Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46820 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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Justin

United States

#39099 May 3, 2013
Muslims fear Muslims.

Why are they immigrating to the US and Australia?

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#39100 May 3, 2013
MalbarCACA Controllers wrote:
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Hello CASTRATO.
Where are those tables?
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Castrato is what we will do in Australia to your Muslims family and friends in less than 25 years if they choose to stay in Australia, and do not want to be returned back to one of the Muslim countries.
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I am sure that once Great Britain realise that it works they be copying what Australia is doing, and you be a Castrato.
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Canada will follow Australia for sure.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#39102 May 3, 2013
immigrant wrote:
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let me assure you the west is completely powerless to defeat Muslims, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan is sufficient proof.
1.5 billion Muslims are not going to vanish anywhere and they are far stronger in faith and numbers than post-Christianity nations who are rapidly declining economically, morally and militarily.
Unhygienic way of life will kill off millions of Muslims.
Fighting amongst your self will kill off more millions.
Lack of water will kill off more millions.
Lack of food will kill off more millions.
The day the Western countries decide we had enough of the crap that the Islamic countries are doing world wide, all the West has to do is drop one little unknown bacteria into the masses of Muslim and there goes an other 1/2 billion Muslim.
Read what the Japanese did in the 1940's.
During the past century, more than 500 million people died of infectious diseases. Several tens of thousands of these deaths were due to the deliberate release of pathogens or toxins, mostly by the Japanese during their attacks on China during the Second World War.
Simple things like Small pox you Muslims are immunised for such.
Or the bird flu may be a good idea.
We in the west have more than enough Vaccine storage immunisation for each and every living person in the West to immunise them.
The day the West decides bye bye Muslims we had enough of you, is when some crazy leader will decide to use it against you.
I am certain there be others who think like Hitler hiding amongst us in the West who will decide enough is enough, and start killing off Muslims.
Holland already has a small thinking Hitler that goes by the name of Geert Wilders.
The USA also have a few small thinking Hitlers, their names are Pamela Geller and Brigitte Gabriel
Australia also has a small thinking Hitler goes by the Name Geoff Dickson.
Nearly every country in the west have either 1 or more small thinking Hitlers.
The peace loving people who live in the West are still being brain washed to believe that Islam is a religion of peace, same as what Muhammad did 1400 years ago.
Listen to this lady.
"immigrant"
http://www.tennessean.com/VideoNetwork/127123...
immigrant wrote:
Unlike other people who were overwhelmed by western intrigue (read divide and rule policy) treachery and firepower, Muslims will continue to fight back UN or no UN,
We in the West have already divided you Muslims.
Into many different so called peace loving cults.
We have also divided you into rich and poor.
The poor live under the Sharia laws the rich live under the Western laws.
The Rich Muslims can drink alcohol
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#39103 May 3, 2013
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What Does It Mean To Be a Slave?

A Few Questions to Ask….

By Eric Peters

September 10, 2012 "Information Clearing House" -- Debating the merits of a particular government policy or proposal with authoritarian-minded political opponents is pointless – if you’re hoping to persuade, at any rate. Far better to ask them a few apparently simple questions – and force them to confront the disquieting answers about the authoritarian nature of the political and social system they support.

For instance, you might ask what their view of slavery is. Is it morally wrong to own another human being? Probably, they will say it is wrong. Now ask: What does it mean to be a slave? Usually, they will tell you it means being the property of another. Now ask the killer follow-up: What does it mean to be the property of another?

Point out that it means having control over another person’s life – control of his actual person, his body. His mind, even.

To be in a position – to be entitled – to use violence to enforce compliance.
A slave is not at liberty to act as he wishes to act. He must do as he is told – and if he does not, he can expect physical punishment and that punishment will not be considered assault. The slave must accept his punishment.

There is no appeal, no recourse. He must bow low and submit – or risk the repercussions, which ultimately include death.

His only hope is escape.

The slave, most obviously, owns nothing – because he controls nothing. He may be allowed to use things. But the owner of these things – himself included – is someone else. Someone else gets to say yes – or no. When – and where. How – and how much. The slave has no real say – in that he is never in a position to say no. Not without consequences raining down upon him.
He merely obeys. Because he must obey.

The fact that his hands may hold the scythe does not mean the scythe is his. The fact that the effort of his body cuts the wheat does not mean the wheat is his. He is permitted to keep a portion. In principle, because in fact, the slave owns nothing that may not be taken away from him. At any time, for any reason. And he is powerless to do anything about it.

The slave’s dwelling, the clothes he wears – even his very body – are subject to arbitrary control against his will by another person or persons. This is the essence of what it means to be a slave.

Be sure your opponent accepts these points – which he must accept, because to not accept them is not unlike refusing to accept that 2 + 2 = four.

Now ask him whether he (or anyone else he knows) is free to determine the course of his own life. Or do others set down terms and conditions which he must obey?

