total annihilation or conversion of the non-Muslims."[106][107]
Vpl

Australia

#41065 Jul 13, 2013
William wrote:
<quoted text>
Islam is evil - do Muslims let themselves into White nations?
Nope - it's being done by anti-Whites in power over our White nations.
Who are they? Well, mostly Jews.
No you are wrong it's the socialists which includes greens
MUQ jizya etc

Australia

#41066 Jul 13, 2013
Bill wrote:
The Bahmani sultans (1347–1480) in central India made it a rule to kill 100,000 Hindus (kafir - non-believers) every year.
In 1399, Teimur killed 100,000 captives in a single day.[104][105]
Historian asserts that "These wars were fought in the true spirit of Jihad — the total annihilation or conversion of the non-Muslims."[106][107]
Well that's fair enough - there would be far more people dying of disease or even natural causes than that - india had about 100 million people with around 7%-10% pop growth - massive overbreeding so say 7-10 million new Indians each year. To cull only 100,000 is a tiny tiny fraction, less than 0.1%.
Fact is Islam prefers subjugation rather than conversion. Under subjugation the non Muslims have to pay jizya tax whereas weak or converted Hindu to Islam (like MUQ's forebears) were only useful to a point as quisling tax collectors and spy's.
Islam in fact collapsed in countries where the weak and gutless natives 'converted' as no tax to collect or slaves. What happens then is a pecking order of superiority and racism emerges.
So in India with currently 160 Muslims of 1.3 b there is Shia and Sunni then caste systems within islam. All that disobey islam.
The Muslims of India are the most inbreed and genetically deformed race of people on earth due to the sub caste and racism within Islam.
In Allahbad, the studies have shown an average Indian muslim male has 32% infant and a 73% rate of deformed offspring. So we are talking about 3-5 million per year !! deformed or inbred mutant offspring just in indians Muslims alone.
So back to the point - once a bulk of weak quisling Indians converted to Islam, the jizya or tax input reduced. The Indian Muslims then corrupted Islam further with a caste system and massive inbreeding. Now indian Muslims are the most inbred and biggest social burden on india.
There is a logical case that the Indian Hindu should now sterilize all indian Muslims, or have forced 'outbreeding'. But No one wants to bred with Indians, ESP indian Muslims.

Btw in Saudi, if an Arab has any contact of any physical proximity (say in the same room or at a shop) with an Indian - then under Arab Islamic rules, the Arab has to wash & cleanse themselves. No Arab would ever consider an Indian Muslim as a real muslim. No way any Indian Muslim can go to an Arab Allah heaven.
Net: no one in islam ever wanted Indians to join. They were meant to be slaves paying jizya.

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