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Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46763 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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MUQ Islam cargo cult

East Maitland, Australia

#41003 Jul 10, 2013
Yes, you hit the nail on the head.
All of islam is a cargo cult !!!
One of fetishing and envy & coveting the wealth and effort of others.
John Frum like the Wahhabi & Salafi, was a recidivist. He believed in 'kustom' or that the natives needed to return to old fashioned lifestyles, all they had to do was pray to a
heavenly god via an earth idol (Kabba) and goods and cargo would be showered down on
them. The world owed them a living as they were special and everyone else was non believers.
The comparism with Islam is uncanny.
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Here is a comparism of Islam and the cargo cult.
" Islam is the reason for the political, economic, social, moral, and intellectual failures of Muslim
states and societies. But it is, for Muslims, the one thing they dare not blame for those political,
economic, social, moral, and intellectual failures.
What they do dare to blame, and indeed must blame, are the things which have to do with
Infidels. Are the Muslim rulers bad? Then don't blame the fact that Muslims lack a democratic
tradition, because political legitimacy cannot easily be located in the will of the people, in a
Muslim setting.
Are individuals treated badly, and as slaves to Allah, who must submit in all cases to the
collective, and to the need to defend, and never to weaken, Islam?
Then don't blame the fact that Islam is a
collectivist faith, and that individuals are not permitted to exercise any rights -- such as
freedom of speech or freedom of conscience (i.e., freedom to drop Islam)-- whenever those rights get in the way of Islam.
No, it is the Infidels who, directly or indirectly, who are to blame. It is the Infidels who are
responsible for every bad ruler. It is the Americans or Jews who cause all trouble - a charge repeated by MUQ here.
Islam is a Cargo Cult dependent on the Goods and Services of the West. Econmically it survives because of oil money, which is accidental, and is the only reason Arab states, with their inshallah-fatalism became rich (there is no enterprise, no ethic of work as in the West and in East Asia).
The second is the Jizyah of foreign aid from the
Infidels, who have been persuaded that they, and for some unexplained reason not the fabulously
rich Arabs and other Muslims, who must support the poor Muslims --$60 billion to Egypt from America alone,$28 billion to Pakistan in debt relief and $880 billion into Iraq and lesser Jihad (that against Israel) Arabs carefully renamed as "the Palestinians."
Otherwise Islam would choke on it's own spit.
And the muslims wait, praying to the Big Birds flying overhead, to drop the goods either paid for with unearned oil money, or offered by way of
tribute by Infidel lands. And sometimes the Big Birds land, and out come doctors, nurses, engineers, teachers -- from the Infidels, to the
Muslims, in a civilizing mission that never civilizes, becaue while the outward form may be
there, Islam prevents any inward moral and mental development.
Islam is a cargo cult with muhammad as it's 'john frum' a weak, fractured, totally dependent society that now has to rely on the west for its succor.
An Islamic society of envy and deciet to itself and others"
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humiliation for Israel

Helensvale, Australia

#41004 Jul 10, 2013
F-16 loss, a humiliation for Israel

By Mike Chester

Israel announced on July 8 that one of their F-16s suffered a mechanical failure off the coast of Gaza. A military spokesman for the Israeli Air Force (IAF) said both pilots were recovered. The plane is said to have crashed into the Mediterranean Sea.

Almost no part of this story is true. It makes as much sense as the story of the American Navy putting 22 Navy Seals on a National Guard helicopter. Nobody bought that one.

Israel did lose an F-16. They are unable to hide the fact that one of their first line aircraft is no longer in “inventory.”

Did Israel, as multiple reports now indicate, and perhaps even confirm, really lose an F-16 and its crew of two to a Syrian S-300 missile 48 hours before the claimed incident and over 400 miles from the claimed location?

On May 4, 2013, the Syrian Navy sunk an Israeli Dolphin submarine. Israel, unwilling to accept the public humiliation of such a loss: a disaster of such a proportion to its citizens has been repainting hull numbers and shuffling crew rosters on its remaining submarines for two months.

Lost aircraft, or something like a Dolphin submarine, especially during an offensive operation, are routinely never disclosed to the public for a variety of reason. Informed sources have disclosed that the F-16 training accident reported off the coast of Gaza was cover for their plane lost in the Syrian warehouse attack which is claimed was targeted as an S-300 component part base.

This 'attack' sounded fishy to us right away, starting with it being reported by Global Research which is an organization rumored to have “complex allegiances.”

