Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

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About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area. Full Story
MalbarCACA Controllers

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#38327 Apr 1, 2013
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"MUQ",the world has been at war ever since religion commenced .
Look out into the world and see how many people have died because they believe their belief in god is stronger so all others are inferior so they must either join them or die.
Religion is guilty
Who cares?

^^^^Sorry about that, that nic was used to annoy a Mauritian troll attacking our Australian forum which includes the one attacking me and as well as to get the troll away from the Australian forum while using as many illogical fallacies as possibles to degrade him out.

More can be learnt via The Adelaidan and Aggrolite.

Come on MalbarCACA Roger - learn us.
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#38328 Apr 1, 2013
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MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#38329 Apr 1, 2013
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We Are at War (Contd.)
The War on Terror exploits the tragedy of September 11 for the benefit of a very few.

By Johnny Barber
“We are at War. Somebody is Going to Pay.” George W. Bush, Sept 11th, 2001.

84,000 American troops remain in Afghanistan. While the occupation is rarely mentioned in the U.S. mainstream media, that doesn’t mean the killing has stopped. On average, one U.S. soldier dies everyday. Not an enormous sum, unless it is your mother, father, son or daughter that has perished. Few Americans notice. Afghan loses are not reported. They have loved ones who grieve as well.

The American public has turned their attention to feeding their families, keeping their homes, and finding employment. But what of the $2 billion dollars per week we are spending on war in Afghanistan? What would $2 billion per week look like in our devastated communities, in our schools, in creating jobs or in caring for our elders? Politicians in both parties claim our first priority is to reduce the debt. If they were really serious, if they were honest, they would end this occupation and stop calling for cuts to Medicaid, Food Stamps, and Social Security.

And what is the price extracted from the Afghan people? Security is still a dream, even in Kabul. As I write this, 6 people have perished in a suicide bombing outside NATO headquarters, in the heart of Kabul. Several of them were impoverished street kids, peddling packs of gum to the westerners who frequent the area.

Hilary Clinton, Madeline Albright, Jan Schakowsky, and other prominent American women claim American forces are necessary in Afghanistan to protect the gains made in woman’s rights. On Sept 6th, Emma Graham-Harrison reported in the Guardian that 3 women in Kabul were attacked by a group of men because of their work as television actresses. One of the women was murdered. After seeking treatment at the hospital, the two survivors were taken to prison, where they face intrusive virginity tests and possible charges of prostitution or collusion in the attack. They face long prison sentences. This is not the Taliban; this is woman’s rights in Afghanistan today, rights that Hilary Clinton fears will be rolled back!

On the streets of Kabul it is not unusual to see burka clad women clutching starving children begging for spare change. Poverty and hunger is even worse in Kandahar and Helmand, areas that have seen some of the most intense fighting of the war. In southern Afghanistan 29.5% of the children are suffering from severe malnutrition. This compares to famine stricken areas of Africa, yet, officially, there is no famine in Afghanistan and hundreds of millions of dollars of humanitarian aid has flowed into the country.

In America, 35 million people are hungry or do not know where their next meal is coming from and 13 million of them are children. Who benefits from the “War on Terror”?
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#38330 Apr 1, 2013




On Sept 2nd, Hamid Karzai announced his choice for the new intelligence chief, Asadullah Khalid. Khalid is currently the country’s minister of tribal and border affairs who oversees its southern security forces. In 2009 Richard Colvin, Canada’s former deputy ambassador to Afghanistan, testified before Canada’s parliament that his team had uncovered “very credible” evidence of torture, which allegedly included Khalid’s direct involvement.“He was known to have had a dungeon in Ghazni, his previous province, where he used to detain people for money, and some of them disappeared,” Colvin said in his testimony.“He was known to be running a narcotics operation. He had a criminal gang. He had people killed who got in his way.” Khalid and Karzai dismiss the allegations as unfounded.

In Kabul, children freeze to death in the winter, and they starve to death all year round. Meanwhile on the edge of Kabul a “New City” is being built. Hamid Karzai’s brother, Qayum Karzai, the owner of a construction company, benefits as his company “wins” government contracts without the hassles of competitive bidding. Karzai’s relatives are also benefiting from lucrative contracts in the oil and mineral sectors. In late 2011, Watan Oil and Gas, a company controlled by President Karzai’s cousins Rateb and Rashid Popal gained a contract with China’s National Petroleum Corporation. In 1989 Rateb was convicted for smuggling drugs in the U.S. and spent more than eight years in prison.

