Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46752 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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Trucker

Australia

#38135 Mar 19, 2013
MUQ true statement wrote:
<quoted text>
It has taken a long time & it may be just a random error or bad wording by MUQ.. But finally he has said something true & not Taqiyya.
Yes the black stone is not indian, nor does it have Indian markings.
The black stone was taken by the Qarmations in 930ad to try & stop Islam idol worship.
(;black stone is pieces of Allah moon god that sat next to Hubal the stone idol or lord of the kaaba that Muhammad relaxed as Allahs messenger.)
The black stone was Deconsecrated, defiled, used as a toilet, then smashed into tiny fragments and caste into the desert in Hajar.
After 21 years, a delegation from Mecca paid a
huge ransom & were allowed to rerieve ' a handful and no more'- the Qarmations hoped this would put some sense into them.
They glued the fragments into resin and then put that inside the silver vulva that in turn is cemented into the syrian corner - facing where hubal came from (purchased in syria 180ad)
These fragments in total are no more than the size of say a slice of toast bread. It's a veneer from a handful of bits of gravel in resin.
Fact.
skip to 1920 ad. Ex ww1, British control the ME & set up Saudi ( from the old turkish empire ) with the corrupt emir. They test fragments of the black stone, it should be meteorite etc.
It's fiekdspar, common desert rock. And NOT associated, ie not of the same stone.
The black stone was lost forever in 930ad.
The results are in the british museum.
The Saudis knew this 90 years ago.
MUQ is correct when he says the black stone is not indian. Every muslim knows 99% if not 100% of the black stone is gone forever.
Why they go so crazy over the tiny little dubious bits that are there.
Think about an Islam with no 'Allah moon bits' at all.
Who do they pray to ?
What relevance would Mecca & Saudi have to Muslims if there were no 'bits of Allah'?
the black rock was believed to be a meteorite . The British owned the ME in the 1920s, they could examine the Emir's ass and take samples if they wanted. The British determined it had been over 5,000 years on earth and had first been found by Hindus, whom engraved extensive markings including Siva and Ganesh, it was a Religious Hindu Icon worshipped by millions of Hindus prior Mohammed running them out of dodge in early 600s AD (620s/630s) there were no Muslims prior to Mohammed, his wife Kadejah eventually supported him and converted from Christianity just before her death along with Abu Bakr , Mohammed's cousin and father of Ayesha who was six years when Mohammed ask for her to be his wife (planning ahead).
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#38136 Mar 19, 2013
Trucker wrote:
<quoted text> the black rock was believed to be a meteorite . The British owned the ME in the 1920s, they could examine the Emir's ass and take samples if they wanted. The British determined it had been over 5,000 years on earth and had first been found by Hindus, whom engraved extensive markings including Siva and Ganesh, it was a Religious Hindu Icon worshipped by millions of Hindus prior Mohammed running them out of dodge in early 600s AD (620s/630s) there were no Muslims prior to Mohammed, his wife Kadejah eventually supported him and converted from Christianity just before her death along with Abu Bakr , Mohammed's cousin and father of Ayesha who was six years when Mohammed ask for her to be his wife (planning ahead).
I never knew that "British owned ME in 1920 s"? They have never owned Arabia, not by a fat chance.

They did not take any sample and what is the point if Black stone is a meteorite or not?

It is just a pointer from which people start TAWAF. Otherwise in a rectangular building, no one knows from where to start Tawaf.

That is the significance of Black Stone....and it is perhaps the "only" stone left in Kaaba from the Original building constructed by Prophets Abraham and Ishmael.

And you have put Hindu claim on Kaaba and Black stone. As if Hindus have "copy right" on every idol and every type of idol worship anywhere in the world.
Ali Was

Helensvale, Australia

#38138 Mar 19, 2013
Trucker wrote:
<quoted text> the black rock was believed to be a meteorite . The British owned the ME in the 1920s, they could examine the Emir's ass and take samples if they wanted. The British determined it had been over 5,000 years on earth and had first been found by Hindus, whom engraved extensive markings including Siva and Ganesh, it was a Religious Hindu Icon worshipped by millions of Hindus prior Mohammed running them out of dodge in early 600s AD (620s/630s) there were no Muslims prior to Mohammed, his wife Kadejah eventually supported him and converted from Christianity just before her death along with Abu Bakr , Mohammed's cousin and father of Ayesha who
was six years when Mohammed ask for her to be his wife (planning ahead).
Was a meteorite.
Was never Indian in any way.
Was surviving relic of Allah after mo = hubal.
Was stolen & destroyed by Qarmations in 920ad
Was ransomed back as 'a handful & no more'.
Was always " suspect " from 920ad on.
Was a little patch of pebbles in resin since.
Was cemented into Kaaba by Mo.
Was institutionalised as 'pray to idol' in Islam.
Was checked by the British in 1920.
Was found to be fieldspar & from different rocks.
Was reported in british museum, books.
Was known by the Emir at the time.
So the 'black stone' of Mecca is known fake.
Trucker

