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Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46810 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#38347 Apr 2, 2013
In his acceptance speech for the Democratic nomination for President, Obama said,“Our destinies are bound together. A freedom which only asks what’s in it for me, a freedom without a commitment to others, a freedom without love or charity, is unworthy of our founding ideals.” In closing, he said,“We travel together. We leave no one behind. We pull each other up.” Why is it our Presidents fail to include those they bomb in their lofty sentiments? The simple truth is our destinies are bound together with those who lie beyond the borders of our country as well.

A young, educated Afghan man, an advisor to Parliament, sees the corruption of his government and despairs. He asks me,“What is my share in this world?” He continues,“Absolutely nothing. And for my child, the same.” His voice trails off. We sit drinking tea as night comes on.

Johnny Barber is writing from Kabul where he is a guest of the Afghan Peace Volunteers in Kabul. To learn more, visit www.oneBrightpearl-jb.blogspot.com and www.oneBrightpearl.com
Conner

Sydney, Australia

#38348 Apr 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
In his acceptance speech for the Democratic nomination for President, Obama said,“Our destinies are bound together. A freedom which only asks what’s in it for me, a freedom without a commitment to others, a freedom without love or charity, is unworthy of our founding ideals.” In closing, he said,“We travel together. We leave no one behind. We pull each other up.” Why is it our Presidents fail to include those they bomb in their lofty sentiments? The simple truth is our destinies are bound together with those who lie beyond the borders of our country as well.
A young, educated Afghan man, an advisor to Parliament, sees the corruption of his government and despairs. He asks me,“What is my share in this world?” He continues,“Absolutely nothing. And for my child, the same.” His voice trails off. We sit drinking tea as night comes on.
Johnny Barber is writing from Kabul where he is a guest of the Afghan Peace Volunteers in Kabul. To learn more, visit www.oneBrightpearl-jb.blogspot.com and www.oneBrightpearl.com
We don't care what you say, but the fact remains Muslim country's are dysfunctional.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/02/p...

The rest is Hot Air.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#38349 Apr 2, 2013
Conner wrote:
<quoted text>
We don't care what you say, but the fact remains Muslim country's are dysfunctional.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/02/p...
The rest is Hot Air.
You only CARE about what you think of Muslims.

It does not matter, what are the realities.

This in indeed Hot air and nothing else.
Lucky Larry Silverstein

Armadale, Australia

#38350 Apr 3, 2013
Muslims are the dirt under my shoes.

Israel will take Gaza.
Conner

Australia

#38351 Apr 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
You only CARE about what you think of Muslims.
It does not matter, what are the realities.
This in indeed Hot air and nothing else.
"You only CARE about what you think of Muslims."

A. I don't care about Muslims, I care about how Muslims try to change our Australian laid back way of life.

"It does not matter, what are the realities."

A. Realities do matter, where you get that idea is beyond belief.

"This in indeed Hot air and nothing else."

A. The HOT AIR is what we want to avoid. We don't want our city's to become like yours. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013...
Kafir

Malmö, Sweden

#38352 Apr 3, 2013
Thanks Jake Bradock for exposing Mr. Mo as one who comes to steal, kill and destroy.

Even for the unlearned it’s clear who it is that just got exposed.
Jake Bradock wrote:
Is Allah the same god as the Christians? well lets compare there prophets shall we...
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#38353 Apr 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
You only CARE about what you think of Muslims.
It does not matter, what are the realities.
This in indeed Hot air and nothing else.
MUQ, after over 38,000 Posts, don't you understand nobody likes Muslims.

The West does not like Muslims, they do not want Muslims in their countries and they wish Muslims would just stay in the sh^thole countries that they built for themselves!!

And don't come to Western Forums to tell us how great you muslims are!! You Muslims have shown us westerners that your just a bunch of useless barbarians that like to have western people to look after you..

Since: Apr 13

Australia

#38354 Apr 3, 2013
MUQ, your time would be better spent preching to your fellow muslims around the world perverting the intention of your religion rather than trying to justify to us why we should concider islam given all the destruction, rapeing and killing done in its name.

You try to convince us of our evils whilst holding a far greater evil up to us to lure us in.....for shame.
Gerrard

Australia

#38355 Apr 3, 2013
MUQ As usual, what can we expect from the the children of Bad upbringing,

http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2012/09
/16/1226475/221579-sydney-riot .jpg

Detective Inspector Paul Arnold said the thieves, believed to be of Mediterranean or Middle Eastern appearance, targeted Ms Timson because she was pregnant.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/lifestyle/ba...