First, these missiles systems are roll on roll off mobile launching systems designed to be deployed rapidly. Upon arrival they can be ready to fire within...well...you wouldn't believe it.

Second, S-300 components or inventory missiles would never be stored in an exposed warehouse facility where they would be sitting ducks. Each missile battalion moves continually and keeps its inventory moving with it.

Historically, the most effective way of destroying S-300 missiles is by crashing aircraft into them or, perhaps, the other way around.

Third, highly trained pilots, and Israel has them, are trained to defeat air defense systems. That said, the Israelis could possibly initiate and attack flying in at 50 feet. Our sources tell us the explosion in the photo shown by Global Research fit that of a 2000lb iron bomb, the standard payload for an F-16B. But while getting in is one thing, getting out alive is something entirely different.

For the Israelis not losing pilots has been a major morale booster for their people for decades now. During the 1973 war, Soviet SAMS over Syria destroyed much of the Israeli Air Force. American planes were quickly repainted with the Israeli Star of David with American pilots thrown into the breach, something long left out of that story even after all of this time.

This was the real reason for the oil embargo against the United States that put the American economy into a free fall that we have yet to recover from.

The Israelis have their nuclear weapons to threaten a Sampson option response, but that would be the end of the Zionist experiment, and unfortunately a lot of Holy Land architecture. But for the Zionists to confront Russia, or any major power they have not already neutralized is something they know they can't do. They have to count on the US to act as their attack dog.

We would never have known that there was an attack had Israel chosen not to gloat by leaking their “triumph” through the blogosphere. The loss of a single aircraft would
not be an embarrassment were it not for two minor issues.
humiliation for Israel

Helensvale, Australia

#41005 Jul 10, 2013
Nothing debunks the success of a mission to destroy air defenses more than losing a plane to those defenses. High level sources in the Department of Defense indicate that Israel has long bragged of their ability to use “homegrown” ECM (Electronic Counter Measures) to defeat S-300.

When Israel next calls the Pentagon, yarmulke in hand, egg on their face, their tone will be more restrained.

Need we discuss the 2% success rate of the Iron Dome?

The loss of a single aircraft is relatively easy to sweep under the rug, but a major engagement would see the planes raining down like they did in 1973, though a complete media lock down kept that information from becoming common knowledge.

One of the reasons America has been so aggressive in forward basing is to get their missiles in strategic positions to be used for effective offense or defense in the region.

As the new Russian missile defense technology which will make conventional piloted planes deathtraps is fully deployed, the West's abilities to take land by force without significant consequences will be history.

All planned attacks have contingency plans of cover and deception built into them to hide the failed missions from their own citizens. They do this through the liberal use of national security classifications that hide the truth from the American people.

This has been an ongoing threat to American national security for some time as mistakes never acknowledged can never be fixed. The designation of operations as classified or top secret can also be used to cover up those that serve the interests of foreign governments while undermining American interests.

The real cause of death, if these pilots did die, is hubris. Syria will never admit the attack. Syria can’t even claim the “kill.”

They fear Israeli desperation, and well they should.

MC/KA


Mike Chester is a featured writer for the online news magazine Veterans Today. He is retired from his career in industrial technology and now heads an engineering team for the Adamus Defense Group of Switzerland. After graduating from college, he taught this subject until deciding that he preferred doing the job himself more than teaching it. At various times during his career, he has designed, built, installed, and repaired industrial manufacturing machinery. His specialty was in electrical and electronics controls. He lives with his wife of over 30 years, has 3 adult children and 2 grandchildren.
humiliation for Israel

Helensvale, Australia

#41006 Jul 10, 2013
Seth Blathstein USA

Jul 10, 2013 5:21 AM

I understand that the attack occurred at 0230hrs at a depth of 150 meters, the sub was hit by a single torpedo and that President assad himself gave the final go ahead to destroy the sub, at the same time a German spy ship were operating in the same vicinity but were warned away by the Syrian Navy, can anybody verify if this ship is still close by? That could be very important as i understand that the Syrian Navy wants to do a Salvage operation which could be very embarrassing for "israel" Is this why "netanyahu" is getting so nervous and Angela Merkel is playing nice all of a sudden?
humiliation for Israel

Helensvale, Australia

#41007 Jul 10, 2013
Hats off to Veterans Today writers!

