Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

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About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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MUQ wrote:
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I gave you my reason and my explanation.
Jesus asked his followers to get sword....that is ALSO written in scriptures.
But if you read only that portion and not what is written after that, whose fault is it? Yours or Scriptures?
I said that if some one says some thing wrong to "save his life" (provided in his heart he still believes in Islam), it is OK.
How it could became a "fundamental teaching of Islam"? How can an exception become a rule?
Why you people act so dumb? Is it also a part of "makeup"?
You are using culture to explain Islam whereas it is written as cited here no different to your offering that there is a difference in the explanation of Muhammads political Islam.

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Aliroger1 are you trying to get young boys interested in your homosexual practices?
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Seeing you would like him to mentally Masturbate for you.
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And God spoke all these words, saying,
I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
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Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
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Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
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Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
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Aliroger1 is not weird that God never mentioned that his name was also Allah in any of the Old Testaments books.
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Neither did Jesus in the New Testament ever mentioned that his father's name was Allah?
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Maybe they already knew that Allah was one of the many false God the Arabs worships.
Hence the reason long before the birth of Muhammad, that Muhammad's father had Allah in his name.
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For tribes in Saudi already worshiped a false God called Allah.
Abdullah Was the name given to Muhammad's father at his birth >>>>> meant the “slave of Allah” or servant of Allah.
Who wrote the Old Testament,were it the same operation as it was the mob who wrote the Islamic Quran ?

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Now so many "experts" have spoke about Taqiyya that it is part of Islam and mentioned in Quran and sayings of prophet.
Well , who will listen to the words of a "novice" in presence of the "united decision of these so many experts"
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There is nothing like Taqaiyya and Kitman in Islam. Just to say a few words to save one's life is not a fundamental teaching of Islam. This is
for people who have weak faith. If they speak something wrong to save their and their family member' lives, when threatened with death or dire consequences..... becomes a "normal teaching" of Islam.
And there have been hundreds of thousands of examples where Muslims have died and did not say bad words about Islam and renegaded from
their faith.
So I repeat once again that there is nothing called Taqaiyya in Islam and there is nothing like
Kitmaan in Islam.
Taqaiyya means to speak a lie deliberately to mislead other , which is nothing but lying which is one of Big Sin in Islam
And Kitmaan is to hide their faith and do not tell it to others....this is also highly disliked in Islam.
These are my thoughts as a "Novice"....but since "Experts have already passed their judgment" who will listen to the Novice?
No one in fact!!
Muq / You stand accused of Taqiyya and Kitman.
You demonstrate many examples of outright lies and also avoiding the question to also deceive.
All Muslims are taught to lie.
Islam is based on lies.
The Quran outlines the instructions to all Muslims to lie, as refered to here in the thread in the many sura's, hafeeth, islamic law and examples given.
You lie about Islam just like you lie about honoring jesus - when the fact is all Muslims are trained (sura 4:153/158) to believe Jesus was an imposter that colluded with the Jews and Romans to fake his crucifixion. And that Jesus was the false prophet not muhammad - that's exactly what the Quran says and is what you are taught.
Beats me why you or any other Muslim continue with your amateurish lies and false claims, when the whole of Islam is so patently fake anyway.
The irony of an Indian defending Islam isn't lost either, no Indian ever chose islam by choice.
Not one. They are slaves subjugated into Islam because their parents were weak or were quislings of the mughals. That's the shame of being an Indian Muslem. Slave to Allah and also the Arabs, your destiny is a second class citizen that will never be allowed into an Arab only heaven. Just like you how you have to stay in non Arab quarters, and every Arab has to wash themselves if they come into contact with you.
Not a relgion or an ideology you can be proud of.
Seems to me your trapped like many others in a fake copycat outdated series of superstitions & nonsense.
And as you can't get out of it, your all f.u. abouf that.
So then you think you can score 'allah points' by practicing your taquiyya and kitman on others.

