Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46812 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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alfie

Rhodes, Australia

#39108 May 3, 2013
Australian cattle exports to Egypt halted because of cruelty. Just how dumb are our officials anyway? All Muslim countries we export livestock to are going to do this, they are barbarians & will kill them slowly & cruelly under Halal slaughter rules. All the officials allowing live export to Islamic countries should be charged with animal cruelty.
Godless Goodness

Trivandrum, India

#39109 May 3, 2013
Godless Goodness wrote:
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...We have learned to be good for a reason, that reason is simply our own well being is always tied to my brothers' and neighbors' well being in the long run. Individual well being is tied to societies well being. What goes around comes around. If I rob I'll get robbed too, If I hate crime on others, others will hate crime on me back. Will result in a lack of peace, progress and happiness for everybody including for me. That is the logic of being good, god or no god.
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Our Karma (action) must be according to Dharma (laws thought out that ensure goodness)||
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There is another source of our goodness: and that is LOVE, that causes us to sacrifice our well being for another's well being ||
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The very human qualities of LOGIC (rational thought) and LOVE are the source of goodness for many of us of the goodless kind.
OOPS! Sorry. Typo in the second last word

I meant godless kind (not goodless kind).

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#39110 May 4, 2013
immigrant wrote:
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Does that include western nations, their criminal Zionist owners and stooge nations who willingly and consciously indulge in combined murder of innocent women and children, or is your UN vision limited to enmity towards Muslims only?
In fact Israel has broken more UN resolutions that any other in UN history This country also has the benefit that their biggest ally, the USA, will veto any serious resolution against them preventing any action from being carried out. Does this seem right or fair?
Was the UN designed only to be a tool to be used by the powerful to legitimize it’s actions?
let me assure you the west is completely powerless to defeat Muslims, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan is sufficient proof.
1.5 billion Muslims are not going to vanish anywhere and they are far stronger in faith and numbers than post-Christianity nations who are rapidly declining economically, morally and militarily.
Unlike other people who were overwhelmed by western intrigue (read divide and rule policy) treachery and firepower, Muslims will continue to fight back UN or no UN, as time goes by they will continue to develop indigenous weaponry like Iran and Pakistan, this frightens the west because they know they have committed crimes against humanity.
The current UN is a joke and will not last long, going by examples of human history I see great violence up ahead because the west will not give up its "sheriff of the world" status without a fight, but so far all their military misadventures have ended in humiliation and defeat and that doesn't bode well for world peace.
To answer your question,the UN needs sharper teeth to keep all member states in line so they don't do as you say.
The state of Islam is it's own worst enemy going on it's own history no doubt you personally know about.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#39111 May 4, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
God has every quality in perfection. He is the source of Morals, so the question is itself not justified to ask if God has morals.
Whatever morality we see in the world is remnants of what prophets taught to their followers.
Without scriptures there is no other source of morality in the world and no one can prove or justify any moral principle.
All their arguments are flawed and not defendable.
Fear of God and fear of personal accountability on the last day are the "Only" true forces for people to use Moral principles.
Why then do people's have to get their morals from religion instead of directly from god when they are born ?
MUQ lost

Australia

#39112 May 4, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
God has every quality in perfection. He is the source of Morals, so the question is itself not justified to ask if God has morals.
Whatever morality we see in the world is remnants of what prophets taught to their followers.
Without scriptures there is no other source of morality in the world and no one can prove or justify any moral principle.
All their arguments are flawed and not defendable.
Fear of God and fear of personal accountability
on the last day are the "Only" true forces for people to use Moral principles.
MUQ if you think that then why are you Muslim?
Islam worships a false god, Allah is the moon god of the qareesh. Only Islam worships a black stone 'fallen from heaven, pieces of allahs face'.
Only Islam worships the lord of the Kaaba, the ghost or jinn devil spirit of Hubal, the idol who Allah was worshipped thru, until Hubal was replaced by Muhammad as a human idol and
Allah's messenger.
Net : Islam is godless, Allah is an Arab tribe pagan moon god that has no ears or mouth.
Deaf and mute ever since Muhammad was poisoned off by Aisha, that was the end of any communication. Uthman then wrote the Quran and burnt all the other versions including muhammads.. So the Quran is false also.
If you believe in a higher god, then Islam isn't fir you. Your an Indian slave born as a prisoner into it. If your not Arab, you can't even go to heaven under Islam.

