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MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#41020 Jul 11, 2013
Ra Madam wrote:
Ramadan's started I bet those pesky Jews, make some devout Muslims kill each other right Muq ?
Jews would not mind that, neither could Christians, Hindus or people of other faiths would mind that.

Zionist Jews certainly would be happiest than the rest, and ready to extend any "little help" that any one needs.
pimuncherbusterL OL

Australia

#41021 Jul 11, 2013
Oh Bogan trash, more good news for you to cry over.....LLOL,LLOL,LLOL

THE ROVING EYE
The China-US 'Brotherhood'

By Pepe Escobar

The fifth round of the US-China Strategic and Economic Dialogue began this Thursday in Washington. This China-US "Brotherhood" does involve a lot of talk - with no perceptible action. US Think Tankland is trying to convey the impression that Beijing is now in a more fragile position relative to Washington compared with the post-financial crisis environment in 2009. Nonsense.

It's as if the ongoing NSA (global) scandal never happened; Edward Snowden exposed how the US government has turned against its own citizens even while it keeps spying on virtually the whole planet. Then there's the meme of the Chinese economy

being "in trouble", when in fact Beijing is launching a long-reaching, complex strategy to calibrate the effects of a relative economic slowdown.

Finally, the supposed "aggressive Chinese behavior" in terms of Asian security is just spin. Beijing is building up its navy, of course - yet at the same time both China and selected members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations are fine-tuning their tactics ahead of multilateral talks about a code of conduct for any serious problems in the South China Sea. Beijing would be foolish to go for diplomacy of the gunboat variety - which would certainly attract a US countercoup.

Bogged down, all over
Beijing has clearly interpreted the North Atlantic Treaty Organization's "liberation" of Libya - now reverted into failed state status; US support for the destruction of Syria; and the "pivoting" to Asia as all interlinked, targeting China's ascension and devised to rattle the complex Chinese strategy of an Eurasian energy corridor.

Yet it does not seem to be working. As Asia Times Online reported, the Iran-Pakistan (IP) pipeline may well end up as IPC, "C" being an extension to Xinjiang in western China. Beijing also knows very well how the proposed Iran-Iraq-Syria gas pipeline has been a key reason for the emphatic attack on Syria orchestrated by actors such as Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Turkey. Beijing calculates that if Bashar al-Assad stays and the US$10 billion pipeline ever gets completed (certainly with Chinese and Russian financial help) the top client may end up being Beijing itself, and not Western Europe.

Considering its strategic relationship with Islamabad, Beijing is also very much aware of any US moves to stir up trouble in geo-strategically crucial Balochistan in Pakistan - with a possible overspill to neighboring Sistan-Balochistan province in Iran. In parallel, Beijing interprets US bluster and intransigence about Iran's nuclear program as a cover story to upset its solid energy security partnership with Tehran.

Regarding Afghanistan, the corridors at the Zhongnanhai in Beijing must be echoing with laughter as Washington backtracks no less than 16 years, to the second Bill Clinton administration - an eternity in politics - to talk to the Taliban in Doha essentially about one of the oldest Pipelinestan gambits. "We want a pipeline" (the Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakis tan-India, TAPI), says Washington. "We want our cut", the Taliban reply. This is politics as Groundhog Day.

The problem is Washington has absolutely nothing to offer the Taliban. The Taliban, on the other hand, will keep their summer offensive schedule, knowing full well they will be free to do whatever they please after President Hamid Karzai slides into oblivion. As for the Washington notion that Islamabad will be able to keep the Afghan Taliban in check, even the goats in the Hindu Kush are laughing about it.

It's all about Syria
Syria, though, remains the key story - as the pivot of a spreading cancer, a Sunni/Shi'ite sectarian war largely encouraged by the House of Saud and other Gulf Cooperation Council actors, and bought hook, line and sinker by the Obama administration.
pimuncherbusterL OL

Australia

#41022 Jul 11, 2013
It took a courageous diplomat to leak it, plus translations from Russian to Arabic and then English, for the world to have an idea of what politicians actually discuss in those largely vacuous, photo-opportunity summits. What Russian President Vladimir Putin told Obama, Britain's David Cameron and French President Francois Hollande face-to-face at the recent Group of Eight summit in Northern Ireland is nothing less than gripping. Examples:

Putin addressing the table: "You want President Bashar al-Assad to step down? Look at the leaders you've made in the Middle East in the course of what you have dubbed the 'Arab Spring'."

Putin addressing Obama, Cameron and Hollande: "You want Russia to abandon Assad and his regime and go along with an opposition whose leaders don't know anything except issuing fatwas declaring people heretics, and whose members - who come from a bunch of different countries and have multiple orientations - don't know anything except how to slaughter people and eat human flesh."