The Popal family’s company, Watan Risk Management, also worked as a contractor for the US forces. In 2010, they were accused of paying off Taliban insurgents with a cut from NATO contracts. According to the NY Times, another brother, Ahmed Wali Karzai was involved in the heroin trade and was also on the CIA’s payroll for several years before his assassination in 2011. The Karzai family now brings in billions of dollars a year. 42% of Afghans live on less than a dollar a day. So we are bent on ridding Afghanistan of the Taliban while the government is full of warlords, gangsters, and drug dealers.

Since America’s intervention in Afghanistan, the heroin trade has exploded, doubling opium production. Afghanistan is now the source of 90% of the world’s heroin. This dovetail’s nicely with America’s “War on Drugs.”
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#38331 Apr 1, 2013
NT wrote:
"MUQ", the world has been at war ever since religion commenced .
Look out into the world and see how many people have died because they believe their belief in god is stronger so all others are inferior so they must either join them or die.
Religion is guilty
Ans.

Told you many times before that "very few" wars have been fought on the basis of religions.

Most of fights and wars have taken place because of human greed and their lust to exploit the wealth and resources of other nations.

Sometimes they just camouflage their true intention and give it a religious tint.

Islam never asks non believers to accept Islam or die. It asks them to stand clear from the path of Islam and do not create road blocks in its path of natural propagation. Islam only demands its right to be preached to people and every one should be left free to accept it.

Now coming back to the subject of wars, let us see for past 100 years, which religious issues / religions caused these major wars?

A WW-1?

B. WW-2?

C Korean War?

D. Vietnam War?

E. Arab Israel wars of 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973…..

F. Russian invasion of Afghanistan?

G. Kashmir conflict?

G1. Wars in Cambodia?

G2. Falkland War of 1982?

H. Iran / Iraq war 1979-1989?

J. Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in 1990 and Gulf War?

K. US invasion of Afghanistan in 2001?

L. US Invasion of Iraq in 2003?

Tell me which religious issues were at the bottom of these wars?

I can show you that most of the wars during past 100 years have been fought on non religious issues.

And the same is the case with most of earlier wars in earlier times also.

But people find it "convenient" to blame religions for most wars and get their conscience clear of the guilty feelings.

Your comment is therefore amateurish and lacks any conviction.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#38332 Apr 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
Told you many times before that "very few" wars have been fought on the basis of religions.
Most of fights and wars have taken place because of human greed and their lust to exploit the wealth and resources of other nations.
Sometimes they just camouflage their true intention and give it a religious tint.
Islam never asks non believers to accept Islam or die. It asks them to stand clear from the path of Islam and do not create road blocks in its path of natural propagation. Islam only demands its right to be preached to people and every one should be left free to accept it.
Now coming back to the subject of wars, let us see for past 100 years, which religious issues / religions caused these major wars?
A WW-1?
B. WW-2?
C Korean War?
D. Vietnam War?
E. Arab Israel wars of 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973…..
F. Russian invasion of Afghanistan?
G. Kashmir conflict?
G1. Wars in Cambodia?
G2. Falkland War of 1982?
H. Iran / Iraq war 1979-1989?
J. Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in 1990 and Gulf War?
K. US invasion of Afghanistan in 2001?
L. US Invasion of Iraq in 2003?
Tell me which religious issues were at the bottom of these wars?
I can show you that most of the wars during past 100 years have been fought on non religious issues.
And the same is the case with most of earlier wars in earlier times also.
But people find it "convenient" to blame religions for most wars and get their conscience clear of the guilty feelings.
Your comment is therefore amateurish and lacks any conviction.
Amateurish you say,you missed out a few that have been boiling over from Muhammad's death but then again you aren't all that professional in your memory of your history are you ?
Also, you are a big fibber !
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#38334 Apr 2, 2013
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DO NOT LEAVE IT FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER.
You are BUSTED and you are a REJECT in society whom no one wants to associate with.

