Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46740 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#37464 Mar 2, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
There are those in this forum who have proven you wrong in many instances of Islamic history and you cannot prove them wrong, instead you attack them with "your" proof and illogical replies that are not of Islamic history .
Ans.

Talking in hyperbolic, are you?

Who and what replies can be posted to such posts?

Are you wasting your time or mine or both' s?
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#37465 Mar 2, 2013
MUQ Taqiyya 2 of 2 wrote:
Continued 2/2
MUQ is inexperienced and does not represent Islam correctly as a help desk trainee. 
Taqiyya within Islam summary.
Muslims are allowed to lie to unbelievers in order to defeat them. The two forms are:
Taqiyya - Saying something not true. Pitman - Lying by omission. 
 Muslim apologists often quote only a fragment of
 verses or falsely state other religions like the bible with false claims...(yep).
 Muhammad used Taqiyya when he signed a 10 year treaty with the Meccans. He broke the treaty two years later, people in the city who had trusted his word were executed. 
 Muhammad also pretended to seek peace. Ka'b bin al-Ashraf (as noted) and against Usar ibn Zarim, of Banu Nadir tribe, Muhammad killed 30 unarmed men that surrendered to his word   (Ibn Ishaq 981).
 
The reputation of Muslims is of lying and then killing that even those who "accepted Islam" did not feel entirely safe. The fate of the Jadhima is evidence, the unarmed men of the tribe were 
tied up and beheaded - Ibn Ishaq 834 & 837).
Summary.
 From Muhammad to modern muslim statesmen - promises made to non-Muslim are distinctly non-binding in the Muslim mindset.
 Muslims are willing to "slay and be slain for the cause of Allah" (as the Qur'an puts it) by employing Taqiyya to facilitate mass murder.
Taqiyya is a basic structural flaw in Islam that all non Islamic people find hard to accept. 
Almost every other religion has a concept of a 
shared and universal truth , whereas Islam is based on lies, deception and the compulsion to lie to others. 
 MUQ is an ignorant of islam - an indian fake not qualified to be answering questions of Islam
Please do not put so many questions in one post.

ask them one by one.

What you people lack in patience and consistency.

You think that by asking so many questions at one times, might give impression that you have done a deep research on Islam and picked these questions after reading Quran verse by verse and reading all these Islamic books one by one.

While all you did was to "cut and paste" this info from some Anti Islamic site and now you post it to show "how much you know about Islam"?

If you want to be declared as an "expert on Islam".... I would have gladly given you that title!!

If you want answers, please ask them one question at one time.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#37466 Mar 2, 2013
Pork Chop muq wrote:
Ha ha muq - this guy smashed has you again !
He's right, your useless as a muslim if you can't even get your lies right !!!!
If one "expert" judges another "expert"....the result would be as you said.

To judge a "novice" you need a Novice and not an "expert"...and fortunately or unfortunately, there are no novices on this thread, all are experts.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#37467 Mar 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I told you that I am not an answering machine. I answer to questions which I think are fit to answer.
I have been proven wrong many times based on your "assumptions".... and I could be proven wrong because of my insufficient knowledge, because I am not an "expert" and I am not perfect and all knowledgeable.
There is only one who is free from all defects and has infinite knowledge and He is the Creator of this Universe and every thing in it....and He is the one whom most people on these threads deny!!
Who denies that god is as you say ?
Cut out the expert crap it doesn't suit you
MalbarCACA Controllers

Luton, UK

#37468 Mar 2, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Who denies that god is as you say ?
Cut out the expert crap it doesn't suit you
Hahaha.

NOT DELETED.

Nice company you keep Bender:

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/syria/TJJ1OK...
Burwood

Brookvale, Australia

#37469 Mar 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
If one "expert" judges another "expert"....the result would be as you said.
To judge a "novice" you need a Novice and not an "expert"...and fortunately or unfortunately, there are no novices on this thread, all are experts.
Looks like you have been sprung as a liar MUQ.
You said (wrote) that there was no such thing as Taqiyya in Islam,,,(above).
and then someone came back with extensive evidence and facts that there is!(also above)
Quran & hardeeths and Islamic law and examples.
Comprehensively proving you a liar.

