Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46759 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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afoolandhismoney

Epping, Australia

#38908 Apr 27, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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So do not meddle in Middle East affairs, vacate Iraq, Yemen, Libya,
Do not interfere with Iran, Syria and dismantle and take your precious child "Israel" out of harm's way.
Stay far away to stay safe!!
So stop coming onto an Australian Forum spouting your indoctrinated crap that nobody buys nor believes. You appear to be trying to convince yourself if anything.

They are vacating Iraq and pland to do so in Afghanistan.
"They" are trying NOT to get involved with Syria, but it's ironic that sections of Syria are accusing USA of ignoring their please for help.

I agree though, let you all stew in your own shit, because even without western influences, the tribal warring between muslims and Islamic countries will NEVER stop.

Now, can YOU STOP YOUR BROTHERS IN THOSE BLOODY GOD FORESAKEN HELL HOLES STOP FLEEING TO AUSTRALIA AND OTHER WESTERN COUNTRIES. CAN YOU ALSO GET THOSE MUSLIMS TO VACATE AUSTRALIA BACK TO MIDDLE EAST.

Fair call MUQ, you want our noses out of the middle east, we want middle eastern noses out of Australia!

What is it out of 11 million muslims, NINETY FARKIN PECENT KILLED BY OTHER MUSLIMS HANDS.
You MUQ, are a certified brainwashed fool.
afoolandhismoney

Epping, Australia

#38909 Apr 27, 2013
immigrantsoncrack wrote:
"Oh rubbish. YOu obviously have not studied history throughout the ages if you are saying that white races have killed more than all other religions combined.NIce highlight on your Muslim fantaticism and racism.
Just for starters:
* 40,000,000 Red China, 1949-76 (outright killing, manmade famine, Gulag)
* 4,000,000 Ethiopia, 1962-92: Communists, artificial hunger, genocides
* 3,900,000 Zaire (Congo-Kinshasa): 1967-68; 1977-78; 1992-95; 1998-present
* 2,800,000 Korean war, 1950-53
* 1,900,000 Sudan, 1955-72; 1983-2006 (civil wars, genocides)
* 1,970,000 Cambodia: Khmer Rouge 1975-79; civil war 1978-91
* 1,800,000 Vietnam War, 1954-75
* 1,800,000 Afghanistan: Soviet and internecine killings, Taliban 1980-2001
1* 1,450,000 West Pakistan massacres in East Pakistan (Bangladesh 1971)
1* 1,400,000 Nigeria, 1966-79 (Biafra); 1993-present
1* 1,100,000 Mozambique, 1964-70 (30,000)+ after retreat of Portugal 1976-92
*1,500,000 Iran-Iraq-War, 1980-88
*900,000 Rwanda genocide, 1994
15 875,000 Algeria: against France 1954-62 (675,000); between Islamists and the government 1991-2006 (200,000)
* 850,000 Uganda, 1971-79; 1981-85; 1994-present
* 650,000 Indonesia: Marxists 1965-66 (450,000); East Timor, Papua, Aceh etc, 1969-present (200,000)
* 580,000 Angola: war against Portugal 1961-72 (80,000); after Portugal’s retreat (1972-2002)
* 500,000 Brazil against its Indians, up to 1999
* 430,000 Vietnam, after the war ended in 1975 (own people; boat refugees)
* 400,000 Indochina: against France, 1945-54
* 400,000 Burundi, 1959-present (Tutsi/Hutu)
* 700,000 Somalia, 1991-present
* 700,000 North Korea up to present (own people)
* 350,000 Kurds in Iraq, Iran, Turkey, 1980s-1900,000 Iraq, 1970-2003 (Saddam against minorities)
* 190,000 Lebanon civil war, 1975-90
*90,000 Iran, 1978-79 (revolution)
*29,000 Jordan government vs. Palestinians, 1970-71 (Black September)
*20,000 Syria, 1982 (against Islamists in Hama)
* 70,000 Syrians dead and counting, present internal conflict.
---more lists, but I've run out of space and energy!
You don't even value your own blood though, so how can any sane person expect you to value anybody elses. Take westerners out of the equasion, you will still kill each other with regular montony, you have been responsible for more of your own deaths in this modern era than any western influence.
The usual muslim banging on about Drones killing (and yes, unfortunatley they sometimes kill innocent civilians) when your own murder rate makes the drones look tame.
NINETY PERCENT OF THE ELEVEN MILLION MUSLIMS WHO HAVE DIED SINCE 1948 HAS BEEN BY EACH OTHER'S MUSLIM HANDS!! Maybe you should CONVINCE OTHER MUSLIMS OF YOUR PEACEFUL RELIGION NOT US WESTERNERS! "
Again, this is merely an inconvenient truth to a rabid brainwashed type muslim.
NINETY PERCENT OF THE ELEVEN MILLION MUSLIMS WHO HAVE DIED SINCE 1948 HAS BEEN BY EACH OTHER'S MUSLIM HANDS.
Truth

