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Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

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About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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#37786 Mar 9, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Biggest joke of the year 2013!!- MUQ
Too much money spent in Iraq for too few results
http://www.sunherald.com/2013/03/05/4509114/
By LARA JAKES — AP National Security Writer
20. A $108 million wastewater treatment center in the city of Fallujah, a former al-Qaida stronghold in western Iraq, will have taken eight years longer to build than planned when it is completed in 2014 and will only service 9,000 homes. Iraqi officials must provide an additional $87 million to hook up most of the rest of the city, or 25,000 additional homes.
(How could they build anything in Fallujah with all that killing? Poor US contractors – MUQ)
21. After blowing up the al-Fatah bridge in north-central Iraq during the invasion and severing a crucial oil and gas pipeline, U.S. officials decided to try to rebuild the pipeline under the Tigris River at a cost of $75 million. A geological study predicted the project might fail, and it did: Eventually, the bridge and pipelines were repaired at an additional cost of $29 million.
(First blow the bridge, then try to re-make it and charge it to Iraqis as a Loan- MUQ)
22. A widespread ring of fraud led by a former U.S. Army officer resulted in tens of millions of dollars in kickbacks and the criminal convictions of 22 people connected to government contracts for bottled water and other supplies at the Iraqi reconstruction program's headquarters at Camp Arifjan, Kuwait.
(So every one is corrupt and only waiting for the opportunity – MUQ)
23. In too many cases, Bowen concluded, U.S. officials did not consult with Iraqis closely or deeply enough to determine what reconstruction projects were really needed or, in some cases, wanted.
24. As a result, Iraqis took limited interest in the work, often walking away from half-finished programs, refusing to pay their share, or failing to maintain completed projects once they were handed over.
(How could they communicate with each other? US people knew very little Arabic and Iraqis knew very little English, they talked and talked, but no one understood each other, I next invasion only Arabic speaking soldiers should be sent- MUQ)
Strange how the US bomb the living daylights out of Iraq and then have to rebuild it at more cost of life.
Ali guyot

Australia

#37789 Mar 10, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Strange how the US bomb the living daylights out of Iraq and then have to rebuild it at more cost of life.
Because they can.
West is Akbhar.
West knows best.
Hala rape

Australia

#37790 Mar 10, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
It was stated on another forum that beastiality is allowable within Islam so maybe there are sex crazed people becoming Muslims for the rest of their lives as well.
Non believers have to be tracked down ???
Yes bestiality is supported by the Quran and hadeeth. The only rule is the animal can not ne eaten afterwards.
In halal slaughter of an aminal, the ritual is highly sexualised. The animal is addressed as a person basically that is guilty of being a non believer.(bishamli alluhu akbhar mumbo etc) and then washed, beaten, mutilated and tortured in a pagan ritual of blood sacrifice to Allah (largely copied from the Jews but with the humilation and torture of the living thing added in by the Arabs).
The animal is then killed in a way that prolongs it's consciousness as the Muslims scream, beat, mutilate and 'subjugate' it.
The Muslim's get highly worked up and as thr sadistic erotic bloodletting fantasy ritual unfilds they often attempt, or do in fact 'rape' the animal, attempting intercourse with the goat or sheep or cow is very common.
So in Islam if this happens, then that animals meat is not meant to be eaten.
One of the dirty little secrets of Islam.
Read the Quran, it's all there including this rule and the sexual sadistic blood sacrifice ritual in how every animal killed must be done this way with it's 'blood' devoted to Allah, the animal (or non believer) must be aware and humiliated in every way as it dies.
Video of Islamic slaughter and muslims having sex with animals is available on YouTube and other reference points.
Summary:
Sex with animals is legal and quasi approved in Islam - it's routine and expected as part of the 'subgation'.
The meat is then meant to be put aside for health reasons but usually is not.
Millions of Muslims purchase and ritually slaughter animals in hala killing areas or car parks or outside their houses every day this way.
If a Muslim 'rapes' the animal as part of the bloodlust and violence directed by what is usually a frenzied family mob all with knives and sticks killing & torturing the poor goat or sheep being killed, then all the Muslims turn a blind eye to it and pretend later when they are munching their mutton chops that it was Taqiyya or necessary to turn a blind eye to the fact that the goat was gang raped by many of the Muslim man as it lay dying, bound, throat cut, beaten & broken, being screamed at by a Muslim mob that it was a sinner and was wrong, Allah was the only real god and it's blood will 'please' Allah.
This is Islam, this is how Muslims really behave to any non believer, human or animal.