Jul 9, 2013 1:44 PM

Thank you Mr. Chester for the very in-depth backgrounder to the hi-tech muffled war between Israel and Syria. Yes, I did a double take on the "tame" news about Israel's F-16 loss during training, and doubted the possibility of such a fighter plane - and well maintained -- with a powerful thrust could ditch in the sea. I am amazed at Veterans Today distinguished stable of highly professional and articulate writers. Thank you Sirs and PressTV!

Mike Chesterin reply to Hats off to Veterans Today writers!
7/9/2013 10:21:37 PM
Thanks. I feel honored to be a part of what may well be the most diverse and intelligent group of writers to ever work together.

Eat your hearts out Bogans ...Oppppps its Ramadan I should keep away from filth but couldn't resist passing such good news ....LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,LLOL
humiliation for Israel

Helensvale, Australia

#41008 Jul 10, 2013
Gordon Duff
Jul 9, 2013 1:4 PM

When a Syrian news agency reported the sinking of an Israeli Dolphin submarine, a report with multiple confirmations, it was quickly suppressed.Everything possible is being done to keep news of the real war between Syria and Israel quiet.

Peacein reply to Gordon Duff

7/9/2013 1:24:38 PM

The truth has a weight,in my opinion ites weight is heavier than the sunk Dolphin submarine,so the one who reveal the truth is for sure a winner.
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Ra Madam

East Perth, Australia

#41009 Jul 10, 2013
Ramadan's started I bet those pesky Jews, make some devout Muslims kill each other right Muq ?
Ra Madam

East Perth, Australia

#41010 Jul 10, 2013

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#41011 Jul 10, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
No, not all the wrongs, but some, yes.
A bit more than some ; Just think, If it wasn't for the Jews Islam would never needed to exist and I find it interesting that the two major religions of our time were borne of The Middle East and look where that got us all MUQ !
Ra Madam

Port Pirie, Australia

#41014 Jul 10, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
A bit more than some ; Just think, If it wasn't for the Jews Islam would never needed to exist and I find it interesting that the two major religions of our time were borne of The Middle East and look where that got us all MUQ !
Naked dancing and prostitution,

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/p...

This can't be true in the most populous Muslim nation in the world.

What a joke.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#41015 Jul 10, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

Remembering Abu Jihad And Why, Really, The Israelis Killed Him
By Alan Hart
(contd.)

It was, however, Abu Jihad’s oversight management and control, from the bedroom of his modest, whitewashed villa in Sidi Bou Said, a suburb to the north-east of Tunis, that prevented the Israelis from putting down the first intifada as quickly as they had assumed they could by collective punishments, arrests, torture and killing. That was why, on 16 April 1988, Israeli Special Forces went all the way to Tunis to assassinate Abu Jihad in his bedroom.

Though it was enclosed by a wall eight feet high, the villa occupied an exposed corner position at a road junction inside what many local people described as the “Forbidden Zone” because of its security status. The Tunisian president’s palace and the American Ambassador’s residence were almost within shouting distance of Abu Jihad’s villa. When he was looking for a family home he had been directed to the location by Tunisian officials. They told him there was no other place where his security could be guaranteed. When the Israelis came ashore they were dressed as Tunisian security forces. They knew it was going to be an easy kill because Israeli agents had done a thorough reconnaissance job. They had discovered that Abu Jihad refused to surround himself with bodyguards of his own, in order to live as normal a life as possible with his childhood sweetheart and their children.

From Israel’s point of view Abu Jihad’s murder had the desired effect. Arafat was the man who inspired the Palestinian struggle, but Abu Jihad was the man who made it happen. Arafat was the man most respected by most Palestinians as the symbol of regenerated Palestinian nationalism, but Abu Jihad was the man the fighters and their families (the resistors of Israeli occupation) most admired. On an emotional as well as an organisational level, his murder was a huge setback for the resistance movement in the Occupied Territories.

When the first intifada started Israelis had a choice of two options. One was to continue living by the sword. The other was to say to themselves something like:“If we are not to find ourselves in a nightmare situation of our own making, we had better negotiate our way out of occupation.” There were rational Israelis who did say such things. But gut-Zionism prevailed. It was congenitally incapable of responding to the Palestinian cry for even a minimum of justice with anything but the iron fist. Greater Israel was to be strengthened and consolidated, not dismantled, even at the price of there being no peace, ever.

It was then that some of those who had done most to make a reality of Zionism’s mad dream did a most foolish thing. In the hope of weakening support for Arafat’s PLO in the Occupied Territories, they encouraged the growth of Hamas. The extent to which Israel assisted the development of Islamic fundamentalism (Palestinian style) is still a well kept secret.

