Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 20 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#37729 Mar 8, 2013
Aliroger1 wrote:
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CANADA IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR MUSLIMS TO COME TO BECAUSE CANADA NEEDED SMART PEOPLE
The rednecks did not have a clue and needed someone to build the country. Rednecks in Calgary could not govern themselves! Nope, they needed Harvard educated Muslim Mayor Nenshi to lead them!! Poor Serpant cannot win an election against a Muslim so he whimpers and whines on the internet because reality has not been kind to poor rednecks like Serpant, the slithering creep that he is!!! The Reform Party has brought in scoundrels like Gurmant Grewal and this Porter clown who was the former head of Security and Intelligence Review Committee, and is now on the run, wanted for criminal fraud, bribery and corruption!!! Then there is the African Muslim, Haji Hussain Obama who leads America and is commander-in-chief!!! LOLLLLL Muslims already lead the west!!! As millions more Muslims immigrate and flourish and have children, the poor rednecks see their privilege erode and they can't compete in a meritocracy!!! Poor serpent just can't compete in a meritocracy. Booooohooooooo!!! LOLLLLLLL
Which Muslims do you suggest ?
BashBoris

Australia

#37730 Mar 8, 2013
prepare for Muslims to take over the world shortly

Britons and other Westerns increasingly converting to Islam

Thu Mar 7, 2013 7:43PM GMT

By Mansoor Ismail

Over time, the Priest may allow saying prayers the Islamic way in the Church and it may become socially acceptable. This all depends on the manners and behaviour of a person after he or she had further improved and developed his or her philosophy by conversion to Muslim on the basis of Islamic literature.

In India and the east many of the Hindu, Buddhist and Sikh temples do allow Muslim farmers and labourers to say their prayers in separate rooms where there are no idol carvings."

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For the past couple of years the news and documentaries media shows increasing concerns about women converting to Muslim religion in increasing numbers.

Why should this trend in lifestyles cause so much concern to the media?

Converting is only change of opinion and philosophy. It’s really nothing material. When one's thoughts are more natural and truthful then one easily becomes a Muslim.

The word Muslim is not a title or identity of a community, nation or country. It is not nationalistic or political philosophy. In Arabic language it only means “who or what is natural and truthful, honest, realistic, consciously aware, enlightened with knowledge and that is Islam”.

The word Muslim Ummah is understood to mean global Muslim Nation in a political sense. This may be a serious misunderstanding.

The word Ummah in Arabic language means followers in a sense of a root from which rises a tree and its branches, leaves, flowers and fruits. Everything follows and grows up from the root source.

Philosophically, Ummah have one religious belief in their hearts which is a root of their religion and they flourish in different branches, colours, and contributions to the world.

It’s very much a natural belief and cannot be adopted into any political ideology. The root of the Muslim Ummah is their faith which they proclaim everyday in their 5 times prayers and on calling for congregational community prayers as we hear on loudspeakers outside the Mosques.

This is my understanding of Islam as a Muslim in mind, after I have read so many authentic books since early school days.

The status of Muslim converts has become something of amazement for many years in Britain.

Some of the British people who have reached an agreement with Islamic faith appear to convert to Muslim fashions, dressing and way of life which they show on media to be very different to the civilization and culture of Britain as seen in the lifestyles of the majority.

This suggests some kind of discrimination in making choices about culture and civilization to which one feels one must belong. When we compare the two sets of cultures and the civilization we will see obvious differences in:

(a) Fashion and dressing
(b) Choices of meals
(c) Choices of drinks
(d) Behaviors, manners and etiquette at home
(e) Table manners
(f) Religious knowledge and practice
(g) Moral and ethical standards

With the new Muslim converts showing themselves as more strict and conservatives than the individuals born and grown up within Muslim communities of India, Pakistan and Middle East, there appears to be some kind of a campaign going on.

There may be the campaigns that are thought of as threatening to the cultures and civilization of Britain and therefore a threat to their peace and security. This may be the main concern in the media.

