Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

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About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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<quoted text> nice response MUQ, exactly what we would expect from you ! What about oil wells in the Middle East ? Have they changed ?
But did you understand anything Mr. Bombay slum dog? LLOL,LLOL,LLOL

is the nerve where I hit hurting? LLOL, I have a habit of exposing weak minded turds like you Hahahahahahahahahahah
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What has changed since 1899? Have Sun and Moon changed their orbit?
Has earth stopped rotating around the sun? Do not humans are born and die as was then?
Why the criterion for Morality should change with time? Basic rules of right and wrong must not change with time.
Some flexibility should be available to "fine tune" these with the changing conditions.
Islam has that flexibility and can move with time. There is no issue for which Islam does not has a solution.
So why should it change? Change is a sign of "Imperfection", while Islam was made complete 1400 years back!!
People asking Muslims to change have "Inferiority Complex".....they say while we changed, why do you not also change?
They changed because their religion had no answer to the problems, why should we copy them blindly?
Sun changes position every day, as does the moon, and their inclination changes over the months as the seasons change. And the orbits change too slightly but surely over the centuries. Our position in the galaxy changes, and in the universe. Every thing that is material, has changed, is changing and will change, and that is the nature of nature.

You too have changed, once a fetus, then born, grown into youth, then older, grey hair then death- cant keep change away from even yourself.

Any law that fails to recognize that is flawed, and at best for the short term efficacy only.

Perfection is just only a human IDEA, flawed, and has no meaning in the reality of our universe. What exists simply exists. Seeing any part of existence as perfect or imperfect is thus just an unnecessary decision taken by an observer. The idea of Perfection is just a silly egotist's fancy.

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Any set of Laws (rules) ever made for society must have a goal they set out to achieve. If they do not achieve the goals, then the makers of the laws must realize the laws were inadequate. Reasons need to be analyzed. The goals themselves can be wrong. Or the makers did not understand the nature of the living beings for whom the laws were made.

If a set of laws were supposed to make its followers happy progressive and peaceful, but the people following the laws have had pathetic unhappy violent lives, for what ever reason, then those laws clearly have failed. Those laws did not preemptively take into account one or more reasons for their failure. What ever the goals of those laws, agree with them or not, if the goals were not achieved, the makers of any such laws were lacking,..in foresight, in knowledge of the target beings on whom the laws were applied, their nature, their abilities, and their desires. Or they lacked sufficient intelligence.

Such laws were clearly inadequate, and FAR FROM ANY IDEA OF PERFECTION.

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But did you understand anything Mr. Bombay slum dog? LLOL,LLOL,LLOL
is the nerve where I hit hurting? LLOL, I have a habit of exposing weak minded turds like you Hahahahahahahahahahah
Strangely enough,you have just portrayed the opposite and that's not worth laughing about.
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lightening fast snail wrote:
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Sun changes position every day, as does the moon, and their inclination changes over the months as the seasons change. And the orbits change too slightly but surely over the centuries. Our position in the galaxy changes, and in the universe. Every thing that is material, has changed, is changing and will change, and that is the nature of nature.
You too have changed, once a fetus, then born, grown into youth, then older, grey hair then death- cant keep change away from even yourself.
Any law that fails to recognize that is flawed, and at best for the short term efficacy only.
Perfection is just only a human IDEA, flawed, and has no meaning in the reality of our universe. What exists simply exists. Seeing any part of existence as perfect or imperfect is thus just an unnecessary decision taken by an observer. The idea of Perfection is just a silly egotist's fancy.
yes and after the oil wells comes information and discontent. After the wars around 1899, islamic society only paused for billions of US Dollars. They did not share the wealth but their spending and toys they discarded, like Rolls Royce cars that ran out of fuel( maybe 1st tank) left in desert, as they had the money but no fuel delivery system for themselves. These things filtered back to tribes as well as the pittance paid by sheiks for tribes land to drill oil. Later came information , maybe a century or more later. The more information, scientific or just truth via education, the more discontent emerged from the hoardes. Later they were so unhappy Sunni blamed Shiite and reverse for teaching lies, taqiyya and bullshit ! It had to be someone's fault ! Soon Islamic countries were at war like Iran and Iraq ! Millions died over the century upto then hundreds of millions of Muslims murdered by Muslims because of " the lie " which enslaved their unhappy lives, lives so unhappy millions suffered mental illness and chose suicide rather than be punished by religious zealot rulers. Still countries like Afganistan 100% Muslim went from 40,000,000 to around 20,000,000 today. By this time Iran's population growth rate had dropped from an all-time high of 3.2% in 1986 to just 1.2%, one of the fastest drops ever recorded. Iraq population reduced by war. All through Middle East revolution broke out through discontent, the Arab Spring or "the unshackling of the slaves of Islam " as these countries were ruled by Islam and no separation between State and Religion ! Now Muslims flee those 100% islamic countries like rats deserting a sinking ship ! By the millions fleeing to the lands of Christians and atheists for a fair go ! Freedom ! Democracy ! Although like most institutionalized animals, you give them freedom and they don't know what to do ! They have a choice but not the education or tools to accept choice not knowing what descision to make. Like horses after thousands of years of submission, submit to the saddle, Muslims submit to Islam and carry the burden like a horse submits to riders. They get freedom and can't cope, live in enclaves or on peripheral of society, their children live on and learn about choices in democracy and become unchained from Islam. No other mass migration in history can compare to this massive exodus of Muslims first from Muslim countries, later to cut the chains of Islamic slavery. When else in history has one particular people enslaved by the same religion fled enmass by the tens of millions to the loving, caring, benevolent arms of Christians , atheists and The West, their brain washed by Islam supposed enemies ? And they refuse to go back to any Muslim country anywhere in the world ! Next the West will liberate Muslims in their own countries via " information " " the real truth " not a badly composed copy of books of others lost in translation. THE INFORMATION HIGHWAY, history and science, no more old women's tales and lies enforced by a knife to the throat !