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YOUR MENTAL ONANISM MUST HAVE ENDED IN A CRESCENDO AT THE END OF YOUR POST OF DRIVEL
There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his Messenger!!! Allahu Akbar!!!!
Ha, another ignorant muslim afraid of the truth.
But you use English incorrectly.
Onaism (after the son of Judah) is a better term to describe Muhhamad. Muhhammad was literally the son of an unknown father and betrayed his hosts the Jews. Same as Judah, a soul that betrayed others to the devil (jinns included).
Muhhammad was also well known as a relguous nutter or tosser and a declared mastubator of idols (known as the Sabean) well as a prodigious pedophile and pervert, as well as indulging in sex with animals (yep, read his rulings on that it's ok as long as you dont eat the bits he bukkad).
If you read your quran it's all there in print.
Otherwise I can pull out the relevant sura's for
you ignorant one.
Allah akbhar.
"Allah" means al a Hubal - the original idol imported from Syria in 180ad set up to address al-liah the moon god. This large human idol was a caste off from the syrians who sold it to the Meccans in setting up their religious trade business shortly after Mecca was first established in 150ad. It was known as the lord of the Kaaba -(MUQ still worships this spirit today) and originally stood in the Kaaba ( open area ), then on the roof of the Kaaba shell, and finally inside the Kaaba when it was enclosed in 450ad.
A large red stone human idol with a gilt hand and divinity arrows that Arabs paid tribute to get divinity readings from al-lah. Next to the idol was the large black stone,'proof of al-lah' as moon bits sent from heaven.(later completely destroyed by the quarmations in 930ad along with much of Mecca & the kaaba to try and stop the fake idol worship that Islam had become and still is today. Today's black stone is in fact some unassociated desert gravel later returned for a ransom and glued together in a small patch to try and emulate the original 'moon bits' of al-liar.
Muhhamad foster father (died 2 years before muhhammad was born but used as a proxy to cover up that Muhhamad was born of incest)
was called abdullah or 'slave of allah'
Slave of what.
He was Slave of Hubal or al liah the moon god
of the quraeesh - also known as Sin.
Muhammad cut & paste "Allah" for "Jehovah" in what was known as the proto Quran or Tuba'h's book of rules, a dominant Jewish based Arab sect accomodating the ishmaelite tradition of the Yemenites.
Still with me ignorant one ?
This is Islam , evolved, no miracle, an Arab ethnic apostasy then perverted by muhammad after the Jews rejected him as a heretic in 624ad.

Akbhar means "greater". So does allah (moon, heavens, greater).
So when a Muslim say " Allah akbhar " they are saying nonsense - literally greater greater
Greater than what ?
Well greater, most big biggest biggest of all greater great bigger than..
This phrase must be the ultimate onaism of all !
Almost all Muslims dont even know what Allah or akbhar actually even mean.
It means literally what ever you say our god is greater than that, infinity times greater etc.
Of course the moon has proved to be just a small moon on a small planet on a small solar system in a galaxy of billions -and in fact the moon did not precede or was the centre of the universe, far from it in fact.
So the claim that their moon god Allah was universal and supreme & the 'centre' of everything now looks very illogical and a poor choice.
Alkah is not 'akbhar' at all..
The childlike illogical false claims of the ignorant within Islam. Running around chanting 7th century idol worship slogans without understanding how stupid they literally are.

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... but God took him up bodily....and we also believe that he shall return to earth by the end of time.
You Muslims rubbish the Christian belief in the Holy Trinity as fanciful.

Then you turn around and tell us that God suspended the Laws Of Physics so that The Force of Gravity exactly beneath Jesus was interrupted very selectively allowing Him to rise bodily up an invisible passage of space within which Gravity had no influence.

Which religion's beliefs are less rational? Or are both irrational?

