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Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46752 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#40809 Jun 28, 2013
Which sect of Islam dominates Indonesia seeing mostly of the boat peoples are coming from Iran which is Shi'ite .
The Indonesians do not want these peoples returned to their country so could that make Indonesia Sunni ?
Under international law a passenger caught illegally entering a country must be returned to their point of departure prior to their arrival which might be why the boat peoples are claiming persecution for in case they are returned to Indonesia.
The tainted flow

Australia

#40810 Jun 28, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
Which sect of Islam dominates Indonesia seeing mostly of the boat peoples are coming from Iran which is Shi'ite .
The Indonesians do not want these peoples returned to their country so could that make Indonesia Sunni ?
Under international law a passenger caught illegally entering a country must be returned to their point of departure prior to their arrival which
might be why the boat peoples are claiming persecution for in case they are returned to Indonesia.
Indonesians practice an adapted version of Islam with additional animism rituals thrown in. The Sunni Wahhabi despair at how ignorant and pagan they are. The asylum seekers usually enter Malaysia which allows any Muslim entry without visa conditions. They gather around times square (Kl) there are thousands, and they are then shipped in batches thru Indonesia with a $300 bribe paid. There is a large industry coaching them on procedure, what to claim, how to position as a 'persecuted' minority etc.
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At this stage the Malaysian & Indonesian goverments have all their details, video, photo,
fingerprints. Once in Indonesia they are taken to the south coast for the short trip over to
Christmas Island. Their documents, phones etc are discarded only when it's clear they will be picked up (boat sabotaged).
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Yes many are "Shia" and that's the thing.
Shia or Rohinga or Hazara (Mongol Islam) can all claim persecution from Sunni, so they are trained and coached to pretend to be that or if they are - they have a better chance of being accepted as asylum seekers.
As Shia is still technically islamic, they can get
open access into Malaysia.
And because the Malays & Indonesians arent really proper Sunni - and Shia is the 'freight'
that's coming in, or 'manufactured' to be goods - it leads to the characteristics you comment on.
A 'Sunni' nation actively pushing and supporting 'Shia' and 'Hazara' and Rohinga' victims fleeing Islam... But in fact actively supported by all Islam as a burden and infiltration of the west.
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They should all be deported back to Malaysia & Indonesia retrospectively, those countries have all their records on file electronically, and that was their last destination of legal arrival.
I'm talking nearly 120,000 including family reunion that have entered Australia on a fraudulent basis, supported by malaysia & Indonesia complicit in this fraud.
I would bet indonesea & Malaysia would very quickly find who they were and then force them back to their country of origin.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#40812 Jun 28, 2013
The tainted flow wrote:
<quoted text>
Indonesians practice an adapted version of Islam with additional animism rituals thrown in. The Sunni Wahhabi despair at how ignorant and pagan they are. The asylum seekers usually enter Malaysia which allows any Muslim entry without visa conditions. They gather around times square (Kl) there are thousands, and they are then shipped in batches thru Indonesia with a $300 bribe paid. There is a large industry coaching them on procedure, what to claim, how to position as a 'persecuted' minority etc.
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At this stage the Malaysian & Indonesian goverments have all their details, video, photo,
fingerprints. Once in Indonesia they are taken to the south coast for the short trip over to
Christmas Island. Their documents, phones etc are discarded only when it's clear they will be picked up (boat sabotaged).
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Yes many are "Shia" and that's the thing.
Shia or Rohinga or Hazara (Mongol Islam) can all claim persecution from Sunni, so they are trained and coached to pretend to be that or if they are - they have a better chance of being accepted as asylum seekers.
As Shia is still technically islamic, they can get
open access into Malaysia.
And because the Malays & Indonesians arent really proper Sunni - and Shia is the 'freight'
that's coming in, or 'manufactured' to be goods - it leads to the characteristics you comment on.
A 'Sunni' nation actively pushing and supporting 'Shia' and 'Hazara' and Rohinga' victims fleeing Islam... But in fact actively supported by all Islam as a burden and infiltration of the west.
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They should all be deported back to Malaysia & Indonesia retrospectively, those countries have all their records on file electronically, and that was their last destination of legal arrival.
I'm talking nearly 120,000 including family reunion that have entered Australia on a fraudulent basis, supported by malaysia & Indonesia complicit in this fraud.
I would bet indonesea & Malaysia would very quickly find who they were and then force them back to their country of origin.
This is something Prime Minister Kevin Rudd cannot ignore