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<quoted text> nice response MUQ, exactly what we would expect from you ! What about oil wells in the Middle East ? Have they changed ?
I ask has MUG changed?
Does he go to work riding on a donkey's back?
Or does he go to work riding on a couple of hundred horse powered mechanical device?
Does MUQ still wipe his arse with a stone?
When MUQ is ill does he still drink Camel urine mixed with milk?
When MUQ decides to go back to India does he row a boat?
Or does he fly in an airplane.
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Baron44 wrote:
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I ask has MUG changed?
Does he go to work riding on a donkey's back?
Or does he go to work riding on a couple of hundred horse powered mechanical device?
Does MUQ still wipe his arse with a stone?
When MUQ is ill does he still drink Camel urine mixed with milk?
When MUQ decides to go back to India does he row a boat?
Or does he fly in an airplane.
haha, how can you change perfection , of course he still wipes his arse with the same stone he keeps in his pocket. I think MUQ comes from Malaysia works in Saudi Arabia company or Student graduated Master in Urban Quality (MUQ). Year 2007-2009 University Kebangsaan Malaysia.
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Baron44 wrote:
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I ask has MUG changed?
Does he go to work riding on a donkey's back?
Or does he go to work riding on a couple of hundred horse powered mechanical device?
Does MUQ still wipe his arse with a stone?
When MUQ is ill does he still drink Camel urine mixed with milk?
When MUQ decides to go back to India does he row a boat?
Or does he fly in an airplane.
Fly by Ali Baba Air, flying carpets for all occasions . Still drinks Camel urine ! can't prove perfection !
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May 3, 2013
 
Trucker wrote:
01. you really can't separate state and religion can you ? You really can't separate governments from churches ? Western governments are not all Christians or white people!

02. Our Governments represent over 150 races of people from hundreds of countries, and all different Religions, more than you can think of in your tiny Muslim retarded school books.

03. In Australia the white people you despise are mixed with a hundred other cultures, mind boggling to Muslims whose countries have just one religion and one race of people. There is no evil white culture, there is no Christian monopoly like Islam in retarded Islamic countries.

05. There are only people with all couloirs and all religions who have reached a consensus, Muslims don't know how to live amongst other races in any country anywhere in the world . There is not one race in Australia for a Muslim to hold a knife to their throat to convert to Islam , there are hundreds of different races !

06. Then these have mixed, so all Australians unite to form a government which fairly represents all the citizens and no have preference over another ! which only Islam strives to have preference, we the people resoundingly deny your request. We see you as dull, of low iq, do not mix well with others because you are bound by ignorance and bad inbred blood which ensures retardation like Darwin's family .

