Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46759 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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man of old earth

Delhi, India

#41098 Jul 14, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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These are small tricks which Service Providers play on customers!!
How they changed the name of country is strange!!
Oh, I thought someone else was posting vitriol with your id trying to make you look bad!

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#41099 Jul 14, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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I am doing the "same" as you do for Islam and Muslims, so why should you complain of all people!!
Do you mean to say that there should be no "counter attack" and we accept every thing coming from you as 'absolute truth"?
Which MUQ are you ?
Any chance of getting a female version just to change the tempo ?

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#41100 Jul 14, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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You are a liar. I provide evidence related to the forum, you on the other hand try to counter attack by providing information that is not related to the forum.There is no comparison I am effective and you are impotent.
How would Marvin,the robot in "Hitchhikers Guide to the galaxy" reply to that last line you wrote ?
Islam ranks well down

Australia

#41101 Jul 14, 2013
Wobble headhunter LLOL wrote:
'mumbo mumbo llol etc
World’s Muslim population 1.6billion ( 2012) etc.
There are about 1.6 billion Muslims, or 23% of the world’s population 2nd to Christianity etc.
more Muslims live in India and Pakistan (344 million combined) than in the entire Middle East-North Africa region (317 million).
However, the Middle East-North Africa region has the highest concentration Muslims etc.
Blah blah 2 year old stale MUQ like mumbo
MUQ We know you have your cut & pastes already pre-prepared but how about sticking to the topic or having something of your own to say?
Sure there may be 1.5 billion Muslims. How about Shia v Sunni seeing they don't even believe in the same god or script ? That would be more relevant given the Islamic civil war where even in Pakistan the Sunni have called for the Shia to be declared ".unbelievers".
And as far as Africa or Indonesia or Malaysia being muslim ? Have you been there ? Do you understand that every Indonesian routinely eats pork and the girls wear nail polish and short skirts on friday, they worship stone statutes and monkey gods inside their mosques, kid you not. Go to say Lombok or Ambon and you see at a glance that no Indonesian would even know what a Quran is. Allah to them is a Asian nature god that is one of many. Same in Africa - the idols to Allah are lined up with all the others including Mary, Jesus and now with the Chinese they have budda idols. Fact is almost 1.5 billion of the 1.6 billion Muslims are illerate, ignorant, and right at the bottom of human civilization. Like in India, the Indian Muslims are the most uneducated, inbred and ignorant burden on India of all. 150 million live 'like cattle'(Jinnah describing Indian Muslims esp the ones in kashmir).
A better measure is that 4 Arab Muslims, 6 Persian Muslims, 11 African Muslims, 22 Asian Muslims and 31 Indian/Pak Muslims equal one Christian in knowledge, power & intellect.
I might be overestimating the Indian/Pak because when the british ran India they had one christian in control of about 890 Indians, but being generous...
That puts Islam at about 25 million of
'equivalency' to christianity and the west.
that's about how strong Islam feels globally -
All of islam combined is say equal to a Poland or Canada - very much second tier.
I would think christianity, buddism, then atheism, then Judaism, would be the top 4 belief systems of the world in power & control.
Foo

Brisbane, Australia

#41102 Jul 14, 2013
After almost 2000 pages , it should be apparent to all , that muslims are a minority in Australia , and therefore do not have much influence. I would expect that the muslims numbers will fall in the coming years, so the discussion is not relevant .

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#41103 Jul 14, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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I am ALWAYS correct..... you usually lie.....? What is the name of this Syndrome?
I knew I'd get you to respond!!!!!!!!! LMAO
Ziggy

Perth, Australia

#41104 Jul 14, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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These are small tricks which Service Providers play on customers!!
How they changed the name of country is strange!!
I think it must be those pesky Jews playing tricks on you MUQ, if they can fake the holocaust , fake 911 they can do anything ..Right Muq