We don't want Criminal Racists here.
Gerrard

Australia

#38356 Apr 3, 2013
Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

The court heard Elomar was among a group of 20 men - including an armed man - who assaulted Juicylicious juice bar owner Ali Issawi on June 28. He also threatened to burn down the juice bar

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/ahmed-e...

Jail the Criminal.
penguin poop

Kansas City, MO

#38357 Apr 3, 2013
Most crimes are commited by ethnics and yet they make up a small amount of the total population.

Since: Apr 13

Ipswich, Australia

#38359 Apr 3, 2013
Yet another Islamic cleric recently made it permissible for the Islamic fighters waging a jihad in Syria—politely known as “the opposition”—to rape the nation’s women.


‘Ajlawni: Justifying rape in Islam’s name

Salafi Sheikh Yasir al-‘Ajlawni, a Jordanian of origin who earlier lived in Damascus, Syria for 17 years, posted a YouTube video last week where he said he was preparing to issue a “legitimate fatwa” making it legal (in the eyes of Islam) for those Muslims fighting to topple secular president Bashar Assad and install Sharia law to “capture and have sex with” all non-Sunni women, specifically naming Assad’s own sect, the Alawites, as well as the Druze and several others, in short, all non-Sunnis and non-Muslims.

The sheikh used Islam’s legitimate Arabic term for these hapless, non-Muslim women, melk al-yamin, a phrase that appears in Islam’s sacred book, the Koran, and which is simply a reference to non-Muslim sex-slaves. For example, Koran 4:3 commands Muslim men to “Marry such women as seem good to you, two and three and four… or what your right hands possess.” Islam’s ulema, or “scholars,” are unanimously agreed that “what your right hands possess” is, according to Islamic law, simply a sex-slave. Linguistic evidence further suggests that she is seen more as an animal or a possession than a human—hence this inhuman fatwa.

Jordanian Sheih Yasir al-‘Ajlawni is certainly not the first cleric to legitimize the rape of infidel women in recent times. Calls to capture and rape non-Muslim women are appearing with increasing frequency from all corners of the Islamic world.

A few months earlier, Saudi preacher Muhammad al-Arifi also issued a fatwa allowing jihadi fighters to engage in “intercourse marriage” with captive Syrian women that lasts for a few hours “in order to give each fighter a turn”—also known as gang-rape.

Then there is Egyptian Sheikh Ishaq Huwaini, who once lectured on how infidel captives, or to use another term from the Koran, ghanima, the “spoils of war,” are to be distributed among the jihadis and taken to “the slave market, where slave-girls and concubines are sold.” He, too, referred to such women as “what your right hands possess,” saying:“You go to the market and buy her, and she becomes like your legal mate—though without a contract, a guardian, or any of that stuff—and this is agreed upon by the ulema…. In other words, when I want a sex-slave, I go to the market and pick whichever female I desire and buy her.”

Indeed, even some Muslim women advocate the enslavement and rape of fellow (non-Muslim) women. Kuwaiti political activist, Salwa al-Mutairi, for instance, is working to see the institution of sex-slavery return. In a video she posted online, she explained how she once asked Islam’s greatest authorities living in the city of Mecca, the city of Islam, about the legality of sex-slavery and how they all confirmed it to be perfectly legitimate. According to Mutairi:


A Muslim state must [first] attack a Christian state—sorry, I mean any non-Muslim state—and they [the women, the future sex-slaves] must be captives of the raid. Is this forbidden? Not at all; according to Islam, sex slaves are not at all forbidden. Quite the contrary, the rules regulating sex-slaves differ from those for free women [i.e., Muslim women]: the latter’s body must be covered entirely, except for her face and hands, whereas the sex-slave is kept naked from the bellybutton on up—she is different from the free woman; the free woman has to be married properly to her husband, but the sex-slave—he just buys her and that’s that.

Since: Apr 13

Ipswich, Australia

#38360 Apr 3, 2013
Theres another difference between Christianity and islam.

A preacher cant call a fatwa to all Christians allowing them to rape innocent women because even the stupidest Christian knows its agains the laws of Christianity.