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#40813 Jun 28, 2013
MUQ wrote:
“Proofs” that Makkah existed only after 150 CE:
(Based on latest inputs from our “Great Historians on the thread)
Look at the “proofs” that these people are providing, there is no shred of evidence that Makkah did not exist before 150 CE.
The so called “Proofs” are only in their heads.
The “Only” reliable proof that Makkah did not exist prior to 150 CE, was some on who visited that place in say 100 CE and found “Nothing” there and then when he visited that place in 150 CE, Vow a new city has sprang up there!!
And a “New house of God” sprang up from no where!!
But such type of evidence, these people do not have and shall never have.
Prior to Islam, there was no ban on any one visiting Makkah, provided they did not violate its sanctity.
After prophet conquered Makkah and whole Arabia was purged of idolatry, entry of Non Muslims to Makkah was prohibited.
And this was from Quran, which no Muslim could ignore.
Now we hear some non Muslims “cheating the system and visiting Makkah in the dress of pilgrimage, what is the worth of evidence of such people.
They were themselves residing as fugitive and afraid that their secret is not revealed, how they could do any “archeological survey there”?
And what is secret about the rituals of Hajj and Umrah? Millions of Muslims perform these and there are hundreds of books written about it by Muslims in every age.
When the photography and videography came, the Saudi Govt. is relaying prayers at Makkah and Hajj operations to every corner of the world.
Where is the Secrecy?
Now so called “analysis” of Black Stone and “Proving that it was fake”!! This is masterpiece!!
Was that “Black Stone” created in 150 CE and fixed into Kaaba? I do not know what “tests” were performed on the stone, to find out “date on which it was created”, and that too “On the order of Ruler of Makkah”!!
Our antagonists have touched about every thing except about the well of Zam Zam!!
Now, is that well also fake? Is there anyother well any where in the world that has this much supply of water?
Every year millions of pilgrims drink that water and take it as a souvenir. Every one can see “Non Stop” pumping from that well.
Now let us see our Yemani Historians “prove” that this well also “sprang out of thin air” in 150 CE.
If we are in the business of “manufacturing History”, let us get this thing also done with!!
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You argument about Mekkah existing or not existing sound as stupid as if I said.

America did exist before it was discovered but no one ever mentioned that it did exist, in MUQ theory it had to exist.
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Of course America did not exist prior to it being discovered, a land mass was there yes but there was no America, America came into existence when Amerigo Vespucci wrote about it for the first time in one of his diaries.

Same as Mekkah never existed until some Arab wrote about it.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#40814 Jun 28, 2013
oinkoinkbuster wrote:
<quoted text>
And you Bogan dogs just love to bark in packs......LLOL
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And Muslims squeal in droves.
oinkoinkbuster

Wollongong, Australia

#40815 Jun 28, 2013
LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, MUMs the word convicts, not a single rant by any psychopath criminal convict not even doggy Barboon who loves to bark even at rustling leaves, LLOL , LLOL, come on convicts defend the indefensible...... lets have some rants on the following post by your heroes...LLOL,LLOL

IN THEIR OW WORDS NO LESS..........

by TOM McNAMARA

Box me up and ship me home

Pin my medals upon my chest

Tell my mom I’ve done my best - Marine Corps Cadence

Rennes, France.

On June 10th of this year, Daniel Somers, a veteran of more than 400 combat missions in Iraq, killed himself. One more name to be added to the list of US veterans who have committed suicide.

It’s a very long list. And it is growing at an astonishing rate. Just about every single hour, of every single day, another name gets added to it. What America’s enemies could not accomplish in hostile zones, American society appears to be able to do with complete abandon; facilitate the death of US soldiers.

