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“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#39088 May 3, 2013
Trucker wrote:
<quoted text> yes and after the oil wells comes information and discontent. After the wars around 1899, islamic society only paused for billions of US Dollars. They did not share the wealth but their spending and toys they discarded, like Rolls Royce cars that ran out of fuel( maybe 1st tank) left in desert, as they had the money but no fuel delivery system for themselves. These things filtered back to tribes as well as the pittance paid by sheiks for tribes land to drill oil. Later came information , maybe a century or more later. The more information, scientific or just truth via education, the more discontent emerged from the hoardes. Later they were so unhappy Sunni blamed Shiite and reverse for teaching lies, taqiyya and bullshit ! It had to be someone's fault ! Soon Islamic countries were at war like Iran and Iraq ! Millions died over the century upto then hundreds of millions of Muslims murdered by Muslims because of " the lie " which enslaved their unhappy lives, lives so unhappy millions suffered mental illness and chose suicide rather than be punished by religious zealot rulers. Still countries like Afganistan 100% Muslim went from 40,000,000 to around 20,000,000 today. By this time Iran's population growth rate had dropped from an all-time high of 3.2% in 1986 to just 1.2%, one of the fastest drops ever recorded. Iraq population reduced by war. All through Middle East revolution broke out through discontent, the Arab Spring or "the unshackling of the slaves of Islam " as these countries were ruled by Islam and no separation between State and Religion ! Now Muslims flee those 100% islamic countries like rats deserting a sinking ship ! By the millions fleeing to the lands of Christians and atheists for a fair go ! Freedom ! Democracy ! Although like most institutionalized animals, you give them freedom and they don't know what to do ! They have a choice but not the education or tools to accept choice not knowing what descision to make. Like horses after thousands of years of submission, submit to the saddle, Muslims submit to Islam and carry the burden like a horse submits to riders. They get freedom and can't cope, live in enclaves or on peripheral of society, their children live on and learn about choices in democracy and become unchained from Islam. No other mass migration in history can compare to this massive exodus of Muslims first from Muslim countries, later to cut the chains of Islamic slavery. When else in history has one particular people enslaved by the same religion fled enmass by the tens of millions to the loving, caring, benevolent arms of Christians , atheists and The West, their brain washed by Islam supposed enemies ? And they refuse to go back to any Muslim country anywhere in the world ! Next the West will liberate Muslims in their own countries via " information " " the real truth " not a badly composed copy of books of others lost in translation. THE INFORMATION HIGHWAY, history and science, no more old women's tales and lies enforced by a knife to the throat !
These fleeing peoples you speak of still live their past in this country by the standards set down in their home country's society,a good example is their traditional clothing as seen in suburbs of great numbers of them.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#39090 May 3, 2013
immigrant wrote:
I ASK DO YOU CONVICTS AND SLUMDOGS UNDERSTAND ANYTHING??????????
The New Testament reveals that when his disciples asked the “young and fearless prophet,”“Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?,” Jesus put a child in their midst, and said,“Truly I tell you, unless you change (italics added) and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me.”(Matthew 18: 1-5)
It is eight-year-old Martin Richard who spoke truth to power. His words lead the way to real security—if America’s political and corporate leaders take his words to heart, and our nation’s religious leaders demand it:“No more hurting people. Peace.” May Martin Richard’s words forever remain in our midst, revealing the power of love.
Power of love
Love of power
In the middle of
Each we owe
In the love of power
We worship idols
In the power of love
We worship humanity
Love of power
For self interest
Power of Love
For other interest
Love of power
Builds fences
Power of love
Opens doors
Love of power
Is ideology based
Requires institutions
And the power of love
Is Holistic
And builds community
The love of power sees limits
The power of love is infinite (mhk)
Peace is achievable if ever the United Nations General Assemby grows some teeth and uses them violently against any country violating the peace with the use of their combined members of member Nations militaries working as one to cease hostilities without any one getting hurt in the process.
sid