Australia

#38139 Mar 19, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I never knew that "British owned ME in 1920 s"? They have never owned Arabia, not by a fat chance.
They did not take any sample and what is the point if Black stone is a meteorite or not?
It is just a pointer from which people start TAWAF. Otherwise in a rectangular building, no one knows from where to start Tawaf.
That is the significance of Black Stone....and it is perhaps the "only" stone left in Kaaba from the Original building constructed by Prophets Abraham and Ishmael.
And you have put Hindu claim on Kaaba and Black stone. As if Hindus have "copy right" on every idol and every type of idol worship anywhere in the world.
read it again, both posts. I also find indictable the fact that every thing fr Islam is copied from Jews and Christians from the beginning . Mohammed was crazy with power and blood lust , he had another enemy which was Religious as well, and followed by billion Hindus his neighbors he also wished power over but did never succeed. Think MUQ Jews and Christians have no interest in Kaaba ! It has no relationship to YHWH at all , it is what we call pagan, it is Hindu !! Those who surrounded Mohammed he sought to control by "their Gods" he had none of his own till he bargained with the Desert Tribes. Almost everything in Koran and Islam was copied from Bible and Talmud/Torah except Mohammed hated Hindus, he could not convert them do he took over Siva Temple, and was illiterate, he did not know a millenium later Archeologists would find the Hindu inscriptions on Temple. The world was locked out and not allowed to look later, only ignorant and illiterate Muslims Who could not read. If the Kaaba has been reduced to the size of a sandwich from the size of a trunk, it could be that Muslims have now removed the extensive Hindu inscriptions ,in that case pieces would have been glued together to make it one piece again. Don't you find it interesting the Jews and Christians have no interest in Kaaba ?? Their Abraham had nothing to do with it, just your Hagar, Ishmael and their Abraham ?? along with their Allah who also has no relationship to our YHWH.

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#38140 Mar 19, 2013
wesley wrote:
<quoted text> all the desalination plants that convert seawater into fresh is western,so if not for the west they would not have freshwater to flush there toilets,oh yea even with that they still are not sanitary.
Australians installed it first in that region.
The ADES OF MARCH Bashers

Providence, UT

#38141 Mar 19, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Roger,

DO NOT POST until you have deleted your Hometown settings.

Log out now, do so as well as unhiding your CACA LATRINE location, log back in never hiding or masking your location again.

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Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#38142 Mar 20, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I never knew that "British owned ME in 1920 s"? They have never owned Arabia, not by a fat chance.
They did not take any sample and what is the point if Black stone is a meteorite or not?
It is just a pointer from which people start TAWAF. Otherwise in a rectangular building, no one knows from where to start Tawaf.
That is the significance of Black Stone....and it is perhaps the "only" stone left in Kaaba from the Original building constructed by Prophets Abraham and Ishmael.
And you have put Hindu claim on Kaaba and Black stone. As if Hindus have "copy right" on every idol and every type of idol worship anywhere in the world.
The Ottoman Empire owned Arabia prior to the Kingdom being established.
Trucker

Australia

#38143 Mar 20, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Australians installed it first in that region.
there are a few desalination plants planned for Gold Coast and Brisbane. I spoke to the wife of an Engineer who was involved in building hold coast plant. Australia would have no problem with water if they piped separate with salt water for sewer. Big infrastructure but later people could draw from that resource and desalinate at home for their own use. 90%of our population is within pipe distance of ocean.

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Since: May 10

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#38144 Mar 20, 2013
Trucker wrote:
<quoted text>there are a few desalination plants planned for Gold Coast and Brisbane. I spoke to the wife of an Engineer who was involved in building hold coast plant. Australia would have no problem with water if they piped separate with salt water for sewer. Big infrastructure but later people could draw from that resource and desalinate at home for their own use. 90%of our population is within pipe distance of ocean.
I spoke with a foreign sounding fellow in Melbourne a few years ago about desalination plants and he queries what happens when they run out of water.
Seems like some people just don't have a clue .

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#38145 Mar 20, 2013
On TV tonight Ethiopia was described as the birth place of humans and some fellow by the name of George slay what the locals called a dragon that was fed human sacrifice to appease it so they named him Saint George and they commenced a religion and pray to the guy all the time.
What does this say to all of you that some person can be treated as a god for the act of killing was seems to be a crocodile with a spear ?

Where does Saint George come from in the British sense,could they be one of the same and could this be how other religions have been founded ?
Dave

Australia

#38147 Mar 20, 2013
MalbarCACA Controllers wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you realise how stupid your posts look and read?(thanks Marcus)
Roger,
DO NOT POST until you have completed your ESL course and deleted your Hometown CACA settings.
Log out now, do so as well as unhiding your CACA LATRINE location, log back in never hiding or masking your location again
SHUT UP !!