UK

#38910 Apr 27, 2013
Why don't the Western media report mass killings in Bahrain .I'm sure you people are not aware that the situation in Bahrain is similar to what's going on in in Syria ,but because Bahrain is a Us stooge the mass killings in Bahrain is being covered up.
Truth

UK

#38911 Apr 27, 2013
You know its very easy to pay someone to do something really stupid and so called Muslims are know exception.
Trucker

East Maitland, Australia

#38912 Apr 27, 2013
Truth wrote:
Why don't the Western media report mass killings in Bahrain .I'm sure you people are not aware that the situation in Bahrain is similar to what's going on in in Syria ,but because Bahrain is a Us stooge the mass killings in Bahrain is being covered up.
not covered up ! We have.had enough of Muslims blood and guts agendas of Islam . Ours is a Religion of Peace and even those of no religion have better credentials than Islam in the peace market . Muslims and Islam worldwide are the death and fire pits of hell. No one wants to hear anymore so maybe now that will stop fanning the flames of mass murders and genocide by Muslims in every country in the world , a blood lust of island that disgusts every non Muslims on the planet. False Religion ! Taqiyya ! Blood lust ! Leave at the exit lounge of the ME shit hole you fled or flock off back there . Game over !
Trucker

East Maitland, Australia

#38913 Apr 27, 2013
immigrant wrote:
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Imperialism vs. Islamism: A Vicious Circle
Any number of military and civilian intelligence studies have shown that the U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have generated more, not fewer, terrorists and more, not less “anti-Americanism”(meaning: outrage at all the lies, the torture, the Abu Ghraibs and Guantanamos, the “extraordinary renditions,” the insults to Islam ranging from Qur’an burnings to urinating on militants’ dead bodies, the incessant drone strikes, the support from the most oppressive regimes in the Middle East, the baseless threats against Iran, the slavish support for Israel as it continues to occupy Palestinian land and abuse Palestinians at will, etc.). There is really no question about it. One has to be as deeply in denial as the Tsarnaev boys’ mom to think otherwise.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah, LLOL
But you see, the media morons who reject such clear analysis as (weird, puzzling) self-hatred—a desire to “blame America first”—have to posit instead the “us versus them” theme and a narrative in which the Muslims attack us not for any wrongdoing on the part of the U.S. but because “they hate our freedoms.” They have to demand that we all shut down our minds, agree that Islam, not imperialism, is the fundamental problem—and then use more violence to contain the ongoing threat.
The war on terror, Dick Cheney predicted, would last beyond his lifetime. The neocons-led wars in the so-called “Greater Middle East” since 2001 indeed seem to constitute a new Crusade. Recall that the medieval Crusades lasted two hundred years, producing scars and resentment that remain to this day. Those wars focused specifically on religion, while these are waged by U.S. governments that deny any religious prejudices at all, even while relying on racism and religious bigotry to win support.
The Tsarnaev brothers deserve little sympathy. Their acts were vicious and unforgiveable. They were probably designed to inflict random pain, in retaliation for random pain.“An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth,” say both the Old Testament (Exodus 21:24) and the Qur’an (5:45). Those combining simplistic, bigoted thinking with a fundamental disregard for life targeted whole peoples for retribution after the 9/11 attacks, launching incomparably more destructive, more hate-producing assaults in its wake. It is hardly surprising that those assaulted respond, as best they can, with their “weapons of the weak” in kind.
It is not only radical Salafists who find it useful and justifiable to inflict terror on random civilians. What were the Tokyo bombings of World War II (that in the words of Gen. Curtis LeMay were designed to “scorch and boil and bake to death” 100,000 Japanese civilians); or the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, killing over 200,000 civilians; or the No Gun Ri Massacre in the Korean War; or the My Lai Massacre in the Vietnam War, but terrorist acts? Acts of calculated craziness, designed to horrify, to persuade the targeted that the U.S.A. can do whatever the hell it wants, following its own rules?
And what is the supposition that such actions will have no consequences, other than a dangerous illusion—one as baseless as the Tsarnaev brothers’ supposition that they could walk away from the crime scene smiling and go on with their lives as usual?
GARY LEUPP is Professor of History at Tufts University, and holds a secondary appointment in the Department of Religion. He is the author of Servants, Shophands and Laborers in in the Cities of Tokugawa Japan; Male Colors: The Construction of Homosexuality in Tokugawa Japan; and Interracial Intimacy in Japan: Western Men and Japanese Women, 1543-1900. He is a contributor to Hopeless: Barack Obama and the Politics of Illusion,(AK Press). He can be reached at: [email protected]
Did you understand anything criminal convicts? LLOL,LLOL,LLOL
Tomorrow ! Write yourself a note ! Take meds one hour before going online to topix.
Gabriel says