Clearly your have been caught out MUQ.
Everything you say is crap or lies and your too chicken to accept the facts about Islam.
Or are you as others say some Indian fake posturing as an Islamist but really an uneducated ignorant fool deliberately bringing shame and dishonor on Islam ??

Whatever it is- you need to apologize for lying to others that know much more than you, and you should also apologize to all other Muslims for bringing shame on them. You are also extremely Ignorant of Islam and clearly have never read the Quran as you repeatedly display your lack of knowledge on the most basic things every true Muslim would know.

MUQ if you act like a fool and others judge you as that then that's your fault not theirs.

Take responsibility boy, you need to apologize to others for your constant lies and deceit, and wasting their time and fess yourself up.

Perhaps your a complete fake, some indian writing absolute babble and not even a Muslim at all..
It does seem that way given the way you're shown your lack of even basic islamic knowledge or facts & history.
"No real Muslim could possibly be that stupid" someone else said. Yep.
MUQ Taqiyya

Brookvale, Australia

#37470 Mar 2, 2013
How did Abraham visit Hagar & ishamel at Mecca in (est) 2,600 bc, when Mecca did not exist in any form whatever until 150 ad?
After all there is extensive historical & archeological evidence that Mecca (and the Kaaba) did not exist in any form, settlement, structure or as a known place in all the many records of the Egyptians, Vedic's, Assyrians, Greeks, Spartans, Romans, Jews, Bedouin, Yemenites, Persians, Nateabeans, etc: all who over this 3,000 year period had conquered, travelled over, recorded and documented the Red Sea coastal areas.
Not one historical or archeolgical scrap of evidence exists to support that mecca exist n any form until 150ad when a geological change provided a water source, and for the first time it was then established as a caravan route stopover, then later settled by the quraeesh.

So the entire basis of Islam Re Abraham, Hagar & ishmael being present in Mecca is a false claim. In fact the jewish records show Hagar & Ishmael were banished to Mt Parahan which is well over 1,000k to the west, and Abraham and the jews had no contact ever with them again, they were outcast (ishamel being a grown man not a child) as untrustworthy non believers.

Unpick Islam on the facts and it's clearly all fake.

The Kaaba (first an open area in Mecca around 180ad and not built as an enclosed structure until 430ad) is another expample of the lies of Islam and it's fake claims to legitimacy.

Or the Quran. Originally a book of rules written by the red sea Jews in conjunction with Tuba'h, the red sea Yemenite dynasty that controlled the area and under which the qureesh lived.
The proto Quran that muhammad stole and then added in fake moon Sabean moon god Hubal~Allah, and Vedic rituals (haj) to appease the locals.

Islam, a fake and manufactured Arabic apostasy
that now has to rely on it's believers to lie and deceive to defend it from the truth about it.

They will all perish as sinners with their falsehoods and false gods.
Kitman MUQ Taqiyya

Brookvale, Australia

#37471 Mar 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Please do not put so many questions in one post.
ask them one by one.
What you people lack in patience and consistency.
You think that by asking so many questions at one times, might give impression that you have done a deep research on Islam and picked these questions after reading Quran verse by verse
and reading all these Islamic books one by one.
While all you did was to "cut and paste" this info from some Anti Islamic site and now you post it to show "how much you know about Islam
If you want to be declared as an "expert on Islam".... I would have gladly given you that title!!
If you want answers, please ask them one
question at one time.
MUQ, the many references to taquiyya including from the Quran itself can't be refuted by you.
The Quran is a miracle right ?(one on many false miracles and idols with Islam).
If it states in the Quran sura's or in hadeeth or in Islamic law re Muslims being allowed to lie, or being encouraged to lie, or forced to lie (Taqiyya or Kitman), then,,, it does..

You can't argue now taqiyya doesn't exist in Islam or the Quran. You don't have any authority to overule what the Quran actually says.
And Facts are it does, sura after sura, ruling after ruling, in law, many examples provided.

