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Danny

Melbourne, Australia

#40978 Jul 8, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...
Remembering Abu Jihad And Why, Really, The Israelis Killed Him
By Alan Hart
The short story as now told by Yediot Ahronot confirms the long and detailed account as set down in the 1994 edition of my book Arafat (which was an updated version of the 1984 first edition
December 1987 saw the start of the first intifada or Palestinian uprising in the occupied West Bank and Gaza. As it gathered momentum it captured and held the Western media’s attention, demonstrating once again that it was only when Palestinians resorted to violence, in this case stone-throwing, that their cry for a measure of justice was heard.
As part of its global propaganda effort to have the world believe that Arafat in faraway Tunis was an irrelevance, Zionism asserted that the uprising in the Occupied Territories had nothing to do with Arafat and his PLO, and that he was merely jumping onto the intifada bandwagon - to give his “discredited” organisation the appearance of life after death.(Two years earlier Israeli jets had gone all the way to Tunis to destroy Arafat’s headquarters and blow him to pieces! By chance, apparently, Arafat was not at his desk when the bombs fell.
The Israelis then were desperate to kill him because President Reagan’s new Secretary of State, George Shultz, had been trying, Vance-like, to involve the PLO in the peace process; and Britain’s Prime Minister, Margaret Thatcher, was about to make history by inviting two senior PLO executives to London for official talks. For their own propaganda purposes Israeli and other gut-Zionists proclaimed that Arafat was irrelevant but their actions demonstrated that they knew he was not.)
The explosion of Palestinian anger which became the first uprising against Israeli occupation was spontaneous, but Arafat and his leadership colleagues had anticipated it and made plans to sustain it.
Even as he was sailing away from Beirut for Tunis in August of 1982, Arafat was thinking about how to play the “internal (Occupied Territories) card”, to prevent the PLO being cancelled as a factor in the Middle East peace equation.
Are you trying to blame the Jewish people for the troubles in Syria
Are you trying to blame the Jewish people for the troubles in Egypt
Are you trying to blame the Jewish people for the troubles in Afghanistan
Are you trying to blame the Jewish people for the troubles in Lebanon
Are you trying to blame the Jewish people for the troubles in Somalia
Are you trying to blame the Jewish people for the troubles in Iraq
Are you trying to blame the Jewish people for the troubles in Turkey
Are you trying to blame the Jewish people for the troubles in Pakistan
Are you trying to blame the Jewish people for the troubles in Libya

Its Easier to blame some one else for your own short comings, rather that taking responsibility for ones own actions.

I put to you MUQ that the Muslim worlds problems sit fair and square with the Muslim world. Outdated doctrine is incompatible with peace and the modern society.

Educate your people and things will change.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#40979 Jul 8, 2013
Danny wrote:
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Are you trying to blame the Jewish people for the troubles in Syria
Are you trying to blame the Jewish people for the troubles in Egypt
Are you trying to blame the Jewish people for the troubles in Afghanistan
Are you trying to blame the Jewish people for the troubles in Lebanon
Are you trying to blame the Jewish people for the troubles in Somalia
Are you trying to blame the Jewish people for the troubles in Iraq
Are you trying to blame the Jewish people for the troubles in Turkey
Are you trying to blame the Jewish people for the troubles in Pakistan
Are you trying to blame the Jewish people for the troubles in Libya
Its Easier to blame some one else for your own short comings, rather that taking responsibility for ones own actions.
I put to you MUQ that the Muslim worlds problems sit fair and square with the Muslim world. Outdated doctrine is incompatible with peace and the modern society.
Educate your people and things will change.
I blame the Jews for creating the problem in Palestine....and that problem is spreading to all parts of the world.

Solve the root problem and all others will be gone.