East Maitland, Australia

#38914 Apr 27, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
So do not meddle in Middle East affairs, vacate Iraq, Yemen, Libya,
Do not interfere with Iran, Syria and dismantle and take your precious child "Israel" out of harm's way.
Stay far away to stay safe!!
God is not with you. It is you that is not safe.
Gabriel says "you are born into the sin of islam"
but you "have been told the truth of things".
He says 'you know Muhammad is of the devil, a false god".
He says if you repent you can save your soul.
If you do not repent, "he will come as the angel with the three trumpet blasts, to smote you".
You will then burn in hell for eternity.

Anyway just passing the message on.
Trucker

East Maitland, Australia

#38915 Apr 27, 2013
Jackass Whisperer wrote:
When you people cut the rhetoric and start acting like civilised human beings you will be treated as such, your actions speak louder than a thousand words, while you act like aggressive barbaric animals you will be treated like animals. Don't tell us you are peaceful people and then go and blow up a market, you only look like fools when your actions are diametrically opposite to your words, don't you get it, you have lost all credibility with your vacuous rhetoric.
Highlighting the crimes of others does not lessen the crimes of yourselves nor give you an excuse to commit more crimes, as jesus said,“ don't be concerned with the splinter in your brothers eye when you have a beam in your own eye.”
does a dog know it is a dog ? does a pig know it is a pig ? A horse a horse ? Does a dog brag about sexual encounters and running threw the fields hunting ? Does the pig explain the luxury of rolling in its own shit ? Does a Muslim understand the difference between themselves and people of a ONE GOD ORDAINED RELIGION! That God has validated by his own word, not send a messenger coz he was playing golf the day Mohammed expected him ! Does a Muslim understand atheists love peace and good will like normal human beings and no interest in blood flowing in gutters and guts along footpaths and walls ? Do Muslims have any idea how disgusting , lying , murderous and evil the rest of the human race view them ? No !Muslims like other animals believe their shit is great, even though they account for over 90% of all murders, genocide and slaughter death on the planet in the last 20 years ! At their own hands ! Hands up who wants to join that ? Then one in ten of the people you love will be disembodied , beheaded, stoned , mutilated , burned or killed by the method of choice of that other Muslim you joined up to enjoy ! At the end of the day, Islam means the most horrific practices and murders on planet earth 9 times any other group including accidents, but Muslims don't live long enough to die by accident.
No a dog is a dog and that he loves. A human a human ! A pig a pig ! A Muslim a Muslim ! Next question ! Of all groups who is responsible, at their own hands of millions of deaths of Muslims? Which other group could ever compete ? None ! Hands down Islam departs more innocents on planet earth than all other groups combined by factor of 87 to 1 . If there is a God, would he be proud of Islam ? If there was a Satan , would he embrace Islam ? What does god stand for ? What does satan stand for ? What does Islam stand for ? Compare and consider !
nil