Putin addressing Obama directly: "Your country sent its army to Afghanistan in the year 2001 on the excuse that you are fighting the Taliban and the al-Qaeda organization and other fundamentalist terrorists whom your government accused of carrying out the 11 September attacks on New York and Washington. And here you are today making an alliance with them in Syria. And you and your allies are declaring your desire to send them weapons. And here you have Qatar in which you [the US] have your biggest base in the region and in the territory of that country the Taliban are opening a representative office."

The best part is that German Chancellor Angela Merkel then corroborated Putin's every word. And Chinese President Xi Jinping certainly would have done the same.

Keep weaving that net, brother
Even if the Obama administration's bright idea of selecting the "good" rebels to be presented with light weapons would work (and it won't; in a war theatre the real hardcore fighting forces - as in the Jabhat al-Nusra-style gangs - end up laying their hands on the best weapons), there's no evidence that Bashar al-Assad's forces will fold.

On the contrary. There will be a push to reconquer all of Aleppo - already in progress, as well as a push southward to Daraa to secure the border with Jordan; petro-monarchy-fueled weapons to "rebels" in southern Syria go through Jordan. Rumors of "overextension" are greatly exaggerated; this can be accomplished in stages.

Russia, meanwhile, will keep playing a very clever game; ensuring essential weapons to the Syrian government while ready to deliver even more lethal stuff in case Washington decides to step up its weaponizing.

And then there's the whole Muslim Brotherhood-wide mess. Al-Akhbar has deliciously detailed how the House of Saud virtually destroyed Qatar in Egypt - as well as in Syria. It's never enough to remember that the House of Saud supports backward Salafi parties in Egypt and weaponizes backward Salafi fighters in Syria.

In Egypt, meet the new boss - Saudis and Emiratis - same as the old boss - Qataris. Before he recently decided to self-depose, Emir al-Thani spent as much as $17 billion on assorted Arab Springers, most of it for Morsi in Egypt. Now the House of Saud has already offered $5 billion, and the Emirates $3 billion. None of them have obviously been reading on this site the views of Spengler - who has proved that Egypt, much to the regret of their wonderful people, will remain a banana republic - without the bananas (see Islam's civil war moves to Egypt , Asia Times Online, July 8, 2013.)

The bottom line: Beijing is betting it will win in Pakistan, in Iran, in Syria (it's already winning in Iraq), in Pipelineistan, not to mention in the South China Sea, while Washington will be entangled in its own Brotherhood net. "Fragile"? You wish.

Pepe Escobar is the author of Globalistan:

He may be reached at pepeasia@yahoo.com.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#41023 Jul 11, 2013
NT wrote:
A bit more than some ; Just think, If it wasn't for the Jews Islam would never needed to exist and I find it interesting that the two major religions of our time were borne of The Middle East and look where that got us all MUQ !
Ans.

It is like saying, if it was not for Adam, there would be "No Humans on earth"!!

The religion of God, the religion of Islam is what was the religion of All prophets of God, irrespective of the regions.

It is not correct to say that Islam came only because of Jews.

As for your second Remarks, just spread the circle a little wider, All Major religions of the world, came from Asia!!

Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity and islam , they all arose from Asia!!

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#41024 Jul 11, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
It is like saying, if it was not for Adam, there would be "No Humans on earth"!!
The religion of God, the religion of Islam is what was the religion of All prophets of God, irrespective of the regions.
It is not correct to say that Islam came only because of Jews.
As for your second Remarks, just spread the circle a little wider, All Major religions of the world, came from Asia!!
Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity and islam , they all arose from Asia!!
Islam is a blatant plagiarism of both Jewish and Christian scriptures . It was used to cover its violent ideology and God will call its followers to account on the last day. Mug will be more accountable than most because he has promoted his filthy pedophile and his lies to who knows how many on this and other forums

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#41025 Jul 11, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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I do not know about him, he is dead and gone, Allah knows best about what he was.
Yes that is a big question seeing he profited personally greatly financially from money destined towards the suffering peoples who looked to him for salvation.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#41026 Jul 11, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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No, not all the wrongs, but some, yes.
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MUQ read carefully am educating you.
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MUQ: read carefully

