Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

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Azamat

Brisbane, Australia

#39020 Apr 30, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
Your post is strange mixture of truth and falsehood and has no relation to what really happened in the world.
01. Islamic armies during the "First century" went to Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Morocco, Libya, Algeria, Tunis, Ethiopia, Spain, Afghanistan, Sindh.
And except Spain, most of these Countries are still majority Muslim countries! So your mention of "Islam's demise" is not correct.
Then in later century, Islam conquered almost all known parts of Asia except China and Japan and major parts of Africa and major part of Eastern Europe.
In most of these countries Muslims are ruling and even if they are out of power that have strong presence. So how can you say that Islam is dead in those country.
02. The proof is in the pudding, and comparing Christianity with Islam is like comparing apples against oranges.
Christianity started 600 years before islam and had a clear run for 600 years. For first 300 years it was only a "marginal religion".
Expansion of Christianity came when Roman Empire accepted Christianity and that expansion was not "be message of love" but by the arms of Mighty Roman Empire.
03. And it is a myth that Muslims forced non Muslims to either accept Islam or there heads will be chopped off…..this is what we saw in Christianity and Spain is enough proof for that.
What Crusaders did to jews and Muslims living in Jerusalem is known to every one and what Salahuddin did to Christians and Jews when he captured Jerusalem is also known to every one.
So your post is a strange mixture of truth and falsehood mixed with each other.
Why do you peddle your ancient racist hatreds to a peaceful Christian nation. Can't you see, we don't care your angry nonsense.
With bombs killing your Muslim people with in 1000 klm from where you are, shouldn't you be more concerned with that.

When your people can live in peace like us Australians, Maybe we may look at your society.

You lead by example.
MUQ taqiyya

Australia

#39021 Apr 30, 2013
MUQ
Well,,, and aren't your posts are a strange mixture of non truth and falsehood mixed with each other ?
Azamat

Brisbane, Australia

#39022 Apr 30, 2013
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/world/2013/04...

Your country's are a mess

Your society's are a mess

Your religion is a mess

You don't have much going for you, no wonder

Masses believe in Christ and live,
Masses accept Islam or die.
Obi

Australia

#39023 Apr 30, 2013
Next Gen drones wrote:
The drone is quite a machine.
Designed by a jewish engineer it can maintain in shifts a position over a target for days or weeks at very low cost, virtually undetectable..
With long range visual, infrared, electronic, and many other spectrum viewers and targeting, it can cover many targets in tracing & tracking. Sometimes it can be a tiny signaling device planted on the person or object, or invisible laser,
sometimes it can be a coordinate fixed position set by someone on the ground nearby using a
smart phone to guide it in.

The scan includes being able to see thru buildings, heat trails (where someone may have
walked minute before( vibration and other detection.

A team far away maintain control, backup, targeting, ground & air support around the drone.

The most common missile is the hellfire missiles which has a range of options from widespread
annihilation of large groups to pin point deep (7 levels underground( penetration.

Missiles can starburst, take out an entire city
block or can pin point to destroy an individual in
a car.
Double tap is often used, a smaller charge,
damage, the enemy comes in, and then a second charge to assure the result.
Supporting the drone strike often are gunships that can deliver a splash of destruction from over 2km away (virtually undetectable) in radius of 20-30m where nothing at all can survive.
Supporting that of course are laser guided strike
jet rockets and missiles, up to 25 km away - all with pin point precise accuracy and appropriate layers of response to what is required.

After much training & experimentation around the middle east zones, the response systems have
become very precise, appropriate & measured.

There are around 1,420 operational drones with
full scale strike capacity. In addition to that is the worlds most comprehensive arial array of
missiles, fighters, strike fighters, bombers, heavy bombers, ballistic missiles and now energy and particle rays.

The USA administration plans to put another 1,000 drones into operational service, as well as
trial lighter versions with smaller missiles and
with energy & particle rays.

The particle or microwave raymachines will be
interesting because the promise a 'partial roast' to 'fully instant death' beam instead of a missile.
If for example on surviellance,
Muslims are seen with guns inside a mosque (common funding & trading place for weapons)
then the operator can select a beam that cooks the weapons/ammunition, or slowly roasts or disables the Muskims body fluids, but does not
kill them.

This is all thru the roof, everything can be seen
and dealt with.
Night as day. Inside their houses, nothing will be hidden. Shapes, objects, association, individual
tracking, all will be exposed.

Instant heat, sound, shock, death may or may
not suddenly appear to any person who does not bow to the will of the common good.