And anyway, from the vantage point of an observer viewing Earth from Space, since our planet floats in a vast empty void which way is objectively "up"?
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The ADELAIDEAN wrote:
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You Muslims rubbish the Christian belief in the Holy Trinity as fanciful.
Then you turn around and tell us that God suspended the Laws Of Physics so that The Force of Gravity exactly beneath Jesus was interrupted very selectively allowing Him to rise bodily up an invisible passage of space within which Gravity had no influence.
Which religion's beliefs are less rational? Or are
both irrational?
And anyway, from the vantage point of an observer viewing Earth from Space, since our
planet floats in a vast empty void which way is objectively "up"?
It's easy.
First it's a metaphor anyway.
But taken literally as you are trying to :)
Christians souls 'ascend' to heaven and the light.
Muslims die in cold lonely graves to a false god
and as their body rots their spirit 'descend' to a hell of jinns and darkness. Islam is the alter ego of purity & enlightment. Islam worships things only seen in the darkness (moon god Hubal, Sabean Venus 'star'(planet), ie a relgion of darkness and fear. Even muhaamad who tried desperately on his death bed to be reaccepted as a Jewish prophet (denied) tried to die as a jew (fake night journey/ascension over jerusalem). So much for Mecca being the earth heaven portal, muhhammad chose not to use that, but the Jewish one instead.
Muhhammad as history tells us died with misgivings and fears about his apostasy ; he died diseased and broken, like a piece of carrion in a cold desert grave and his corrupted soul lost into a hell of his own making.
Muhammads offspring btw were all killed off by nature, thru disease, family genocide, and even a bird pecking out the eyes of one of his progeny !
Shades of the movie the Omen,, where nature and animals instinctively recognize evil in others and act unnaturally to seek to kill it.
Within 2 generations of the death of muhhammad - all his bloodline was murdered, died sickly or waa killed in bizarre circumstances. All of them.
Almost like the hand of god was rooting out this evil that had occurred with the devil talking into the ear of a corrupted Arab who then unleashed
the aposasty of Islam.
Is Islam devil worship and evil?
Undoubtably yes to our human understanding of this. If you saw the images of Hubal and Sin, or read the Quran, it's quite clear it's a relgion of malevolence, fear, lies, and devil (jinn) worship.

It's exactly the false god Yahweh, Moses, Jesus and many others warned about that would come
after them, and should be feared and
annihilated as evil along with it's devil followers.

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It's easy.
First it's a metaphor anyway.
But taken literally as you are trying to :)
Christians souls 'ascend' to heaven and the light.
Muslims die in cold lonely graves to a false god
and as their body rots their spirit 'descend' to a hell of jinns and darkness. Islam is the alter ego of purity & enlightenment. Islam worships things only seen in the darkness (moon god Hubal, Sabean Venus 'star'(planet), ie a relgion of darkness and fear. Even muhammad who tried desperately on his death bed to be re accepted as a Jewish prophet (denied) tried to die as a jew (fake night journey/ascension over Jerusalem). So much for Mecca being the earth heaven portal, muhhammad chose not to use that, but the Jewish one instead.
Muhhammad as history tells us died with misgivings and fears about his apostasy ; he died diseased and broken, like a piece of carrion in a cold desert grave and his corrupted soul lost into a hell of his own making.
Muhammads offspring btw were all killed off by nature, thru disease, family genocide, and even a bird pecking out the eyes of one of his progeny !
Shades of the movie the Omen,, where nature and animals instinctively recognize evil in others and act unnaturally to seek to kill it.
Within 2 generations of the death of muhhammad - all his bloodline was murdered, died sickly or waa killed in bizarre circumstances. All of them.
Almost like the hand of god was rooting out this evil that had occurred with the devil talking into the ear of a corrupted Arab who then unleashed
the apostasy of Islam.
Is Islam devil worship and evil?
Undoubtedly yes to our human understanding of this. If you saw the images of Hubal and Sin, or read the Quran, it's quite clear it's a religion of malevolence, fear, lies, and devil (jinn) worship.
It's exactly the false god Yahweh, Moses, Jesus and many others warned about that would come
after them, and should be feared and
annihilated as evil along with it's devil followers.
It is interesting of history what happened to Muhammad's descendants.
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On Drugs and Democracy

By Inge Fryklund

August 07, 2012 "Information Clearing House" -- The UN Office of Drug Control (UNODC) has thoroughly documented the violence, crime, and corruption linked with the worldwide heroin and opium trade. The U.S. news media report every day on the mayhem and corruption of government officials caused by the drug wars in Mexico, Colombia, and other points south of our border. In Afghanistan, the Taliban tax the opium trade and protect poppy farmers from eradication, fueling the insurgency and our 11-year war.

However, these problems are all consequences of drug prohibition, not of the drugs themselves. In legal terms, drugs are malum prohibitum (wrong because prohibited by law) rather than malum in se (inherently wrong, such as theft or murder). During the U.S. experiment with Prohibition (1920-1933), alcohol was malum prohibitum; as soon as it was legalized, it again became a normal regulated, traded, and taxed consumer product.