In retrospect it can be said that if Israel had been willing to accept Arafat’s PLO as a negotiating partner in the mid to late 1980s, Hamas in particular, and Islamic fundamentalism in general, could not and would not have emerged as an unmanageable threat to anybody in the context of the struggle for Palestine. In that context the real recruiting sergeant of Islamic fundamentalism (Palestinian style) for resistance was Zionism’s arrogance of power and insufferable self-righteousness

lan Hart has been engaged with events in the Middle East and their global consequences and terrifying implications – the possibility of a Clash of Civilisations, Judeo-Christian v Islamic, and, along the way, another great turning against the Jews – for nearly 40 years… Alan is author of "Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews" - http://www.alanhart.net
mutley

Brisbane, Australia

#41016 Jul 10, 2013
frederika s loves all muslims. even if they are hard core criminals. if u don't like detention , u can go and live at her place..

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#41017 Jul 10, 2013
Ra Madam wrote:
<quoted text> Naked dancing and prostitution,
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/p...
This can't be true in the most populous Muslim nation in the world.
What a joke.
It read that it is legal to sell alcohol with a licence ?
No grog means no grog.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#41018 Jul 10, 2013
MUQ wrote:
-
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...
Remembering Abu Jihad And Why, Really, The Israelis Killed Him
By Alan Hart
(contd.)
It was, however, Abu Jihad’s oversight management and control, from the bedroom of his modest, whitewashed villa in Sidi Bou Said, a suburb to the north-east of Tunis, that prevented the Israelis from putting down the first intifada as quickly as they had assumed they could by collective punishments, arrests, torture and killing. That was why, on 16 April 1988, Israeli Special Forces went all the way to Tunis to assassinate Abu Jihad in his bedroom.
Though it was enclosed by a wall eight feet high, the villa occupied an exposed corner position at a road junction inside what many local people described as the “Forbidden Zone” because of its security status. The Tunisian president’s palace and the American Ambassador’s residence were almost within shouting distance of Abu Jihad’s villa. When he was looking for a family home he had been directed to the location by Tunisian officials. They told him there was no other place where his security could be guaranteed. When the Israelis came ashore they were dressed as Tunisian security forces. They knew it was going to be an easy kill because Israeli agents had done a thorough reconnaissance job. They had discovered that Abu Jihad refused to surround himself with bodyguards of his own, in order to live as normal a life as possible with his childhood sweetheart and their children.
From Israel’s point of view Abu Jihad’s murder had the desired effect. Arafat was the man who inspired the Palestinian struggle, but Abu Jihad was the man who made it happen. Arafat was the man most respected by most Palestinians as the symbol of regenerated Palestinian nationalism, but Abu Jihad was the man the fighters and their families (the resistors of Israeli occupation) most admired. On an emotional as well as an organisational level, his murder was a huge setback for the resistance movement in the Occupied Territories.
When the first intifada started Israelis had a choice of two options. One was to continue living by the sword. The other was to say to themselves something like:“If we are not to find ourselves in a nightmare situation of our own making, we had better negotiate our way out of occupation.” There were rational Israelis who did say such things. But gut-Zionism prevailed. It was congenitally incapable of responding to the Palestinian cry for even a minimum of justice with anything but the iron fist. Greater Israel was to be strengthened and consolidated, not dismantled, even at the price of there being no peace, ever.
It was then that some of those who had done most to make a reality of Zionism’s mad dream did a most foolish thing. In the hope of weakening support for Arafat’s PLO in the Occupied Territories, they encouraged the growth of Hamas. The extent to which Israel assisted the development of Islamic fundamentalism (Palestinian style) is still a well kept secret.
In retrospect it can be said that if Israel had been willing to accept Arafat’s PLO as a negotiating partner in the mid to late 1980s, Hamas in particular, and Islamic fundamentalism in general, could not and would not have emerged as an unmanageable threat to anybody in the context of the struggle for Palestine. In that context the real recruiting sergeant of Islamic fundamentalism (Palestinian style) for resistance was Zionism’s arrogance of power and insufferable self-righteousness
lan Hart has been engaged with events in the Middle East and their global consequences and terrifying implications – the possibility of a Clash of Civilisations, Judeo-Christian v Islamic, and, along the way, another great turning against the Jews – for nearly 40 years… Alan is author of "Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews" - http://www.alanhart.net
Hello Moiz,it has been said on these threads that Arafat was a Jewish agent of sorts ,what do you hear ?
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#41019 Jul 11, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello Moiz,it has been said on these threads that Arafat was a Jewish agent of sorts ,what do you hear ?
I do not know about him, he is dead and gone, Allah knows best about what he was.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#41020 Jul 11, 2013
Ra Madam wrote:
Ramadan's started I bet those pesky Jews, make some devout Muslims kill each other right Muq ?
Jews would not mind that, neither could Christians, Hindus or people of other faiths would mind that.