Yet muslim clerics all around the world are calling there followers to do the vilest things in the name of there religion.

Now....some muslims will try to tell us that rapeing women is not allowed , so where there out rage ? wheres there threats of retribution to the clerics who are perverting the image of there religion???

The answer is...there not perverting there religion, there practising it as muhummed commands
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#38361 Apr 3, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

The Declining West: Tragedy or Comedy?

By Paul Craig Roberts

September 10, 2012 "Information Clearing House" -- During the Vietnam War, Sweden was an independent country with a moral conscience, and Sweden gave sanctuary to US war protestors who refused the draft. Washington realized the cost to itself and purchased the Swedish government in order to prevent a reoccurrence of moral conscience on the part of any Western government.

In the aftermath of World War II and during the subsequent decades of the Cold War with the Soviet Union, the Western nations presented themselves as the moral conscience of the world. It turns out that this was largely a hoax. The “Western nations” are merely pawns complicit in Washington’s crimes as Washington attempts to shut down all information in its pursuit of world hegemony.

Mark Weisbrot writing in Aljazeera has this to say about Washington’s use of its puppet government in Sweden to pursue Julian Assange for publishing leaked documents that reveal Washington’s mendacity and deception of other countries: http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012...

“There is a wealth of evidence that the US is very much interested in punishing Assange, and it keeps growing: on August 18, the Sydney Morning Herald reported that Australia's foreign service was aware that US authorities had been pursuing Assange for at least 18 months. And on August 24, Craig Murray, a former UK ambassador and 20-year career diplomat there, reported that his colleagues at the UK foreign office knew better than to make the unprecedented threat of invading Ecuador's embassy, but did so under pressure from Washington.

“Like many European countries, including of course the UK, Sweden's foreign policy is closely allied with that of the US government. This is not the first time that Sweden has collaborated with its Washington allies to violate human rights and international law. In 2001, the Swedish government turned over two Egyptians to the CIA so that they could be sent to Egypt, where they were tortured.

“Sweden's action brought condemnation from the UN and the government was forced to pay damages to the victims; both were later cleared of any wrongdoing. Polls showed that Swedes considered this crime the worst political scandal in their country in 20 years.

“Sweden is a highly developed social democracy that has many guarantees of civil rights and liberties to its citizens. The people of Sweden should not allow their government to continue to disgrace itself in another international governmental crime - this one a pernicious attack on freedom of expression - simply because Washington wants them to do so.”

Washington or Israel--essentially the same thing--has caused the puppet government in Canada to end Canada’s diplomatic relations with Iran for no reason whatsoever. The Canadian Foreign Minister John Baird in an unusual show of ignorance, even for him, condemned Iran as a “threat to global security.” No intelligent person could possibly believe that Iran comprises a threat to global security.

Look at John Baird. He even looks like a madcap idiot. What has become of Canadians who once were an intelligent tolerant people that they put in office madmen? Baird, after being informed by his staff that Iran lacked the oomph to be a global security threat, changed his reason and insisted that he broke off diplomatic relations with Iran because of Iran’s hostility toward Israel. This brought Canada’s moronic foreign minister even louder laughter. It is Israel that has been threatening Iran with military attack and demanding that the US join in, not Iran threatening Israel with attack.

Western nations have become a caricature of hypocrisy. If Western countries weren’t armed with nuclear weapons, the larger world would be rolling in laughter.
passing through

Australia

#38362 Apr 4, 2013
Jake Bradock wrote:
Theres another difference between Christianity and islam.
A preacher cant call a fatwa to all Christians allowing them to rape innocent women because even the stupidest Christian knows its agains the laws of Christianity.
Yet muslim clerics all around the world are calling there followers to do the vilest things in the name of there religion.
Now....some muslims will try to tell us that rapeing women is not allowed , so where there out rage ? wheres there threats of retribution to the clerics who are perverting the image of there religion???
The answer is...there not perverting there religion, there practising it as muhummed commands
you didn't mention the major difference where your priests are required to screw little boys to get qualifications to give "fukwa" you ignorant dumarse bogan convict LOL,LOL,
Kafir

Malmö, Sweden

#38363 Apr 4, 2013
MUQ, the topic here is why Australians or anyone with a sound mind should fear the mind-pathogen Islam or fear people who are already suffering from the condition.

It’s not conspiracy theories, which Muslims excel in when exposed, which we are discussing here.