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#37791 Mar 10, 2013
Hala rape wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes bestiality is supported by the Quran and hadeeth. The only rule is the animal can not ne eaten afterwards.
In halal slaughter of an aminal, the ritual is highly sexualised. The animal is addressed as a person basically that is guilty of being a non believer.(bishamli alluhu akbhar mumbo etc) and then washed, beaten, mutilated and tortured in a pagan ritual of blood sacrifice to Allah (largely copied from the Jews but with the humilation and torture of the living thing added in by the Arabs).
The animal is then killed in a way that prolongs it's consciousness as the Muslims scream, beat, mutilate and 'subjugate' it.
The Muslim's get highly worked up and as thr sadistic erotic bloodletting fantasy ritual unfilds they often attempt, or do in fact 'rape' the animal, attempting intercourse with the goat or sheep or cow is very common.
So in Islam if this happens, then that animals meat is not meant to be eaten.
One of the dirty little secrets of Islam.
Read the Quran, it's all there including this rule and the sexual sadistic blood sacrifice ritual in how every animal killed must be done this way with it's 'blood' devoted to Allah, the animal (or non believer) must be aware and humiliated in every way as it dies.
Video of Islamic slaughter and muslims having sex with animals is available on YouTube and other reference points.
Summary:
Sex with animals is legal and quasi approved in Islam - it's routine and expected as part of the 'subgation'.
The meat is then meant to be put aside for health reasons but usually is not.
Millions of Muslims purchase and ritually slaughter animals in hala killing areas or car parks or outside their houses every day this way.
If a Muslim 'rapes' the animal as part of the bloodlust and violence directed by what is usually a frenzied family mob all with knives and sticks killing & torturing the poor goat or sheep being killed, then all the Muslims turn a blind eye to it and pretend later when they are munching their mutton chops that it was Taqiyya or necessary to turn a blind eye to the fact that the goat was gang raped by many of the Muslim man as it lay dying, bound, throat cut, beaten & broken, being screamed at by a Muslim mob that it was a sinner and was wrong, Allah was the only real god and it's blood will 'please' Allah.
This is Islam, this is how Muslims really behave to any non believer, human or animal.
Thankyou,this is just what the Doctor ordered.

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#37793 Mar 10, 2013
MalbarCACA Controllers wrote:
<quoted text>
That's the penalty for supporting, condoning and loving TOPIX PAID TROLLS/MODERATORS, SPAMMERS, REAL AGITATORS, ANARCHISTs, IDENTITY THIEVES and IMPOSTORS.
Perfect description of you