So you have been caught out yet again.
Another tacky little Muslim "lying about his lying'.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#37472 Mar 2, 2013
Kitman MUQ Taqiyya wrote:
<quoted text>
MUQ, the many references to taquiyya including from the Quran itself can't be refuted by you.
The Quran is a miracle right ?(one on many false miracles and idols with Islam).
If it states in the Quran sura's or in hadeeth or in Islamic law re Muslims being allowed to lie, or being encouraged to lie, or forced to lie (Taqiyya or Kitman), then,,, it does..
You can't argue now taqiyya doesn't exist in Islam or the Quran. You don't have any authority to overule what the Quran actually says.
And Facts are it does, sura after sura, ruling after ruling, in law, many examples provided.
So you have been caught out yet again.
Another tacky little Muslim "lying about his lying'.
Watch out that MUG doesn't refer to you as an expert,it's his way of denying the truth
MalbarCACA Controllers

Luton, UK

#37473 Mar 2, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
DELETED
No MalbarCACA IMPOSTOR, IDENTITY THIEVES, Gallahs KAKA LIKI idiotic 1 monkey moronic ChokraFAGBOY Pilon Bumchod Indomauritian Balmiki Bhangi BABOON Gaand marau Ghondoos post or discussion will be tolerated.
Giuseppe

Australia

#37474 Mar 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I told you that I am not an answering machine. I answer to questions which I think are fit to answer.
I have been proven wrong many times based on your "assumptions".... and I could be proven wrong because of my insufficient knowledge, because I am not an "expert" and I am not perfect and all knowledgeable.
There is only one who is free from all defects and has infinite knowledge and He is the Creator of this Universe and every thing in it....and He is the one whom most people on these threads deny!!
Do you Believe, Jesus was

* Was one of the mightiest messengers of Allah.

* That he was the Messiah

* That he was conceived miraculously

* That he gave life to the dead with His (Allah’s) permission

* That he healed those born blind and the lepers by His (Allah’s) permission

?

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#37475 Mar 2, 2013
MUQ Taqiyya wrote:
How did Abraham visit Hagar & ishamel at Mecca in (est) 2,600 bc, when Mecca did not exist in any form whatever until 150 ad?
After all there is extensive historical & archeological evidence that Mecca (and the Kaaba) did not exist in any form, settlement, structure or as a known place in all the many records of the Egyptians, Vedic's, Assyrians, Greeks, Spartans, Romans, Jews, Bedouin, Yemenites, Persians, Nateabeans, etc: all who over this 3,000 year period had conquered, travelled over, recorded and documented the Red Sea coastal areas.
Not one historical or archeolgical scrap of evidence exists to support that mecca exist n any form until 150ad when a geological change provided a water source, and for the first time it was then established as a caravan route stopover, then later settled by the quraeesh.
So the entire basis of Islam Re Abraham, Hagar & ishmael being present in Mecca is a false claim. In fact the jewish records show Hagar & Ishmael were banished to Mt Parahan which is well over 1,000k to the west, and Abraham and the jews had no contact ever with them again, they were outcast (ishamel being a grown man not a child) as untrustworthy non believers.
Unpick Islam on the facts and it's clearly all fake.
The Kaaba (first an open area in Mecca around 180ad and not built as an enclosed structure until 430ad) is another expample of the lies of Islam and it's fake claims to legitimacy.
Or the Quran. Originally a book of rules written by the red sea Jews in conjunction with Tuba'h, the red sea Yemenite dynasty that controlled the area and under which the qureesh lived.
The proto Quran that muhammad stole and then added in fake moon Sabean moon god Hubal~Allah, and Vedic rituals (haj) to appease the locals.
Islam, a fake and manufactured Arabic apostasy
that now has to rely on it's believers to lie and deceive to defend it from the truth about it.
They will all perish as sinners with their falsehoods and false gods.
God is telling us this message through us without us being aware of it.
God doesn't need religions to tell us what we need to know to survive because as MUQ says god is almighty and god knows everything so I ask you,why do we need religion ?
MalbarCACA Controllers

Luton, UK

#37476 Mar 2, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
DELETED
No MalbarCACA IMPOSTOR, IDENTITY THIEVES, Gallahs KAKA LIKI idiotic 1 monkey moronic ChokraFAGBOY Pilon Bumchod Indomauritian Balmiki Bhangi BABOON Gaand marau Ghondoos post or discussion will be tolerated.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#37477 Mar 2, 2013
MalbarCACA Controllers wrote:
<quoted text>
No MalbarCACA IMPOSTOR, IDENTITY THIEVES, Gallahs KAKA LIKI idiotic 1 monkey moronic ChokraFAGBOY Pilon Bumchod Indomauritian Balmiki Bhangi BABOON Gaand marau Ghondoos post or discussion will be tolerated.
Reboot
joey supports EDL