Try to solve "baby problems" instead of root problem, neither get solved.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#40980 Jul 8, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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I blame the Jews for creating the problem in Palestine....and that problem is spreading to all parts of the world.
Solve the root problem and all others will be gone.
Try to solve "baby problems" instead of root problem, neither get solved.
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Castrate all Muslim males and spay all Muslims females and the world's will be solved.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#40981 Jul 8, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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I blame the Jews for creating the problem in Palestine....and that problem is spreading to all parts of the world.
Solve the root problem and all others will be gone.
Try to solve "baby problems" instead of root problem, neither get solved.
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Castrate all Muslim males and spay all Muslims females and the world's Problems will be solved.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#40982 Jul 8, 2013
Baron44 wrote:
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Castrate all Muslim males and spay all Muslims females and the world's will be solved.
Islamic tax as MUQ suggests is far better solution.
How about a tax on foreiners paid by their country when their people move here permanently to live off our society .
MUQ John Frum cult

Australia

#40984 Jul 8, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
Again you are bringing the charge and then pronouncing the judgment.
I do not defend here what Muslims are doing. I am defending teachings of Islam.
And Islam is not what Muslims are saying or doing, Islam is what Quran and Prophet tell us.
Period.
Jews and Christians are trying their best to "derail" Islam,
MUQ - whilst you are on Ramadan, check out the John Frum cult of the south sea melanasians. These natives were exposed during to modern global society & Christianity briefly during ww2 conflict. Then left alone.
Afterwards they fetished, pay homage and ritualized their experiences, combining it into a synthetic of what they were exposed to, and their own dark pagan devil gods.
They built airstrips and landing towers in the jungle to bring the 'cargo' or west to them.
They had holy buildings and objects.
They dressed in gi uniforms with wooden rifles and paraded in the jungle to the messages of 'John Frum' their holy prophet.
They had a holy book 'that was eternal'- and a supreme god of the heavens who would 'send down' objects from the sky.
They had a hubal like idol ' lord of the cargo' in a clearing (kaaba) with an anointed human messengers to their god, surrounded by 'companions'. They had many rules, and then it broke up into warring sub sects in Papau, Bouganville, and Vanuatu. They then went into civil and tribal wars about who was 'following' the cult faith most correctly..
No amount of effort could convince these people that their interpretation of events and influences was an apostasy.
And so it is with you.
Even tho you couldn't provide any proof Mecca was inhabited before 150ad,,.
And you can not disprove the Quran is simply a corrupted variant of the book of T'ubah (Jewish ishmaelism)..
Or that Muhammad in fact rescinded his lies & was assassinated by Abu Bakr/Aisha for that,,
Or that Allah was an invented synthetic god created with the Hubal idol imported in 180 ad..
Despite all this .. You cling to your false beliefs.
The Quran written by Uthman and clearly full of lies and mistakes is somehow 'still eternal'..
Your false human idol, murdered by the Bakri for his treason is still a prophet..
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Methinks if you had been born in Vanuatu,, you would out there in the clearing in your uniform paying homage to the holy relics of John Frum and anxiously scanning the sky waiting for his return.
Such is your faith in wishing to believe in evil and falsehood.
Islam falls apart

Australia

#40985 Jul 8, 2013
This Ramadam looks to be a watershed for the liberation of hundreds of millions of Muslims across the middle east.
The MB and intended imposition of sharia in egpyt has met with a massive rejection & the country is on the brink of civil war.
All across Egypt tens of millions, backed by the army, are collaborating to defeat islam.
Soon it will blow back into Qatar & the other fiefdoms and then into Saudi. The wahhabi princes will soon flee with their loot stolen from the people in the name of Allah..
The mosques and cities of islam soon in flames.
The West and the Jews did not cause this.
The internet and smart phones did.
All across the islamic world, the Arab youth can see for themselves how rotten and corrupt Islam
has become.
FB not MB. YouTube more akbar than Allah.
We stand ready with our missiles and drones to help the people of the middle east liberate themselves from the shackles of their heresy.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#40987 Jul 8, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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I blame the Jews for creating the problem in Palestine....and that problem is spreading to all parts of the world.
Solve the root problem and all others will be gone.
Try to solve "baby problems" instead of root problem, neither get solved.
So-called ‘Palestinians’ are newcomers to Palestine. Most are generic Arabs who migrated to British Mandate Palestine from surrounding Arab countries to take advantage of the relative prosperity brought about by the Zionist Movement and the British Mandate.

• Palestine is a geographical area, not a nation. Before the establishment of Israel, members of two national entities – Palestinian Jews and Palestinian Arabs – inhabited Mandate Palestine.

• A Palestinian people was artificially created in the 1960s by the PLO after the Six-Day War to rob Jews of their homeland and historical identity, and to paint them as victimizers and trespassers. The objective is to lay the groundwork for creating another Arab state at the expense of the Jews – whom Arabs consider an alien and illegitimate political entity in the Middle East.