Now go and find your hiding shit hole and hide your ass from NT too and from every benders you have been linked with B4.
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passing through

Australia

#38339 Apr 2, 2013
I WONDER IF YOU PIG MUNCHERS CAN READ, IF YOU CAN? THEN READ FOR YOUR END IS NIGH, NO MORE STEALING, PLUNDERING. MURDERING, SCREWING BOYS IN THE CHURCH, THEVING POLITICANS, ROBBER BANK BARRONS AND NOT EVEN PETTY LITTLE BOGAN 5 CENT TATOOED THIVES LIKE YOU PIG MUNCHERS, MUSLIMS ARE A COMMING, NO STOPPING THEM.....LLOL,LLOL,

APRIL 01, 2013

Bled Dry
The Collapse of the Anglo-Saxon Imperium
by PATRICK FOY
We are witnessing the slow-motion collapse of the second Anglo-Saxon imperium in less than a hundred years. There was something called Pax Britannica under the reign of Queen Victoria, a truly amazing transcontinental empire without peer in world history. That era was England’s apogee. Then, after the Queen’s diamond jubilee in June 1897, England’s prospects darkened, at first imperceptibly.
In the immediate aftermath of those two stupendous British Empire wars of the 20th Century–now known as World War I and World War II–both conveniently blamed on Germany, everything came crashing down. In short order, England was reduced to a zero, thanks to the venality, hubris and fatheadedness of its “elites”. The torch was grabbed by the second Anglo-Saxon power, in the person of our great white father, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and his gang of dedicated Reds and starry-eyed Anglophiles.
The upshot was apparent at the Bretton Woods conference in New Hampshire in July 1944. It was here that the victors of the second blood bath decided what the spoils were going to be. England, under the leadership of that unbalanced mountebank, Winston Churchill, was only a nominal victor. The true victors were Washington and world communism.
The former held all the cards outside the communist world, since old Europe and Japan had been left in shambles and partly incinerated. And the once great British Empire of palm and pine was now truly bankrupt, thanks to Churchill and the warmongering machinations of Lloyd George and Sir Edward Grey, among other misguided statesmen, before him.
Benn Steil, director of international economics at the Council on Foreign Relations, is cited in a New York Times article of October 26th, 2012, as suggesting that readers of the recently-uncovered transcripts of the Bretton Woods Conference would discover the British Empire disintegrating before their eyes.
The same Benn Steil has now written a book, The Battle of Bretton Woods. Tony Barber, the esteemed European editor of the Financial Times, reviewed it in the FT weekend edition of February 9th/10th, 2013. Barber remarks that “…Benn Steil explains how two world wars in 31 years bled Britain dry, leaving it with minimal influence over the new international economic and monetary order established by US policymakers in the mid-1940&#8242;s.”
The gentleman representing the US at Bretton Woods was Soviet master spy, Harry Dexter White, the son of Lithuanian Jewish immigrants. Representing Britain was the celebrity economist, John Maynard Keynes. Alas, the urbane Englishman was reduced to “…the status of an articulate annoyance.” Keynes had warned the Foreign Office not to let the US “…exploit the war as an opportunity for picking the eyes out of the British Empire.” But at that point, what choice did John Bull have? None. The Great Game was over.
In the same article, Barber goes on to review another book on a related topic.“In The Leaderless Economy, Peter Temin and David Vines extend the story that Steil concludes at Bretton Woods, charting the decline and fall of the US-dominated international order that it inaugurated. They contend that the world has not recovered from the banking crisis that erupted in 2008 largely because, unlike in the 1940s, no nation is powerful enough to guide the global economy towards prosperity.”
passing through