We need to rethink our prohibition of drugs. What problem are we trying to solve by making drugs illegal? Have we chosen the most effective and affordable solution? Are the collateral consequences worth it?
We should start with the premise that neither demand for drugs nor the drugs themselves can be eliminated.

UNODC estimates the ultimate street value of drugs originating in southern Afghanistan, primarily Helmand and Kandahar, as $68 billion. Where there is demand, there will be supply. If Afghan supplies were reduced, production would simply move elsewhere—as it did when it moved into Afghanistan in the 1980s after being pushed out of Southeast Asia’s Golden Triangle.
Prohibition of Alcohol

The American experience of Prohibition is instructive.

The U.S. ban on alcohol served primarily to corrupt public officials and endanger the public. Supplying the unabated demand for alcohol required traffickers to pay bribes to police and politicians. As prices increased as a result, cutting quality was one way to keep the retail price down, which resulted in deaths from adulterated products. Moreover, the rise of violent, organized crime during this period—required to move the product and handle disputes within the trade—created criminal organizations that endure to this day.

The Prohibition experiment was relatively short-lived. Part of the impetus for repeal was that Prohibition was not having the intended effect of cutting either alcohol use or the social problems resulting from its abuse (the potential for alcohol tax revenues in the midst of the Great Depression was another factor). Whatever successes the experiment had were outweighed by the costs in corruption and violence, not to mention widespread public cynicism and hypocrisy.

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It is interesting of history what happened to Muhammad's descendants.
He did not have any surviving son, so he did not have any lineage to continue after him.

He had four daughter, but no one survived from his three daughters for next generation, so it was end for them.

However his fourth daughter, Fatima, who was married to his cousin Ali, got Two Sons and one daughter. The sons name were Hasan and Husain and daughter's name was Umm' Kulthhom.

Both Hassan and Husain got many sons and their descendents are in hundreds and thousands and they got dispersed in most countries of the world.

So his descendents (thru his daughter) are very many.

And his spiritual descendents (i.e. those who live and die by his name) are close to 1.5 Billion at the last count and increasing every day. And they belong to every race, every language and every ethnic group!!

This much and more for the person whom Pagans of Makkah taunted as "Abtar" (i.e. one who has no roots to grow) when his last son died!!

Is that not a miracle? What else is a miracle?
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He did not have any surviving son, so he did not have any lineage to continue after him.
He had four daughter, but no one survived from his three daughters for next generation, so it was end for them.
However his fourth daughter, Fatima, who was married to his cousin Ali, got Two Sons and one daughter. The sons name were Hasan and Husain and daughter's name was Umm' Kulthhom.
Both Hassan and Husain got many sons and their descendents are in hundreds and thousands and they got dispersed in most countries of the
world.
So his descendents (thru his daughter) are very many.
And his spiritual descendents (i.e. those who live and die by his name) are close to 1.5 Billion at the last count and increasing every day. And
they belong to every race, every language and every ethnic group!!
This much and more for the person whom
Pagans of Makkah taunted as "Abtar" (i.e. one who has no roots to grow) when his last son died!!
Is that not a miracle? What else is a miracle?
MUQ - more Kitman (lying by omission) and Taqiyya (outright lying).
Fatima was never proved as a legitimate daughter of Muhhamad, leading to Utham being forced to take succession of Islam (leading in turn to the still present Shia v Sunni succession split) AS THE MUSLIMS AT THE TIME believed muhhammad had no legimate heirs..
Ali at first resisted then accepted the ruling that he 'was not of muhammad'.
Ali was then in turn murdered by others WITHIN HIS faction for his weakness.
So facts are according to Muslims AT THE TIME is that muhhammad left no legimate hiers, certainly no sons and the sons of his daughters rejected as not of sufficient bloodline purity.
The Sunnis then decided to elect a leadership rather than perserver with a tainted and clearly genetically damaged bloodline.
The Sunni v Shia split continues today.
Hashimite claims to muhhammad are patently false, and the emir of saud, or now house of saud has absolutely no proof of any bloodline to Muhhamad.
The death of some of Muhammads offspring, esp having their eyes and brains pecked out by birds,, almost has a biblical sense of good v evil with both god & nature recognising & attacking muhhammad's offspring to cleanse evil from the earth.
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NT wrote:
01. Which MUQ are you ?
Is there a numbering system that you wait your turn to clock in to your time slot to talk your Islam with us ?