07. We even have atheists well represented in government to ensure religions can not be given preferential treatment above another, atheists are aligned with none and have no time or alliance with any!

08. Just , sigh ! Poor mussies got no advantage from no where in " other countries ", only the retarded shit holes they fled from like sewer rats deserting sinking ship.
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01. It is "Not possible" to separate state from religion irrespective of what you do".

Unless of course you deny all religions and do as communists did. And you know how many peoples they killed from their own people?

So total seperation from State and Church is a myth. Church is the Source of Morality and if your state has no morality then it is not a good state.

02. What you describe is "Multi Culture" society and not seperation of Church and state.

And the same situation is in many Muslims country. But what is "Our fault" if "100 % or 99 % of people are Muslims in some Muslim countries"

04. Your countries have a true problem with Racism as so many people have testified. It is the color of skin which is of paramount importance in your countries.

05. Irrespective of what ever claims you make the problem of racism cannot be removed from your countries.

06. And it is the "deficiency of Christianity" that it has so solutions for life's problems. So what is the end?

They leave religion in Church and Atheists run the state!!

Why should we also follow your example?
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May 3, 2013
 
Trucker wrote:
<quoted text> nice response MUQ, exactly what we would expect from you ! What about oil wells in the Middle East ? Have they changed ?
I do not know what you mean by changed? They did not go dry as "Western scientists" "predicted" in 1970 s that they will go dry in 25-30 years!!
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lightening fast snail wrote:
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Sun changes position every day, as does the moon, and their inclination changes over the months as the seasons change. And the orbits change too slightly but surely over the centuries. Our position in the galaxy changes, and in the universe. Every thing that is material, has changed, is changing and will change, and that is the nature of nature.
You too have changed, once a fetus, then born, grown into youth, then older, grey hair then death- cant keep change away from even yourself.
Any law that fails to recognize that is flawed, and at best for the short term efficacy only.
Perfection is just only a human IDEA, flawed, and has no meaning in the reality of our universe. What exists simply exists. Seeing any part of existence as perfect or imperfect is thus just an unnecessary decision taken by an observer. The idea of Perfection is just a silly egotist's fancy.
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Any set of Laws (rules) ever made for society must have a goal they set out to achieve. If they do not achieve the goals, then the makers of the laws must realize the laws were inadequate. Reasons need to be analyzed. The goals themselves can be wrong. Or the makers did not understand the nature of the living beings for whom the laws were made.
If a set of laws were supposed to make its followers happy progressive and peaceful, but the people following the laws have had pathetic unhappy violent lives, for what ever reason, then those laws clearly have failed. Those laws did not preemptively take into account one or more reasons for their failure. What ever the goals of those laws, agree with them or not, if the goals were not achieved, the makers of any such laws were lacking,..in foresight, in knowledge of the target beings on whom the laws were applied, their nature, their abilities, and their desires. Or they lacked sufficient intelligence.
Such laws were clearly inadequate, and FAR FROM ANY IDEA OF PERFECTION.
I think you do not even know, what is change?

You wake up, you eat, go to work, come back have dinner and go to sleep, So things change?

Did your check your IQ recently?
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BUT DO YOU UNDERSTAND ANYTHING CONVICTS AND SLUMDOGS llol,llol.

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has reported a 28-percent rise in suicide rates during the 1999-2010 period.
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Suicide rate among middle-aged Americans has risen 28.4 percent, a federal report says.

A report by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) revealed on Thursday that suicide rate among men and women between the ages of 35 and 64 rose from 13.7 suicides per 100,000 population in 1999 to 17.6 in 2010.

The recent economic downturn is a possible contributing factor, said the report, adding that historically, suicide rates tend to correlate with business cycles, with higher rates observed during times of economic hardship.

The CDC used mortality data collected by the National Vital Statistics System from 1999 to 2010. The analysis looked at trends in suicide rates by gender, age group, race, state and region of residence, as well as suicide methods.

Among ethnic populations the greatest increases were observed among American Indians and Alaska Natives (65 percent), and whites (40 percent).

By gender, the suicide rate increased among men and women by 27.3 and 31.5 percent respectively. Suicide rates rose significantly across all four geographic regions and in 39 of the 50 US states, the CDC said.