It’s quite an impressive accomplishment when one thinks about it, really. In 2012, the number of active duty soldiers who killed themselves was greater than the number killed in combat (about every other day a US soldier committed suicide). The same was true for 2011.

The family of Daniel Somers agreed to make his suicide note public. It can be found here. In his final letter Mr. Somers says that he “was made to participate in things, the enormity of which is hard to describe. War crimes, crimes against humanity.” He says that to return to society and to “move on in life after being part of such a thing would be the mark of a sociopath” in his mind.

He goes on to talk of being sick and injured, and of having been abandoned by his government in his time of need. Furthermore, he tells us that he is fully aware of the crisis currently going on in the US with regards to veteran suicides, citing the statistic that the number of veterans who kill themselves per day is greater than the number of children killed at Sandy Hook in Connecticut.

Think about that for a minute. The suicide epidemic among US soldiers and veterans is the equivalent of one Sandy Hook massacre every single day. Finally, Mr. Somers talks of the freedom and peace that suicide will bring him, no longer having to be subjected to the pain, nightmares, flashbacks or hallucinations caused by what he saw and took part in Iraq. It has been estimated that 655,000 Iraqis have died as a direct result of the US led invasion of 2003.

According to the principles put forth at the Nüremberg War Crimes Tribunal and the founding charter of the United Nations this is clearly a war crime that borders on being a crime against humanity. The war in Afghanistan and America’s use of targeted drone strikes (in what can only be described as a terror campaign) can also be considered as war crimes.

One lowly US soldier found it impossible to live with himself due to his perceived complicity in America’s war crimes. How President George Bush and President Barack Obama can unapologetically live their lives knowing the deeds they have engineered, committed and are responsible for is unconscionable.

Tonight President Bush and President Obama will sleep quietly in their beds. If we lived in a correct and just society they would be on trial. For murder. May Allah shower his blessings on the author for his moral courage.
Read more at

Unconscionable, do you know this word convicts, I know your education level is poor to say the least but your deeds are UNCONSCIONABLE ......forget about MAKKAH and MADINA we will discuss that when we educate you a bit LLOL, meantime..........UNCONSCIONAB LE
Dirty Dog Catcher

Naracoorte, Australia

#40816 Jun 28, 2013
oinkoinkbuster wrote:
LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, MUMs the word convicts, not a single rant by any psychopath criminal convict not even doggy Barboon who loves to bark even at rustling leaves, LLOL , LLOL, come on convicts defend the indefensible...... lets have some rants on the following post by your heroes...LLOL,LLOL
IN THEIR OW WORDS NO LESS..........
Hip Hip Hooray !!!!

http://pukmedia.com/Wenekan_EN/2650191062013_...

Yay ,

http://static3.demotix.com/sites/default/file...

Not Enough More PLEASE !!!

HE He he , HA Ha ha

LOSERS !!!!
Dirty Dog Catcher

Naracoorte, Australia

#40817 Jun 28, 2013
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/23/egyp...

MORE More more

Keep the good work up, DON'T STOP

Ha Ha ha LOSERS

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#40818 Jun 28, 2013
oinkoinkbuster wrote:
Your Masters are killing themselves, what kind of arse kissers are you Bogans? you should go and help your brothers by getting rid of yourselves LLOL,LLOL,LLOL good riddance to low life filthy rubbish (read below their crimes in their own words). they were nothing but criminals after all (no wonder they lost to rag tag farmers in flip flops) LLOL,LLOL,LLOL
it seems these war criminals committed crimes against humanity and couldn't live with the guilt of murdering infants, children and women, ultimate cowards have now met their maker and a scorching fire awaits them and you convicts for supporting genocide of innocent people which history will record to their shame, nevertheless at least those war criminals had more moral fortitude than you convicts who keep trying to defend the indefensible genocide of innocents ..........now go ahead and rant away and oh, don't forget to bark...llol,llol,llol,
by TOM McNAMARA
Box me up and ship me home
Pin my medals upon my chest
Tell my mom I’ve done my best
- Marine Corps Cadence
Rennes, France.
On June 10th of this year, Daniel Somers, a veteran of more than 400 combat missions in Iraq, killed himself. One more name to be added to the list of US veterans who have committed suicide.
It’s a very long list. And it is growing at an astonishing rate. Just about every single hour, of every single day, another name gets added to it. What America’s enemies could not accomplish in hostile zones, American society appears to be able to do with complete abandon; facilitate the death of US soldiers.
It’s quite an impressive accomplishment when one thinks about it, really. In 2012, the number of active duty soldiers who killed themselves was greater than the number killed in combat (about every other day a US soldier committed suicide). The same was true for 2011.