Brisbane, Australia

#39094 May 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. It is "Not possible" to separate state from religion irrespective of what you do".
Unless of course you deny all religions and do as communists did. And you know how many peoples they killed from their own people?
So total seperation from State and Church is a myth. Church is the Source of Morality and if your state has no morality then it is not a good state.
02. What you describe is "Multi Culture" society and not seperation of Church and state.
And the same situation is in many Muslims country. But what is "Our fault" if "100 % or 99 % of people are Muslims in some Muslim countries"
04. Your countries have a true problem with Racism as so many people have testified. It is the color of skin which is of paramount importance in your countries.
05. Irrespective of what ever claims you make the problem of racism cannot be removed from your countries.
06. And it is the "deficiency of Christianity" that it has so solutions for life's problems. So what is the end?
They leave religion in Church and Atheists run the state!!
Why should we also follow your example?
Best thing to do when you've dug a hole you can't get out of is to stop digging.
Translation.
Stop talking shit.

“Member of Anti-Beady Alliance”

Since: Apr 13

Freiburg, Germany

#39095 May 3, 2013
MalbarCACA Controllers wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello CASTRATO.
Where are those tables?
Calm down Beady and listen to your favorite song

http://youtu.be/-3F0PsIs02A

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#39096 May 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. It is "Not possible" to separate state from religion irrespective of what you do".
Unless of course you deny all religions and do as communists did. And you know how many peoples they killed from their own people?
So total seperation from State and Church is a myth. Church is the Source of Morality and if your state has no morality then it is not a good state.
02. What you describe is "Multi Culture" society and not seperation of Church and state.
And the same situation is in many Muslims country. But what is "Our fault" if "100 % or 99 % of people are Muslims in some Muslim countries"
04. Your countries have a true problem with Racism as so many people have testified. It is the color of skin which is of paramount importance in your countries.
05. Irrespective of what ever claims you make the problem of racism cannot be removed from your countries.
06. And it is the "deficiency of Christianity" that it has so solutions for life's problems. So what is the end?
They leave religion in Church and Atheists run the state!!
Why should we also follow your example?
Hello MUQ ,seeing as you say morals are of man ,what sayeth that towards god's way ?
Does god have morals ?
immigrant

Australia

#39098 May 3, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Peace is achievable if ever the United Nations General Assemby grows some teeth and uses them violently against any country violating the peace with the use of their combined members of member Nations militaries working as one to cease hostilities without any one getting hurt in the process.
Does that include western nations, their criminal Zionist owners and stooge nations who willingly and consciously indulge in combined murder of innocent women and children, or is your UN vision limited to enmity towards Muslims only?

In fact Israel has broken more UN resolutions that any other in UN history This country also has the benefit that their biggest ally, the USA, will veto any serious resolution against them preventing any action from being carried out. Does this seem right or fair?
Was the UN designed only to be a tool to be used by the powerful to legitimize it’s actions?

let me assure you the west is completely powerless to defeat Muslims, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan is sufficient proof.
1.5 billion Muslims are not going to vanish anywhere and they are far stronger in faith and numbers than post-Christianity nations who are rapidly declining economically, morally and militarily.
Unlike other people who were overwhelmed by western intrigue (read divide and rule policy) treachery and firepower, Muslims will continue to fight back UN or no UN, as time goes by they will continue to develop indigenous weaponry like Iran and Pakistan, this frightens the west because they know they have committed crimes against humanity.

The current UN is a joke and will not last long, going by examples of human history I see great violence up ahead because the west will not give up its "sheriff of the world" status without a fight, but so far all their military misadventures have ended in humiliation and defeat and that doesn't bode well for world peace.
Justin

United States

#39099 May 3, 2013
Muslims fear Muslims.

Why are they immigrating to the US and Australia?