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#37794 Mar 10, 2013
Hala rape wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes bestiality is supported by the Quran and hadeeth. The only rule is the animal can not ne eaten afterwards.
In halal slaughter of an aminal, the ritual is highly sexualised. The animal is addressed as a person basically that is guilty of being a non believer.(bishamli alluhu akbhar mumbo etc) and then washed, beaten, mutilated and tortured in a pagan ritual of blood sacrifice to Allah (largely copied from the Jews but with the humilation and torture of the living thing added in by the Arabs).
The animal is then killed in a way that prolongs it's consciousness as the Muslims scream, beat, mutilate and 'subjugate' it.
The Muslim's get highly worked up and as thr sadistic erotic bloodletting fantasy ritual unfilds they often attempt, or do in fact 'rape' the animal, attempting intercourse with the goat or sheep or cow is very common.
So in Islam if this happens, then that animals meat is not meant to be eaten.
One of the dirty little secrets of Islam.
Read the Quran, it's all there including this rule and the sexual sadistic blood sacrifice ritual in how every animal killed must be done this way with it's 'blood' devoted to Allah, the animal (or non believer) must be aware and humiliated in every way as it dies.
Video of Islamic slaughter and muslims having sex with animals is available on YouTube and other reference points.
Summary:
Sex with animals is legal and quasi approved in Islam - it's routine and expected as part of the 'subgation'.
The meat is then meant to be put aside for health reasons but usually is not.
Millions of Muslims purchase and ritually slaughter animals in hala killing areas or car parks or outside their houses every day this way.
If a Muslim 'rapes' the animal as part of the bloodlust and violence directed by what is usually a frenzied family mob all with knives and sticks killing & torturing the poor goat or sheep being killed, then all the Muslims turn a blind eye to it and pretend later when they are munching their mutton chops that it was Taqiyya or necessary to turn a blind eye to the fact that the goat was gang raped by many of the Muslim man as it lay dying, bound, throat cut, beaten & broken, being screamed at by a Muslim mob that it was a sinner and was wrong, Allah was the only real god and it's blood will 'please' Allah.
This is Islam, this is how Muslims really behave to any non believer, human or animal.
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You article is full of lies, however yes Muslims do have sex with animals, once any other Muslim finds out the Animal is killed and disposed off, not in the way you are describing it, or the animal is allowed to be sold to others who are not Muslims.
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You are now doing what Aliroger1 does, fabricating lies.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#37795 Mar 10, 2013
Hala rape wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes bestiality is supported by the Quran and hadeeth. The only rule is the animal can not ne eaten afterwards.
In halal slaughter of an aminal, the ritual is highly sexualised. The animal is addressed as a person basically that is guilty of being a non believer.(bishamli alluhu akbhar mumbo etc) and then washed, beaten, mutilated and tortured in a pagan ritual of blood sacrifice to Allah (largely copied from the Jews but with the humilation and torture of the living thing added in by the Arabs).
The animal is then killed in a way that prolongs it's consciousness as the Muslims scream, beat, mutilate and 'subjugate' it.
The Muslim's get highly worked up and as thr sadistic erotic bloodletting fantasy ritual unfilds they often attempt, or do in fact 'rape' the animal, attempting intercourse with the goat or sheep or cow is very common.
So in Islam if this happens, then that animals meat is not meant to be eaten.
One of the dirty little secrets of Islam.
Read the Quran, it's all there including this rule and the sexual sadistic blood sacrifice ritual in how every animal killed must be done this way with it's 'blood' devoted to Allah, the animal (or non believer) must be aware and humiliated in every way as it dies.
Video of Islamic slaughter and muslims having sex with animals is available on YouTube and other reference points.
Summary:
Sex with animals is legal and quasi approved in Islam - it's routine and expected as part of the 'subgation'.
The meat is then meant to be put aside for health reasons but usually is not.
Millions of Muslims purchase and ritually slaughter animals in hala killing areas or car parks or outside their houses every day this way.
If a Muslim 'rapes' the animal as part of the bloodlust and violence directed by what is usually a frenzied family mob all with knives and sticks killing & torturing the poor goat or sheep being killed, then all the Muslims turn a blind eye to it and pretend later when they are munching their mutton chops that it was Taqiyya or necessary to turn a blind eye to the fact that the goat was gang raped by many of the Muslim man as it lay dying, bound, throat cut, beaten & broken, being screamed at by a Muslim mob that it was a sinner and was wrong, Allah was the only real god and it's blood will 'please' Allah.
This is Islam, this is how Muslims really behave to any non believer, human or animal.
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By the way I am not a Muslim, if Anything I want Islam banned from Australia.

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#37797 Mar 10, 2013
MalbarCACA Controllers wrote:
<quoted text>
Too late CASTRATO, the deed is done.
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I told once before.
Do not come and live in Australia
For we will be claiming your testicles in less than 25 years from to-day.
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Lucky for you that the English are so stupid.

Since: Nov 08

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#37799 Mar 10, 2013
MalbarCACA Controllers wrote:
<quoted text>
Hahahaha, CASTRATO we now know you're good - a good Muslim.
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I will swear to you on the Qur'an if you are living in Australia in 25 years time and the law is passed where we are chopping off the testicles of Muslims I will shout very loud Allah Akbar, and that will make the good Muslim that you think I am.

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Since: May 10

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#37800 Mar 10, 2013
Baron44 wrote:
<quoted text>
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You article is full of lies, however yes Muslims do have sex with animals, once any other Muslim finds out the Animal is killed and disposed off, not in the way you are describing it, or the animal is allowed to be sold to others who are not Muslims.
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You are now doing what Aliroger1 does, fabricating lies.
What difference does the Quran say ?

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#37801 Mar 10, 2013
Seeing bestiality is forbidden by law in many countries around the world ,should those who grant it common practise in their homeland be allowed to assimilate into another country with a culture that is totally foreign to that of the host country by their Laws of their Land ?