• Over seventy percent of all Jordanians define themselves as Palestinians. That there exists a separate Palestinian people from the Jordanian population is a fabrication designed to force the creation of a second Palestinian state.

DEAL WITH THE TRUTH FOR A CHANGE YOU FILTHY SCUMBAG
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#40988 Jul 8, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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I do not defend here what Muslims are doing. I am defending teachings of Islam.
And Islam is not what Muslims are saying or doing, Islam is what Quran and Prophet tell us.
Period.
Jews and Christians are trying their best to "derail" Islam,
You have to such it up and accept the facts!!
Muslims are doing what Islam inspires them to do!! It's that simple MUQ.!!

You can argue all you want, but this is what is happening in most Muslim countries!!!
If it was good, you would say it's Islam, but now when it's bad, you don't want to blame Islam !!
Your a hippocrite to suggest anything else!!!

And Jews and Christians don't have to derail Islam ,,,,, Islam is doing an excellent job of derailing itself,,, all by itself!!

Grow up and look at the facts MUQ,!!
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#40989 Jul 8, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

Remembering Abu Jihad And Why, Really, The Israelis Killed Him
By Alan Hart
(Contd.)

The following year he ordered a “General Exercise” in and around Nablus.“General Exercise” was the code for a confrontation between the PLO’s supporters and the occupying Israeli army. It was Arafat’s way of testing the feelings and mood of Palestinians throughout the Occupied Territories. The response was exactly what Arafat and Abu Jihad had predicted it would be. The confrontation in Nablus took place, but there was no support for the idea that it should be sustained and extended. A popular uprising was still the stuff of dreams.

Arafat, Abu Jihad and Hani Hassan (Arafat’s chief adviser and trouble-shooter) then conducted a detailed investigation of why the “General Exercise” had failed to inspire even a token demonstration of widespread support for the PLO.“We came to a very dramatic conclusion”, Hani told me.“We discovered that the silent majority of our people in the Occupied Territories had given their hearts if not their minds to the Islamic fundamentalists.”

What explained this enormous shift of popular opinion, a change of heart which suggested, among other things, that Arafat’s moderate PLO was in danger of becoming an irrelevance in the Occupied Territories?
Short answer - despair.

There was first of all, and obviously, the despair born of 20 years of occupation and often-brutal Israeli repression. But in the wake of Israel’s invasion of Lebanon and its siege of Beirut there were, as Hani Hassan put it,“two new factors of despair.”

The first was the realisation that Arafat’s policy of politics and compromise with Israel was getting the Palestinians nowhere.

The second, a bitter lesson for a new generation of Palestinians, was that they were on their own when the crunch came. The proof was the way the Arab regimes had sat on their backsides and watched for weeks as Sharon tried to finish the PLO in Beirut.

Against that backdrop it was inevitable that more and more Palestinians in the Occupied Territories would begin to see Islamic fundamentalism as the only force capable of changing the status quo. But what surprised and shocked Arafat and his leadership colleagues was the number of Palestinians who had moved or who were moving in the direction of the fundamentalists. Hani said:“We discovered that not less than 60 percent of our young people in the Occupied Territories were thinking that Islamic fundamentalism had more to offer than the PLO.”

The violent Islamic fundamentalism (Palestinian style) that Arafat and his leadership colleagues saw coming as the inevitable product of continuing Israeli occupation and the new wave of Palestinian resistance would be institutionalised in 1988, when Hamas was founded in Gaza by Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, a paralysed, wheelchair-bound religious teacher. In Arabic Hamas means zeal. It is also an acronym for the Islamic Resistance Movement.

For Arafat the consequences of Islamic fundamentalists making the running in the Occupied Territories were terrifying.(As they ought to have been to rational Israelis). First there was the obvious danger that the PLO would become an irrelevance for a majority of Palestinians. But that was not the worst-case scenario. If there was a popular uprising, and if the Islamic fundamentalists could claim most of the credit for it, Arafat - even if the PLO did retain some credibility - might not be able to deliver the compromise that he had struggled for six years to sell to his people.
So what at the beginning of 1984 were Arafat and his leadership colleagues to do?

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#40990 Jul 8, 2013
MUQ - do you ever think or write for yourself instead of copy and paste.