Australia

#38340 Apr 2, 2013
Barber quotes the authors, Professors Temin and Vines:“Like Britain roughly a century earlier, America has become part of the problem, not the solution.” It is unclear what exactly is being referenced here. The folly related to England’s participation in the Great War of August 1914, the disgraceful Treaty of Versailles in 1919 and its reparations regime, the inability of England to cope with the Great Depression of the 1930s, or British insolvency at the end of the Second World War? Let’s say all three. For my money, the key to everything right down to the present moment remains the Great War.
Does the average American realize that he and she are being bled dry by their own “elites” who suffer from a similar myopia and arrogance as the blockheads in Whitehall who gratuitously catapulted England into two world wars? Of course not. How could they? It is being kept under wraps. Those whose interests are being advanced directly and indirectly by current circumstances do not want the music to stop. Why should they blow the whistle on themselves? Instead, they go with the flow. Everyone in Washington follows the line of least resistance.
Remember the “Peace Dividend”? That was supposed to be America’s reward for winning the Cold War in 1990/1991. Resources would be freed up to use on the home front. But something happened to derail the dividend. What was it? Oh, yes. Saddam Hussein invaded the city-state of Kuwait on August 2nd, 1990. Saddam had misinterpreted the mixed signals sent from his then-ally, America. Washington had abetted Iraq’s war on Iran for nearly a decade. With Iraq’s annexation of Kuwait, Washington was off to the races again. A full-blown crusade was the result.
In the process, half a million Iraqi children were left dead due to the economic embargo imposed by Bush I and Bill Clinton. In the process, America got hit with the atrocity of 9/11. In the process, a disarmed Iraq was targeted for “shock and awe” and overrun as part of the Global War on Terror. GWOT was the private agenda war masterminded by the Neocons for Dick Cheney & Bush II. That private agenda war continues unabated under Barack Obama, who is considered to be some sort of “progressive”.
Concurrently, Afghanistan/Pakistan became a battleground and a hotbed of terrorism. It remains a quagmire for American and NATO troops. Meanwhile, as if more problems were needed, Washington policymakers loudly and shamelessly repeat the false accusation that Iran is running a nuclear weapons program.
G.W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and Barack Obama knew that accusation was false. Their own intelligence community told them so in writing. Ditto Seymour Hersh in the pages of The New Yorker. No matter. The establishment media does not bark. The campaign against Iran is a rerun of Iraq.
Finally, just the other day somewhere in Palestine, Obama fulsomely embraced Theodor Herzl and his acolytes, thereby rationalizing and condoning the wholesale dispossession of Palestinians forever. Who noticed? It was the line of least resistance as well as Obama’s ticket to the greatest personal reward. No surprise.
America is at war, all right. Yet another unnecessary war of choice. We are being bled dry like England before us. Chalk up a second global Anglo-Saxon ascendancy thrown away and destroyed thanks to the chicanery of foolish men.
PATRICK FOY is an essayist and short story writer as well as a former altar boy. He graduated from Canterbury School in New Milford, Connecticut and from Columbia University in New York City, where he studied English literature, European history and American diplomatic history. His work can be found at www.PatrickFoyDossier.com .
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#38341 Apr 2, 2013
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Amateurish you say,you missed out a few that have been boiling over from Muhammad's death but then again you aren't all that professional in your memory of your history are you ?
Also, you are a big fibber !
I was referring to wars in the past 100 years and you are unable to prove that any major war was fought on religious ground.

You could go back to any period in time and verify that "Very few" wars were fought on purely religious basis.

There are many factors, which rulers / kings / Popes camouflage by taking the name of religions.

But on propaganda level, they cry that it is religions which are source of fighting and wars.

Some of the biggest massacres were committed in those so called Communist countries....which religion was responsible for those massacres.

That is why I called your comments as amateurish, I should have called them Childish to be more exact.

And now you went back to the time of our prophet directly. Do not start in the reverse order.

Start with our present times....and then check and verify wars in 100 years period..

If you do proper research, the conclusion would be "very few wars" in the world have been fought on purely religious issues.

It is not the religions which are responsible for wars and killings of humans.....it is the desire of nations to exploit material , agriculture and natural resources of other nations / people , this is Real Cause of Most wars in the world.

Since the dawn of human civilization till our time.

Very few wars which were fought on purely religious issues, involved Prophets of God and their Righteous Followers..... but these wars could be counted on finger tips.
Kaka The Street Pig

Australia

#38342 Apr 2, 2013
Take you back passing wind ?

I miss those Cesspools, I loved them when playing as a kid. Sometimes if we were lucky, we could stab a floating swollen Dead Dog and get the gas out of it for a laugh, O those were the days.....
When I was just a little Monkey.....

and you forgot your LOL LOL LOL lol lol's
GFC

Blacktown, Australia

#38343 Apr 2, 2013
Could anyone shed a bit of light on what this actually means in layman's terms ?

http://www.al-islam.org/laws/marriage1.html

2414.* If a baligh person commits sodomy with a boy , the mother, sister and daughter of the boy become haraam for him. And the same law applies when the person on whom sodomy is committed is an adult male, or when the person committing sodomy is na-baligh. But if one suspects or doubts whether penetration occurred or not, then the said woman would not become haraam.