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#37802 Mar 10, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
What difference does the Quran say ?
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The adulterer and the adulteress, they will be killed not by fabricated narrations and spurious verses such as “The elderly man and woman, if they commit adultery, you shall stone them to death...”,, indeed it will become sacrosanct in their “Mus-haffs”. They will also convert into holy script the other tens of bloodthirsty narrations as well as the juridical rulings (fataawa) that mandate the killing of those who do not offer their prayers and of homosexuals and those engaging in bestiality, that is sex with animals. We then come upon the piece de resistance, the blessed ruling that says,“The ruler has the right, at his discretion, to kill one third of the community to improve the conditions of the other two thirds!!!”

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#37803 Mar 10, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
What difference does the Quran say ?
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It is not the Qur'an.
What many non Muslim do not understand there are 2 books.
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The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: If anyone has sexual intercourse with an animal, kill him and kill it along with him. I (Ikrimah) said: I asked him (Ibn Abbas): What offence can be attributed to the animal/ He replied: I think he (the Prophet) disapproved of its flesh being eaten when such a thing had been done to it.

this hadith says that if anyone has sex with with an animal the man and the animal are to be killed.

but the next hadith says

Book 38, Number 4450:

Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas:
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http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Besti... << read it all here

There is no prescribed punishment for one who has sexual intercourse with an animal.

is there or is there not a punishment for having sex with an animal ?
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Wasam Fukir

Sydney, Australia

#37804 Mar 10, 2013
MalbarCACA Controllers wrote:
<quoted text>
Hahahaha, CASTRATO we now know you're good - a good Muslim.
You have been told, laughing is an insult to Islam, cease this practice.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-435...

Who deemed the embrace as an insult to Islam.

As a matter of fact, Is There Anything that isn't an insult to Islam ?

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Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#37805 Mar 10, 2013
Baron44 wrote:
<quoted text>
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It is not the Qur'an.
What many non Muslim do not understand there are 2 books.
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The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: If anyone has sexual intercourse with an animal, kill him and kill it along with him. I (Ikrimah) said: I asked him (Ibn Abbas): What offence can be attributed to the animal/ He replied: I think he (the Prophet) disapproved of its flesh being eaten when such a thing had been done to it.
this hadith says that if anyone has sex with with an animal the man and the animal are to be killed.
but the next hadith says
Book 38, Number 4450:
Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas:
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http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Besti... << read it all here
There is no prescribed punishment for one who has sexual intercourse with an animal.
is there or is there not a punishment for having sex with an animal ?
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Thanks for the link,it has so much to offer.
Especially same sex and beastiality where it reads about studies carried out.
I am always dubious of studies carried out on subjects like this.
Who really would tell the full truth of themselves to others conducting the questions ?
Have seen this

Australia

#37806 Mar 10, 2013
Baron44 wrote:
<quoted text>
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You article is full of lies, however yes Muslims do have sex with animals, once any other Muslim finds out the Animal is killed and disposed off, not in the way you are describing it, or the animal is allowed to be sold to others who are not Muslims.
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You are now doing what Aliroger1 does,
fabricating lies.
Have seen haal killing of animals by Muslims and how sexually worked up they get on blood lust and torture of the animal - esp the Muslim woman.
Have seen the muslim men caress and talk to and 'touch up' the animal as tho its human just as it's about to be killed, the animal is clearly a proxy for all non believers.
I have seen (in Jordan) the Arabs proxy rape and physically 'rape' the animal as it's about to die , this is a common physiological reaction by humans acting literally like animals themselves supercharged highly sexually charged ritualized bloodlust of halal.
I have seen Muslim men penetrating a dying goat screaming bishmali allahu akbhar (sp) or basically the goat was wrong, worshipped false gods, must die and must know Allah is the only god.
I have seen that meat eaten or sold to others as Muslims also practice Taqiyya to each other. Or else it goes to the meat stall to be sold to the non Muslims.
I have seen the frission of highly sexualised excitement that ripples thru Muslims in a flogging or execution, esp of a Christian (usually in the middle east this is a filipino catholic) and again the rites of blood sacrifice and sexualisation emerge fully in the Muslim crowds behavior, old and young, male or female, the 'sacrifice of non believer blood to allah' is their special event.
Do Muslims have sex with animals ?
Yes and often, but it's usually part of the halal subjugation and sacrifice ritual when emotions and behaviors get carried away.
Do Muslims dispose if this meat as Tainted?
Well if it's the only sheep the family has bought for the next 2 weeks & they have no other then probably not.(the family ritual torture, subgation & slaughter of a goat or sheep is a huge event involving everyone in the ritual and expensive and time consuming). Usually the 'jizzed' bits are washed off or laughed over as like someone who couldn't control themselves.
The Quran allows and gives rules for such bestiality plus what to do about the meat (sell it to non believers...).
The Quran also states a Muslim should not starve or suffer and thus can eat anything in those circumstance : pig (wild boar), tainted or haram, anything.
Baboon44 etc go read the Quran and open your eyes, travel and observe real Muslims esp in the arab world as the true islam. and see what they really do.
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#37807 Mar 10, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you so serious and so bigotted?
I was having fun at the report which might be only for the eyes of President of USA
!!
Oh I'm not bigoted at all!! I'm just expressing the truth about the Muslims in the Middle East.
It is you who has difficulty accepting the truth and the facts so because I express it correctly you don't like it so you are choosing to say that I'm bigoted.