The three most common methods used to commit suicide were gunshot wound, poisoning and suffocation, usually by hanging. The CDC said suicide by suffocation saw the greatest increase in the studied period.

The CDC analysis showed that in 2009 the number of deaths by suicide exceeded that of motor vehicle crashes in the country.

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I ASK DO YOU CONVICTS AND SLUMDOGS UNDERSTAND ANYTHING??????????

The New Testament reveals that when his disciples asked the “young and fearless prophet,”“Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?,” Jesus put a child in their midst, and said,“Truly I tell you, unless you change (italics added) and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me.”(Matthew 18: 1-5)

It is eight-year-old Martin Richard who spoke truth to power. His words lead the way to real security—if America’s political and corporate leaders take his words to heart, and our nation’s religious leaders demand it:“No more hurting people. Peace.” May Martin Richard’s words forever remain in our midst, revealing the power of love.

Power of love

Love of power

In the middle of

Each we owe

In the love of power

We worship idols

In the power of love

We worship humanity

Love of power

For self interest

Power of Love

For other interest

Love of power

Builds fences

Power of love

Opens doors

Love of power

Is ideology based

Requires institutions

And the power of love

Is Holistic

And builds community

The love of power sees limits

The power of love is infinite (mhk)

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Trucker wrote:
<quoted text> yes and after the oil wells comes information and discontent. After the wars around 1899, islamic society only paused for billions of US Dollars. They did not share the wealth but their spending and toys they discarded, like Rolls Royce cars that ran out of fuel( maybe 1st tank) left in desert, as they had the money but no fuel delivery system for themselves. These things filtered back to tribes as well as the pittance paid by sheiks for tribes land to drill oil. Later came information , maybe a century or more later. The more information, scientific or just truth via education, the more discontent emerged from the hoardes. Later they were so unhappy Sunni blamed Shiite and reverse for teaching lies, taqiyya and bullshit ! It had to be someone's fault ! Soon Islamic countries were at war like Iran and Iraq ! Millions died over the century upto then hundreds of millions of Muslims murdered by Muslims because of " the lie " which enslaved their unhappy lives, lives so unhappy millions suffered mental illness and chose suicide rather than be punished by religious zealot rulers. Still countries like Afganistan 100% Muslim went from 40,000,000 to around 20,000,000 today. By this time Iran's population growth rate had dropped from an all-time high of 3.2% in 1986 to just 1.2%, one of the fastest drops ever recorded. Iraq population reduced by war. All through Middle East revolution broke out through discontent, the Arab Spring or "the unshackling of the slaves of Islam " as these countries were ruled by Islam and no separation between State and Religion ! Now Muslims flee those 100% islamic countries like rats deserting a sinking ship ! By the millions fleeing to the lands of Christians and atheists for a fair go ! Freedom ! Democracy ! Although like most institutionalized animals, you give them freedom and they don't know what to do ! They have a choice but not the education or tools to accept choice not knowing what descision to make. Like horses after thousands of years of submission, submit to the saddle, Muslims submit to Islam and carry the burden like a horse submits to riders. They get freedom and can't cope, live in enclaves or on peripheral of society, their children live on and learn about choices in democracy and become unchained from Islam. No other mass migration in history can compare to this massive exodus of Muslims first from Muslim countries, later to cut the chains of Islamic slavery. When else in history has one particular people enslaved by the same religion fled enmass by the tens of millions to the loving, caring, benevolent arms of Christians , atheists and The West, their brain washed by Islam supposed enemies ? And they refuse to go back to any Muslim country anywhere in the world ! Next the West will liberate Muslims in their own countries via " information " " the real truth " not a badly composed copy of books of others lost in translation. THE INFORMATION HIGHWAY, history and science, no more old women's tales and lies enforced by a knife to the throat !
These fleeing peoples you speak of still live their past in this country by the standards set down in their home country's society,a good example is their traditional clothing as seen in suburbs of great numbers of them.