Is he free to do business with whomever he chooses to do business? Or is he told exactly with whom he must do business – and under what conditions?
May he travel freely? Or is he required to travel with permission – and only under certain conditions? Must he carry ownership papers with him wherever he goes? And is it not true that if he is caught without these papers, he is subject to arrest and imprisonment for that reason alone?
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#39104 May 3, 2013
sid wrote:
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Best thing to do when you've dug a hole you can't get out of is to stop digging.
Translation.
Stop talking shit.
You should practice first what you say to others. Do you know what talking sh**t is?
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#39105 May 3, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Hello MUQ ,seeing as you say morals are of man ,what sayeth that towards god's way ?
Does god have morals ?
God has every quality in perfection. He is the source of Morals, so the question is itself not justified to ask if God has morals.

Whatever morality we see in the world is remnants of what prophets taught to their followers.

Without scriptures there is no other source of morality in the world and no one can prove or justify any moral principle.

All their arguments are flawed and not defendable.

Fear of God and fear of personal accountability on the last day are the "Only" true forces for people to use Moral principles.
Godless Goodness

Trivandrum, India

#39106 May 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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God has every quality in perfection. He is the source of Morals, so the question is itself not justified to ask if God has morals.
Whatever morality we see in the world is remnants of what prophets taught to their followers.
Without scriptures there is no other source of morality in the world and no one can prove or justify any moral principle.
All their arguments are flawed and not defendable.
Fear of God and fear of personal accountability on the last day are the "Only" true forces for people to use Moral principles.
I never believed in a god. Thirteen recorded generations of my Hindu family did not believe in a god or gods. Always rejected the idea of a creator of all things, a planner of all things, simply because of the lack of evidence or supporting logic. And without that god is just make belief.
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But all my ancestors were good stand up people, mostly very learned, very civilized and law (dharma) abiding. The focus on being good is of the highest priority to me. We follow man made laws (Dharma) that are designed (continuously rationalized) to make society good, peaceful, happy and progressive. We have learned to be good for a reason, that reason is simply our own well being is always tied to my brothers' and neighbors' well being in the long run. Individual well being is tied to societies well being. What goes around comes around. If I rob I'll get robbed too, If I hate crime on others, others will hate crime on me back. Will result in a lack of peace, progress and happiness for everybody including for me. That is the logic of being good, god or no god.
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Our Karma (action) must be according to Dharma (laws thought out that ensure goodness)||
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There is another source of our goodness: and that is LOVE, that causes us to sacrifice our well being for another's well being ||
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The very human qualities of LOGIC (rational thought) and LOVE are the source of goodness for many of us of the goodless kind.
Godless Goodness

Trivandrum, India

#39107 May 3, 2013
The problem is when the people in a society are very savage and violent, you can't go and reason with them abut the logics of being good- for to reason with humans you need a finite amount of time. And you will get killed long before the reasons or logic takes hold (percolates) in sufficient numbers of people to make it safe for you.

So God and fear of God is required initially, as FEAR takes hold instantly. Then in time said society will be peaceful and mature and gentle enough to see the benefits of being good (and understand reason to follow laws that enforce goodness). LOGIC and LOVE flow more freely in humans in certain environments!

And you still need fear of punishments to counter greed, another very human attribute. And to tackle the deviant few.
alfie

Rhodes, Australia

#39108 May 3, 2013
Australian cattle exports to Egypt halted because of cruelty. Just how dumb are our officials anyway? All Muslim countries we export livestock to are going to do this, they are barbarians & will kill them slowly & cruelly under Halal slaughter rules. All the officials allowing live export to Islamic countries should be charged with animal cruelty.
Godless Goodness

Trivandrum, India

#39109 May 3, 2013
Godless Goodness wrote:
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...We have learned to be good for a reason, that reason is simply our own well being is always tied to my brothers' and neighbors' well being in the long run. Individual well being is tied to societies well being. What goes around comes around. If I rob I'll get robbed too, If I hate crime on others, others will hate crime on me back. Will result in a lack of peace, progress and happiness for everybody including for me. That is the logic of being good, god or no god.
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Our Karma (action) must be according to Dharma (laws thought out that ensure goodness)||
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There is another source of our goodness: and that is LOVE, that causes us to sacrifice our well being for another's well being ||
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The very human qualities of LOGIC (rational thought) and LOVE are the source of goodness for many of us of the goodless kind.
OOPS! Sorry. Typo in the second last word

I meant godless kind (not goodless kind).