I guess you dont otherwise you would no longer be muslim.

free and independent thought is not encouraged in islam is it pal?
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#40992 Jul 8, 2013
The Little Things wrote:
MUQ - do you ever think or write for yourself instead of copy and paste.
I guess you dont otherwise you would no longer be muslim.
free and independent thought is not encouraged in islam is it pal?
I do write answers to the comments which I choose to answer. I do not answer all comments and some written in uncouth language and filled with hate words (for example those of baron Guy and Shielaa the Great) I avoid.

These daily "cut and pastes" (maximum two pages per day) are my "signature" that I am up and alive.

These messages are not without purpose, they go against the grain of "Popular media" of western world, which is in iron grips of Jews and Zionists and has a very noticeable negative bias against Islam and Muslims

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#40993 Jul 9, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Islamic tax as MUQ suggests is far better solution.
How about a tax on foreiners paid by their country when their people move here permanently to live off our society .
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Nah castrate the bastards, we will never be able to collect any taxes from these bastards.
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What make you think they will ever pay.
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Spay the women and Castrate the men in less than 100 years there me no more Islam in the west.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#40994 Jul 9, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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I do write answers to the comments which I choose to answer. I do not answer all comments and some written in uncouth language and filled with hate words (for example those of baron Guy and Shielaa the Great) I avoid.
These daily "cut and pastes" (maximum two pages per day) are my "signature" that I am up and alive.
These messages are not without purpose, they go against the grain of "Popular media" of western world, which is in iron grips of Jews and Zionists and has a very noticeable negative bias against Islam and Muslims
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MUQ is scared of me.
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MUQ knows I ma good.
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MUQ knows I know more about Islam than he does.
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MUQ even Allah knows I am good.
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That is why Allah send down the Angel Jibreel to talk to me and tell me all this killing and murdering crap about Islam was made up by the caliph, Uthman ibn Affan.
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The Qur'an the caliph, Uthman ibn Affan burned was the correct one when Allah explained his love with no hate.
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The caliph, Uthman ibn Affan added all the hate as the Angel Jibreel told me personally.
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MUQ the first Question the Angel Jibreel asked me was can you read and write, for Allah did not want to make the same mistake twice, this time he wanted a person who who could understand Arabic and more languages.
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As the Angel Jibreel explain, Allah's Arabic is not his strongest language.
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He speaks and understand English much better.
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This time there be no Mistakes in what he says.
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MUQ I am good.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#40995 Jul 9, 2013
Serpent wrote:
01. You have to such it up and accept the facts!!
Muslims are doing what Islam inspires them to do!! It's that simple MUQ.!!

02. You can argue all you want, but this is what is happening in most Muslim countries!!!

03. If it was good, you would say it's Islam, but now when it's bad, you don't want to blame Islam !!
Your a hippocrite to suggest anything else!!!

04. And Jews and Christians don't have to derail Islam ,,,,, Islam is doing an excellent job of derailing itself,,, all by itself!!

05. Grow up and look at the facts MUQ,!!
Ans.

01. No you are wrong, if Islam was silent on these problems, then you could have taken actions of Muslims as those of Islam.

When islam has given very clear teachings on these issues, it is not Islam's fault if Muslims do not follow it.

02. What I am saying is right argument. You cannot blame a good car because the person who is driving the car is bad.

03. If people follow Islam properly and rise in the world, certainly it is good of Islam. But if they go on top, rejecting Islam (as most of Western countries have done, they are not following Christianity at all), it would not be good for Islam.

04. Jews and Christians are providing all "possible help" that for derailment, your comments show it plainly.

05. I have grown up and looking at facts, have you also?

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#40996 Jul 9, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
01. No you are wrong, if Islam was silent on these problems, then you could have taken actions of Muslims as those of Islam.
When islam has given very clear teachings on these issues, it is not Islam's fault if Muslims do not follow it.
02. What I am saying is right argument. You cannot blame a good car because the person who is driving the car is bad.
03. If people follow Islam properly and rise in the world, certainly it is good of Islam. But if they go on top, rejecting Islam (as most of Western countries have done, they are not following Christianity at all), it would not be good for Islam.
04. Jews and Christians are providing all "possible help" that for derailment, your comments show it plainly.
05. I have grown up and looking at facts, have you also?
You are still using Christians and Jews to take the blame for every wrong of Muslims.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#40997 Jul 9, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

Remembering Abu Jihad And Why, Really, The Israelis Killed Him
By Alan Hart
(contd.)