So it's a bit odd for you to be waffling on about god and righteousness, when you are a prisoner in a belief system that has no god, worships objects & false idols, has a corrupted book of falsehood copied from others, and has a heaven reserved only for tribal Arabs...
MalbarCACA Controllers

UK

#39113 May 4, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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101010101010
Who cares?

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Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#39114 May 4, 2013
alfie wrote:
Australian cattle exports to Egypt halted because of cruelty. Just how dumb are our officials anyway? All Muslim countries we export livestock to are going to do this, they are barbarians & will kill them slowly & cruelly under Halal slaughter rules. All the officials allowing live export to Islamic countries should be charged with animal cruelty.
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Do you really think the cow ask itself if he had a choice what way would he/she like to be killed?
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Killed the Christian way or the Halal way?
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Hamburgers made the Christian way of killing or the Muslim way of killing both are cruel.
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Become a Tibetan Buddhist they kill nothing, not even a gnat.
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What make anyone think they have the rights to kill something their God created.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#39115 May 4, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Why then do people's have to get their morals from religion instead of directly from god when they are born ?
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Maybe the reason is: There is no God.
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Religions made God, the next best thing is to get you so called Morals from religions.
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Just read in the attached link how powerful God is.
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http://nakedlaw.avvo.com/celebrities/6-outrag...
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Islam is no better, you should make the effort of going to a few Middle eastern Countries, and you will see wealth beyond your comprehension and you will see Muslims begging for food, in the same country (Egypt is a very good example) or the neighbouring country.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#39116 May 4, 2013
MalbarCACA Controllers wrote:
<quoted text>
Who cares?
No MalbarCACA IMPOSTOR, IDENTITY & Post THIEVES, Ades Bender sock puppet jimdians Sindian, Schleimscheißers, syphilitic malbar,
gobbledegook Muzzie monkey chharchhobi ladygirl chickyladyrentboys Gallahs post or oink oink oink discussion will be tolerated.
GO AWAY.
You WILL !
MalbarCACA Controllers

UK

#39117 May 4, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
10101010101010!
No MalbarCACA IMPOSTOR, IDENTITY & Post THIEVES, Ades Rogered Bender sock puppet jimdians Sindian, Schleimscheißers, syphilitic malbar,
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DISAPPEAR.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#39118 May 4, 2013
Baron44 wrote:
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Maybe the reason is: There is no God.
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Religions made God, the next best thing is to get you so called Morals from religions.
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Just read in the attached link how powerful God is.
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http://nakedlaw.avvo.com/celebrities/6-outrag...
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Islam is no better, you should make the effort of going to a few Middle eastern Countries, and you will see wealth beyond your comprehension and you will see Muslims begging for food, in the same country (Egypt is a very good example) or the neighbouring country.
I have been to the Middle East and have seen as you say
MalbarCACA Controllers

UK

#39119 May 4, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
1010101010101010
We are not interested in your urinal tours.

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“Member of Anti-Beady Alliance”

Since: Apr 13

Freiburg, Germany

#39120 May 4, 2013
MalbarCACA Controllers wrote:
<quoted text>
We are not interested in your urinal tours.
No MalbarCACA IMPOSTOR, IDENTITY & Post THIEVES, Ades Bender sock puppet jimdians Sindian, Schleimscheißers, syphilitic malbar,
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“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#39121 May 4, 2013
Mailbags Controllers wrote:
<quoted text>
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GO AWAY.
You're the one who conducts those guided tours so passionately.
Are you still showing everyone your toilet bowl cleaning technique of immersing your Afro head and spinning around and around .
unbelievable

Baulkham Hills, Australia

#39122 May 4, 2013
Oh rubbish. YOu obviously have not studied history throughout the ages if you are saying that white races have killed more than all other religions combined.NIce highlight on your Muslim fantaticism and racism.