Zionist Jews certainly would be happiest than the rest, and ready to extend any "little help" that any one needs.
pimuncherbusterL OL

Australia

#41021 Jul 11, 2013
Oh Bogan trash, more good news for you to cry over.....LLOL,LLOL,LLOL

THE ROVING EYE
The China-US 'Brotherhood'

By Pepe Escobar

The fifth round of the US-China Strategic and Economic Dialogue began this Thursday in Washington. This China-US "Brotherhood" does involve a lot of talk - with no perceptible action. US Think Tankland is trying to convey the impression that Beijing is now in a more fragile position relative to Washington compared with the post-financial crisis environment in 2009. Nonsense.

It's as if the ongoing NSA (global) scandal never happened; Edward Snowden exposed how the US government has turned against its own citizens even while it keeps spying on virtually the whole planet. Then there's the meme of the Chinese economy

being "in trouble", when in fact Beijing is launching a long-reaching, complex strategy to calibrate the effects of a relative economic slowdown.

Finally, the supposed "aggressive Chinese behavior" in terms of Asian security is just spin. Beijing is building up its navy, of course - yet at the same time both China and selected members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations are fine-tuning their tactics ahead of multilateral talks about a code of conduct for any serious problems in the South China Sea. Beijing would be foolish to go for diplomacy of the gunboat variety - which would certainly attract a US countercoup.

Bogged down, all over
Beijing has clearly interpreted the North Atlantic Treaty Organization's "liberation" of Libya - now reverted into failed state status; US support for the destruction of Syria; and the "pivoting" to Asia as all interlinked, targeting China's ascension and devised to rattle the complex Chinese strategy of an Eurasian energy corridor.

Yet it does not seem to be working. As Asia Times Online reported, the Iran-Pakistan (IP) pipeline may well end up as IPC, "C" being an extension to Xinjiang in western China. Beijing also knows very well how the proposed Iran-Iraq-Syria gas pipeline has been a key reason for the emphatic attack on Syria orchestrated by actors such as Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Turkey. Beijing calculates that if Bashar al-Assad stays and the US$10 billion pipeline ever gets completed (certainly with Chinese and Russian financial help) the top client may end up being Beijing itself, and not Western Europe.

Considering its strategic relationship with Islamabad, Beijing is also very much aware of any US moves to stir up trouble in geo-strategically crucial Balochistan in Pakistan - with a possible overspill to neighboring Sistan-Balochistan province in Iran. In parallel, Beijing interprets US bluster and intransigence about Iran's nuclear program as a cover story to upset its solid energy security partnership with Tehran.

Regarding Afghanistan, the corridors at the Zhongnanhai in Beijing must be echoing with laughter as Washington backtracks no less than 16 years, to the second Bill Clinton administration - an eternity in politics - to talk to the Taliban in Doha essentially about one of the oldest Pipelinestan gambits. "We want a pipeline" (the Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakis tan-India, TAPI), says Washington. "We want our cut", the Taliban reply. This is politics as Groundhog Day.

The problem is Washington has absolutely nothing to offer the Taliban. The Taliban, on the other hand, will keep their summer offensive schedule, knowing full well they will be free to do whatever they please after President Hamid Karzai slides into oblivion. As for the Washington notion that Islamabad will be able to keep the Afghan Taliban in check, even the goats in the Hindu Kush are laughing about it.

It's all about Syria
Syria, though, remains the key story - as the pivot of a spreading cancer, a Sunni/Shi'ite sectarian war largely encouraged by the House of Saud and other Gulf Cooperation Council actors, and bought hook, line and sinker by the Obama administration.
pimuncherbusterL OL

Australia

#41022 Jul 11, 2013
It took a courageous diplomat to leak it, plus translations from Russian to Arabic and then English, for the world to have an idea of what politicians actually discuss in those largely vacuous, photo-opportunity summits. What Russian President Vladimir Putin told Obama, Britain's David Cameron and French President Francois Hollande face-to-face at the recent Group of Eight summit in Northern Ireland is nothing less than gripping. Examples:

Putin addressing the table: "You want President Bashar al-Assad to step down? Look at the leaders you've made in the Middle East in the course of what you have dubbed the 'Arab Spring'."