Coventry, UK

#37478 Mar 2, 2013
making fun of moslums if priceless

&fe ature=youtu.be&t=1m32s

LOL
Aliroger1

Toronto, Canada

#37479 Mar 2, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Who denies that god is as you say ?
Cut out the expert crap it doesn't suit you
MUQ IS A HUMBLE SCHOLAR, AN EXPERT, while you are a smug, swaggering ignoramous who expects to be taken seriously when you know nothing and take pride in your ignorance. Go Muq!!!!
Aliroger1

Toronto, Canada

#37480 Mar 2, 2013
MUQ Taqiyya wrote:
How did Abraham visit Hagar & ishamel at Mecca in (est) 2,600 bc, when Mecca did not exist in any form whatever until 150 ad?
After all there is extensive historical & archeological evidence that Mecca (and the Kaaba) did not exist in any form, settlement, structure or as a known place in all the many records of the Egyptians, Vedic's, Assyrians, Greeks, Spartans, Romans, Jews, Bedouin, Yemenites, Persians, Nateabeans, etc: all who over this 3,000 year period had conquered, travelled over, recorded and documented the Red Sea coastal areas.
Not one historical or archeolgical scrap of evidence exists to support that mecca exist n any form until 150ad when a geological change provided a water source, and for the first time it was then established as a caravan route stopover, then later settled by the quraeesh.
So the entire basis of Islam Re Abraham, Hagar & ishmael being present in Mecca is a false claim. In fact the jewish records show Hagar & Ishmael were banished to Mt Parahan which is well over 1,000k to the west, and Abraham and the jews had no contact ever with them again, they were outcast (ishamel being a grown man not a child) as untrustworthy non believers.
Unpick Islam on the facts and it's clearly all fake.
The Kaaba (first an open area in Mecca around 180ad and not built as an enclosed structure until 430ad) is another expample of the lies of Islam and it's fake claims to legitimacy.
Or the Quran. Originally a book of rules written by the red sea Jews in conjunction with Tuba'h, the red sea Yemenite dynasty that controlled the area and under which the qureesh lived.
The proto Quran that muhammad stole and then added in fake moon Sabean moon god Hubal~Allah, and Vedic rituals (haj) to appease the locals.
Islam, a fake and manufactured Arabic apostasy
that now has to rely on it's believers to lie and deceive to defend it from the truth about it.
They will all perish as sinners with their falsehoods and false gods.
YOUR MENTAL ONANISM MUST HAVE ENDED IN A CRESCENDO AT THE END OF YOUR POST OF DRIVEL

There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his Messenger!!! Allahu Akbar!!!!
sid

Chermside, Australia

#37481 Mar 2, 2013
Posted in another thread but relevant here.

Have a look at this world IQ rating, there are very few muslim nations with an average IQ above 85, what does that tell you. Almost all of the muslim nations are in the 20 to 80 IQ rating, something to think about???????

70–79 Borderline Deficiency
Mild disability 50–69 Moron
Moderate disability 20–49
Imbecile Severe disability
Below 20 Idiot Profound disability

http://www.photius.com/rankings/national_iq_s...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_reference_cha...
Smelirodger

Sydney, Australia

#37482 Mar 2, 2013
Aliroger1 wrote:
<quoted text>
MUQ IS A HUMBLE SCHOLAR, AN EXPERT, while you are a smug, swaggering ignoramous who expects to be taken seriously when you know nothing and take pride in your ignorance. Go Muq!!!!
Shut up you noisy black swine, Muq doesn't need or want your help, you filthy mouth heathen peasant.

&fe ature=related
Sabinsky

Australia

#37483 Mar 2, 2013
I don't like or trust Muslims as their is always murder associated with their religious practice.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/b...

Hacked ?

Stupid people controlled by evil religious leaders, this should be condemned by the majority of islamic followers, but it's not.

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