Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46759 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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Heathen Fixer

Perth, Australia

#37864 Mar 12, 2013
MalbarCACA Controllers wrote:
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No pathetic gobbledegook diversions, disgusting, despicable, deranged, lunatic Footscray, Australia MalbarCACA yellow-bellied, gutless coward IDENTITY THIEF, PLAGIARIZER Bender BASTARD IndoMauritian ti pilon IMPOSTOR (ID #2 hide myASS! Beady has a yellow mane.Derpy Hooves Carlsberg Guy Rainbow Dash Australia the greater Switchers and ********** of many evils ADELAIDEANs) crap will be allowed.
Repent to the Christ

http://media.sbs.com.au/news/thm/articlemain/...

Or be permanently deleted !
Blekko

Perth, Australia

#37865 Mar 12, 2013
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/eight-detain...

HUQ, they got it all wrong !!

Its was the Jews , Because the 1.6 million Jews are the cause of 1.8 BILLION Muslims problems.



Because they are the Brothers of MONKEYS

because they are the brothers of PIGS

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You Muzza's are the Racist MONKEYS and PIGS,and cause your own problems because you are dysfunctional.

Your not suitable for peaceful Christian Australia.
Jake Bradock

North Lakes, Australia

#37866 Mar 12, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
That is why I said, Muslims are the worst enemies of Muslims. They do more harm to each other than their enemies.
The prudent thing would be to leave them alone and let them settle their own matters.
You intervening in their affairs, might join them and then turn on you?
Why take the risk? Why not leave them alone?
You are completly correct here MUQ, we put to much value on muslim life and dispite the pain and suffering they inflict on the innocent we should harden our hearts like islam demands and take no pity on these poor people who are killed at the hands of animals.

If muslims want to rape there own children we should let them.
If muslims want to slaughter an innocent family for no reason, we should let them.
If muslims want to kill there daughters for wanting an education we should let them.

Yes MUQ, islam and its god are a very different god to the christian god who asks for the protection of the innocent.
Blekko

Sydney, Australia

#37867 Mar 12, 2013
Whose the brothers of Pigs and Monkeys ?

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national...

What was not mentioned in this article, is the man in question is an illegal immigrant and flagged for deportation and living in the community.

Not suitable for clean decent Christian Australia.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#37868 Mar 12, 2013
http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-indefinite-deten...

Obama fights ban on indefinite detention of Americans

The White House has filed an appeal in hopes of reversing a federal judge’s ruling that bans the indefinite military detention of Americans because attorneys for the president say they are justified to imprison alleged terrorists without charge.

Manhattan federal court Judge Katherine Forrest ruled in May that the indefinite detention provisions signed into law late last year by US President Barack Obama failed to “pass constitutional muster” and ordered a temporary injunction to keep the military from locking up any person, American or other, over allegations of terrorist ties. On Monday, however, federal prosecutors representing President Obama and Defense Secretary Leon Panetta filed a claim with the 2nd US Circuit Court of Appeals in hopes of eliminating that ban.

The plaintiffs "cannot point to a single example of the military's detaining anyone for engaging in conduct even remotely similar to the type of expressive activities they allege could lead to detention," Obama’s attorneys insist. With that, the White House is arguing that as long as the indefinite detention law hasn’t be enforced yet, there is no reason for a judge to invalidate it.

Reuters reports this week that the government believes they are justified to have the authorization to lock alleged belligerents up indefinitely because cases involving militants directly aligned against the good of the US government warrants such punishment. Separate from Judge Forrest’s injunction, nine states have attempted to, at least in part, remove themselves from the indefinite detention provisions of included in the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012, or NDAA.

In section 1021 of the NDAA, the president’s authority to hold a terrorism suspect “without trial, until the end of the hostilities” is reaffirmed by Congress. Despite an accompanying signing statement voicing his opposition to that provision, President Obama quietly inked his name to the NDAA on December 31, 2011. In May, however, a group of plaintiffs including notable journalists and civil liberty proponents challenged section 1021 in court, leading to Just Forrest to find it unconstitutional one month later.

"There is a strong public interest in protecting rights guaranteed by the First Amendment," Forrest wrote in her 68-page ruling. "There is also a strong public interest in ensuring that due process rights guaranteed by the Fifth Amendment are protected by ensuring that ordinary citizens are able to understand the scope of conduct that could subject them to indefinite military detention."