He goes on to talk of being sick and injured, and of having been abandoned by his government in his time of need. Furthermore, he tells us that he is fully aware of the crisis currently going on in the US with regards to veteran suicides, citing the statistic that the number of veterans who kill themselves per day is greater than the number of children killed at Sandy Hook in Connecticut.
Think about that for a minute. The suicide epidemic among US soldiers and veterans is the equivalent of one Sandy Hook massacre every single day.
Finally, Mr. Somers talks of the freedom and peace that suicide will bring him, no longer having to be subjected to the pain, nightmares, flashbacks or hallucinations caused by what he saw and took part in Iraq.
It has been estimated that 655,000 Iraqis have died as a direct result of the US led invasion of 2003. According to the principles put forth at the Nüremberg War Crimes Tribunal and the founding charter of the United Nations this is clearly a war crime that borders on being a crime against humanity. The war in Afghanistan and America’s use of targeted drone strikes (in what can only be described as a terror campaign) can also be considered as war crimes.
One lowly US soldier found it impossible to live with himself due to his perceived complicity in America’s war crimes.
How President George Bush and President Barack Obama can unapologetically live their lives knowing the deeds they have engineered, committed and are responsible for is unconscionable.
Tonight President Bush and President Obama will sleep quietly in their beds. If we lived in a correct and just society they would be on trial.
For murder.
May Allah shower his blessings on the author for his moral courage.
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Your postings are as much rubbish as the pig song is.
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Are you aware that Muslims are very close related to the porcine.
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#40819 Jun 28, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Technical advances are one part of our lives, they are not every thing.
Have these technical advances solved any of basic human problems? Have the wars stopped, has the exploitation of weaker nations stopped, has the crimes ended from the world?
Has domestic violence came down, is racism finished from the world?
Despite all these technical advances, the world is more dangerous place to live on than it was at any time during the entire human history.
So just do not blow your trumpet as if by these innovations and advances, you have become "super humans", you are still born, grow up and die...and will have to give account of your lives to your Creator.
He will not ask, what technical advances you made, He will ask, how you reacted to the message and guidance which He sent thru His Chosen prophets.
While working on these technical advances, spare some time for this most important questions also.
How can you be so naive MUQ?
Of course technical advances are extremely important..
Just look at the tools your using right now, the computer, the Internet, your cell phone etc etc.
All technical advances has made the world a better place for mankind!!

And of course ALL these technical advances have been made by western countries..
Muslims have contributed next to nothing!! All these western technical advances have made life better for you muslims as well but you have also used these technical advances to kill people..

Like I told you before, the West has the technical knowledge to do many great things,
The west has the knowledge and it has the power
The west is the policeman of the world
The west has made the world a better place to live in, Muslims just want to destroy what the west has created

The technical advances made by the west has;
- increased the life span of mankind world wide
- solved many illness of mankind
- has made countless medical breakthroughs
- etc etc

The west has created Human Rights, pollution controls, rule of laws etc etc

The WEST is the greatest the world ever known and the west is respected by everybody in the world. Muslims like the west that's why they all want to come to western Christian countries!!

Everybody know that when you come to the west, you are in a safe and friendly country!!

The WEST IS THE GREATEST ever known to mankind!!
Why are you such a hypocrite MUQ, why don't you give the west credit for everything it has done for mankind???
Why do you always look at the west with such distane??
Admit it MUQ, you know nothing about the west, you only know the bad propaganda pushed on you by your religious zelots!!

