Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46759 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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Irish news

Chiswick, Australia

#40701 Jun 21, 2013
oinkoinkbuster wrote:
Last weekend, former French Foreign Minister Roland Dumas confirmed this criminal conspiracy... Blah dribble
Nothing new and literally copied off socialist conspiracy blogs..
And now the writer ;
Finian Cunningham, loser. From Belfast, Ireland.
graduate in Agricultural Chemistry ! and worked as a scientific editor for the Royal Society of
Chemistry, Cambridge, England and a musician
and songwriter. Now in East Africa writing a book! Oh yes this is a person with knowledge...
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How come you smart. intelligent, educated,
savvy dikheads never respond to these educated and serious journalists from the west, they are not Muslims so how come they have the capacity for truth but you don't? is it because your origins are criminal...???????
Mate - we can read the news anytime & what you cut and paste is just crap. The writer is crap.
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Russia supports Israel (Jew) & Syria (Shia) & turkey (Sunni) USA supports Saudi, Pak and
egypt (Sunni) and Iraq (Shia). There is no nexus or conspiracy - what's happened is Iran (Shia) & Saudi (Sunni) are at war and syria is the new
frontier after the sunni lost Iraq.
For the west & India, china, russia it's just positioning by the bonfire of Islam, lit by Islam,
fueled by Islam.
The islamic civil war, thats been going on for 1,400 years is now 'on tour' in syria - thats all*
And the writer of the article is your usual 2nd
rate Irish socialist scribbler of fad conspiracy mumbo to the third world ignorant & heathen.
In fact looks like he is out of work and paid to write crap for Arabs.
You want real news and proper info ?
you couldnt even read it you monkey.
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*And all dat killing and all dem ondreds of mullions of musilims killeng etch udder - n' all
because dat Aisha was a diurty slut, aghhh,
And den she poisoned her old man Muhammad,
to be sure, to be sure! Irish Saudi News.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#40702 Jun 21, 2013
MUQ struggles wrote:
<quoted text>
MUQ you only know how to lie. Badly. To yourself. There are no secrets here & you arent dealing with it very well at all.
Firstly there were a number of questions.
One was regarding the factual history of mecca & the false claim of Islam.
Now you make the claim that Mecca & the Quran are eternal.
So on your own twisted logic, where the onus is on you to prove your above claim - prove it.
Show or cite any Pre Islamic history or evidence (and not stale & clearly corrupted Islamic
citations or inventions, but actual factual recorded history & records).
Anything that shows Mecca existed before 150ad and back to 2,700 bc will be helpful, so that you can validate the claim you are making.
Whenever MUQ is dismissed from his job he can become a spin doctor for a political party.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#40703 Jun 21, 2013
oinkoinkbuster wrote:
Control and dominance are the two words that make sense of this. These are exercised by political, economic and military design, of which mass surveillance is an essential part, but also by insinuating propaganda into the public consciousness. This was Edward Bernays’s point. His two most successful PR campaigns convinced Americans that they should go to war in 1917 and persuaded women to smoke in public; cigarettes were “torches of freedom” that would hasten women’s liberation.
It is in popular culture that the fraudulent “ideal” of America as morally superior, a “leader of the free world”, has been most effective. Yet even during Hollywood’s most jingoistic periods there were exceptional films, such as those of the exiled Stanley Kubrick, and adventurous European films would find US distributors. These days there is no Kubrick, no Strangelove, and the US market is almost closed to foreign films.
When I showed my own film The War on Democracy to a major, liberal-minded US distributor, I was handed a laundry list of changes, to “ensure the movie is acceptable”. His memorable sop to me was:“OK, maybe we could drop in Sean Penn as narrator. Would that satisfy you?” Kathryn Bigelow’s torture-apologising Zero Dark Thirty and, this year, Alex Gibney’s We Steal Secrets, a cinematic hatchet job on Julian Assange, were made with generous backing by Universal Studios, whose parent company until recently was General Electric. GE manufactures weapons, components for fighter aircraft and advanced surveillance technology. The company also has lucrative interests in “liberated” Iraq.
The power of truth-tellers such as Bradley Manning, Julian Assange and Edward Snowden is that they dispel a whole mythology carefully constructed by the corporate cinema and the corporate media. WikiLeaks is especially dangerous because it provides truthtellers with a means to get the truth out. This was achieved by Collateral Damage, the cockpit video of a US Apache helicopter allegedly leaked by Manning. The impact of this one video marked Manning and Assange for state vengeance. Here were US airmen murdering journalists and maiming children in a Baghdad street, clearly enjoying it, and describing their atrocity as “nice”. Yet, in one vital sense, they did not get away with it; for we are all witnesses now, and the rest is up to us.
John Pilger’s film on Australia, Utopia, will be released in the autumn.
At last you make some sense .
oinkoinkbuster