At the time Just Forrest made her injunction, attorney Carl Mayer told RT on behalf of the plaintiffs that, although he expected the White House to appeal,“It may not be in their best interest.”

“[T]here are so many people from all sides of the political spectrum opposed to this law that they ought to just say,'We're not going to appeal,’” Mayer said. "The NDAA cannot be used to pick up Americans in a proverbial black van or in any other way that the administration might decide to try to get people into the military justice system. It means that the government is foreclosed now from engaging in this type of action against the civil liberties of Americans."

The original plaintiffs, who include Pulitzer Prize-winner Chris Hedges, have asked Just Forrest to make her injunction permanent. Oral arguments in the case are expected to begin this week.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#37869 Mar 12, 2013
Jake Bradock wrote:
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You are completly correct here MUQ, we put to much value on muslim life and dispite the pain and suffering they inflict on the innocent we should harden our hearts like islam demands and take no pity on these poor people who are killed at the hands of animals.
If muslims want to rape there own children we should let them.
If muslims want to slaughter an innocent family for no reason, we should let them.
If muslims want to kill there daughters for wanting an education we should let them.
Yes MUQ, islam and its god are a very different god to the christian god who asks for the protection of the innocent.
Simple solution, "If any Muslim commits any crime on your soil, subject them to Islamic justice system"?

Your problem solved!!

But your pride would be hurt!!

Islamic justice system is for the "protection" of the innocent!!

How dumb can you get?
Jake Bradock

North Lakes, Australia

#37870 Mar 12, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Simple solution, "If any Muslim commits any crime on your soil, subject them to Islamic justice system"?
Your problem solved!!
But your pride would be hurt!!
Islamic justice system is for the "protection" of the innocent!!
How dumb can you get?
islamic justice is for the innocent? really ? how does islamic justice help the innocent christian children in africa who are burnt alive by your islamic bretheren?

How does islamic justice help the innocent non-muslim children in pakistan, afganistan or syria who have acid throwen in there faces for worshiping there own religions?

Its a mistake to use the words islamic and justice in the same sentence as it dosent exist.

There is no justice in islam, only vengence.
SandCastle

Lismore, Australia

#37871 Mar 12, 2013
Jake Bradock wrote:
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islamic justice is for the innocent? really ? how does islamic justice help the innocent christian children in africa who are burnt alive by your islamic bretheren?
How does islamic justice help the innocent non-muslim children in pakistan, afganistan or syria who have acid throwen in there faces for worshiping there own religions?
Its a mistake to use the words islamic and justice in the same sentence as it dosent exist.
There is no justice in islam, only vengence.
Well, you sow what you reap... That is a Christian quote and Muhammadan justice system.

Norway has one of the lowest crime rates in the world and the lowest percentage of criminals reverting back to criminal crimes and jail visits.

How do they do this? They try to re-educate criminals, give them job skills and qualifications and by their psychological understanding "kill them with kindness". And it works. If these criminals have not been fairly punished, God would fill what humans cannot. Humans should always strive to be more lenient than harsh lest they are wrong.

I still cannot understand why muslims are unable to give judgement day a shot. It is as if they cannot do not have any faith that Allah will make all things right. I know Christians sure do. The Book of life will settle things square. The Shariah system is a bit like Communism, it can be used as a vengeance tool to rid yourself of people you hate and nemisis. You can point the finger at them and the Shariah system will allow it or pretend you were not one of the rapists/witnesses and a raped woman will become the slut of the village. The Australian law simply demands objectivity, physical proof of evidence, forensic data, witness accounts are scrutinised by lawyers, police interviewers, detectives.

Another thing I am unsatisfied with MUQ's self centred views. Muslims simply do not follow the laws they willfully chose to sign and acknowledge when coming to this country. MUQ's assumption is a step 2 solution of what should have been a step one solution. In Christianity, they teach you to follow the law of the government to not cause trouble and if you do not like the country you immigrated to you can leave.

This lack of respect of Australian law which other religions abide much better of is simply arrogant, selfish and pathetic childlike behaviour.

If that is the case, then we should not let any muslims who wish to only follow Shariah and not Australian laws.

That was the condition! We are not telling them they have to eat pork, cannot pray etc...