PS
God loves the west, that's why he has given the Western people so much power and knowledge!!!

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#40821 Jun 28, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
Which sect of Islam dominates Indonesia seeing mostly of the boat peoples are coming from Iran which is Shi'ite .
The Indonesians do not want these peoples returned to their country so could that make Indonesia Sunni ?
Under international law a passenger caught illegally entering a country must be returned to their point of departure prior to their arrival which might be why the boat peoples are claiming persecution for in case they are returned to Indonesia.
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Indonesian are phoney Muslims, they are neither Sunni nor Shiite.
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Very few women wear the head veils, the Burgah are very seldom seen.
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Just take a look at the female president they had how she wore make up and jewelery.
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Man and women in Jakarta dance on the street.
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They eat pork openly in public.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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In Jakarta Unmarried Indonesian Women and Indonesian Men go to water edge and make out.
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In Jakarta you will find nightclubs where it is full of young teenage Indonesian Muslim girls and Muslim men.
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Many of the Muslim Indonesian girls same as any Western city if you treat them nice, of their own free choice they will go back with you to your Motel room and fck with you.
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These are not prostitute, some are very rich families.
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Here is the real phoney Islamic country of Indonesia.
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http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/news/seventy-t...
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#40823 Jun 29, 2013
vic wrote:
<quoted text>
80% of muslims are terrorists and jihad and al qaeda....they sell bomb on the streets like ripe tomatoes and their children play with ak-47's and smg's...they have terrorist helplines and degrees in jihadism
If 80 % of Muslims were members of Al Qaeda, the US would not have survived in Iraq and Afghanistan and Pakistan for a day?

Or you say that only 20 % of Muslim population is who is acting like "puppets" of US and European forces and fighting with 80 % of other Muslims, who want to get out of Western influence?

Thanks brother for confirming what I was saying all along!!
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#40824 Jun 29, 2013
Serpent wrote:
<quoted text>
How can you be so naive MUQ?
Of course technical advances are extremely important..
Just look at the tools your using right now, the computer, the Internet, your cell phone etc etc.
All technical advances has made the world a better place for mankind!!
..
PS
God loves the west, that's why he has given the Western people so much power and knowledge!!!
You carefully avoided to answer my question.

I said that technical advances are not everything and they do not solve any of your basic problems.

Did these advances solved your problems of racism, crime, drug addiction, murders, rapes, domestic violence, mental sickness, suicides,.....?

No they did not, technical advances is not the prerogative of any nation. It is chance given to every nation and these times it is for Western people.

PS:

These are not signs that God love people who are more advanced in science and technology. God loves those who act on His guidance and try to seek answers for the Questions that we will be asked in the hereafter.

There should be a just balance between materialistic life and spiritual life.

This balance is disturbed by Zealots in the Materialistic Philosophy and the Zealots in the Spiritual Philosophy.

We have to restored the normalcy, if we want to see a "balanced human progress"
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#40825 Jun 29, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

Beyond Bayonets and Battleships
Space Warfare and the Future of U.S. Global Power

By Alfred W. McCoy
(Contd.)

Operation of this complex worldwide apparatus will require, as one DARPA official explained in 2007, "an integrated collection of space surveillance systems -- an architecture -- that is leak-proof." Thus, by 2010, the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency had 16,000 employees, a $5 billion budget, and a massive $2 billion headquarters at Fort Belvoir, Virginia, with 8,500 staffers wrapped in electronic security –

all aimed at coordinating the flood of surveillance data pouring in from Predators, Reapers, U-2 spy planes, Global Hawks, X-37B space drones, Google Earth, Space Surveillance Telescopes, and orbiting satellites. By 2020 or thereafter -- such a complex techno-system is unlikely to respect schedules -- this triple canopy should be able to atomize a single “terrorist” with a missile strike after tracking his eyeball, facial image, or heat signature for hundreds of miles through field and favela, or blind an entire army by knocking out all ground communications, avionics, and naval navigation.