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#41105 Jul 14, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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How would Marvin,the robot in "Hitchhikers Guide to the galaxy" reply to that last line you wrote ?
You tell me as I haven't read what you are referring to. I was just having a dig at Mug with tongue in cheek
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#41106 Jul 14, 2013
Foo wrote:
After almost 2000 pages , it should be apparent to all , that muslims are a minority in Australia , and therefore do not have much influence. I would expect that the muslims numbers will fall in the coming years, so the discussion is not relevant .
But the "fear" of Islam and Muslim is there on the face of every one, can't you sense it?
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#41107 Jul 14, 2013

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For there remains Russia and China to be dealt with. Touchy subjects indeed. Though total madness to consider, war with either is possible but in my estimation not probable. In any case, it is a mistake to lump the two great nations together or even to attempt to juxtapose the two. Russia is Russia; China is China. Russia is a much more immediate problem for U.S. aims than is China. As the astute student of international affairs and Presidential candidate Mitt Romney said in the third presidential debate “Russia is America’s greatest enemy.”

Here I have zeroed in on the Russian hurdle, wondering if the USA even has a legitimate Russian policy. In the mind of the mad planners, Russia is more than just a geopolitical problem. More than New World Order. The answer to the riddle to many like Romney is Russia. America rejects anything that can strengthen Russia. America fears Russia. America fears the revival of the Russian empire. The USA might prefer to bypass unbypassable Russia. But it cannot. Remember the old post-World War II quip that “the real role of NATO is to keep the Russians out (of Europe), the Americans in and the Germans down”? Still valid today.

Ideologically Europe might agree with America even though it makes no economic sense because Europe’s real, long-term interests lie in Russia. It depends on its neighbor Russia. Russia is more European than America’s Neocons even imagine. Even Adolf Hitler knew that. Especially today, Europe depends on the natural gas of which Russia has the world’s greatest reserves.

Geopolitically, Russia was also the reason for America’s theft of the province of Kosovo from Serbia. It is not for oil. It is not to inch closer to Iran. It is Russia. Though Russia lost many lands after 1989, it still supported its brothers in Serbia, a nation which refused to embrace capitalism. America’s military establishment and their Neocon pals accused Serbia of genocide. But Serbs were no more criminal than Croats and Bosnians and Albanians … and Americans.

“pshhhhh”

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#41108 Jul 14, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>But the "fear" of Islam and Muslim is there on the face of every one, can't you sense it?
What a load of shitt Australians dont fear muslims or islam majority have a seething rage for the sickos
Ziggy

Albert Park, Australia

#41109 Jul 14, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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And if some Christian children are also killed in the cross fire, that would be a bonus.
How inhuman some people become , I fail to understand. Their is no depth to their hatred.
What I hate them just like you hate the Jewish people, I am allowed to hate just like you. I'm following your example.
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#41110 Jul 14, 2013
who="kristy"]
What is the “middle?” The progressives have moved the bar so far to the left, that the old middle is now considered the “extreme right.” There are no more “blue dog” democrats. The progressives just keep pushing their agendas (under the radar) to extremes and telling us they are in the moderate position. For example, they are pushing their transgender positions.

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No, who you call the progressives do more of radical Neo-con policies that even the Neo-conservatives would not go to that extreme, in such as, the extension of Patriot Act started by Bush, the expansion of Prism programs to the too far degree, the acting on too many drones without substantial evidences, the breaking of International boundaries just like Bush did in Iraq war with no consideration to other jurisdictions, the hacking on the world making world backlashing to make US image going down on world stage and unlikeable just like that of Bush time, the extensive violation of civil liberty and freedom rights more than Bush had done in the snooping and spying on US people.

Never since history of any time, the Homeland security Department has grown to, like a big Empire with having huge areas of land, budgets and ammunition weapons, just to target the US people mostly.

Simultaneously, the US police is becoming militarized, like having more military-type trucks, equipment and increased-ammunition to nail on the general public inside US, with unknown agenda looking like some secret police with no court orders or warrants to SEARCH THE PEOPLE, while a big number of untold and unknown victims have been evidently oppressed and suppressed.