Have a Shower,

Have a Shave,

Get some English lessons,

You Deserting No Good Coward.!
Enock

Brisbane, Australia

#38148 Mar 20, 2013
The Hatred muslims have for other muslims is disgraceful.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/03/20/29452...

Killing other peoples children is unacceptable.
Enock

Brisbane, Australia

#38149 Mar 20, 2013
Big tough hairy HoBo's

http://dawn.com/2013/03/20/at-least-33-milita...

Shooting Children

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/pakis...

This grateful Muslim child is so lucky to be shown peaceful Christian way,

Christ said,“Spread the gospel of peace to all men,”

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/9/6...

Muhammad said,“I will inspire terror into the heart of unbelievers.”
Enock

Brisbane, Australia

#38150 Mar 20, 2013
Welcome home Mum, did you have a nice holiday in Gaza with uncle Abdul Hasun ?

&fe ature=related
wesley

Southwest Brevard Cnty, FL

#38151 Mar 20, 2013
truthfully,can you imagine a world without muslims or islam.it would be a world that people could only dream about.a place that we as a whole we would be able to connect mentaly and which we could all conect and be at peace with not only each other on a globable scail but a universal one as well throuout history we have found evil instead of peace..
Trucker

Helensvale, Australia

#38152 Mar 20, 2013
wesley wrote:
truthfully,can you imagine a world without muslims or islam.it would be a world that people could only dream about.a place that we as a whole we would be able to connect mentaly and which we could all conect and be at peace with not only each other on a globable scail but a universal one as well throuout history we have found evil instead of peace..
if there was no evil, if there was no satan , if there was no Islam , YHWH would have nothing to do, we would not have self determination. There had to be the fallen angel, there had to be satan, there had to be good and evil, there had to be a place for these it is called Islam. There had to be a false Abraham , there had to be false prophets, there had to be a story so close to our own it seemed almost possible until those filled with the Holy Spirit were relieved of the veil of darkness. Ishmael was so close to succeeding only in "the lie" there had to be a Hagar, maybe many, so the creation of a false Abraham appealed to illiterate peasants and slaves to the sword and blood shed. It is like a parallel Universe, it is Satan and Jesus in different worlds. What has "found out" Islam to be false was the " Hindus", the Kaaba , the opposing claims . Christians and Jews have same Abraham, same God, Islam is seen now to have copied them by claiming this Hindu shrine of Siva as Gods house. If Islam claims Kaaba it is opposite to YHWH and Prophets of YHWH, Jews and Christians see Kaaba as only pagan and of the moon god of the desert tribes . On all my years, no church or Christian Jew literature says anything about Kaaba, it is just an invention of Islam trying to take Hindus into the fold, and trying to take over Jew and Christian religions Kaaba is the deception that has bought Islam and all muslim deceptions undone .
Smart

Australia

#38153 Mar 21, 2013
Muslims stop killing your people and start looking after them,
http://www.aaj.tv/2013/03/nowshera-blast-hit-...

Whats wrong with you ?
Reminiscing Mecca

Kellyville, Australia

#38154 Mar 21, 2013
Neville spot on wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes. Mecca was set up as an 'attraction' for relgious trade - in a way the Disney of its day.
Well a poor fake Arab imitative version of Jerusalem which under Helena under Constantine was restored to be a christian Disney land ( if you ever go there, then you will understand, the church of holy sepulchre, crucifixuon rock, temple mount, Bethlehem etc are exactly that).
Mecca had 360 idols in the Kaaba ar
ea, hubal being the big red idol Lord of the Kaaba - that cost a camel or two to ask Allah to swing his divinity arrows!!
Muhammad replaced him and got rid of some others, the golden antelopes were melted down & lamps inside btw.
So the old Mecca, first set as trading post 150ad was really rocking & rolling as a relgious fairground.
Every quraeesh tribe had their own
idol and and they bought them far & wide.

Allah started as a minor god but once they mixed
sabian (Venus) with Allah (moon) & the star
(planet) & moon conjunction along with the sex ritual - Mecca was the place to stopover !

Thing about islam tho is what a dour & miserable
people they become, so jealous & preachy coz they know it's all fake & missing their fun.
Amazing / spot on.
The old islam was the go.
We all circled tje red stone devil god up on the raised platform that was the Pre Kaaba.
Baying and screaming to the moon and Venus we circled Hubal whose golden gilt hand gleamed and shape shifted in the flickering firelight.
All the woman huddled naked, hair loose,
around the black stone, daubing their private onto the black rock and ululating to Allah.
Then like goats we men stride to the rock to smell what pleases us, then sniffing the desired one, we snatch her from the throng and take her, out in the perimeter beyond the flickering flames.
All around the many gods of Allahs family glint and shimmer in the dark, as we scream & yell our happiness to our moon god Allah who indeed is bigger than the Sun, why indeed allah the
moon can block the sun & the "star" of Venus..