It is noteworthy that vast majority of Muslim converts are in the educational and intellectual fields when in fact Islam is a religion for the poor, farmers and those not belonging to any fine culture or civilization of the world.
BashBoris

Australia

#37731 Mar 8, 2013
Their intelligence is more of naturalist minds and suitable for the poor and working class. We find that many Muslim converts who are teachers and artists present a humble way of life as it is common with teachers and artists in British life but their philosophy of life is much more different to the poor and farming class in India, Pakistan, and Middle East. They do not share common interests and philosophy of life. There is also obvious discrimination in Britain between the Muslim converts and inherent Muslims of other communities in Britain.
The discrimination is very subtle. It is probably not on the above listed matters but more on intelligence and philosophical matters. Is such discrimination good or bad?
Indeed, there are class discriminations in all the societies and communities around the world. There are also similar class discriminations within the Muslim Ummah around the world and the prejudices of the rich against the poor are clear and obvious in broad daylight.
The majority of population in British civilization raise voices in the media saying they dislike the Muslim culture, religious laws and their way of life.
They illustrate their discriminations with examples of cases relating to domestic violence, family laws, marriage customs, parental responsibilities and other social issues found in British courts. Many also speak out against Muslim Ummah saying that they are a thousand years behind in civilization with Britain, United States and Europe.
All these are clear and obvious scenarios which we see every day in the media. It is not clear what roles the new Muslim converts are playing with their attitudes and presentations of very strict and conservative Muslim Ummah to the letter of the laws of Islam.

When conversion is merely philosophical, it should not disturb and upset completely a person’s life so that he or she assumes a new identity in the name of a Muslim. I think that a person brought up in a Christian family can easily change his or her opinion about God and religion which may make him or her Muslim in faith.
This condition can go unnoticed if one continues with his or her life and work as normal. He or she may make some changes to lifestyles, such as giving up on alcohol and taking soft drinks instead, stop smoking, giving up on drugs, avoid falling into temptations of sexual sins. Such changes and improvements to life will be appreciated by members of all religions of the world.

On more serious matters about the fundamental doctrine, he or she may say the prayers in a manner that it is worship to God as Muslims behave. If there is Muslim mosque in the town, one may enter the Mosque and join in congregational prayers at the appropriate time. One may continue to go to the Church and pay respect to the community but should avoid falling into an argument with people by saying his or her Muslim prayers at the Church.

Over time, the Priest may allow saying prayers the Islamic way in the Church and it may become socially acceptable. This all depends on the manners and behaviour of a person after he or she had further improved and developed his or her philosophy by conversion to Muslim on the basis of Islamic literature.

In India and the east many of the Hindu, Buddhist and Sikh temples do allow Muslim farmers and labourers to say their prayers in separate rooms where there are no idol carvings. There really is no need of so much controversy over changing one’s opinions and beliefs to find more personal happiness and satisfaction in the books and literature that one reads.
Books and literature do not change the world and what is recorded in writing is not a security concern for a religion, culture or civilisation. It is the psychology of people that changes the world either for the good or for the bad.
Jai

Ashburn, VA

#37734 Mar 8, 2013
Barking dogs cannot defeat humans.
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#37735 Mar 8, 2013
Aliroger1 wrote:
<quoted text>
CANADA IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR MUSLIMS TO COME TO BECAUSE CANADA NEEDED SMART PEOPLE
The rednecks did not have a clue and needed someone to build the country. Rednecks in Calgary could not govern themselves! Nope, they needed Harvard educated Muslim Mayor Nenshi to lead them!! Poor Serpant cannot win an election against a Muslim so he whimpers and whines on the internet because reality has not been kind to poor rednecks like Serpant, the slithering creep that he is!!! The Reform Party has brought in scoundrels like Gurmant Grewal and this Porter clown who was the former head of Security and Intelligence Review Committee, and is now on the run, wanted for criminal fraud, bribery and corruption!!! Then there is the African Muslim, Haji Hussain Obama who leads America and is commander-in-chief!!! LOLLLLL Muslims already lead the west!!! As millions more Muslims immigrate and flourish and have children, the poor rednecks see their privilege erode and they can't compete in a meritocracy!!! Poor serpent just can't compete in a meritocracy. Booooohooooooo!!! LOLLLLLLL
Muslims are all scum bags. They are hated wherever they go. They contribute nothing to the western countries that they sneak into. They don't contribute to the countries sports, theater, Olympic Games etc etc. they are not capable of contributing anything meaningful.
Just look at the sh^thole Muslim countries that Muslims build, hahaha, all they can do is to keep killing each other.. Hahaha, after they have killed enough of themselves, the Christians will come to their country and slaughter what is left of the wounded. Haha!!