2415.* If a person marries the mother or sister of a boy, and commits sodomy with the boy after the marriage, as a precaution, they will become haraam for him.
wesley

Cocoa, FL

#38344 Apr 2, 2013
MalbarCACA Controllers wrote:
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Who cares?
^^^^Sorry about that, that nic was used to annoy a Mauritian troll attacking our Australian forum which includes the one attacking me and as well as to get the troll away from the Australian forum while using as many illogical fallacies as possibles to degrade him out.
More can be learnt via The Adelaidan and Aggrolite.
Come on MalbarCACA Roger - learn us.
yes,religion is at the core of a lot of things.they all say,MY TRUTH IS THE REAL TRUTH AND THE ONLY TRUTH,if you look back in the times of the bible,wow,they were even more violent then today if that is possible,in fact the human race is very violent,and it is hard to be peaceful when a religious country tries to shovel allah or any religion down your throat and then if you do not stand up and fight as a nation these mentally insane people will use it as a weakness and call jihad against the peaceful to,CONVERT,them to the so called true and only religion of god.most religion is mostly primitive dogma put here to control us.a lot of religious people like muslims are spiritualy corrupt and empty.now tell me,WHAT GOD,if any tells the people go forth and kill in my name,and commit unspeakable attrosities in my name,none unless this so called god is insane and/or evil.

Since: Apr 13

Australia

#38345 Apr 2, 2013
Is Allah the same god as the Christians? well lets compare there prophets shall we.

Mohammed Said Allah hates those who don't accept Islam.
(Qur'an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38)
Jesus Said God loves everyone.
(John 3:16)

mohummed said"I have been commanded to fight
against people till they testify that there
is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad
is the messenger of Allah"
(Muslim 1:33)
Jesus said "He who lives by the sword
will die by the sword."
(Matthew 26:52)

mohummed Stoned women for adultery.
(Muslim 4206)
Jesus said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
(John 8:7)

mohummed Permitted stealing from unbelievers.
(Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764)
Jesus said "Thou shalt not steal."
(Matthew 19:18)

mohummed Permitted lying.
(Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857)
Jesus said "Thou shalt not bear false witness."
(Matthew 19:18)

mohummed Owned and traded slaves.
(Sahih Muslim 3901)
Jesus Neither owned nor traded slaves.

mohummed Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys.
(Sahih Muslim 4390)
Jesus Beheaded no one.

mohummedMurdered those who insulted him.
(Bukhari 56:369, 4:241)
Jesus Preached forgiveness.
(Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38)

mohummed said"If then anyone transgresses
the prohibition against you,
Transgress ye likewise against him"
(Qur'an 2:194)
Jesus said "If someone strikes you on the right
cheek, turn to him the other also."
(Matthew 5:39)

mohummed said Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold.
(Muslim 4645)
Jesus said "Blessed are the peacemakers, for
they will be called Sons of God"
(Matthew 5:9)

mohummed Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves.
(Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50)
Jesus Was celibate.

mohummed Slept with a 9-year-old child.
(Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236)
Jesus Did not have sex with children.

mohummed Ordered the murder of women.
(Ibn Ishaq 819, 995)
Jesus Never harmed a woman.

mohummed said"O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you
and let them find in you hardness."
(Qur'an 9:123)
Jesus said"Blessed are the meek, for
they shall inherit the earth."
(Matthew 5:5)

mohummed Ordered 65 military campaigns
and raids in his last 10 years.
(Ibn Ishaq )
Jesus Ordered no military campaigns, nor
offered any approval of war or violence.

mohummed Killed captives taken in battle.
(Ibn Ishaq 451)
Jesus Never took captives.Never killed anyone.

mohummed Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women.
(Abu Dawood 2150, Qur'an 4:24)
Jesus Never encouraged rape.Never enslaved women.

mohummed Demanded captured slaves and
a fifth of all other loot taken in war.
(Qur'an 8:41)
Jesus"The Son of Man came not
to be served, but to serve."
(Matthew 20:28)

mohummed Was never tortured, but tortured others.
(Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764)
Jesus Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone.

mohummed said"And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah"
(Qur'an 8:39)
Jesus said "Love your enemies and pray
for those who persecute you"
(Matthew 5:44)

mohummed Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man
(al-Tabari 1440)
Jesus Healed a blind man (Mark 8:28)

mohummed Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit
from which he preached Islam.
(Bukhari 47:743)
Jesus Washed his disciples feet.
(John 13:5)

mohummed said What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause"
(Muslim 1:149)
Jesus said What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself."
(Matthew 22:34-40)

mohummed Died fat and wealthy from what was
taken from others in war or demanded from others in tribute.
Jesus Demanded nothing for himself.
Died without possessions.

mohummed Advocated crucifying others.
(Qur'an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131)
Jesus Was crucified himself.

mohummed According to his followers:
Had others give their lives for him.
(Sahih Muslim 4413)
Jesus According to his followers:
Gave his life for others.
(John 18:11 and elsewhere)
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#38346 Apr 2, 2013
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We Are at War (Contd.)
The War on Terror exploits the tragedy of September 11 for the benefit of a very few.