The trials in the next generation of drones and
these super weapons have been completed, and the USA is actively developing conflict theaters in which to then field test their effectiveness.
I thought these xray & particle beam rays would be too heavy to put on a drone.
There is video of them zapping objects often many kilometers away, but they are big heavy devices.
Has the USA managed to miniaturize them onto
a drone now ?
The slow roast ray is a good idea, the drone can see inside buildings & then destroys weapons by exploding the Ammo and caused pain & disablement by cooking the person's body fluids.
That's a winner, a pointable lazer beam that has warning then kill if needed.

Any video of these ?
Kaka

Brisbane, Australia

#39024 Apr 30, 2013
Slumdog buster wrote:
<quoted text>
You sound like a Slumdog pretending to be a brogan, am i correct in my presumption?
Drop the bucket and Lazy Black Pigs come running.

We can do without the lazy black Pigs.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#39025 Apr 30, 2013
Next Gen drones wrote:
The drone is quite a machine.
Designed by a jewish engineer it can maintain in shifts a position over a target for days or weeks at very low cost, virtually undetectable..
With long range visual, infrared, electronic, and many other spectrum viewers and targeting, it can cover many targets in tracing & tracking. Sometimes it can be a tiny signaling device planted on the person or object, or invisible laser, sometimes it can be a coordinate fixed position set by someone on the ground nearby using a smart phone to guide it in.
The scan includes being able to see thru buildings, heat trails (where someone may have walked minute before( vibration and other detection.
A team far away maintain control, backup, targeting, ground & air support around the drone.
The most common missile is the hellfire missiles which has a range of options from widespread
annihilation of large groups to pin point deep (7 levels underground( penetration.
Missiles can starburst, take out an entire city block or can pin point to destroy an individual in
a car. Double tap is often used, a smaller charge, damage, the enemy comes in, and then a second charge to assure the result. Supporting the drone strike often are gunships that can deliver a splash of destruction from over 2km away (virtually undetectable) in radius of 20-30m where nothing at all can survive. Supporting that of course are laser guided strike jet rockets and missiles, up to 25 km away - all with pin point precise accuracy and appropriate layers of response to what is required.
After much training & experimentation around the middle east zones, the response systems have become very precise, appropriate & measured.
There are around 1,420 operational drones with full scale strike capacity. In addition to that is the worlds most comprehensive arial array of
missiles, fighters, strike fighters, bombers, heavy bombers, ballistic missiles and now energy and particle rays.
The USA administration plans to put another 1,000 drones into operational service, as well as trial lighter versions with smaller missiles and
with energy & particle rays.
The particle or microwave raymachines will be
interesting because the promise a 'partial roast' to 'fully instant death' beam instead of a missile.
If for example on surviellance, Muslims are seen
with guns inside a mosque (common funding & trading place for weapons) then the operator can select a beam that cooks the weapons/ammunition, or slowly roasts or disables the Muskims body fluids, but does not kill them.
This is all thru the roof, everything can be seen and dealt with. Night as day. Inside their houses, nothing will be hidden. Shapes, objects, association, individual tracking, all will be exposed.
Instant heat, sound, shock, death may or may not suddenly appear to any person who does not bow to the will of the common good.
The trials in the next generation of drones and these super weapons have been completed, and the USA is actively developing conflict theaters in which to then field test their effectiveness.
In the near future they will have drones that don't need refuelling.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#39026 Apr 30, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
Your post is strange mixture of truth and falsehood and has no relation to what really happened in the world.
01. Islamic armies during the "First century" went to Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Morocco, Libya, Algeria, Tunis, Ethiopia, Spain, Afghanistan, Sindh.
And except Spain, most of these Countries are still majority Muslim countries! So your mention of "Islam's demise" is not correct.
Then in later century, Islam conquered almost all known parts of Asia except China and Japan and major parts of Africa and major part of Eastern Europe.
In most of these countries Muslims are ruling and even if they are out of power that have strong presence. So how can you say that Islam is dead in those country.
02. The proof is in the pudding, and comparing Christianity with Islam is like comparing apples against oranges.
Christianity started 600 years before islam and had a clear run for 600 years. For first 300 years it was only a "marginal religion".
Expansion of Christianity came when Roman Empire accepted Christianity and that expansion was not "be message of love" but by the arms of Mighty Roman Empire.
03. And it is a myth that Muslims forced non Muslims to either accept Islam or there heads will be chopped off…..this is what we saw in Christianity and Spain is enough proof for that.
What Crusaders did to jews and Muslims living in Jerusalem is known to every one and what Salahuddin did to Christians and Jews when he captured Jerusalem is also known to every one.
So your post is a strange mixture of truth and falsehood mixed with each other.
How did the Army arrive at Ethiopia ?
By land or by sea ?
Truth

UK

#39028 Apr 30, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
How did the Army arrive at Ethiopia ?
By land or by sea ?
There is only two Muslim majority countries that are becoming great power and that is Indonesia and Turkey .