Muslims are just a useless piece of stinky sh^t, nobody wants them in their country.
Normam

Australia

#37736 Mar 8, 2013
Serpent wrote:
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Muslims are all scum bags. They are hated wherever they go. They contribute nothing to the western countries that they sneak into. They don't contribute to the countries sports, theater, Olympic Games etc etc. they are not capable of contributing anything meaningful.
Just look at the sh^thole Muslim countries that Muslims build, hahaha, all they can do is to keep killing each other.. Hahaha, after they have killed enough of themselves, the Christians will come to their country and slaughter what is left of the wounded. Haha!!
Muslims are just a useless piece of stinky sh^t, nobody wants them in their country.
One look at the filthy minded , filthy mouthed immigrant posters on this forum, I have to agree with you.
If you leave your country to go to another, logic would lead you to be grateful respectful to the new country , for being good enough to give you a new start.
It doesn't happen with the muslim population....... why ........

No wonder our Canadian friends, are fed up with ungrateful migrants.

We also don't like out right Racism and ancient stupid Hatreds brought to our country.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3VLn_Eaxp_U/UFgUos4...
This is what they are doing here ! appalling.
Aliroger1

Toronto, Canada

#37737 Mar 8, 2013
Serpent wrote:
<quoted text>
Muslims are all scum bags. They are hated wherever they go. They contribute nothing to the western countries that they sneak into. They don't contribute to the countries sports, theater, Olympic Games etc etc. they are not capable of contributing anything meaningful.
Just look at the sh^thole Muslim countries that Muslims build, hahaha, all they can do is to keep killing each other.. Hahaha, after they have killed enough of themselves, the Christians will come to their country and slaughter what is left of the wounded. Haha!!
Muslims are just a useless piece of stinky sh^t, nobody wants them in their country.
THE MAYOR OF CALGARY IS A MUSLIM. SERPANT IS LIVING IN CALGARY

LOLLL

Poor Serpant. The Big Guy in Calgary is Muslim and Serpent is a nobody. Boooohooooo. LOLLLLL
Aliroger1

Toronto, Canada

#37738 Mar 8, 2013
HAJI HUSSAIN OBAMA IS PRESIDENT OF AMERICA, AND COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF!!!

Muslims are everywhere now!!!
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#37739 Mar 8, 2013
Aliroger1 wrote:
HAJI HUSSAIN OBAMA IS PRESIDENT OF AMERICA, AND COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF!!!
Muslims are everywhere now!!!
Muslims are running to Christian countries because Muslim countries are all sh^thole countries.
Muslims can't build sh^t so they look to Christians in western countries to look after them. That's the only way these losers can survive.
Hope you enjoy your stay in Canada, and try to learn something from the Christians because they build great countries and have great cultures!!
Truth

UK

#37740 Mar 8, 2013
Learn to become bankrupt if that's what you mean Lol !
Aliroger1

Toronto, Canada

#37741 Mar 8, 2013
Serpent wrote:
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Muslims are running to Christian countries because Muslim countries are all sh^thole countries.
Muslims can't build sh^t so they look to Christians in western countries to look after them. That's the only way these losers can survive.
Hope you enjoy your stay in Canada, and try to learn something from the Christians because they build great countries and have great cultures!!
HEY SERVANT, YOU SAY YOUR HONOUR TO YOUR MUSLIM MAYOR IN CALGARY, YOU HEAR NOW!!! LOLLLLLL

Poor Servant is enraged that in a meritocracy he loses out to better educated, smarter, harder working and more successful Muslims!!! LOLLL Gotta love to hear Servant whining and whimpering like a little female dog!!! LOLLLL
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#37742 Mar 8, 2013
Biggest joke of the year 2013!!– MUQ

US Spent $ 60 Billion for Iraq Reconstruction
US Spent $ 90 Billion for Afghanistan Reconstruction!!

Too much money spent in Iraq for too few results

http://www.sunherald.com/2013/03/05/4509114/

By LARA JAKES — AP National Security Writer

WASHINGTON —

01. Ten years and $60 billion in American taxpayer funds later, Iraq is still so unstable and broken that even its leaders question whether U.S. efforts to rebuild the war-torn nation were worth the cost.
(bulshitting the whole idea- MUQ)

02. In his final report to Congress, Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction Stuart Bowen's conclusion was all too clear: Since the invasion a decade ago this month, the U.S. has spent too much money in Iraq for too few results.
(meaning they are either too stupid or too lazy or too inefficient, or all of these- MUQ