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#39100 May 3, 2013
MalbarCACA Controllers wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello CASTRATO.
Where are those tables?
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Castrato is what we will do in Australia to your Muslims family and friends in less than 25 years if they choose to stay in Australia, and do not want to be returned back to one of the Muslim countries.
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I am sure that once Great Britain realise that it works they be copying what Australia is doing, and you be a Castrato.
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Canada will follow Australia for sure.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#39102 May 3, 2013
immigrant wrote:
<quoted text>
let me assure you the west is completely powerless to defeat Muslims, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan is sufficient proof.
1.5 billion Muslims are not going to vanish anywhere and they are far stronger in faith and numbers than post-Christianity nations who are rapidly declining economically, morally and militarily.
Unhygienic way of life will kill off millions of Muslims.
Fighting amongst your self will kill off more millions.
Lack of water will kill off more millions.
Lack of food will kill off more millions.
The day the Western countries decide we had enough of the crap that the Islamic countries are doing world wide, all the West has to do is drop one little unknown bacteria into the masses of Muslim and there goes an other 1/2 billion Muslim.
Read what the Japanese did in the 1940's.
During the past century, more than 500 million people died of infectious diseases. Several tens of thousands of these deaths were due to the deliberate release of pathogens or toxins, mostly by the Japanese during their attacks on China during the Second World War.
Simple things like Small pox you Muslims are immunised for such.
Or the bird flu may be a good idea.
We in the west have more than enough Vaccine storage immunisation for each and every living person in the West to immunise them.
The day the West decides bye bye Muslims we had enough of you, is when some crazy leader will decide to use it against you.
I am certain there be others who think like Hitler hiding amongst us in the West who will decide enough is enough, and start killing off Muslims.
Holland already has a small thinking Hitler that goes by the name of Geert Wilders.
The USA also have a few small thinking Hitlers, their names are Pamela Geller and Brigitte Gabriel
Australia also has a small thinking Hitler goes by the Name Geoff Dickson.
Nearly every country in the west have either 1 or more small thinking Hitlers.
The peace loving people who live in the West are still being brain washed to believe that Islam is a religion of peace, same as what Muhammad did 1400 years ago.
Listen to this lady.
"immigrant"
http://www.tennessean.com/VideoNetwork/127123...
immigrant wrote:
Unlike other people who were overwhelmed by western intrigue (read divide and rule policy) treachery and firepower, Muslims will continue to fight back UN or no UN,
We in the West have already divided you Muslims.
Into many different so called peace loving cults.
We have also divided you into rich and poor.
The poor live under the Sharia laws the rich live under the Western laws.
The Rich Muslims can drink alcohol
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#39103 May 3, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

What Does It Mean To Be a Slave?

A Few Questions to Ask….

By Eric Peters

September 10, 2012 "Information Clearing House" -- Debating the merits of a particular government policy or proposal with authoritarian-minded political opponents is pointless – if you’re hoping to persuade, at any rate. Far better to ask them a few apparently simple questions – and force them to confront the disquieting answers about the authoritarian nature of the political and social system they support.

For instance, you might ask what their view of slavery is. Is it morally wrong to own another human being? Probably, they will say it is wrong. Now ask: What does it mean to be a slave? Usually, they will tell you it means being the property of another. Now ask the killer follow-up: What does it mean to be the property of another?

Point out that it means having control over another person’s life – control of his actual person, his body. His mind, even.

To be in a position – to be entitled – to use violence to enforce compliance.
A slave is not at liberty to act as he wishes to act. He must do as he is told – and if he does not, he can expect physical punishment and that punishment will not be considered assault. The slave must accept his punishment.

There is no appeal, no recourse. He must bow low and submit – or risk the repercussions, which ultimately include death.

His only hope is escape.

The slave, most obviously, owns nothing – because he controls nothing. He may be allowed to use things. But the owner of these things – himself included – is someone else. Someone else gets to say yes – or no. When – and where. How – and how much. The slave has no real say – in that he is never in a position to say no. Not without consequences raining down upon him.
He merely obeys. Because he must obey.

The fact that his hands may hold the scythe does not mean the scythe is his. The fact that the effort of his body cuts the wheat does not mean the wheat is his. He is permitted to keep a portion. In principle, because in fact, the slave owns nothing that may not be taken away from him. At any time, for any reason. And he is powerless to do anything about it.

The slave’s dwelling, the clothes he wears – even his very body – are subject to arbitrary control against his will by another person or persons. This is the essence of what it means to be a slave.