Mumbai, India

#38916 Apr 27, 2013
islam is threat to mankind.europe and americas should strictly ban entry of these bastards into their lands othrewise in few years they will convert whole world into islam and make nonislamics their slaves.all nonislamic countries should unite and eliminate this race once for all.
Trucker

East Maitland, Australia

#38917 Apr 27, 2013
Gabriel says wrote:
<quoted text>
God is not with you. It is you that is not safe.
Gabriel says "you are born into the sin of islam"
but you "have been told the truth of things".
He says 'you know Muhammad is of the devil, a false god".
He says if you repent you can save your soul.
If you do not repent, "he will come as the angel with the three trumpet blasts, to smote you".
You will then burn in hell for eternity.
Anyway just passing the message on.
in a nutshell ! That sums it up !
Trucker

East Maitland, Australia

#38919 Apr 27, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
So do not meddle in Middle East affairs, vacate Iraq, Yemen, Libya,
Do not interfere with Iran, Syria and dismantle and take your precious child "Israel" out of harm's way.
Stay far away to stay safe!!
looks like our precious child has defeated her entire 1.5 billion devil worshipers in the ME cess pits of hell ! According to your defeated diatribe ! Further more , sigh !
sid

Chermside, Australia

#38920 Apr 27, 2013
Trucker wrote:
<quoted text>does a dog know it is a dog ? does a pig know it is a pig ? A horse a horse ? Does a dog brag about sexual encounters and running threw the fields hunting ? Does the pig explain the luxury of rolling in its own shit ? Does a Muslim understand the difference between themselves and people of a ONE GOD ORDAINED RELIGION! That God has validated by his own word, not send a messenger coz he was playing golf the day Mohammed expected him ! Does a Muslim understand atheists love peace and good will like normal human beings and no interest in blood flowing in gutters and guts along footpaths and walls ? Do Muslims have any idea how disgusting , lying , murderous and evil the rest of the human race view them ? No !Muslims like other animals believe their shit is great, even though they account for over 90% of all murders, genocide and slaughter death on the planet in the last 20 years ! At their own hands ! Hands up who wants to join that ? Then one in ten of the people you love will be disembodied , beheaded, stoned , mutilated , burned or killed by the method of choice of that other Muslim you joined up to enjoy ! At the end of the day, Islam means the most horrific practices and murders on planet earth 9 times any other group including accidents, but Muslims don't live long enough to die by accident.
No a dog is a dog and that he loves. A human a human ! A pig a pig ! A Muslim a Muslim ! Next question ! Of all groups who is responsible, at their own hands of millions of deaths of Muslims? Which other group could ever compete ? None ! Hands down Islam departs more innocents on planet earth than all other groups combined by factor of 87 to 1 . If there is a God, would he be proud of Islam ? If there was a Satan , would he embrace Islam ? What does god stand for ? What does satan stand for ? What does Islam stand for ? Compare and consider !
Very good post, thanks, good on you.
Trucker

East Maitland, Australia

#38921 Apr 27, 2013
nil wrote:
islam is threat to mankind.europe and americas should strictly ban entry of these bastards into their lands othrewise in few years they will convert whole world into islam and make nonislamics their slaves.all nonislamic countries should unite and eliminate this race once for all.
muslims teenagers in Iraq " I'm bored lets make a bomb and kill as many people as we can " Teens in Yemen ! I'm bored lets make a bomb and kill as many people as we can " ! Teens in Egypt ! I'm bored lets make a bomb and kill as many people as we can " ! Teems in Syria ! I'm bored lets make a bomb and kill as many people as we can " Teens in Iran ! I'm bored lets make a bomb and kill as many people as we can " ! Teens in any Muslim country on the planet ! I'm bored lets make a bomb and kill as many people as we can " !!!! Wait !! Muslim teens in Boston USA! I'm bored lets make a bomb and kill as many people as we can " . Is there a common denominator here ? Islam ?