So Allah is Akbhar or bigger than, yes our Allah is rhe biggest thing in the heavens.

Those were the days my son, when Mecca was really something !
ah I would give 20 camels for just one night to be true to what we really believe
in...
MUQ debt to Philby

Kellyville, Australia

#38155 Mar 21, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
The Ottoman Empire owned Arabia prior to the Kingdom being established.
The BritIsh established Saudi from the remnants of the turkish ottoman empire..
in fact another example of how easily the west gets 'the Muslim to kill the Muslim'.
The 5 foot moon headed Lawrence from the british Egyptian office competed with his little arabquislings and traitors to islam , against "Abdullah" Philby from the British Indian office who cultivated the 'evil emir', a known corrupt & degenerate.
Phibly won and the evil emir became the British 'boy' in the Arabian penisula.
(Lawrence went home empty handed and rode
motor bikes very fast until he topped himself).
But the Arabs liked Lawrence because of his moon head (serious, he had a medical condition that stunted his growth resulting in an abnormally large head), as it reminded them of Allah !

The evil emir & his ragtag tribe of traitors was
then 'sold' to the USA when the uk could not pay it's debts to Aramco , a USA oil venture then owned and ran saudi until this very day & forever into the foreseeable future.
Aramco (now the usa/saudi 'venture
has been the most successful enterprise and growth investment of any in modern western civilization. The USA nation owns it plus the USA military is organised around it, it's that big.
When Saudi was being set up by the British, all of Mecca & the Kaaba was examined & surveyed top to bottom, inch by inch. That was when the kaaba was found to be fake in its fantasy claims ;it wasn't even built as a platform until 340ad Abd not enclosed until 450ad.. And when the black stone was tested and also found to be fiekdspar or desert gravel fragments NOT OF THE SAME COMMON ROCK - ie when the Qarmations stole the bjack stone in 930ad it was lost forever.
Black stone was fake, the Emir or as the British retitled them, the house of saud - knew all this.
But still the pilgrims come to do their circles, lick and touch the stone that all Muslims pray towards and idolize as part of their moon god.
Always helps to have a few religious relics to keep the ignorant busy.
Every saudi or Indian guest worker in Saudi owes a debt to the UK & USA in their employment being a result of the west putting
money & political control ahead of religion.
Saudi is run like a zoo, the rare & endangered princes are allowed to do what they want, as long as they don't intefere with the oil extraction or the USA bases.
So MUQ doing his Haj or prayers owes a great debt to British agent Philby that set up the zoo of Saudi and allowed the animals in the zoo to have their own special rocks to lick and touch as they wear a circle path around them..
Prince Wahhabi

Australia

#38156 Mar 21, 2013
British Agent 'Abdullah' Jack Philby got to be a Saudi prince as the founding father of Saudi.

According to the secret Sykes-Picot agreement of 1916 on who would get what in the ottoman empire breakup - saudi was to be to british and various agents set about cultivating what were quite mad & dangerous sects to help destablise & undermine the 'islamic caliphate'

In 1917, Jack Philby met with a tribal chief of the
Wahhabi sect, Ibn Saud to form an terrorist alliance against the Islamic state and to pass key information on to allow the Saud or Wahhabi sect
to defeat Sharif Hussein who was in fact the legimate and correct islamic authority including in control of Mecca & other holy sites.

In 1933, Standard Oil of California (SOCAL) negotiated with Philby for what is now the
Arabian-American Oil Company (ARAMCO) classified by the U.S. State Department as the richest commercial prize in history.

Thus Wahabi's or Salifi are a manufacture of the west. Originally 'fringe & extreme' the western agents including the person who set up and ran Saudi for it's first 20 years deliberately chose a radical sect of extreminism rather than the legitimate shariff of Hussein.
The british did extensive testing & surveys around Mecca being of that sort of nature, and had a whole camp of scientists and archeologists trying in fact to 'prove' the Islamic wonders may be real to promote the new colony they had set up.(Jack Phibly who founded & ran Saudi was an anti Semite). Alas despite every effort for nearly 4 years from 1920-1924 - all the Mecca legends, black stone, Kaaba etc / was found to be FAKE.
FAKE.
No Mecca before 150ad. No Kaaba before 360ad as a building. Black stone all gone with the Qarmations. No Quran before Uthamn. etc.
So the founding fathers of Saudi and pretty well anyone who can read knows this.
But millions still pray like frogs to their false idol or think Salifi is pure Islam rather than understanding it's just a virus inside islam, fed by the west..

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