03. The reconstruction effort "grew to a size much larger than was ever anticipated," Bowen told The Associated Press in a preview of his last audit of U.S. funds spent in Iraq, to be released Wednesday. "Not enough was accomplished for the size of the funds expended."
(reconstruction effort is itself a misnomer, there never was any intention to re-build Iraq – MUQ)

04. In interviews with Bowen, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said the U.S. funding "could have brought great change in Iraq" but fell short too often. "There was misspending of money," said al-Maliki, a Shiite Muslim whose sect makes up about 60 percent of Iraq's population.
(Coming for "closest US ally in Iraq" this is strongest condemnation, no thanks is ever expressed- MUQ)

05. Iraqi Parliament Speaker Osama al-Nujaifi, the country's top Sunni Muslim official, told auditors that the rebuilding efforts "had unfavorable outcomes in general."
(Saying in plain language "US people are stupid" - MUQ)

06. "You think if you throw money at a problem, you can fix it," Kurdish government official Qubad Talabani, son of Iraqi president Jalal Talabani, told auditors. "It was just not strategic thinking."
(In Plain English "it was ill advised and half hearted effort, just to silence their conscious- MUQ)

07. The abysmal Iraq results forecast what could happen in Afghanistan, where U.S. taxpayers have so far spent $90 billion in reconstruction projects during a 12-year military campaign that, for the most part, ends in 2014.
(Afghanistan report would be worse, but ignored easily because the "wound" is still fresh-MUQ
$ 90 Billion spent on Afghanistan re-building in itself is a big joke – MUQ)

08. Shortly after the March 2003 invasion, Congress set up a $2.4 billion fund to help ease the sting of war for Iraqis. It aimed to rebuild Iraq's water and electricity systems; provide food, health care and governance for its people; and take care of those who were forced from their homes in the fighting.

("help ease the sting of War" what a classical use of English language and only 2.4 Billion for it!!- MUQ)

09. Fewer than six months later, President George W. Bush asked for $20 billion more to further stabilize Iraq and help turn it into an ally that could gain economic independence and reap global investments.

(Extra grant almost 1000 % of the original budget, another sign of amateurism- MUQ)



Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#37745 Mar 8, 2013
Aliroger1 wrote:
<quoted text>
THE MAYOR OF CALGARY IS A MUSLIM. SERPANT IS LIVING IN CALGARY
LOLLL
Poor Serpant. The Big Guy in Calgary is Muslim and Serpent is a nobody. Boooohooooo. LOLLLLL
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And your point is?
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When JFK became the first Catholic President in the USA, no one was worried.
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When a black Christian man became president of the USA no one was worried.
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Are you trying to tell us that the first Mayor in Canada is a Muslim that all the Canadian should start worrying?
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Maybe you do have a point there Aliroger1,
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I have a simple solution chop his testicles off.
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Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#37746 Mar 8, 2013
Aliroger1 wrote:
HAJI HUSSAIN OBAMA IS PRESIDENT OF AMERICA, AND COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF!!!
Muslims are everywhere now!!!
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Aliroger1 the sailfish is fabricating lies again.
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Do I have to reel you in check to see if your tag is still attached, pull the hook out, pat you on your head\, and send you along.
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Aliroger1 no one else except you have fabricated lies about Obama.
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Ha the grandiosity disorder kicked in already, after you were told to take the tablets.
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I will say you need a stronger dose.
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Please go easy on Aliroger1, reads what he suffers from >>>
http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/sept2008/...
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Aliroger1 I did tell you, that you be back to bite the hook so that I can play you, and check your tag.

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Aliroger1 knows I am good.
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Aliroger1 will be back with more fabricated lies, readers you just watch this thread, Aliroger1` can not last long with trying to show others how important he is.

Since: Dec 12

Sydney

#37747 Mar 8, 2013
Baron44 wrote:
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Aliroger1 the sailfish is fabricating lies again.
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Do I have to reel you in check to see if your tag is still attached, pull the hook out, pat you on your head\, and send you along.
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Aliroger1 no one else except you have fabricated lies about Obama.
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Ha the grandiosity disorder kicked in already, after you were told to take the tablets.
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I will say you need a stronger dose.
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Please go easy on Aliroger1, reads what he suffers from >>>
http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/sept2008/...
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Aliroger1 I did tell you, that you be back to bite the hook so that I can play you, and check your tag.
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Aliroger1 knows I am good.
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Aliroger1 will be back with more fabricated lies, readers you just watch this thread, Aliroger1` can not last long with trying to show others how important he is.
The only thing he's shown people so far is what a delusional dikhead he is. His only 'degree' is a PHD in "LOL"ing.
lasr