East Maitland, Australia

#40704 Jun 21, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
At last you make some sense .
Absolutely don't need your approval pig muncher, I am very comfortable with my sense, you see unlike you, lard hasn't clogged my brain arteries LLOL

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#40705 Jun 21, 2013
oinkoinkbuster wrote:
<quoted text>
Absolutely don't need your approval pig muncher, I am very comfortable with my sense, you see unlike you, lard hasn't clogged my brain arteries LLOL
I didn't say you had sense I said at last you posted something sensible,don't get too carried away (lol)
Chuck a pig on a spit,you'll feel much better.
Good article

Australia

#40706 Jun 21, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't say you had sense I said at last you posted something sensible,don't get too carried away (lol)
Chuck a pig on a spit,you'll feel much better.
I also think the machine gunning of Muslims from a helicopter is 'nice'(article) so it was a good post. Any machine gunning of muslims (they are all guilty and so a valid target) fills us with pleasure. Awesome how easy we can kill them.
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So yes a great post, nothing like a good "death from the sky" movie by pilger wringing his hands as we cheer on our boys to wreak devastation and misery to our enemy.
I would like to see some video from the drones ls and missiles as well as the helicopter gunships.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#40707 Jun 21, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

Beyond Bayonets and Battleships
Space Warfare and the Future of U.S. Global Power

By Alfred W. McCoy
(Contd.)

Launched as an experimental, unarmed surveillance aircraft in 1994, the Predator drone was first deployed in 2000 for combat surveillance under the CIA’s “Operation Afghan Eyes.” By 2011, the advanced MQ-9 Reaper drone, with “persistent hunter killer” capabilities, was heavily armed with missiles and bombs as well as sensors that could read disturbed dirt at 5,000 feet and track footprints back to enemy installations. Indicating the torrid pace of drone development, between 2004 and 2010 total flying time for all unmanned vehicles rose from just 71 hours to 250,000 hours.

By 2009, the Air Force and the CIA were already deploying a drone armada of at least 195 Predators and 28 Reapers inside Afghanistan, Iraq, and Pakistan -- and it’s only grown since. These collected and transmitted 16,000 hours of video daily, and from 2006-2012 fired hundreds of Hellfire missiles that killed an estimated 2,600 supposed insurgents inside Pakistan’s tribal areas. Though the second-generation Reaper drones might seem stunningly sophisticated, one defense analyst has called them “very much Model T Fords.” Beyond the battlefield, there are now some 7,000 drones in the U.S. armada of unmanned aircraft, including 800 larger missile-firing drones. By funding its own fleet of 35 drones and borrowing others from the Air Force, the CIA has moved beyond passive intelligence collection to build a permanent robotic paramilitary capacity.

In the same years, another form of information warfare came, quite literally, online. Over two administrations, there has been continuity in the development of a cyberwarfare capability at home and abroad. Starting in 2002, President George W. Bush illegally authorized the National Security Agency to scan countless millions of electronic messages with its top-secret “Pinwale” database. Similarly, the FBI started an Investigative Data Warehouse that, by 2009, held a billion individual records.

Under Presidents Bush and Obama, defensive digital surveillance has grown into an offensive “cyberwarfare” capacity, which has already been deployed against Iran in history’s first significant cyberwar. In 2009, the Pentagon formed U.S. Cyber Command (CYBERCOM), with headquarters at Ft. Meade, Maryland, and a cyberwarfare center at Lackland Air Base in Texas, staffed by 7,000 Air Force employees. Two years later, it declared cyberspace an “operational domain” like air, land, or sea, and began putting its energy into developing a cadre of cyber-warriors capable of launching offensive operations, such as a variety of attacks on the computerized centrifuges in Iran’s nuclear facilities and Middle Eastern banks handling Iranian money.

A Robotic Information Regime

As with the Philippine Insurrection and the Vietnam War, the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan have served as the catalyst for a new information regime, fusing aerospace, cyberspace, biometrics, and robotics into an apparatus of potentially unprecedented power. In 2012, after years of ground warfare in both countries and the continuous expansion of the Pentagon budget, the Obama administration announced a leaner future defense strategy. It included a 14% cut in future infantry strength to be compensated for by an increased emphasis on investments in the dominions of outer space and cyberspace, particularly in what the administration calls “critical space-based capabilities.”

MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#40708 Jun 21, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Enlighten the world by providing your proof that Makkah existed before 150 then just maybe you may wear the "expert" tag yourself.
No let us first hear and see the "proofs" of those who say Makkah existed in 150 CE.