Ungratefulness sums up the solution that MUQ and any other swindler muslims in Australians when they demand special preference to cater to their needs and the expense of others!
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#37872 Mar 12, 2013
Jake Bradock wrote:
<quoted text>
islamic justice is for the innocent? really ? how does islamic justice help the innocent christian children in africa who are burnt alive by your islamic bretheren?
How does islamic justice help the innocent non-muslim children in pakistan, afganistan or syria who have acid throwen in there faces for worshiping there own religions?
Its a mistake to use the words islamic and justice in the same sentence as it dosent exist.
There is no justice in islam, only vengence.
Nuke the whole area.

That would be "Christian solution" to the problem!!

And nuke the Entire Africa, so that this Black versus White issue would be solved for ever.

Simple solutions are often the best!! Are not they?
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#37873 Mar 12, 2013

Why I became Muslim?
Dr. Maurice Bucaille, France

A. Background

01. MAURICE Bucaille was born to a French parent and, like his family, he grew up a Christian.

02. After his secondary education, he joined Faculty of Medicine, France University. Later, he became the most renowned and cleverest surgeon ever in modern France, but a story happened to change his life completely.

B. Study on Pharaoh of the Times of Moses:

03. France is known for its unique interest in archeology and heritage. When French Socialist President François Mitterrand assumed power in 1981, France asked Egypt, late in the 80’s, for the mummy of Egypt’s pharaoh so that it would conduct a string of monumental and processing experiments.

04. On his request the body of Egypt’s most notorious tyrant was transferred to France, and, strangely, the French president and his ministers as well as senior officials in the country lined up near the plane carrying the Pharaoh’s body and bowed down to him as if he were still alive!

05. After the ceremonies of the royal-like reception to Egypt’s pharaoh were over, the tyrant’s mummy was carried nearly in the same red carpet reception way he received.

06.Then the mummy was transferred to a special wing at the French Monuments Center, and renowned archeologists, surgeons and anatomists started to conduct a study on this mummy in an attempt to delve into its mysteries.

D. How the Pharaoh Died?

07. The senior surgeon and the scientist in charge of the study on this mummy of the Pharaoh was Professor Maurice Bucaille. While the processors were busy making restoration to the mummy, their head (Maurice Bucaille) was thinking otherwise.

He was trying to discover how this Pharaoh died when, late at night, he concluded his final analyses.

08. The remains of the salt stuck in his body was a shining evidence that he had drowned and that his body was retrieved from the sea swiftly after he drowned; it was also obvious that they rushed to mummify his body so that his body would remain intact!!

09. But Maurice Bucaille puzzled over a question: How did this body — to the exclusion of other mummified bodies of other ancient Egyptians — remain that intact although it was recovered from the sea?”

10. Maurice was busy conducting a final report while thinking as to whether the pharaoh’s body was recovered from the sea and mummified immediately after he drowned.

11. But one of his company whispered in his ear, saying “There is no need to rush about this issue, since the Muslims say that this Pharaoh did drown.”

E. How Come Muslims know this Secret?

12. At first, he vehemently rejected this and did not believe it, citing that such a discovery would be reached only through sophisticated, modern and accurate computers.

13. Another one accompanying him surprised him more when he told him that the Muslims’ Quran in which they believe narrates the story that says he drowned and that his body remained intact even after he drowned.

14. He got more surprised and kept on asking” Where did the Muslims’ Quran quote these data from while the mummy was not discovered until 1898, i.e. about 200 years only, given that the Quran has been recited by Muslims for over 1400 years, and given also that until a few decades ago the entire mankind including Muslims did not know that the ancient Egyptians had mummified their pharaohs



14. He got more surprised and kept on asking” Where did the Muslims’ Quran quote these data from while the mummy was not discovered until 1898, i.e. about 200 years only, given that the Quran has been recited by Muslims for over 1400 years, and given also that until a few decades ago the entire mankind including Muslims did not know that the ancient Egyptians had mummified their pharaohs

(Contd.)
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#37874 Mar 12, 2013
F. OT and NT books are silent as to what happened to Pharaoh' Body

15. Maurice Bucaille stayed up all this night gazing at Pharaoh’s body, thinking deeply of what his fellow researcher told him about the Muslims’ Quran explicitly establishing that this body was recovered after drowning, while the Christians’ Gospel (Matthew and Luca) narrated only the story of Pharaoh when he was chasing Prophet Musa (peace be upon him) without mentioning the fate of his body at all.