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#38922 Apr 27, 2013
god reclaims Church wrote:
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Very good, factual, relevant and interesting.
To the very heart of the topic, what do we have to fear from Islam...
Very little it seems, Islam is at war with itself and in collapse everywhere.
The destruction of the umayyd minaret is very much a metaphor for the collapse of islam, it was the first 'conquest' of Islam in it's original expansion. Now Syria, once the very centre of Islam is in chaos & civil war.
How long before the Umayyd mosque in Allepo will be converted back to be a Christian church ?
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Because without the minaret, that is what is is now. It's now reverted back to being what it was, the church of St John the Baptist.
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God has given a sign.
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The end of the evil of Islam is in sight.
It looks like the disciples of Islam have been sent out into the world to colonize and repopulate their warriors .

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#38923 Apr 27, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
So do not meddle in Middle East affairs, vacate Iraq, Yemen, Libya,
Do not interfere with Iran, Syria and dismantle and take your precious child "Israel" out of harm's way.
Stay far away to stay safe!!
Have a think of the cilizations since the Trojans who had as much rights to be of the lands that you speak of.
Take away religion and you are all no different.
You want peace ?
Renounce religion ,one and all of all of all of you .
MalbarCACA Controllers

Luton, UK

#38924 Apr 27, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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#38922 19 min ago

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We told you.
MalbarCACA Controllers

Luton, UK

#38925 Apr 27, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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#38923 19 min ago
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We told you.

“Australia's #1 Paleontologist”

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#38926 Apr 27, 2013
People in Australia isn't it past your bed time?

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#38927 Apr 27, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
The reality is totally different from what you have written, and it is Quran the “Most Reliable and Authentic book on the face of this testifies in following verses”
1.“We sent you not, but as a mercy of all Creatures, RAHMAT LIL- ALAMEEN is a very famous title of our Beloved Prophet.
2. And you stand on an exalted standard of Character (68:4)
3.“It is part of the Mercy of God that you deal gently with them…”(3:159)
Our prophet was so eager that people should accept his message, that he in fact God Almighty to console him, as the following verses from Quran reveal
4. We have not sent Quran to you to be (an occasion) for your distress, but only as an admonition to those who fear (God)“(20:2)
5.“You would only perchance fret yourself to death following after them in grief, if they believe not in this message”(18:6)
6.“it may be you will fret your soul with grief, that they do become believers”(36:3)
There are many such verses in Quran that show prophet’s extreme wish and his sorrow about those who did not believe in him.
So there was no “hardening of his heart” towards unbelievers as you said, but an extremely king person, who fret for people who reject his message that they are going to hell fire.
He was the “perfect example of what Jesus said “Hate Crime and not Criminals”
There are innumerable incidents in his life, when he not only pardoned his bitterest enemies, and on such occasions when he have them under full control and there was no one to stop him. I will give you some of these incidents.
a. He pardoned Abu SUFYAN and his Wife HIND, who were his bitterest enemies and gave him endless troubles. The way she mutilated the body of his uncle HAMZA.
And Hind herself said “Before tosay, your face was most unliked to me, but today it is the most beloved…”
b. Khalid the Son of Waleed, at whose hands he suffered the loss of so many of his companions, when he came to become Muslim, Prophet not only pardoned him, but made him commander of Islamic party going to fight.
c. The same attitude he showed to general populace of Makkah when he conquered it and to the people of Taif, who mistreated him.
d. He treated well those taken prisoners and those who were made slaves. He was most kind to women folk and little children used to play with him.
It is as Ali, his cousin said “Those who did not have any personal dealing with the prophet hated him, but once they came closer to him and dealt with him, started loving him.
But he was also an administrator of the nation and had to protect its boundaries and maintain law and order in the nation.
But even on these occasions, he was not cruel and never exceeded the does of punishment.
His dealings with Jews and Christians, never reached to the level of hate. He had trade and business relations with Jews even to the time of his death.
Your words did not answer my question.
Did Muhhumud feel a heavy heart when he had others not of Islam killed in battle.
How do you think god feels when mankind is seen to be killing others for the sake of their religion.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#38928 Apr 27, 2013
MalbarCACA Controllers wrote:
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We told you.
You and your imaginary self ?

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