Just for starters:
* 40,000,000 Red China, 1949-76 (outright killing, manmade famine, Gulag)

* 4,000,000 Ethiopia, 1962-92: Communists, artificial hunger, genocides

* 3,900,000 Zaire (Congo-Kinshasa): 1967-68; 1977-78; 1992-95; 1998-present

* 2,800,000 Korean war, 1950-53

* 1,900,000 Sudan, 1955-72; 1983-2006 (civil wars, genocides)

* 1,970,000 Cambodia: Khmer Rouge 1975-79; civil war 1978-91

* 1,800,000 Vietnam War, 1954-75

* 1,800,000 Afghanistan: Soviet and internecine killings, Taliban 1980-2001

1* 1,450,000 West Pakistan massacres in East Pakistan (Bangladesh 1971)

1* 1,400,000 Nigeria, 1966-79 (Biafra); 1993-present

1* 1,100,000 Mozambique, 1964-70 (30,000)+ after retreat of Portugal 1976-92

*1,500,000 Iran-Iraq-War, 1980-88

*900,000 Rwanda genocide, 1994

15 875,000 Algeria: against France 1954-62 (675,000); between Islamists and the government 1991-2006 (200,000)

* 850,000 Uganda, 1971-79; 1981-85; 1994-present

* 650,000 Indonesia: Marxists 1965-66 (450,000); East Timor, Papua, Aceh etc, 1969-present (200,000)

* 580,000 Angola: war against Portugal 1961-72 (80,000); after Portugal’s retreat (1972-2002)

* 500,000 Brazil against its Indians, up to 1999

* 430,000 Vietnam, after the war ended in 1975 (own people; boat refugees)

* 400,000 Indochina: against France, 1945-54

* 400,000 Burundi, 1959-present (Tutsi/Hutu)

* 700,000 Somalia, 1991-present

* 700,000 North Korea up to present (own people)

* 350,000 Kurds in Iraq, Iran, Turkey, 1980s-1900,000 Iraq, 1970-2003 (Saddam against minorities)

* 190,000 Lebanon civil war, 1975-90

*90,000 Iran, 1978-79 (revolution)

*29,000 Jordan government vs. Palestinians, 1970-71 (Black September)

*20,000 Syria, 1982 (against Islamists in Hama)

* 70,000 Syrians dead and counting, present internal conflict.

---more lists, but I've run out of space and energy!

You don't even value your own blood though, so how can any sane person expect you to value anybody elses. Take westerners out of the equasion, you will still kill each other with regular montony, you have been responsible for more of your own deaths in this modern era than any western influence.
The usual muslim banging on about Drones killing (and yes, unfortunatley they sometimes kill innocent civilians) when your own murder rate makes the drones look tame.

NINETY PERCENT OF THE ELEVEN MILLION MUSLIMS WHO HAVE DIED SINCE 1948 HAS BEEN BY EACH OTHER'S MUSLIM HANDS!! Maybe you should CONVINCE OTHER MUSLIMS OF YOUR PEACEFUL RELIGION NOT US WESTERNERS! "

Again, this is merely an inconvenient truth to a rabid brainwashed type muslim.
Islam fail

Sydney, Australia

#39123 May 4, 2013
MUQ lost wrote:
<quoted text>
MUQ if you think that then why are you Muslim?
Islam worships a false god, Allah is the moon god of the qareesh. Only Islam worships a black stone 'fallen from heaven, pieces of allahs face'.
Only Islam worships the lord of the Kaaba, the ghost or jinn devil spirit of Hubal, the idol who Allah was worshipped thru, until Hubal was replaced by Muhammad as a human idol and
Allah's messenger.
Net : Islam is godless, Allah is an Arab tribe pagan moon god that has no ears or mouth.
Deaf and mute ever since Muhammad was poisoned off by Aisha, that was the end of any
communication. Uthman then wrote the Quran and burnt all the other versions including muhammads.. So the Quran is false also.