“Is it believable that Muhammad (peace be upon him) knew about this over 1,000 years ago while I have only just known it?” he thought.

16. Maurice spent a sleepless night, and asked for a version of the Torah. But it only furthered Bucaille’s astonishment; since even Torah did not narrate that the body was recovered and remained intact due to the processing and restoration, which it did undergo.

G. The Truth Dawns:

17. France sent back the mummy to Egypt in a splendid glass coffin. But, since he knew about the story circulated by Muslims on the intactness of this body, he decided to pack his baggage and travel to Saudi Arabia where a medical conference happened to be held with a galaxy of Muslim anatomists attending.

18. There, told them about his discovery, i.e. that Pharaoh’s body was kept intact even after he drowned.

19. One of the conferees opened the Quran and read out the Ayah in which Allah Almighty said,“So today We will (safely) deliver you with your body that you may be a sign to the ones succeeding you; and surely many among mankind are indeed heedless of Our signs.”(Yunus: 92)

20. In his excitement, he stood before the attendants and loudly said,“I have converted to Islam and believed in this Quran.”

H. Bible and Quran in the light of Modern Science

21. Back to France, Maurice Bucaille spent 10 years conducting a study as to how far the recently scientific facts match that mentioned in the Holy Quran, trying to reassure himself that the Quran has never contradicted with any single scientific fact, so that he eventually came up with the conclusion that Allah Almighty said of the Quran,

“Untruth does not come up to it before (Literally: between its two hands) it nor from behind it; a successive sending down from (One) Ever-Wise, Ever-Praiseworthy.”

21. He came up with a earth shaking book on the Holy Quran which jolted the entire Western states, with the title of the book reading,“The Bible, The Quran and Science, The Holy Scriptures Examined In The Light Of Modern Knowledge.”

22. The book sold out and even hundreds of thousands of it were translated from French to Arabic, English, Indonesian, Persian, Turkish and German, extending to include nearly all East and West bookstores; one has come to see it with any Egyptian, Moroccan or Gulf person in the US.

23. In the preface of his book, Maurice Bucaille said,“These scientific areas which Quran established to the exclusion of other Scriptures filled me with deep surprise early on, since it never struck my mind to see such a large amount of scientific issues in such a variable and accurate way that they are a mirror image of what has recently been discovered in a book which has existed for more than 13 centuries.!!

24. The Bible, The Quran and Science, The Holy Scriptures Examined In The Light Of Modern Knowledge was such a marvelous piece of writing that, in the year 1988, the French Academy awarded him its prize in history.

Courtesy of
www.quranandscience.com
MUQ Mummy fail

Brookvale, Australia

#37875 Mar 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
F. OT and NT books are silent as to what happened to Pharaoh' Body
15. Maurice Bucaille stayed up all this night gazing at Pharaoh’s body which looked like salted pork.
Jump to obscure Taqiyya & Kitman :)
“So today We will (safely) deliver you with your body that you may be a sign to the ones succeeding you; and surely many among
mankind are indeed heedless of Our signs.”(Yunus: 92)
20. In his excitement, he stood before the
attendants and loudly said,“I have converted to Islam and believed in this Quran.”
Huh - coz the pharaoh mummy looked like salted meat and yunus said nothing to that at all ?
And..
Allah Almighty said of the Quran,
“Untruth does not come up to it before (Literally: between its two hands) it nor from behind it; a
successive sending down from (One) Ever-Wise,
Ever-Praiseworthy.”
Huh so what ? Taqiyya.
21. He wrote a book that jolted the entire Western states, with the title of the book reading “The
Bible, The Quran and Science, The Holy
Scriptures Examined In The Light Of Modern Knowledge.”
Nope - only a few copies were sold and only to islam library's that are forced to take Saudi Iph propaganda - go check the publishing stats.
More Taqiyya.
23. In the preface of his book, Maurice Bucaille failed to mention how Islam has actively destroyed knowledge & denied it's believers the truth. He got a token multicultural award from the French as they were trying to make multiculturalism work & this pathetic effort was the only Muslim book that didn't convey messages of death by sharia. Now the french wouldn't even bother as they have had a gutful of even pretending to tolerate Islam.
MUQ - very weird Taqiyya (lies)
So I rewrote it more to the facts as above.
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The Quran didn't exist until Uthman compiled his version & burnt all others. Anything Muhammad said or preached went into the fire.
The Quran was then rewritten extensively many
times increasing drawing on it's Jewish base to try & gain legitimacy.
So anything pre-Uthman came from the Jews (T'ubahs book of rules, ishmaelites) & then later esp from the qarmations onward - from the Jews.
The jews records may be in the millions of words and billions of nuances - and a lot is NOT in the Torah - but Jew's refered to the pharoahs
mummification, as part of their time as guests in Egypt.
So... How does that make miracle?
And what's it got to do with the Quran or Islam?
And the quote refered to is so general & abstract it could be a painting or a lock of hair preserved.
It's very general commentary totally distorted by Islam to be something it didn't actually say as well clearly is omitted (Kitman And Taqiyya !).