02. You are using culture to explain Islam whereas it is written as cited here no different to your offering that there is a difference in the explanation of Muhammad political Islam.
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01. I do not have a full time internet connection. I download all the messages in the mornings and then post my replies in the evening.

02. In Islam there are no separation between religion, culture, politics and trade.

Islam is a single system that deals with all these aspects.

It is not a religion in the sense western people use it, it is a way of life.

A way of life that is based on teachings of Quran and sayings and action of Our prophet and his companions..

So the phrase "political Islam" is unknown to Muslims.
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Adeladian wrote:
01. You Muslims rubbish the Christian belief in the Holy Trinity as fanciful.

02. Then you turn around and tell us that God suspended the Laws Of Physics so that The Force of Gravity exactly beneath Jesus was interrupted very selectively allowing Him to rise bodily up an invisible passage of space within which Gravity had no influence.

03. Which religion's beliefs are less rational? Or are both irrational?

04. And anyway, from the vantage point of an observer viewing Earth from Space, since our planet floats in a vast empty void which way is objectively "up"?
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01. Yes we Rubbish the concept of Trinity (Holy or Unholy), because Jesus never taught or believed in it. It was a Pagan concept that crept into Christianity because of that "self appointed 13th Apostle of Jesus Christ" whom people know as St. Paul.

02. We do not explain "how" God took up Jesus into heavens. He is the Creator of Universe and He can get things done the way He wants it.

If you cannot assume that One who moves Galaxies and Stars and Cosmos, CANNOT get His prophet and messenger away from earth, then YOU have a very limited understanding of His powers.

03. I can say that beliefs and teachings of ALL prophets of God were rational and reasonable. But since their followers, inserted their own teachings into it (like Trinity , Divinity and Original Sin, which St. Paul inserted into Christianity)…. So they became unreasonable.

Since teachings of Islam are available in their purest form, so Islam is the ONLY religion on the face of earth now, which has rational and reasonable teachings and beliefs.

04. Which way is Up and which is Down, is known to the Creator of the Universe. You need not have to explain that to Him!!

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He did not have any surviving son, so he did not have any lineage to continue after him.
He had four daughter, but no one survived from his three daughters for next generation, so it was end for them.
However his fourth daughter, Fatima, who was married to his cousin Ali, got Two Sons and one daughter. The sons name were Hasan and Husain and daughter's name was Umm' Kulthhom.
Both Hassan and Husain got many sons and their descendents are in hundreds and thousands and they got dispersed in most countries of the world.
So his descendents (thru his daughter) are very many.
And his spiritual descendents (i.e. those who live and die by his name) are close to 1.5 Billion at the last count and increasing every day. And they belong to every race, every language and every ethnic group!!
This much and more for the person whom Pagans of Markka taunted as "Abtar" (i.e. one who has no roots to grow) when his last son died!!
Is that not a miracle? What else is a miracle?
A miracle is how you explain that Mohammad's descendants led a breeding program that numbered so many .
A few posts back another person said that Mohammad's descendants died off after 2 generations.
Who today can claim direct linage to Mohammed ?
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Who wrote the Old Testament,were it the same operation as it was the mob who wrote the Islamic Quran ?
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You talking to the wrong person.
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Both the OT bible and the Qur'an are full of errors and lies.
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The Hebrew Created God and Man Created the same guy the Muslims call Allah.
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The Christians created Jesus as a 1/2 God.

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He did not have any surviving son, so he did not have any lineage to continue after him.
He had four daughter, but no one survived from his three daughters for next generation, so it was end for them.
However his fourth daughter, Fatima, who was married to his cousin Ali, got Two Sons and one daughter. The sons name were Hasan and Husain and daughter's name was Umm' Kulthhom.
Both Hassan and Husain got many sons and their descendents are in hundreds and thousands and they got dispersed in most countries of the world.
So his descendents (thru his daughter) are very many.
And his spiritual descendents (i.e. those who live and die by his name) are close to 1.5 Billion at the last count and increasing every day. And they belong to every race, every language and every ethnic group!!
This much and more for the person whom Pagans of Makkah taunted as "Abtar" (i.e. one who has no roots to grow) when his last son died!!
Is that not a miracle? What else is a miracle?
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The linage of any Arab culture has always been through the son (male) the reason why the Arabs, say that the Linage is through the son.