Australia

#37749 Mar 8, 2013
The QUICK FIX IT TEAM wrote:
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What was result when you took the Psychological Testing for Personality Disorders, CASTRATO?
Bet it was THE MALIGNANT PERSONALITY or are you still a Borderline personality disorder (BPD)sufferer?
How's Rosa?
heres more on the founder of islam mohamed from his main biography
ibn ishaq he dont hide the extreme violence and savgery that was the tale of early islam

The oldest extant biography of Muhammad is called the "Sirat Rasulallah" — "Life of the Prophet of Allah". This book was written by Ibn Ishaq, a devout Muslim scholar, and later revised by Ibn Hisham. It was written before any of the major works of Hadith. It is considered the most authentic biography of Muhammad. It was translated into English by A. Guillaume as "The Life of Muhammad".





page 515 reads:



"Kinana al-Rabi, who had the custody of the treasure of Banu Nadir, was brought to the apostle who asked him about it. He denied that he knew where it was. A Jew came (Tabari says "was brought"), to the apostle and said that he had seen Kinana going round a certain ruin every morning early. When the apostle said to Kinana, "Do you know that if we find you have it I shall kill you?" He said "Yes". The apostle gave orders that the ruin was to be excavated and some of the treasure was found. When he asked him about the rest he refused to produce it, so the apostle gave orders to al-Zubayr Al-Awwam, "Torture him until you extract what he has." So he kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until he was nearly dead. Then the apostle delivered him to Muhammad b. Maslama and he struck off his head, in revenge for his brother Mahmud."

this is just one story of the many murders mohammed the founder of islam was involved in
Garth

Australia

#37750 Mar 9, 2013
Whats with the muslin bum thing ?
BashBoris

Australia

#37751 Mar 9, 2013
Baron44 wrote:
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And your point is?
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When JFK became the first Catholic President in the USA, no one was worried.
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When a black Christian man became president of the USA no one was worried.
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Are you trying to tell us that the first Mayor in Canada is a Muslim that all the Canadian should start worrying?
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Maybe you do have a point there Aliroger1,
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I have a simple solution chop his testicles off.
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He's mounted you hard from behind several times you dumb dikhead. you must be Indian, only they can be so stupid LOOOOOOOOLL

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#37752 Mar 9, 2013
Adhamh Shane wrote:
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The only thing he's shown people so far is what a delusional dikhead he is. His only 'degree' is a PHD in "LOL"ing.
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You hit the nail on the head.
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That is why I Play Aliroger1 like a killer whale plays with the catch of a seal.
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Think what I do to poor Aliroger1 when I make an ASS out of h
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I correct his fabricated lies, I bring him back to where real world is, Aliroger1 likes to live in the world of fantasy.`
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The best part is I do not go for the kill, I just play around with Aliroger1 until I tire, I let him go, for the following day, I have him to play with again, that way it is much more fun.
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The problems Muslims have is: The short term memory, nearly every day you can see how Aliroger1 with his 7 degrees keeps coming back for more play with his more intelligent friend The Baron44 who only has 1 degree.
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I like it when Aliroger1 comes back, it gives me something to do, it can get boring here on a 40 foot catamaran.
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As Usual Aliroger1 will be back to get more attention.
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I keep surprising Aliroger1 how good I am.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#37753 Mar 9, 2013
The QUICK FIX IT TEAM wrote:
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What was result when you took the Psychological Testing for Personality Disorders, CASTRATO?
Bet it was THE MALIGNANT PERSONALITY or are you still a Borderline personality disorder (BPD)sufferer?
How's Rosa?
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I had to join the meeting place where all the Muslims meet to be able to get the test done for that was the only place it was held.
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When I took that test I learned a lot.
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That every Muslim male who would like to live in Australia has to put up his testicles on offer, and every Muslim women needs to undergo a irreversible tubal Ligation, that way in less than 100 years there be no Islam in Australia.
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What the Americans and the Canadians do is not my concern.
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"The QUICK FIX IT TEAM"
The man with more than a 100 nick names asking me if I have personality disorder?
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By the way I have figurines of Muhammad for sale made out of compound chocolate at $24 for 12.
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How many would you like?
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Now it is not only Aliroger1 knows I am good, "The QUICK FIX IT TEAM" also knows I am good.
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Allah knows I am good.
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If Muhammad was around he would also have known I am good.
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