MUQ, there is nothing more stupid than doing or following the same thing again and again and expecting a different result. You should by now have grasped what it is you are following and the serpent hiding behind it. Try to absorb some wisdom please.

Passing Through, in the Bible sins and transgressions are punished no matter what the title. Jesus pronounces some of His harshest words against people transgressing children. This could be added to the comparison list above. FYI,the priest isn't standing before you for judgement but before Jesus to whom all judgement has been given - and it will be no joke.
Camel Smoker

Australia

#38364 Apr 4, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...
The Declining West: Tragedy or Comedy?
By Paul Craig Roberts

“Like many European countries, including of course the UK, Sweden's foreign policy is closely allied with that of the US government. This is not the first time that Sweden has collaborated with its Washington allies to violate human rights and international law. In 2001, the Swedish government turned over two Egyptians to the CIA so that they could be sent to Egypt, where they were tortured.
“Sweden's action brought condemnation from the UN and the government was forced to pay damages to the victims; both were later cleared of any wrongdoing. Polls showed that Swedes considered this crime the worst political scandal in their country in 20 years.
“Sweden is a highly developed social democracy that has many guarantees of civil rights and liberties to its citizens. The people of Sweden should not allow their government to continue to disgrace itself in another international governmental crime - this one a pernicious attack on freedom of expression - simply because Washington wants them to do so.”
Washington or Israel--essentially the same thing--has caused the puppet government in Canada to end Canada’s diplomatic relations with Iran for no reason whatsoever. The Canadian Foreign Minister John Baird in an unusual show of ignorance, even for him, condemned Iran as a “threat to global security.” No intelligent person could possibly believe that Iran comprises a threat to global security.
Look at John Baird. He even looks like a madcap idiot. What has become of Canadians who once were an intelligent tolerant people that they put in office madmen? Baird, after being informed by his staff that Iran lacked the oomph to be a global security threat, changed his reason and insisted that he broke off diplomatic relations with Iran because of Iran’s hostility toward Israel. This brought Canada’s moronic foreign minister even louder laughter. It is Israel that has been threatening Iran with military attack and demanding that the US join in, not Iran threatening Israel with attack.
Western nations have become a caricature of hypocrisy. If Western countries weren’t armed with nuclear weapons, the larger world would be rolling in laughter.
The Declining East t: Tragedy or Comedy?

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2013/04/20...

Now there's the Joke.

Muq must be time for Muslims to attack and slaughter other Muslims Children, its been 4 days ?

So wheres the tragedy ?
passing through

Australia

#38366 Apr 4, 2013
I WONDER WHY YOU CONVICTS NEVER COMMENT ON THE TRUTH I POST FROM YOUR OWN SOURCES.

IS IT BECAUSE YOU ARE ASHAMED OF BEING THIEVES (STOLEN LANDS) MURDERERS,(TRYING TO STEAL RESOURCES FROM OTHERS AND IN THE PROCESS MUSLIMS HAVE STUCK YOU ERECT GUNS UP YOUR ARSES AND YOU ARE RUNNING LIKE COWARDS PANSIES THAT YOU ARE,REMEMBER IRAQ,AFGHANISTAN,PAKISTAN LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, WELL HERE IS MORE GOOD NEWS AND IT IS MUCH CLOSER TO YOUR UGLY NATURE..........