If you believe in a higher god, then Islam isn't fir you. Your an Indian slave born as a prisoner into it. If your not Arab, you can't even go to heaven under Islam.
So it's a bit odd for you to be waffling on about god and righteousness, when you are a prisoner
in a belief system that has no god, worships objects & false idols, has a corrupted book of falsehood copied from others, and has a heaven reserved only for tribal Arabs...
Yes, it's quite odd for an 'indian to be defending
Islam, they were given Pakistan & Bangladesh for that nonsense. You know the Indian Muslims also have the caste system as well, so they believe there are superior and inferior sub species of humans. The ones at the bottom of Indian Islam (Dalit ?) are treated like they are non human dogs by other Muslims.
So no common god or equality in Indian Muslim, if anything it's worse than the Hindu for racism and inequality.
And the Indian Muslims also worship Indian gods & objects which is a big sin in Islam, so every Arab Muslim is taught that an Indian Muslim is unclean and spreads sin & disease.
Every Arab Muslim HAS TO WASH themselves if they come on contact with an Indian Muslim.
Obviously Allah's heaven is for Arabs only.
They tell you that.
Funny how any Indian would bother with Islam, let alone spruik the nonsense / when it rejects them entirely.
On a similiar note. One of the key Pakastani political parties is going to the polls on the platform that all non Sunni Muslims (ie Shia) in Pakistan are to be declared 'non Muslim's.
Yes, you heard that right.
The sunni's believe the Shia are their real enemy and by declaring them 'non Muslim's - like the Mongol based Hazara people, are declaring war on them.
There is no Allah. The allah moon is not a god. The borrowed gods & prophets of islam never supported islam. In fact, Jesus warned there would be such impostors, and devil worshippers such as Muhammad with false writings such as the Quran.
Islam fails everywhere. Godless.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#39124 May 4, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Why then do people's have to get their morals from religion instead of directly from god when they are born ?
Then "every one" become the "source of Moral" and there will be "perfect chaos" in the world.

But there are something which are "inherently present" in most of humans.

Like stealing is bad, like killing innocent people is bad, like fornication and adultery is bad, telling lies is bad. These are basic things which are present in subconscious of every humans and they have been planted there by God their Creator.

But finer points and regulations are sent thru prophets and messengers, to maintain peace and order in the society.

Allah Knows Best.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#39125 May 4, 2013
GG wrote:
01. I never believed in a god. Thirteen recorded generations of my Hindu family did not believe in a god or gods...
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02. But all my ancestors were good stand up people, mostly very learned, very civilized and law (dharma) abiding...

03. We have learned to be good for a reason, that reason is simply our own well being is always tied to my ..

04. If I rob I'll get robbed too, If I hate crime on others, others will hate crime on me back...
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Our Karma (action) must be according to Dharma (laws thought out that ensure goodness)||
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05. There is another source of our goodness: and that is LOVE,..

06. The problem is when the people in a society are very savage and violent, you can't go and reason with them abut the logics of being good- for to reason with humans you need a finite amount of time.

07. So God and fear of God is required initially, as FEAR takes hold instantly...

08. And you still need fear of punishments to counter greed, another very human attribute. And to tackle the deviant few.
Ans.

01. I am glad to know that you are your thirteen preceding generations did not believe in any god or any creator or any revelation. But still you fill your religion as "Hindu" in all your official records. Is this True?

How you rate that action on Morality Scale of 1 to 10?

02. What is the purpose of Dharma and good conduct if there is no god? How your Dharma following is going to help you?

03. If you have any knowledge of the world, the good does not always come back to you as good.

You see the people who are wealthiest and hold the post of Ministers, MP s , MLA s and High Posts in Police and Administration to be most corrupt, but they are still thriving?

04. It is not ALWAYS that you get paid in this life for your actions. So why should one be good to others?

What is the COMPELLING reason for one to be good? That is not explained/

How can Karma be according to Dharma, when you do not believe in god, is that not a contradiction in itself.

05. Love is a very good quality, but every thing in the world does not go by that.

06. You are wrong that only Primitive People need fear of God to rectify their conduct.

Fear of God is needed in every age. The basic thing which is the root cause of all problems in our present times is total absence or lack of fear of God.