There is no question US is the biggest big brother Police State right now on earth,as even in China, the Chinese would clash with police there and capture policemen while the Chinese police return with no firing power, in such confrontations.
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO COUNTRY LIKE THIS AS USA, ANYWHERE ON THE PLANET, obviously not Iran, Cuba, Russia, North Korea, Africa, Or China.

Many people have suffered beyond this, including in lacking employment, while the rest don't care or don't know.

Obama is NO PROGRESSIVE IN SO DOING, but making the suppression of society in the oppressing crave so shown, as the most extreme fascist NAZI-LIKE hypocrite by carrying over more than the NEO-CON in the neo-radicalism of extremist program activities as such SINCE HISTORY OF ANY TIME, even the German NAZI AND RUSSIA'S STALIN COULD NOT MATCH OBAMA'S doing IN THE OLD DAYS.
As a result of all these doing, USA violates the world regulations and rules more than Bush days as being lawless, is going downhill and decaying in most area and everything right now, including its economy.
MUQ good point

New Farm, Australia

#41111 Jul 15, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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But the "fear" of Islam and Muslim is there on the face of every one, can't you sense it?
MUQ, well done.
First relevant comment to the topic for months. Must be Ramadan (which as you know was a jewish fasting rite to clean out intestinal worms, muhhammad copied it that from the book of T'ubah and made it a month as Muslims have so much more crap in them).
Anyway yes, you are correct, you sense fear. Like a toothless old dog senses people are afraid of dogs..
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"The Fear of Islam' is generated by the west.
The pretext of islamic extremism and jihad allows the west to exert control on it's own people as well as on Islam.
Islam is an easily manipulated, but ultimately powerless 'external enemy' proxy.
Muslims are willing actors in this charade, a
billion of more, heavily indoctrinated, ignorant idol and object worshippers, that corrode our values & debase our standard of living. Muslims are even forcibly sprinkled amongst us to polarize
opinion and create domestic tensions.
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Some facts :
• Since the 11th century crusades, Islam has
been used a confected enemy & unifying threat.
• Salafi (fundamental or recidivist islam) and it's
later variant Wahabism and ideological jihad are copies of religious/ideological and recidivist
movements common in the west in the 16th
~17th century. The west has always sponsored Islamic fanatisism. Wahabbi was designed to
'split' Islam and PREVENT islamic reformation, nutured by Russian, French & Austrian powers to destabilize the otterman empire. Yes, it's hard to
convince today's salafi or wahhabi that their beliefs are more current & synthetic than aimish revivalists or puritans but facts are that
• Saudi is a creation of the west - jack philbly king abdulallah, manipulating a corrupt nobody
(ibn Saud) so a 'destablising' Wahhabi state that was rich, foreign controlled, and always at war
with it's Islamic neighbors... As we see.
• Pakistan.'a creation of the west' founded with israel as colonies to destabilize the region.
• Indonesia and malaysia, products of the west.
In Indonesia the west got nationalist muslims to
murder 3 million socialist Muslims.
• Bin Laden, a Saudi wahabbist and Al Qaida are
all inventions funded by the west.
•The entire autocracy of every Islamic nation, is only there at the behest or whim of the west.
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For over 1,000 years, Muslims have been a convienent proxy enemy. Men with beards fighting a holy war with sticks & stones, v our
satellites & missile drones. Every Muslim, man, woman, child, emeshed in our canopy of electronic surveillance. Muslims also offer diversity and graduation of fear. We have' bad ones ' far away for weapon trials or to stimulate
Wars & gdp when needed. Or 'good' ones we can arm to kill the 'bad' ones. We can have
flavours like say a local radical Inman mouthing
his (western funded) cliches, or moderate 'sleeper' Sunnis waiting for the jihadist kill signal.
All the 'required product' for an enemy is there.
We tell Muslims the Quran is eternal & immutable, we then nuture recidivism & we have
prevented Islamic reformation for > 400 years!!
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The TRUE FEAR WE HAVE of Muslims is they are an expensive and out of date placebo. Useful in European unity/crusades, ww1, ww2, oil wars, but not needed anymore.