Technological Dominion or Techno-Disaster?

Peering into the future, a still uncertain balance of forces offers two competing scenarios for the continuation of U.S. global power. If all or much goes according to plan, sometime in the third decade of this century the Pentagon will complete a comprehensive global surveillance system for Earth, sky, and space using robotics to coordinate a veritable flood of data from biometric street-level monitoring, cyber-data mining, a worldwide network of Space Surveillance Telescopes, and triple canopy aeronautic patrols. Through agile data management of exceptional power, this system might allow the United States a veto of global lethality, an equalizer for any further loss of economic strength.

However, as in Vietnam, history offers some pessimistic parallels when it comes to the U.S. preserving its global hegemony by militarized technology alone. Even if this robotic information regime could somehow check China’s growing military power, the U.S. might still have the same chance of controlling wider geopolitical forces with aerospace technology as the Third Reich had of winning World War II with its “super weapons”-- V-2 rockets that rained death on London and Messerschmitt Me-262 jets that blasted allied bombers from Europe’s skies. Complicating the future further, the illusion of information omniscience might incline Washington to more military misadventures akin to Vietnam or Iraq, creating the possibility of yet more expensive, draining conflicts, from Iran to the South China Sea.

If the future of America’s world power is shaped by actual events rather than long-term economic trends, then its fate might well be determined by which comes first in this century-long cycle: military debacle from the illusion of technological mastery, or a new technological regime powerful enough to perpetuate U.S. global dominion.

Alfred W. McCoy is the J.R.W. Smail Professor of History at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. A TomDispatch regular, he is the lead author of Endless Empire: Spain’s Retreat, Europe’s Eclipse, America’s Decline (University of Wisconsin, 2012), which is the source for much of the material in this essay.

Follow TomDispatch on Twitter @TomDispatch and join us on Facebook. Check out the newest Dispatch book, Nick Turse’s The Changing Face of Empire: Special Ops, Drones, Proxy Fighters, Secret Bases, and Cyberwarfare.
This article was originally posted at TomDispatch
Copyright 2012 Alfred W. McCoy
Bob

Port Pirie, Australia

#40826 Jun 29, 2013
Why should Australians fear from Muslims

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-22832...

Sexual deviates.

“pshhhhh”

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#40827 Jun 29, 2013
How bout we all go get some ice cream
vic

Gurgaon, India

#40828 Jun 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
If 80 % of Muslims were members of Al Qaeda, the US would not have survived in Iraq and Afghanistan and Pakistan for a day?
Or you say that only 20 % of Muslim population is who is acting like "puppets" of US and European forces and fighting with 80 % of other Muslims, who want to get out of Western influence?
Thanks brother for confirming what I was saying all along!!
How are bombs selling today pal...i heard they got cheaper since the dollar went up

and i dunno what you been sayin all along and i dont care

evryone is important and shit on the internet , but a chimp in REAL
ALI

Australia

#40829 Jun 29, 2013
This muq is such a loser.
He is a hopeless and obvious liar.
No one, not even an Indian Muslim could surely can be as stupid, or as ignorant as the posts he makes. Everything he says is really weak or notv the real story or faith of Islam.
I reckon he is a Hindu troublemaker deliberately spreading smear and doubt about Islam.
Anikya

Australia

#40831 Jun 29, 2013
He is that dumb....he has been around for years, he says same old koran and mohammad crap over and over and over..........
all indians born muslim = much lower iq.......
u just not used to it. we have millions of these have to put up with, imagine, why we encourage them go to other countries.:)

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#40832 Jun 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
If 80 % of Muslims were members of Al Qaeda, the US would not have survived in Iraq and Afghanistan and Pakistan for a day?
Or you say that only 20 % of Muslim population is who is acting like "puppets" of US and European forces and fighting with 80 % of other Muslims, who want to get out of Western influence?
Thanks brother for confirming what I was saying all along!!
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99% OF the uneducated Muslims are crazy.
What make you think that those with no education can ever win a war.

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