And that is why, when on materialistic ground, present generation is at the peak, on scale of violence, crime and cruelty, we are at the bottom.

07. As I told, fear of God is always needed.

08. The FEAR of punishment for breaking the laws, is mostly for poor and common people. The mighty and high people of the society are above the FEAR of Law, because they are law unto themselves.

Fear of God and Fear of Personal accountability on the Last day are the ONLY way to correct all sections of society equally.

Because in the eyes of God we all are equal and no one has any kind of superiority over any one else.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#39126 May 4, 2013
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What Does It Mean To Be a Slave?

A Few Questions to Ask….

By Eric Peters (Contd.)

Is he free to raise his children as he considers best? To teach them as he sees fit? Or must he teach them things others decree he must teach them?
Is he even free to choose whom to marry? Or must he submit to the authority of others in even this most personal of life’s choices?
Is he free to defend himself when accosted by strangers? Or must he submit to these strangers, if they wear a certain type of outfit?(Did not the overseer also wear a certain type of outfit?)

May he own things?

More precisely, is he permitted other than conditional use of things? For instance, that which he may think of as “his” home. If it is in fact “his,” then surely that means no one else has legal claim to it and cannot take it away from him once he has paid the original seller in full. Ask him about the large payments he must make to others every year, forever, in order to be allowed to remain on “his” property. Remind him that plantation slaves also had homes – in the sense that they were allowed conditional use of dwellings. Dwellings ultimately owned by someone else. The slaves were permitted to use these dwellings so long as their labor provided enough return to the true owners of the dwelling. A slave who refused to work – who declined to make payments in the form of his labor then (and tax payments now) would soon discover who the true owner of “his” dwelling really was.
Just as today.

Ask whether he is compelled to give up whatever portion of the fruits of his labors others decide they are entitled to – and how this differs from the slave in the field being forced to pick cotton for the benefit of others .... Ask him what he thinks will happen if he declines to hand over the fruits of his labor….

Ask whether he is at liberty to do as he wills even with his own poor body. May he freely choose to treat his body’s ailments as he sees fit? Or will he be chained and jailed if he treats himself in other than the “lawful” manner?Ask whether he knows that he may be forcibly taken from his home if he declines to be “treated” in the manner prescribed by others.

Who, then, owns his body? His very person? If I have the power to compel you to do – or not do – then is it not a fact that to some degree at least, I am your owner?And in that case, are you not a slave?

The control need not be vicious or even mean. The owner of a beloved dog is no less the owner of the animal by dint of the fact that he treats it kindly and tends to its needs. The dog is not at liberty to come and go as it pleases. It is allowed to use certain items – an old sofa, for example – and not other things. It does not own anything.

It is owned.

Neither did the plantation slave own anything. And many had benevolent masters – for example, Thomas Jefferson – who tried to treat them with kindness, as they saw it. Who saw themselves as parents of subnormal adult children in need of guidance – and restraint. This benevolent treatment, however, in no way made the slaves other than slaves.

Behind the gentle guiding hand, always the whip.
As it is today – with the exception that today’s slaves are unaware of their condition and imagine themselves to be free. Its subtlety is its genius. Instead of individual plantations, there is one consolidated plantation called “our country.” But we are owned nonetheless.
It is immaterial that we are not normally chained… if the chains may be put on at the first hint of disobedience....

Well, we all know the answer to that one.

Throw it in the Woods?

Eric Peters is an automotive columnist and author of Automotive Atrocities and Road Hogs (2011).

Visit his website.
Copyright © 2012 Eric Peters
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#39127 May 4, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Allah Knows Best.
Allah knows fk all.
Your allah has done nothing but inspire terrorists and kept women in slavery.
Your allah can't even inspire you idiots to build a decent country and a decent society.

All Muslims want to come to Christian countries because your allah is such an idiot he can't do anything right.
Your allah is a real loser along with your pedophile Mo...md

You know MUQ, your just such an idiot, your stupid allah does not even exist!! He only exists in the minds of you ignorant stupid Muslims !!!

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