The facts are MUQ is that Christians have build N America in as little as 500 years and have built it to be the most powerful country in the world and also one that most people from all over the world would like to immigrate to.
On the other hand, Muslims have been building countries in the Middle East and after over 2000 years of building, all their countries are all just sh^tholes. Nothing but fighting and killings like a bunch of barbarians in most of these countries and no freedoms for the people. And most Muslim people who live in your countries want to escape and immigrate to western countries.

So for me to say that Muslims can't build sh^t is an accurate statement.
So it's pretty rich of you to call me bigoted when I only express the truth, it just to show how bigoted you really are!!
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#37808 Mar 10, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Strange how the US bomb the living daylights out of Iraq and then have to rebuild it at more cost of life.
Re-building Iraq? That was the biggest Joke of the time!!

They wanted to have a "show off" to the world as to "how much they are doing for a "poor" nation".

Most of the money went to US contractors and US companies.... the whole exercise was amateurish from the very beginning.

Fresh graduates from college with no experience were made in charge to "rule the country, they knew nothing about".

In reality they all should be tried in a court of law and get hefty punishment for ruining the life of a country and its people.

And you say, spending money to re-built Iraq.

They indeed spent money to re-built and upgrade many Prisons including Abu Gharib.

THAT was the money well spent!!
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#37809 Mar 10, 2013
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

On Drugs and Democracy

By Inge Fryklund (Contd.)

The immediate response to potential drug legalization is usually,“Why do you want our children hooked on drugs?!”(The rationales of 1914 are no longer mentioned.) Remember, however, that those campaigning for repeal of Prohibition did not say,“We’re in favor of alcohol-induced family violence.” Or,“Let’s have more alcohol-related carnage on the highways.” People were quite aware of the problems—which continued during Prohibition as before and since. We as a society concluded in 1933, however, that prohibition was an ineffective way of dealing with this particular societal ill, and that illegality created second- and third-order effects that were far worse than the evil that Prohibition was supposed to address.

As with alcohol, we need to be honest with ourselves about the costs and benefits of our social policies and recognize that not all problems have comprehensive or entirely satisfactory solutions. We can only do our best to make decisions that take into consideration all of the costs and benefits of our choices and not pretend that moral crusades are costless. We need to address honestly the morality of foisting upon other countries the violence, corruption, and damage to democracy caused by U.S. drug policies and driven by U.S. demand.

Legalization is the only solution to the problem of Afghan and Latin American violence and corruption—and the less obvious but more insidious problems of poverty, over-incarceration, and the misallocation of public resources within the United States. Only legalization can change the worldwide nexus of drugs and criminality.

Foreign Policy In Focus contributor Inge Fryklund was a Chicago prosecutor during the 1980s. From 2004 to 2012, she spent more than four years in Afghanistan, working with the legal system and with national, provincial, and municipal governments. She is recently returned from Helmand Province, the heart of opium poppy production.

© 2012 Foreign Policy In Focus
Jacko

Kent Town, Australia

#37810 Mar 10, 2013
MUQ I think you should concentrate on improving your own culture, rather than finding fault with others.

http://www.brecorder.com/top-news/108-pakista...

Here's an idea , how about you campaign for Murder free elections ?

And how about you campaign for Murder free Football matches ?

Now wouldn't that be more worthwhile than continually pointing the finger at others ?

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