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I ASK DO YOU CONVICTS AND SLUMDOGS UNDERSTAND ANYTHING??????????
The New Testament reveals that when his disciples asked the “young and fearless prophet,”“Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?,” Jesus put a child in their midst, and said,“Truly I tell you, unless you change (italics added) and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me.”(Matthew 18: 1-5)
It is eight-year-old Martin Richard who spoke truth to power. His words lead the way to real security—if America’s political and corporate leaders take his words to heart, and our nation’s religious leaders demand it:“No more hurting people. Peace.” May Martin Richard’s words forever remain in our midst, revealing the power of love.
Power of love
Love of power
In the middle of
Each we owe
In the love of power
We worship idols
In the power of love
We worship humanity
Love of power
For self interest
Power of Love
For other interest
Love of power
Builds fences
Power of love
Opens doors
Love of power
Is ideology based
Requires institutions
And the power of love
Is Holistic
And builds community
The love of power sees limits
The power of love is infinite (mhk)
Peace is achievable if ever the United Nations General Assemby grows some teeth and uses them violently against any country violating the peace with the use of their combined members of member Nations militaries working as one to cease hostilities without any one getting hurt in the process.
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01. It is "Not possible" to separate state from religion irrespective of what you do".
Unless of course you deny all religions and do as communists did. And you know how many peoples they killed from their own people?
So total seperation from State and Church is a myth. Church is the Source of Morality and if your state has no morality then it is not a good state.
02. What you describe is "Multi Culture" society and not seperation of Church and state.
And the same situation is in many Muslims country. But what is "Our fault" if "100 % or 99 % of people are Muslims in some Muslim countries"
04. Your countries have a true problem with Racism as so many people have testified. It is the color of skin which is of paramount importance in your countries.
05. Irrespective of what ever claims you make the problem of racism cannot be removed from your countries.
06. And it is the "deficiency of Christianity" that it has so solutions for life's problems. So what is the end?
They leave religion in Church and Atheists run the state!!
Why should we also follow your example?
Best thing to do when you've dug a hole you can't get out of is to stop digging.
Translation.
Stop talking shit.

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Hello CASTRATO.
Where are those tables?
Calm down Beady and listen to your favorite song

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MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
01. It is "Not possible" to separate state from religion irrespective of what you do".
Unless of course you deny all religions and do as communists did. And you know how many peoples they killed from their own people?
So total seperation from State and Church is a myth. Church is the Source of Morality and if your state has no morality then it is not a good state.
02. What you describe is "Multi Culture" society and not seperation of Church and state.
And the same situation is in many Muslims country. But what is "Our fault" if "100 % or 99 % of people are Muslims in some Muslim countries"
04. Your countries have a true problem with Racism as so many people have testified. It is the color of skin which is of paramount importance in your countries.
05. Irrespective of what ever claims you make the problem of racism cannot be removed from your countries.
06. And it is the "deficiency of Christianity" that it has so solutions for life's problems. So what is the end?
They leave religion in Church and Atheists run the state!!
Why should we also follow your example?
Hello MUQ ,seeing as you say morals are of man ,what sayeth that towards god's way ?
Does god have morals ?
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Peace is achievable if ever the United Nations General Assemby grows some teeth and uses them violently against any country violating the peace with the use of their combined members of member Nations militaries working as one to cease hostilities without any one getting hurt in the process.
Does that include western nations, their criminal Zionist owners and stooge nations who willingly and consciously indulge in combined murder of innocent women and children, or is your UN vision limited to enmity towards Muslims only?

In fact Israel has broken more UN resolutions that any other in UN history This country also has the benefit that their biggest ally, the USA, will veto any serious resolution against them preventing any action from being carried out. Does this seem right or fair?
Was the UN designed only to be a tool to be used by the powerful to legitimize it’s actions?

let me assure you the west is completely powerless to defeat Muslims, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan is sufficient proof.
1.5 billion Muslims are not going to vanish anywhere and they are far stronger in faith and numbers than post-Christianity nations who are rapidly declining economically, morally and militarily.
Unlike other people who were overwhelmed by western intrigue (read divide and rule policy) treachery and firepower, Muslims will continue to fight back UN or no UN, as time goes by they will continue to develop indigenous weaponry like Iran and Pakistan, this frightens the west because they know they have committed crimes against humanity.

The current UN is a joke and will not last long, going by examples of human history I see great violence up ahead because the west will not give up its "sheriff of the world" status without a fight, but so far all their military misadventures have ended in humiliation and defeat and that doesn't bode well for world peace.
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Muslims fear Muslims.

Why are they immigrating to the US and Australia?

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