Then you will see how fragile is their proofs and how childish are their claims and how they "decide" on matters connected with other people.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#40709 Jun 21, 2013
MUQ struggles wrote:
<quoted text>
MUQ you only know how to lie. Badly. To yourself. There are no secrets here & you arent dealing with it very well at all.
Firstly there were a number of questions.
One was regarding the factual history of mecca & the false claim of Islam.
Now you make the claim that Mecca & the Quran are eternal.
So on your own twisted logic, where the onus is on you to prove your above claim - prove it.
Show or cite any Pre Islamic history or evidence (and not stale & clearly corrupted Islamic
citations or inventions, but actual factual recorded history & records).
Anything that shows Mecca existed before 150ad and back to 2,700 bc will be helpful, so that you can validate the claim you are making.
Who made the claim that Makkah was "eternal"?

And what proofs you have that Makkah existed only in 150 CE.

Bring out the proofs, why are you hiding them?

Just makings claims is not going to help you, will it?
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#40710 Jun 21, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Who made the claim that Makkah was "eternal"?
And what proofs you have that Makkah existed only in 150 CE.
Bring out the proofs, why are you hiding them?
Just makings claims is not going to help you, will it?
Bring out the proofs there is an allah or that he exists or that there ever was one!!

Just making claims doesn't help you at all !!
Show us he loves Muslims or does he want them all killed because they are sure killing each other!!
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#40711 Jun 21, 2013
Serpent wrote:
<quoted text>
Bring out the proofs there is an allah or that he exists or that there ever was one!!
Just making claims doesn't help you at all !!
Show us he loves Muslims or does he want them all killed because they are sure killing each other!!
The proofs that Allah Exists are in billions!! Every thing, living or Non Living in this whole Universe is a Proof that their Creator Exists.

Allah loves every one who follows on His guidelines, he does not love any one simply because he or she has a name like Muslim. Unless their beliefs and actions are like true Muslims, Allah does not love them.

Any one killing any innocent human, Muslim or Non Muslim, is a criminal in the eyes of Allah. He will not just pardon that the person killing has a name like a Muslim.

Islam and Muslims are state of beliefs, not a label that one puts on his or her forehead.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#40712 Jun 22, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
No let us first hear and see the "proofs" of those who say Makkah existed in 150 CE.
Then you will see how fragile is their proofs and how childish are their claims and how they "decide" on matters connected with other people.
Don't you make enough comment connected with other people ?
I suppose the old saying that attack is the best form of defence is clearly seen on these threads .
Can you provide a link as to when Makkah was established otherwise this conversation will never see an end ?

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#40713 Jun 22, 2013
MUQ, where did Muslims men get the idea of growing facial hair ?

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#40714 Jun 22, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
MUQ, where did Muslims men get the idea of growing facial hair ?
They didn't have any say in the matter it just grew on them. LOL
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#40715 Jun 22, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't you make enough comment connected with other people ?
I suppose the old saying that attack is the best form of defence is clearly seen on these threads .
Can you provide a link as to when Makkah was established otherwise this conversation will never see an end ?
1. No I first want to see the proof of those who insist Makkah only existed at 150 CE.

Let us see the ground on which they stand.

2. I leave most of comments addressed to me!! It is very rarely that I would comment on some one else' message.

If I see some thing very illogical in their posts, I intervene, otherwise I let go most posts.

Did you see me answering any of that Baron Guy's posts addressed to me?
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#40716 Jun 22, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
MUQ, where did Muslims men get the idea of growing facial hair ?
Check Jesus' statues hanging in every Church. I have not yet seen any one without beard. Have you?

May be another "crazy idea" to imitate Moses, Jesus and Mohammad, Peace of Allah be on all of them!!

“Turn left at pub Number 42”

Since: Dec 08

Homehill,QLD

#40717 Jun 22, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
MUQ, where did Muslims men get the idea of growing facial hair ?
Monkey see monkey do

Mohammed had a beard
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#40718 Jun 22, 2013
PS:

See the difference in my answer versus our Shielaa the Great.

The depth of her Hatred shows no bottom.

What a perfect Florence Nightingale she would have made in Crimean War!!

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#40719 Jun 22, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
1. No I first want to see the proof of those who insist Makkah only existed at 150 CE.
Let us see the ground on which they stand.
2. I leave most of comments addressed to me!! It is very rarely that I would comment on some one else' message.
If I see some thing very illogical in their posts, I intervene, otherwise I let go most posts.
Did you see me answering any of that Baron Guy's posts addressed to me?
There are many of your comments I skip over as well .

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#40720 Jun 22, 2013
MUQ wrote:
PS:
See the difference in my answer versus our Shielaa the Great.
The depth of her Hatred shows no bottom.
What a perfect Florence Nightingale she would have made in Crimean War!!
See how MUG shows us all what a liar he is? Here is what he posted

"I leave most of comments addressed to me!! It is very rarely that I would comment on some one else' message"

...and yet he feels compelled to respond to mine even though I am such a "hater". I have his number and he knows it and that is why he responds.

I show Islam for the violent ideology that it is and he comes onto other forums to count how many posts I make to others elsewhere. That is how much he doesn't care what I post. LMAO

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