Yet again Muslim commentary on what some jews may have thought & and not literal but
highly "intepretated after events'.

In all reality the pharaoh's body may have been
washed with salt, common in preserving dried meat which is all a mummy is..

Seems to me Islam , so desperate to have any
legitimacy practices taqiyyya & kitman on anything.
Fact is any Muslim who gives it Islam even
a cursory test of logic & fact .. knows its fake.

Hence the anxious, breathless, neurotic
obsession of Muslims to prove their legitimacy.

Here's an assignment for you.
Find any evidence, one piece from all of history or archeology that proves Mecca existed before
150ad.
Or any evidence the Quran existed before Uthman (the original book of T'ubah as the proto
quran is not allowed as evidence)- before Uthman compiled his own from 83 conflicting scraps of garbage parchment , then burning all
others.

Now that would be of interest, not this cut &
paste propaganda pap from the house of saudi Iph who pay people to write books for muslim fools ~ desperate to believe anything...
Cheers
albert

Adelaide, Australia

#37876 Mar 13, 2013
Blekko wrote:
Whose the brothers of Pigs and Monkeys ?
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national...
What was not mentioned in this article, is the man in question is an illegal immigrant and flagged for deportation and living in the community.
Not suitable for clean decent Christian Australia.
islam is the most primitive, oppressive and violent religion today, some people are not told this they are told lies,and so there are stupid people who can get fooled by lies and cunning, something muslims learned when they were trying to capture and decieve

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_war
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#37877 Mar 13, 2013
albert wrote:
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islam is the most primitive, oppressive and violent religion today, some people are not told this they are told lies,and so there are stupid people who can get fooled by lies and cunning, something muslims learned when they were trying to capture and decieve
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_war
Calling Islam Primitive?

And Trinity is the Most advanced thing that humans ever thought?

What standards you have to judge primitive and Modern thought?
Steve

Naracoorte, Australia

#37878 Mar 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Calling Islam Primitive?
And Trinity is the Most advanced thing that humans ever thought?
What standards you have to judge primitive and Modern thought?
These standards

http://www.rferl.org/content/afghanistan-boy-...

"When a man has sex with a 13-year-old child, the child is a victim of rape, not a criminal offender," says Brad Adams, HRW's Asia director. "The Afghan government should never have victimized this boy a second time, but instead should have released him immediately with urgent protection and assistance."

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#37879 Mar 13, 2013
Steve wrote:
<quoted text>
These standards
http://www.rferl.org/content/afghanistan-boy-...
"When a man has sex with a 13-year-old child, the child is a victim of rape, not a criminal offender," says Brad Adams, HRW's Asia director. "The Afghan government should never have victimized this boy a second time, but instead should have released him immediately with urgent protection and assistance."
If what he did was seen as part of their culture ,why then is he offered urgent protection and assistance if this is a normal event.
What has he got to fear if what he did nothing different as expected of him by his society .
Jimmy McPoo

Luton, UK

#37880 Mar 13, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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You're gay.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#37881 Mar 13, 2013
In pre Australian times prior to colonising by the UK it was common practise for the male elders of the tribe to choose a girl wife over that of a more plump elder age as they were seen by their tribal society as being part of their cultural existence

Should countries have the right to refuse immigrants who live in that culture ?
Neville Thompson

Luton, UK

#37882 Mar 13, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Happy now?

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#37883 Mar 13, 2013
Hello Muslims , I hear that one of Saudi Imams will be paying Australia a visit dubbed "the peace mission".

Before they can prove to us that Islam is a peaceful existance, I would like that forum to acknowledge war torn Islam and do something about it for gods sake if not their own peoples .

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