Six Jewish Companies Control 96% of the World’s Media.
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Few more years and the JEWs will be in control of 99% of the world's media.
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MUQ with his 1 degree, I am sure you heard the saying the Pen is mightier than the sword.
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By Dan Ben-Canaan.
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Most Chinese have never met a Jewish person, nor do they know what Judaism or being Jewish is all about.
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Nevertheless, misguided beliefs that all Jews are very good in business, that Jewish money gives the Jews world power, and that Jews posses high intellect and genius, are being presented in the Chinese academic, social and political spheres. Unfortunately, these misleading notions have penetrated all levels of Chinese society.
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There are gaps between the rich and the poor in Jewish communities, much the same as in any Chinese community.
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Never the less, most Chinese people believe that Jews own the most of the world’s riches.
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In the past 30 years, economy, business and making money have been key concepts in China, and many people have been seeking guides for instant success.
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Many Chinese look for sources that may reveal the secrets of “Jewish wisdom”.
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Bookstores all across China are stacks with books like The Eight Most Valuable Business Secrets of the Jewish Business, The Legend of Jewish Wealth, Jewish People and Business: The Bible of How to Live Their Lives, Jewish Entrepreneurial Experience and Business Wisdom, and Making Money the Jewish Way, are among the most popular ones.Furthermore, these books are available in all of China’s libraries, including those in the universities.
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Jews are well-known for wealth and wisdom because they control 78 percent of its wealth even though their number covers only 2.2 percent of the whole US population. In addition, the ‘Golden Laws’ in business were also put forward by Jews.
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“The Muslims are large in number, but pose no intellectual threat.
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The Jews are smart, but few in number.
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The Chinese are lazy, dirty but smart, making major leaps in business, and have huge numbers.
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”The knowledge that Jews control world money and business is a dangerous one that has led to terrible things in the past, and that makes its Chinese proponents seem ignorant at best.
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In fact, most Jewish people place higher value on education than business!
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MUQ you must be feeling sick by now to be reading all the facts about Israel.
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Despite only being 0.19% of the world's population, Jews control 99% of the world's money.(See: Rothschild, Warburg, etc.) The only nation's whose money is not issued by a Rothschilds bank are Iran, Iraq, and North Korea. Noticing anything there?
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In 2013, The Jews are well-known for wealth and wisdom because they control 78 percent of the world's wealth.
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MUQ the Jews even control Saudi, Pakistan, India and also controls China, Rothschilds Issues all the money for Saudi, all the Middle Eastern countries, India, Pakistan and China with it's money.
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Saudi and all the Middle Eastern Countries except for Iran banks all their money in Jewish banks, that are located in the USA and Europe.
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Almost all banking Institutes are owned by the Jews.
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MUQ one day a Jew will tell you suck his dick and you will for they will have you under their control.
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MUQ not to far in the future >>> Israel will rule the Middle East.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#41027 Jul 11, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
It is like saying, if it was not for Adam, there would be "No Humans on earth"!!
The religion of God, the religion of Islam is what was the religion of All prophets of God, irrespective of the regions.
It is not correct to say that Islam came only because of Jews.
As for your second Remarks, just spread the circle a little wider, All Major religions of the world, came from Asia!!
Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity and islam , they all arose from Asia!!
Not good enough,have another think .

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#41028 Jul 11, 2013
Ra Madam wrote:
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Those flames are Jewish.
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Blind Freddy can see that.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#41029 Jul 11, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
A bit more than some ; Just think, If it wasn't for the Jews Islam would never needed to exist and I find it interesting that the two major religions of our time were borne of The Middle East and look where that got us all MUQ !
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All 3 of the of the major religions originated from the Middle East.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#41030 Jul 11, 2013
Baron44 wrote:
<quoted text>
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All 3 of the of the major religions originated from the Middle East.
All from the same histories .
pimuncherbusterL OL

Australia

#41031 Jul 11, 2013
Baron44 wrote:
<quoted text>
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MUQ read carefully am educating you.
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MUQ: read carefully
Six Jewish Companies Control 96% of the World’s Media.
-
Few more years and the JEWs will be in control of 99% of the world's media.
-
MUQ with his 1 degree, I am sure you heard the saying the Pen is mightier than the sword.
-
By Dan Ben-Canaan.
-
Most Chinese have never met a Jewish person, nor do they know what Judaism or being Jewish is all about.
-
Nevertheless, misguided beliefs that all Jews are very good in business, that Jewish money gives the Jews world power, and that Jews posses high intellect and genius, are being presented in the Chinese academic, social and political spheres. Unfortunately, these misleading notions have penetrated all levels of Chinese society.
-
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There are gaps between the rich and the poor in Jewish communities, much the same as in any Chinese community.
-
Never the less, most Chinese people believe that Jews own the most of the world’s riches.
-
In the past 30 years, economy, business and making money have been key concepts in China, and many people have been seeking guides for instant success.
-
Many Chinese look for sources that may reveal the secrets of “Jewish wisdom”.
-
Bookstores all across China are stacks with books like The Eight Most Valuable Business Secrets of the Jewish Business, The Legend of Jewish Wealth, Jewish People and Business: The Bible of How to Live Their Lives, Jewish Entrepreneurial Experience and Business Wisdom, and Making Money the Jewish Way, are among the most popular ones.Furthermore, these books are available in all of China’s libraries, including those in the universities.
-
Jews are well-known for wealth and wisdom because they control 78 percent of its wealth even though their number covers only 2.2 percent of the whole US population. In addition, the ‘Golden Laws’ in business were also put forward by Jews.
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Blah, Blah, Blah
But your mother was servicing clients of Chinese origin in her Manila brothel, she was sucking diks's of Arabs, Chinese, Indians and Pakistanis and you were brought up on their charity, now you are Barking profanities against the very hands err Diks that fed you, LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, doesn't say much about your Saudi blood lines, I think calling you a Dog has to be changed because at least dogs are loyal to the masters who feed them, so from now on we shall refer to you as a sow, LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, like your mother a sow gets fuked by pigs, LLO,LLLOL,LLOL,LLOL, send your kids to school or they will turn out as an illiterate bastard like yourself, you uneducated piece of pig-turd turd.........LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,