They knew they could not force the pace in the Occupied Territories and that a popular uprising would have to be spontaneous, generated from within; but they set about planning and putting into place the support networks and mechanisms that would sustain the explosion of despair - prevent Israeli’s military and other security services putting it down with speed - when it happened.

Soon after it started on 9 December 1987 the day-to-day management, direction and co-ordination of the first intifada was, in fact, taken over, as planned, by Abu Jihad, then Arafat’s deputy and most likely successor as well as commander of the PLO’s scattered and mission-less military forces.

But Arafat’s personal contribution to sustaining the uprising was significant. He had what he described to me as his “secret weapon”. From a British company (Racal-Tacticom in Reading) he had purchased some state-of-the-art, space-age radio equipment - a transmitter and scores of mini-receivers - which enabled him to plug into the Arab communications satellite (AbSat) and talk directly to Palestinian demonstrators on street corners when they were confronting the Israeli army.

Hani Hassan spoke about the impact of Arafat’s spiritual presence on the front lines in the Occupied Territories with great excitement.“You can’t imagine”, he told me.“The confrontations were very tough. Even when they were not being killed or seriously wounded (for throwing stones at Israel’s mighty warriors) our people were taking a lot of punishment.

So naturally there were times when their morale was low. And that’s when Arafat lifted their spirits. Somebody would produce a receiver to link the demonstrators to him in Tunis. The one who spoke directly with him was overcome with emotion and enthusiasm. He would proudly tell the others,‘I’ve just talked to Abu Amar. He says we must continue.’”
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#40998 Jul 9, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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You are still using Christians and Jews to take the blame for every wrong of Muslims.
No, not all the wrongs, but some, yes.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#40999 Jul 9, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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I do write answers to the comments which I choose to answer. I do not answer all comments and some written in uncouth language and filled with hate words (for example those of baron Guy and Shielaa the Great) I avoid.
These daily "cut and pastes" (maximum two pages per day) are my "signature" that I am up and alive.
These messages are not without purpose, they go against the grain of "Popular media" of western world, which is in iron grips of Jews and Zionists and has a very noticeable negative bias against Islam and Muslims
Most people dont read your cut and paste jobs MUQ, I think you would command more credibility if you wrote from the heart.

I know baron and sheila are too much for you to handle and instead of trying to match them in a debate you know you will lose, you now hide from them.

Mate, could it possibly be that the popular media just reports on what happens, and what happens always reflects badly on muslims? I mean I cannot remember one news story or a muslim doing good for another.

I have never heard of a muslim doing good for anyone outside their own insular community. Ie no feeding the homeless or demonstrating for animal rights etc.
Arab reject Islam

Australia

#41000 Jul 9, 2013
Islam falls apart wrote:
This Ramadam looks to be a watershed for the liberation of hundreds of millions of Muslims across the middle east.
The MB and intended imposition of sharia in egpyt has met with a massive rejection & the country is on the brink of civil war.
All across Egypt tens of millions, backed by the army, are collaborating to defeat islam.
Soon it will blow back into Qatar & the other
fiefdoms and then into Saudi. The wahhabi princes will soon flee with their loot stolen from the people in the name of Allah..
The mosques and cities of islam soon in flames.
The West and the Jews did not cause this.
The internet and smart phones did.
All across the islamic world, the Arab youth can see for themselves how rotten and corrupt Islam
has become.
FB not MB. YouTube more akbar than Allah.
We stand ready with our missiles and drones to
help the people of the middle east liberate themselves from the shackles of their heresy.
Yes, the people in Egypt, like the Turks and Iraqis - have overwhelmingly rejected fundamentalist recidivist islam.
The west & the jews have not fanned these
flames.
It is Muslims out fighting on the street, with their smartphone giving them facts and knowledge - v the clerics and fanatics of old islam.
Tens of millions of Arabs yelling their hatred of Allah and Islam and sharia - wanting instead to be liberated from Islam.
Our planes and drones and missiles stand ready to liberate them.
In Saudi and Qatar the nepotistic quisling princes pack up their booty and loot, stolen from the
people 'in the name of allah', they get ready to flee...

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