Be sure your opponent accepts these points – which he must accept, because to not accept them is not unlike refusing to accept that 2 + 2 = four.

Now ask him whether he (or anyone else he knows) is free to determine the course of his own life. Or do others set down terms and conditions which he must obey?

Is he free to do business with whomever he chooses to do business? Or is he told exactly with whom he must do business – and under what conditions?
May he travel freely? Or is he required to travel with permission – and only under certain conditions? Must he carry ownership papers with him wherever he goes? And is it not true that if he is caught without these papers, he is subject to arrest and imprisonment for that reason alone?
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#39104 May 3, 2013
sid wrote:
<quoted text>
Best thing to do when you've dug a hole you can't get out of is to stop digging.
Translation.
Stop talking shit.
You should practice first what you say to others. Do you know what talking sh**t is?
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#39105 May 3, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello MUQ ,seeing as you say morals are of man ,what sayeth that towards god's way ?
Does god have morals ?
God has every quality in perfection. He is the source of Morals, so the question is itself not justified to ask if God has morals.

Whatever morality we see in the world is remnants of what prophets taught to their followers.

Without scriptures there is no other source of morality in the world and no one can prove or justify any moral principle.

All their arguments are flawed and not defendable.

Fear of God and fear of personal accountability on the last day are the "Only" true forces for people to use Moral principles.
Godless Goodness

Trivandrum, India

#39106 May 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
God has every quality in perfection. He is the source of Morals, so the question is itself not justified to ask if God has morals.
Whatever morality we see in the world is remnants of what prophets taught to their followers.
Without scriptures there is no other source of morality in the world and no one can prove or justify any moral principle.
All their arguments are flawed and not defendable.
Fear of God and fear of personal accountability on the last day are the "Only" true forces for people to use Moral principles.
I never believed in a god. Thirteen recorded generations of my Hindu family did not believe in a god or gods. Always rejected the idea of a creator of all things, a planner of all things, simply because of the lack of evidence or supporting logic. And without that god is just make belief.
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But all my ancestors were good stand up people, mostly very learned, very civilized and law (dharma) abiding. The focus on being good is of the highest priority to me. We follow man made laws (Dharma) that are designed (continuously rationalized) to make society good, peaceful, happy and progressive. We have learned to be good for a reason, that reason is simply our own well being is always tied to my brothers' and neighbors' well being in the long run. Individual well being is tied to societies well being. What goes around comes around. If I rob I'll get robbed too, If I hate crime on others, others will hate crime on me back. Will result in a lack of peace, progress and happiness for everybody including for me. That is the logic of being good, god or no god.
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Our Karma (action) must be according to Dharma (laws thought out that ensure goodness)||
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There is another source of our goodness: and that is LOVE, that causes us to sacrifice our well being for another's well being ||
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The very human qualities of LOGIC (rational thought) and LOVE are the source of goodness for many of us of the goodless kind.
Godless Goodness

Trivandrum, India

#39107 May 3, 2013
The problem is when the people in a society are very savage and violent, you can't go and reason with them abut the logics of being good- for to reason with humans you need a finite amount of time. And you will get killed long before the reasons or logic takes hold (percolates) in sufficient numbers of people to make it safe for you.

So God and fear of God is required initially, as FEAR takes hold instantly. Then in time said society will be peaceful and mature and gentle enough to see the benefits of being good (and understand reason to follow laws that enforce goodness). LOGIC and LOVE flow more freely in humans in certain environments!

And you still need fear of punishments to counter greed, another very human attribute. And to tackle the deviant few.
alfie

Rhodes, Australia

#39108 May 3, 2013
Australian cattle exports to Egypt halted because of cruelty. Just how dumb are our officials anyway? All Muslim countries we export livestock to are going to do this, they are barbarians & will kill them slowly & cruelly under Halal slaughter rules. All the officials allowing live export to Islamic countries should be charged with animal cruelty.
Godless Goodness