The Arab says who knows who the father of the children is, the wife could of had sexs with many men and no one knows for certain what or who the linage is, unlike the Jews the religion Linage goes through through the mother.
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The Jews will tell you of course all this is before DNA.
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One always know who your mother is but the only person who knows who your father is, is your mother.
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When the pagans called Muhammad a Makkah, using your own words. you said they taunted him with Makkah, meaning a man with no roots.
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They were right Muhammad according to the Arab culture he left no roots behind.
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As we all know from reading the Qur'an Aisha had sex with Safwan, and again from the Qur'an we read that Khadija was Fatima's mother and Khadija was a woman who loved sex and had several lovers in her life and several daughter from different men.
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If she was living today we would of called Khadija a merry widow.
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No one has any proof that Fatima is Muhammad's daughter.
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After all Muhammad did die as a Makkah.

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01. I do not have a full time internet connection. I download all the messages in the mornings and then post my replies in the evening.
02. In Islam there are no separation between religion, culture, politics and trade.
Islam is a single system that deals with all these aspects.
It is not a religion in the sense western people use it, it is a way of life.
A way of life that is based on teachings of Quran and sayings and action of Our prophet and his companions..
So the phrase "political Islam" is unknown to Muslims.
Why then is there a difference within Islam that sees some countries following your ancient past in all facets of their lives as you say and others who separate into a secular government that you are all one of the same ?

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MUQ wrote:
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01. Yes we Rubbish the concept of Trinity (Holy or Unholy), because Jesus never taught or believed in it. It was a Pagan concept that crept into Christianity because of that "self appointed 13th Apostle of Jesus Christ" whom people know as St. Paul.
02. We do not explain "how" God took up Jesus into heavens. He is the Creator of Universe and He can get things done the way He wants it.
If you cannot assume that One who moves Galaxies and Stars and Cosmos, CANNOT get His prophet and messenger away from earth, then YOU have a very limited understanding of His powers.
03. I can say that beliefs and teachings of ALL prophets of God were rational and reasonable. But since their followers, inserted their own teachings into it (like Trinity , Divinity and Original Sin, which St. Paul inserted into Christianity)…. So they became unreasonable.
Since teachings of Islam are available in their purest form, so Islam is the ONLY religion on the face of earth now, which has rational and reasonable teachings and beliefs.
04. Which way is Up and which is Down, is known to the Creator of the Universe. You need not have to explain that to Him!!
My point is that there are not one, but TWO events that defy everything that rational observation tells us ... the Trinity, and the Ascension. Christianity subscribes to both, but even Islam subscribes to one of these.

So Islam can hardly lay claim to a monopoly on sane and rational belief.

The ONLY way that solid physical objects (including Human bodies) detach from the ground and ascend without man-made apparatus, is via a spectacular natural event such as a Tornado. And if a Tornado had lifted Jesus aloft then you and I can be sure that THAT would have been enthusiastically reported in Scripture! It was not reported.

Sorry MUQ, but no matter how pious any person may be they cannot legitimately expect to dive for refuge behind the claim that "God can do anything". That is an intellectually lazy cop-out. The Laws of Physics are Universal and utterly uncompromising. NO exceptions to them are EVER made.

The modern version of Jesus' "Ascension" would be StarTrek's "Beam me up, Scotty". Everyone knows that is Science Fiction and will never be anything else, because Laws of Physics simply cannot be harnessed in such a way without destroying the object being 'transported'.

Faith is all very well, but there comes a point where reality comes surging in and cannot be denied.

I agree that many man-made "interpretations" may have over-decorated Scriptures of all religions. But even if all of those aberrations were successfully stripped away, what would be left would still be riddled with fundamental errors. Humanity will not mature until we all face up to that fact, unpleasing though it would be for many of us.

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