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#39029 Apr 30, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>There is only two Muslim majority countries that are becoming great power and that is Indonesia and Turkey .
For what reason if only to be made a target for their own actions.
Islamic tales

Australia

#39030 Apr 30, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
How did the Army arrive at Ethiopia ?
By land or by sea ?
Or by air ?
The Quran and Hadeeth script tell of many flying carpet trips to see the Syrian Hori's and other islamic pursuits. And of course Mo's night journeys on a winged camel & his final flyover ascension as a Jew over the Jewish rock of Abraham - showed Islam had invented and routinely used air travel.
The Ethiopians of course will claim they were never invaded or conquered by Islam.
Their post at the church of the holy sepelchure in jerusalem has the claim they kept the Christian flame alive in Africa, where it now re-conquers Islam.
Nubia maybe as part of egypt then.
But Islam never took Ethiopia.
Islam never conquered anything in reality.
Islam shifter to syria. The syria governor was the ruler of the ex roman colonies in the region from turkey to libya. With the collapse of the south and
east roman empires, Islam was imposed in lieu
as a primitive tax & tribute mechanism.
No Egyptian or Nubian or Libyan ever fought a
battle against Islamic warriors... It became a backup local taxation alternative, like say emergency lighting during a power cut.
Islam enslaved these people top down thru the remnant control structures of the imploded roman empire. Similar with the Gauls, Nornans, franks, Huns to the north. The pagan tribes filled the vacuum of civilization until it could return.
Islam then collapsed itself with 3 major civil wars.
But the Mongols who invaded and had an empire thar stretched from china to Malaysia, across to austria and down to Syria, the mongols also needed a taxation & tribute system. Khan II forced every subject, two thirds of all humans, and all of india as a slave colony to be Islamic.
Not because they believed in it. But because the Mongols liked the violence, tryanny & money (jizya) that Islam collected.

So as you see: the Islamic virus filled a roman empire collapse (via the ex roman Syrian governor who controlled that entire region), then via the Mongols for the rest.
All top down.
Imposed relgion, tax, tribute & slavery.
No Indian, Egyptian, Libyan, Tunisian, Albanian, Malaysian, Indonesian, or any other 'slave' of Islam ever had any choice in it.
Unbelievers paid jizya or unbeliever tax.
People converted to avoid the tax. If they converted they got the job to collect the tax.
All Indian muslims were in fact quisling scum of the mughals that oppressed the Hindu and collected tax off them.
That is how Islam works and spreads.
*
No battles were fought to spread Islam.
It was imposed long after the battles were
fought and the empires won. No Arab with desert sand in his sandals & a Quran in his hand strode along a beach in Malaysia or Libya 'converting' the pagans to Allah.
The governer Syria or later the Khanate decided what they would believe in as part of already established empires.
*
MUQ has no idea about facts or recorded history.
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#39031 Apr 30, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
01. Islamic armies during the "First century" went to Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Morocco, Libya, Algeria, Tunis, Ethiopia, Spain, Afghanistan, Sindh.
And except Spain, most of these Countries are still majority Muslim countries!
Yes, Muslim countries!!
These were sh^thole countries then and they are still sh^thole countries today !!

The only improvement to these countries since then has been because they have adopted western technologies and some western ways. Muslims themselves have contributed next to nothing to improve the lifestyles of people living in these countries.

Because these are such sh^thole countries, most Muslims who live in these countries want to immigrate to western Christian countries because today they are beginning to realize what sh^thole counties these Muslim countries are!!
Truth

UK

#39032 Apr 30, 2013
Serpent wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, Muslim countries!!
These were sh^thole countries then and they are still sh^thole countries today !!
The only improvement to these countries since then has been because they have adopted western technologies and some western ways. Muslims themselves have contributed next to nothing to improve the lifestyles of people living in these countries.
Because these are such sh^thole countries, most Muslims who live in these countries want to immigrate to western Christian countries because today they are beginning to realize what sh^thole counties these Muslim countries are!!
The balance of power is shifting from west back to the East , so I wouldn't be boasting if I were you .
Trucker