Opps I am supposed to keep away from filth like you during this sacred month, but what can one do when there is filth all around some of it is bound to rub off, LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,LLOL
mutley

Brisbane, Australia

#41032 Jul 11, 2013
yeah Lowry could afford to give away some money.. all jews only have baby boys it seems.. lowry and sons are bleeding aust dry. I never shop at westfield.. to hard to get a park and way to crowded and way to over priced.. I don't think Murdoch is a jew though.. see how chinese shops always get the money first before handing over goods ????the word ... refund.... or money back... does not exist to them.chinese just have sons also.
Origins

Australia

#41033 Jul 11, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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All from the same histories .
All from egypt actually - Akhenaten invented the concept of a 'pre universal' abstracted monotheistic god.
Abraham/the Jews then took the idea, added in some Canaanite rituals, humanised the god figure and the concept of a portable idol (the ark of the covenant) and then he smashed the fixed
idols.
Judaism, Christianity are just variation.
Buddhism is an anti religion.
Hindu is just paganism.
Islam... Doesn't even rate. Exposed as lies, the lineage to Abraham is completely false, the Quran is a crude heretical apostasy, and their Allah,,, is of a moon god cult that only existed from 180 as a god and with a fixed object idol.
So in many ways, islam is a poor reversion back almost 2,400 years to fixed idol, object worship and paganism.
man of old earth

New Delhi, India

#41034 Jul 11, 2013
hinduism is derived from vedic ideas of the samkhya (count, compute) and yoga,( join, chains of logic and information)( not just slow exercises), mimansha- the enquiry philosophy, and the Nayaya philosophy of akshapeda gautama, that focused on the logics of logics itself, etc. These are the main orhodox hindu philosophy.

Common to all these branches of hinduism, are the principles of

1) Ahimsa- non violence, and vedic pluralism(allow people of all ideas to be and express their mind and try convince others thru debate, except ideas that advocate violent overthrow of other cultures/ ideas like monocultures like islam etc.)

2) Dharma- laws of society thought out by wise men so society and individuals are peaceful, progressive and happy for long. Dharma is set of laws of society that helps people discern right from wrong, and a persons karma (action / behavior shud be according to these laws).

3) Veda- reveal truths of nature ie knowledge by sense and focused thought, then recording the conclusion for others to build upon. Thus ved is a way to aquire all knowledge.

If such hinduism is paganism, paganism must be a very good thing.
man of old earth

New Delhi, India

#41035 Jul 11, 2013
google with "wiki hindu philosophy" if anyone wants to know more about real hindu philosophy rather than just "hindu is paganism".
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#41036 Jul 12, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes that is a big question seeing he profited personally greatly financially from money destined towards the suffering peoples who looked to him for salvation.
He was a political leader, and you know what politicians are these days.

But he was no authority on Islam and has no relevance in our discussions.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#41037 Jul 12, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Not good enough,have another think .
It was as best as I could based on my limited knowledge.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#41038 Jul 12, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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Islam is a blatant plagiarism of both Jewish and Christian scriptures . It was used to cover its violent ideology and God will call its followers to account on the last day. Mug will be more accountable than most because he has promoted his filthy pedophile and his lies to who knows how many on this and other forums
Thank you Ma'am for your honey dipping words. May Allah reward you in the same coin on last day.

Ameen.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#41039 Jul 12, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Thank you Ma'am for your honey dipping words. May Allah reward you in the same coin on last day.
Ameen.
Don't kid yourself there is no allah only a false moon god, and the rantings of a lunatic prophet. You have stated that you don't post to me and yet here you are doing just that. This is not a good indication of your truthfulness but no surprises here.

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