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#39110 May 4, 2013
immigrant wrote:
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Does that include western nations, their criminal Zionist owners and stooge nations who willingly and consciously indulge in combined murder of innocent women and children, or is your UN vision limited to enmity towards Muslims only?
In fact Israel has broken more UN resolutions that any other in UN history This country also has the benefit that their biggest ally, the USA, will veto any serious resolution against them preventing any action from being carried out. Does this seem right or fair?
Was the UN designed only to be a tool to be used by the powerful to legitimize it’s actions?
let me assure you the west is completely powerless to defeat Muslims, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan is sufficient proof.
1.5 billion Muslims are not going to vanish anywhere and they are far stronger in faith and numbers than post-Christianity nations who are rapidly declining economically, morally and militarily.
Unlike other people who were overwhelmed by western intrigue (read divide and rule policy) treachery and firepower, Muslims will continue to fight back UN or no UN, as time goes by they will continue to develop indigenous weaponry like Iran and Pakistan, this frightens the west because they know they have committed crimes against humanity.
The current UN is a joke and will not last long, going by examples of human history I see great violence up ahead because the west will not give up its "sheriff of the world" status without a fight, but so far all their military misadventures have ended in humiliation and defeat and that doesn't bode well for world peace.
To answer your question,the UN needs sharper teeth to keep all member states in line so they don't do as you say.
The state of Islam is it's own worst enemy going on it's own history no doubt you personally know about.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#39111 May 4, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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God has every quality in perfection. He is the source of Morals, so the question is itself not justified to ask if God has morals.
Whatever morality we see in the world is remnants of what prophets taught to their followers.
Without scriptures there is no other source of morality in the world and no one can prove or justify any moral principle.
All their arguments are flawed and not defendable.
Fear of God and fear of personal accountability on the last day are the "Only" true forces for people to use Moral principles.
Why then do people's have to get their morals from religion instead of directly from god when they are born ?
MUQ lost

Australia

#39112 May 4, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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God has every quality in perfection. He is the source of Morals, so the question is itself not justified to ask if God has morals.
Whatever morality we see in the world is remnants of what prophets taught to their followers.
Without scriptures there is no other source of morality in the world and no one can prove or justify any moral principle.
All their arguments are flawed and not defendable.
Fear of God and fear of personal accountability
on the last day are the "Only" true forces for people to use Moral principles.
MUQ if you think that then why are you Muslim?
Islam worships a false god, Allah is the moon god of the qareesh. Only Islam worships a black stone 'fallen from heaven, pieces of allahs face'.
Only Islam worships the lord of the Kaaba, the ghost or jinn devil spirit of Hubal, the idol who Allah was worshipped thru, until Hubal was replaced by Muhammad as a human idol and
Allah's messenger.
Net : Islam is godless, Allah is an Arab tribe pagan moon god that has no ears or mouth.
Deaf and mute ever since Muhammad was poisoned off by Aisha, that was the end of any communication. Uthman then wrote the Quran and burnt all the other versions including muhammads.. So the Quran is false also.
If you believe in a higher god, then Islam isn't fir you. Your an Indian slave born as a prisoner into it. If your not Arab, you can't even go to heaven under Islam.

So it's a bit odd for you to be waffling on about god and righteousness, when you are a prisoner in a belief system that has no god, worships objects & false idols, has a corrupted book of falsehood copied from others, and has a heaven reserved only for tribal Arabs...
MalbarCACA Controllers

UK

#39113 May 4, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Since: Nov 08

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#39114 May 4, 2013
alfie wrote:
Australian cattle exports to Egypt halted because of cruelty. Just how dumb are our officials anyway? All Muslim countries we export livestock to are going to do this, they are barbarians & will kill them slowly & cruelly under Halal slaughter rules. All the officials allowing live export to Islamic countries should be charged with animal cruelty.
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Do you really think the cow ask itself if he had a choice what way would he/she like to be killed?
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Killed the Christian way or the Halal way?
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Hamburgers made the Christian way of killing or the Muslim way of killing both are cruel.
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Become a Tibetan Buddhist they kill nothing, not even a gnat.
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What make anyone think they have the rights to kill something their God created.

Since: Nov 08

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#39115 May 4, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Why then do people's have to get their morals from religion instead of directly from god when they are born ?
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Maybe the reason is: There is no God.
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Religions made God, the next best thing is to get you so called Morals from religions.
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Just read in the attached link how powerful God is.
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http://nakedlaw.avvo.com/celebrities/6-outrag...
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Islam is no better, you should make the effort of going to a few Middle eastern Countries, and you will see wealth beyond your comprehension and you will see Muslims begging for food, in the same country (Egypt is a very good example) or the neighbouring country.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#39116 May 4, 2013
MalbarCACA Controllers wrote:
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Who cares?
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You WILL !
MalbarCACA Controllers

UK

#39117 May 4, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#39118 May 4, 2013
Baron44 wrote:
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Maybe the reason is: There is no God.
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Religions made God, the next best thing is to get you so called Morals from religions.
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Just read in the attached link how powerful God is.
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http://nakedlaw.avvo.com/celebrities/6-outrag...
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Islam is no better, you should make the effort of going to a few Middle eastern Countries, and you will see wealth beyond your comprehension and you will see Muslims begging for food, in the same country (Egypt is a very good example) or the neighbouring country.
I have been to the Middle East and have seen as you say
MalbarCACA Controllers

UK

#39119 May 4, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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