APRIL 03, 2013

Truth is Offensive
America, Land of the Lost
by PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
In America truth is offensive, If you tell the truth, you are offensive.
I am offensive. Michael Hudson is offensive. Gerald Celente is offensive. Herman Daly is offensive. Nomi Prins is offensive. Pam Martens is offensive. Chris Hedges is offensive. Chris Floyd is offensive. John Pilger is offensive. Norm Chomsky is offensive. Harvey Silverglate is offensive. Naomi Wolf is offensive. Stephen Lendman is offensive. David Ray Griffin is offensive. Ellen Brown is offensive.
Fortunately, many others are offensive. But how long before being offensive becomes
being “an enemy of the state”?
Throughout history truth tellers have suffered and court historians have prospered. It is the same today. Gerald Celente illustrates this brilliantly in the next issue of the Trends Journal.
Over the past 35 years I have learned this lesson as a columnist. If you tell readers
what is really going on, they want to know why you can’t be positive. Why are you telling us that there are bad happenings that can’t be remedied? Don’t you know that God gave Americans the power to fix all wrongs? What are you? Some kind of idiot, an anti-American, a pinko-liberal-commie? If you hate America so much, why don’t you move to Cuba, Iran or China (or to wherever the current bogyman is located)?
The ancient Greeks understood this well. In Greek mythology, Cassandra was the prophetess who no one believed despite her 100 percent record of being right. Telling the truth to Americans or to Europeans is just as expensive as telling the truth to the Greeks in ancient mythology.
In America and everywhere in the Western world or the entire world, telling the truth is unpopular. Indeed, in the USA telling the truth has been criminalized. Look for example at Bradley Manning, held for two years in prison without bail and without a trial in violation of the US Constitution, tortured for one year of his illegal confinement in violation of US and international law, and now put on trial by corrupt prosecutors for aiding “enemies of the US” by revealing the truth, as required of him by the US military code. US soldiers are required to report war crimes. When Bradley Manning’s superiors showed themselves to be indifferent to war crimes, Manning reported the crimes via WikiLeaks. What else does a soldier with a sense of duty and a moral conscience do when the chain of command is corrupt?
Julian Assange is another example. WikiLeaks has taken up the reporting function that the Western media has abandoned. Remember, the New York Times did publish the Pentagon Papers in 1971, which undermined the lies Washington had told both to the public and to Congress to justify the costly Vietnam War. But today no
newspaper or TV channel any longer accepts the responsibility to truthfully inform the public.
Julian Assange stepped into the vacuum and was immediately demonized, not merely by Washington but also by left-wing and right-wing media, including Internet. It was a combination of jealousy, ignorance, and doing Washington’s bidding.
passing through

Australia

#38367 Apr 4, 2013
Without WikiLeaks and Assange the world would know essentially nothing. Spin from Washington, the presstitute media, and the puppet state medias would prevail. So the word went out to destroy Julian Assange.
It is amazing how many people and Internet sites obeyed Washington’s command. Assange has been so demonized that even though he has been granted political asylum by Ecuador, the British government, obeying its Washington master, refuses to allow him safe passage out of the London Ecuador Embassy. Is Assange destined to live out his life inside the Ecuador Embassy in London?
Will Assange be a replay of Cardinal Jozsef Mindszenty who on November 4, 1956, sought asylum in the US embassy in Budapest as Soviet tanks poured into Hungary to put down the anti-communist revolution? Cardinal Mindszenty lived for 15 years in the US embassy. Today it is “freedom and democracy” amerika that is copying Soviet practices during the cold war.
In contrast with “freedom and democracy” US and UK, the “authoritarian,”“communist,”“o ppressive” Chinese government when confronted with Chinese dissident Chen Guangcheng’s defection to the US embassy in Beijing, let him go.
It is an upside down world when America and the British refuse to obey international law, but the Chinese communists uphold international law.
Insouciant Americans are undisturbed that alleged terrorists are tortured, held indefinitely in prison without due process, and executed on the whim of some executive branch official without due process of law.
Most Americans go along with unaccountable murder, torture, and detention without evidence, which proclaims their gullibility to the entire world. There has never in history been a population as unaware as americans. The world is amazed that an insouciant people became, if only for a short time, a superpower.
The world needs intelligence and leadership in order to avoid catastrophe, but america can provide neither intelligence nor leadership. America is a lost land where nuclear weapons are in the hands of those who are concerned only with their own power. Washington is the enemy of the entire world and encompasses the largest concentration of evil on the planet.
Where is the good to rise up against the evil?
Paul Craig Roberts is a former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury and Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal. His latest book The Failure of Laissez-Faire Capitalism.
passing through

Australia

#38369 Apr 4, 2013
In America and everywhere in the Western world or the entire world, telling the truth is unpopular. Indeed, in the USA telling the truth has been criminalized. Look for example at Bradley Manning, held for two years in prison without bail and without a trial in violation of the US Constitution, tortured for one year of his illegal confinement in violation of US and international law, and now put on trial by corrupt prosecutors for aiding “enemies of the US” by revealing the truth, as required of him by the US military code. US soldiers are required to report war crimes. When Bradley Manning’s superiors showed themselves to be indifferent to war crimes, Manning reported the crimes via WikiLeaks. What else does a soldier with a sense of duty and a moral conscience do when the chain of command is corrupt?

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