Hence the recent emphasis on Islamic retro viruses that destroy moderate islam. These have been successful in Africa and now the M.E. All of moderate Islam's gains in the last 130 years, lost in 8 years due to this.
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MUQ - what people are doing is checking your responses confirm to the role expected of you.
When we whistle, you drool or cut & paste your islamic slobber on cue.
Then we can continue to 'fear' Islam as the toothless old dog we know and feed.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#41113 Jul 15, 2013
Ziggy wrote:
<quoted text> I think it must be those pesky Jews playing tricks on you MUQ, if they can fake the holocaust , fake 911 they can do anything ..Right Muq
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MUQ is not aware of the real facts as yet.
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The Jews are running Saudi and all of the other Middle Eastern countries.
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The only one that is not controlled by the Jews is Iran, and that is not to far off before the Jews have Iran under control.
piguncherbusterL OL

East Maitland, Australia

#41114 Jul 15, 2013
Baron44 wrote:
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MUQ is not aware of the real facts as yet.
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The Jews are running Saudi and all of the other Middle Eastern countries.
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The only one that is not controlled by the Jews is Iran, and that is not to far off before the Jews have Iran under control.
You think we take one word from you seriously???? little saudi Barking piggy....LLOL,LLOL,
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#41116 Jul 15, 2013
Ziggy wrote:
<quoted text> I think it must be those pesky Jews playing tricks on you MUQ, if they can fake the holocaust , fake 911 they can do anything ..Right Muq
I do not know what they are capable of, but they have surely "pull the wool over eyes of 2.5 Billion Christians".

They stand in line ready to do anything to please their "little masters"!!

most people will not believe it , but it is true, 2.5 Billion Christians acting like "house pets" by these 6 Million Jews.
man of old earth

Delhi, India

#41117 Jul 15, 2013
Baron44 wrote:
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MUQ is not aware of the real facts as yet.
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The Jews are running Saudi and all of the other Middle Eastern countries.
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The only one that is not controlled by the Jews is Iran, and that is not to far off before the Jews have Iran under control.
Lol, very near to how I see thing.

But I prefer the word imperialists to jews, as non jews are in it too.

The islamist are very much the tool for them in the muddle east, like their support for muslim brotherhood morsi in egypt wiith huge aid voa their proxy the saudi, to try quell the uprising of the free thinkers just beginning to raise their heads above the enslavement of islam. And dronning Pakistan while funding their army at the same time, AND LETTING SAUDIS FUND THE JuD LeT terror camps etc (shusss).

Why the hell do the americans not use their own huge resources of oil, and instead buy oil from house of saud, who they know have been busy funding islamists everywhere. Then they inturn fund and arm their favourite govts in Middle east to keep the evil boogie man the hardliners away, lol who would disagree the islamist and taliban are bad now? Thus they keep their fav govts in ME and their cheap oil contracts too. Which they resell to imerging countries for a nice margin. And end up heroes to all secular people everywhere in west or east even within middle east.

And the overly stressed 'western ideas of freedom' in every media from cnn bbc to al jazeera, the idiot muslims then rejecting universally good sound ideas cause they are 'western' and thus evil, non islamic (that one is true), so to be rejected without thought. All universally good things are now western and so not for the muslims, anything western is so evil and haram to them.

Guess a lot of people in egypt (and iran) are not buying it anymore.
man of old earth

Delhi, India

#41118 Jul 15, 2013
There is a ch!nk in the imperialist machine, a very dispuptive narrow little opening.

Lets all drive a hard wedge thru it, heh heh, for fun, for universal brotherhood and world peace...
man of old earth

Delhi, India

#41119 Jul 15, 2013
Edward Snowden's leaks are most telling here outing the modus operandi of the imperialists, using one faction against another, for their own gain. Clever indeed, but SO NOT WISE, as they lacked fore sight, had short term profit in mind, not even thinking that own children's children would have to pay.

Someone always has to pay.

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