Putin addressing Obama, Cameron and Hollande: "You want Russia to abandon Assad and his regime and go along with an opposition whose leaders don't know anything except issuing fatwas declaring people heretics, and whose members - who come from a bunch of different countries and have multiple orientations - don't know anything except how to slaughter people and eat human flesh."

Putin addressing Obama directly: "Your country sent its army to Afghanistan in the year 2001 on the excuse that you are fighting the Taliban and the al-Qaeda organization and other fundamentalist terrorists whom your government accused of carrying out the 11 September attacks on New York and Washington. And here you are today making an alliance with them in Syria. And you and your allies are declaring your desire to send them weapons. And here you have Qatar in which you [the US] have your biggest base in the region and in the territory of that country the Taliban are opening a representative office."

The best part is that German Chancellor Angela Merkel then corroborated Putin's every word. And Chinese President Xi Jinping certainly would have done the same.

Keep weaving that net, brother
Even if the Obama administration's bright idea of selecting the "good" rebels to be presented with light weapons would work (and it won't; in a war theatre the real hardcore fighting forces - as in the Jabhat al-Nusra-style gangs - end up laying their hands on the best weapons), there's no evidence that Bashar al-Assad's forces will fold.

On the contrary. There will be a push to reconquer all of Aleppo - already in progress, as well as a push southward to Daraa to secure the border with Jordan; petro-monarchy-fueled weapons to "rebels" in southern Syria go through Jordan. Rumors of "overextension" are greatly exaggerated; this can be accomplished in stages.

Russia, meanwhile, will keep playing a very clever game; ensuring essential weapons to the Syrian government while ready to deliver even more lethal stuff in case Washington decides to step up its weaponizing.

And then there's the whole Muslim Brotherhood-wide mess. Al-Akhbar has deliciously detailed how the House of Saud virtually destroyed Qatar in Egypt - as well as in Syria. It's never enough to remember that the House of Saud supports backward Salafi parties in Egypt and weaponizes backward Salafi fighters in Syria.

In Egypt, meet the new boss - Saudis and Emiratis - same as the old boss - Qataris. Before he recently decided to self-depose, Emir al-Thani spent as much as $17 billion on assorted Arab Springers, most of it for Morsi in Egypt. Now the House of Saud has already offered $5 billion, and the Emirates $3 billion. None of them have obviously been reading on this site the views of Spengler - who has proved that Egypt, much to the regret of their wonderful people, will remain a banana republic - without the bananas (see Islam's civil war moves to Egypt , Asia Times Online, July 8, 2013.)

The bottom line: Beijing is betting it will win in Pakistan, in Iran, in Syria (it's already winning in Iraq), in Pipelineistan, not to mention in the South China Sea, while Washington will be entangled in its own Brotherhood net. "Fragile"? You wish.

Pepe Escobar is the author of Globalistan:

He may be reached at [email protected]
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#41023 Jul 11, 2013
NT wrote:
A bit more than some ; Just think, If it wasn't for the Jews Islam would never needed to exist and I find it interesting that the two major religions of our time were borne of The Middle East and look where that got us all MUQ !
Ans.

It is like saying, if it was not for Adam, there would be "No Humans on earth"!!

The religion of God, the religion of Islam is what was the religion of All prophets of God, irrespective of the regions.

It is not correct to say that Islam came only because of Jews.

As for your second Remarks, just spread the circle a little wider, All Major religions of the world, came from Asia!!

Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity and islam , they all arose from Asia!!

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#41024 Jul 11, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
It is like saying, if it was not for Adam, there would be "No Humans on earth"!!
The religion of God, the religion of Islam is what was the religion of All prophets of God, irrespective of the regions.
It is not correct to say that Islam came only because of Jews.
As for your second Remarks, just spread the circle a little wider, All Major religions of the world, came from Asia!!
Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity and islam , they all arose from Asia!!
Islam is a blatant plagiarism of both Jewish and Christian scriptures . It was used to cover its violent ideology and God will call its followers to account on the last day. Mug will be more accountable than most because he has promoted his filthy pedophile and his lies to who knows how many on this and other forums

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