Trivandrum, India

#39109 May 3, 2013
Godless Goodness wrote:
<quoted text>
...We have learned to be good for a reason, that reason is simply our own well being is always tied to my brothers' and neighbors' well being in the long run. Individual well being is tied to societies well being. What goes around comes around. If I rob I'll get robbed too, If I hate crime on others, others will hate crime on me back. Will result in a lack of peace, progress and happiness for everybody including for me. That is the logic of being good, god or no god.
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Our Karma (action) must be according to Dharma (laws thought out that ensure goodness)||
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There is another source of our goodness: and that is LOVE, that causes us to sacrifice our well being for another's well being ||
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The very human qualities of LOGIC (rational thought) and LOVE are the source of goodness for many of us of the goodless kind.
OOPS! Sorry. Typo in the second last word

I meant godless kind (not goodless kind).

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#39110 May 4, 2013
immigrant wrote:
<quoted text>
Does that include western nations, their criminal Zionist owners and stooge nations who willingly and consciously indulge in combined murder of innocent women and children, or is your UN vision limited to enmity towards Muslims only?
In fact Israel has broken more UN resolutions that any other in UN history This country also has the benefit that their biggest ally, the USA, will veto any serious resolution against them preventing any action from being carried out. Does this seem right or fair?
Was the UN designed only to be a tool to be used by the powerful to legitimize it’s actions?
let me assure you the west is completely powerless to defeat Muslims, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan is sufficient proof.
1.5 billion Muslims are not going to vanish anywhere and they are far stronger in faith and numbers than post-Christianity nations who are rapidly declining economically, morally and militarily.
Unlike other people who were overwhelmed by western intrigue (read divide and rule policy) treachery and firepower, Muslims will continue to fight back UN or no UN, as time goes by they will continue to develop indigenous weaponry like Iran and Pakistan, this frightens the west because they know they have committed crimes against humanity.
The current UN is a joke and will not last long, going by examples of human history I see great violence up ahead because the west will not give up its "sheriff of the world" status without a fight, but so far all their military misadventures have ended in humiliation and defeat and that doesn't bode well for world peace.
To answer your question,the UN needs sharper teeth to keep all member states in line so they don't do as you say.
The state of Islam is it's own worst enemy going on it's own history no doubt you personally know about.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#39111 May 4, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
God has every quality in perfection. He is the source of Morals, so the question is itself not justified to ask if God has morals.
Whatever morality we see in the world is remnants of what prophets taught to their followers.
Without scriptures there is no other source of morality in the world and no one can prove or justify any moral principle.
All their arguments are flawed and not defendable.
Fear of God and fear of personal accountability on the last day are the "Only" true forces for people to use Moral principles.
Why then do people's have to get their morals from religion instead of directly from god when they are born ?
MUQ lost

Australia

#39112 May 4, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
God has every quality in perfection. He is the source of Morals, so the question is itself not justified to ask if God has morals.
Whatever morality we see in the world is remnants of what prophets taught to their followers.
Without scriptures there is no other source of morality in the world and no one can prove or justify any moral principle.
All their arguments are flawed and not defendable.
Fear of God and fear of personal accountability
on the last day are the "Only" true forces for people to use Moral principles.
MUQ if you think that then why are you Muslim?
Islam worships a false god, Allah is the moon god of the qareesh. Only Islam worships a black stone 'fallen from heaven, pieces of allahs face'.
Only Islam worships the lord of the Kaaba, the ghost or jinn devil spirit of Hubal, the idol who Allah was worshipped thru, until Hubal was replaced by Muhammad as a human idol and
Allah's messenger.
Net : Islam is godless, Allah is an Arab tribe pagan moon god that has no ears or mouth.
Deaf and mute ever since Muhammad was poisoned off by Aisha, that was the end of any communication. Uthman then wrote the Quran and burnt all the other versions including muhammads.. So the Quran is false also.
If you believe in a higher god, then Islam isn't fir you. Your an Indian slave born as a prisoner into it. If your not Arab, you can't even go to heaven under Islam.

So it's a bit odd for you to be waffling on about god and righteousness, when you are a prisoner in a belief system that has no god, worships objects & false idols, has a corrupted book of falsehood copied from others, and has a heaven reserved only for tribal Arabs...
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UK

#39113 May 4, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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