By Johnny Barber
“We are at War. Somebody is Going to Pay.” George W. Bush, Sept 11th, 2001.

The growth in the heroin trade coupled with the despair of daily living has contributed to an eruption of drug addiction. Addicts can be found huddled under bridges throughout Kabul. As these men succumb to addiction, their families are left to fend for themselves. Heroin floods the streets of Europe and Russia. Which banks benefit from the enormous cash flows generated by the heroin trade? Who in the Afghan government benefits?

The corruption is mind-boggling. We support terrorist elements, most recently in Syria and Libya, but before that in Iraq, Bosnia, Kosovo, and Afghanistan, and then find ourselves fighting them down the road. In a reversal of our usual modus operandi, it has come to light that during the Bush years the CIA tortured numerous members of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), an armed Islamist Group that had worked to overthrow Gaddafi for 20 years, before transferring them to Gaddafi’s regime for further torture. Some of these same fighters rendered and tortured by America and Libya now hold key leadership posts in the “liberated” Libya.

Private interests in Saudi Arabia continue to fund Sunni extremists around the world. Wikileaks released a Dec. 2009 cable from the State Department that complained that Saudi donors remain the primary financiers of militant groups like Al-Qaeda. In May 2010, the Sunday Times of London revealed that the Afghan Financial Intelligence Unit, FinTRACA, reported that since 2006 at least 1.5 billion dollars from Saudi Arabia was funneled to the Taliban in Afghanistan, with Al-Qaeda withholding a cut for their delivery services. Why is there no outcry from the U.S.?

In 2011 overseas weapons sales by the United States totaled $66.3 billion, or more than three-quarters of the global arms market. Russia was second, with $4.8 billion in deals. Who benefits from the War on Terror and who benefits when America threatens war?

Over half of the sales, or $33.4 billion, consisted of arms sales to Saudi Arabia. These sales included F-15 fighter jets, dozens of Apache and Black Hawk helicopters, as well as an array of missiles, bombs and delivery systems, as well as accessories such as night-vision goggles and radar warning systems. These sales offset the flow of US dollars to pay for Saudi oil, and this explains why there is no outrage directed toward the Saudi regime.

The War on Terror exploits the tragedy of September 11 for the benefit of a very few. Poor people continue to pay an enormous price, while the elites, including our own government and the corporations it answers to, ignore everything but the influx of cash into their coffers. The war business is profitable if you refuse to count the cost of human lives.

MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#38347 Apr 2, 2013
In his acceptance speech for the Democratic nomination for President, Obama said,“Our destinies are bound together. A freedom which only asks what’s in it for me, a freedom without a commitment to others, a freedom without love or charity, is unworthy of our founding ideals.” In closing, he said,“We travel together. We leave no one behind. We pull each other up.” Why is it our Presidents fail to include those they bomb in their lofty sentiments? The simple truth is our destinies are bound together with those who lie beyond the borders of our country as well.

A young, educated Afghan man, an advisor to Parliament, sees the corruption of his government and despairs. He asks me,“What is my share in this world?” He continues,“Absolutely nothing. And for my child, the same.” His voice trails off. We sit drinking tea as night comes on.

Johnny Barber is writing from Kabul where he is a guest of the Afghan Peace Volunteers in Kabul. To learn more, visit www.oneBrightpearl-jb.blogspot.com and www.oneBrightpearl.com
Conner

Sydney, Australia

#38348 Apr 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
In his acceptance speech for the Democratic nomination for President, Obama said,“Our destinies are bound together. A freedom which only asks what’s in it for me, a freedom without a commitment to others, a freedom without love or charity, is unworthy of our founding ideals.” In closing, he said,“We travel together. We leave no one behind. We pull each other up.” Why is it our Presidents fail to include those they bomb in their lofty sentiments? The simple truth is our destinies are bound together with those who lie beyond the borders of our country as well.
A young, educated Afghan man, an advisor to Parliament, sees the corruption of his government and despairs. He asks me,“What is my share in this world?” He continues,“Absolutely nothing. And for my child, the same.” His voice trails off. We sit drinking tea as night comes on.
Johnny Barber is writing from Kabul where he is a guest of the Afghan Peace Volunteers in Kabul. To learn more, visit www.oneBrightpearl-jb.blogspot.com and www.oneBrightpearl.com
We don't care what you say, but the fact remains Muslim country's are dysfunctional.

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