Australia

#39033 Apr 30, 2013
Slumdog buster wrote:
<quoted text>
You sound like a Slumdog pretending to be a brogan, am i correct in my presumption?
smell your fingers ! Wait you are used to smell of shit. Ask someone to carefully stand back and smell the air around your fingers ! That smell is faeces, human waste, bacteria that kills millions in the third world every year but many are immune, like you. When you learn to put a barrier between your anus and your food and utensils you share with others, talk to me. Try paper, a leaf or bark from a paper bark tree found around wet lands. Tea tree has paper bark, maybe a Honda full of dirt or sand. Until you can get control over your spreading of human waste around public areas, nurseries , children, cafeterias, public transport, work places, kitchens, shop counters and everywhere 1 st world keep " faeces free zones" you can eat off our floors and no shit, we can't even eat in the same suburbs as you and not get infected. Before you try to run countries try simple things like "hygiene" simple hygiene! Then first world can save billions shipping medical supplies to your filthy cess pit countries. You should just fall at the feet of a westerner and kiss their shoes, without their charity, you would not even be here, maybe not even alive without their aid to your ancestors and their benevolence to your ancestors. Get your shit together and put it in a hole or sewer, don't push it down the shower hole, with your foot, that is not going to be treated and will polute creeks and rivers as well as local waterways ! You know like rivers of sewer that flow down third world streets, gutters and footpaths. When you learn to shit hygienically, dispose of that waste hygienically , and not spread it to every man, woman, baby and person infecting th with disease , 1st world have to treat you for to save millions http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterborne_dis... typhoid, the plague, everything your shithole countries have and live with which we treat to prevent you traveling here and spreading it all over plane seats to taxis to hotel rooms to shops and eating places. This is why " white flight" and plumbers closed down and moved out of 3rd world suburbs, 50mm water waste pipes trying to deal with shit supposed to be transported by 100mm sewer pipes to treatment plants. Plumbers sound found immigrants shitting in bath tubs ( nice guys bath in shit) shower plug holes and sinks! These guys life work was their business and everything invested there! To pack up and walk away through fear of bringing disease home from these people from these misuses of drains, is a mighty statement ! Give up their life's work and life's business because of vermin from ME shitholes.

When you learn these things, come back and I'll explain the other things you did not understand in the adults posts.
Trucker

Australia

#39034 Apr 30, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>The balance of power is shifting from west back to the East , so I wouldn't be boasting if I were you .
odiot! Do you believe the shit you peddle? Maybe you have read the bad copy of bible and Torah , so I guess you do believe the shit you peddle. Maybe just a game of taqiyya .
true blue

Ross, Australia

#39035 Apr 30, 2013
In today's paper, the English Government are warning the Australian Government about the return of war veterans, those Australian muslims returning from fighting the war in Syria, of the dangers of them calling a Jihad on the west.. Are these people Australian or Lebanese, if they call themselves Lebanese first, then clearly they are not Australian, and should have their citizenship cancelled and be deported, or if born here jailed.. Australia is not at war with Syria, our Government has learnt the stupidity of involving ourselves and our soldiers in ANY middle eastern conflict, and in Afghanistan we have paid the price in lives, given for a corrupt country, whose supposed Allies shoot you in the back.. Once again the families and the Imans who know these young men are fighting in Syria, say nothing or do nothing to stop this, while they enjoy the benefits of living here... Traitors all of them..
Truth

UK

#39036 Apr 30, 2013
Trucker wrote:
<quoted text>odiot! Do you believe the shit you peddle? Maybe you have read the bad copy of bible and Torah , so I guess you do believe the shit you peddle. Maybe just a game of taqiyya .
Have been drinking Christs blood again, you smelly vampire!
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#39037 Apr 30, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>The balance of power is shifting from west back to the East , so I wouldn't be boasting if I were you .
Haha the East will never ever have Power.
If the East got Power, they would wind up destroying themselves. hahaha!! They are such barbarians!!

The West will always make sure the east is adaquately looked after but the west will NEVER give them power!!
Truth

UK

#39038 Apr 30, 2013
Serpent wrote:
<quoted text>
Haha the East will never ever have Power.
If the East got Power, they would wind up destroying themselves. hahaha!! They are such barbarians!!
The West will always make sure the east is adaquately looked after but the west will NEVER give them power!!
I'm afraid the West as know choice in the matter freak!
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#39039 Apr 30, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>I'm afraid the West as know choice in the matter freak!
Haha your an idiot,,, the West makes its own choices,,,,haha it doesn't pray to some fkn allah to get choices...goof ball !!
Trucker

Australia

#39040 Apr 30, 2013
Serpent wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, Muslim countries!!
These were sh^thole countries then and they are still sh^thole countries today !!
The only improvement to these countries since then has been because they have adopted western technologies and some western ways. Muslims themselves have contributed next to nothing to improve the lifestyles of people living in these countries.
Because these are such sh^thole countries, most Muslims who live in these countries want to immigrate to western Christian countries because today they are beginning to realize what sh^thole counties these Muslim countries are!!
Arab Spring lol

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