Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

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About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.
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you sound like an illegitimate offspring of these gay criminals, can you recognize which one?
Yesterday we learned the real reason for the Pope’s resignation: The Church has been penetrated, at its highest levels, by a homosexual embezzlement ring. According to Dr. Robert Moynihan of Inside the Vatican magazine, a secret report on the homosexual crime ring, and associated blackmail problems, was given to the Pope on December 17. This report, Dr. Moynihan tells us,“overwhelmed his spirit within him” and “made his heart desolate.”(The original source of these revelations, which Dr. Moynihan seemingly confirms, was an article in La Republica.)
Why didn’t the Pope simply fire the malefactors? Apparently, like the criminal banks that are “too big to fail,” the larcenous pederasts in the Church are “too big to fire.” In other words, the Catholic Church has been taken over by an organized crime ring of embezzlers and sexual deviants.
The Catholic Church, the largest and most powerful religious organization on earth, has long seen itself as the moral guardian of the Western world. Despite a long history of scandals, the Church has always retained its status as the source of moral authority for the world’s Catholics, who currently number 1.2 billion.
But Pope Benedict’s resignation - a tacit admission that even the absolute ruler of the church is powerless in the face of the Vatican’s “untouchable” gay crime ring - raises the ancient but always-relevant question: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who will guard the guardians?
I don't support the catholic church or its beliefs so why are you telling me this "news". If the establishment closed down tomorrow I would throw a party. What you have posted is irrelevant to this thread so go and spread your unproven gossip somewhere more relevant and to someone who is interested. Some of us will stay on topic and deal with the scum who are killing innocent people around the world in the name of the false prophet Muhammad

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Qur'an 21:56 "He said,'Nay, your Lord is the Lord of the heavens and earth, He created them and I am a witness to this. I have a plot for your idols and will do something against them after you go away and turn your backs.' So he broke them to pieces,(all) but the biggest of them, that they might turn to it." A second translation says: "Then he reduced them to fragments, all save the chief of them, that haply they might have recourse to it."

This is one of the most incriminating verses in the Qur'an. Muhammad did this very thing. The prophet took the largest of the pagan idols of the Ka'aba - Allah - and promoted it to the exclusion of the others. He broke the smaller rock gods and elevated the Black Stone so that his people "might turn to it." It was as if the early Greeks had broken the statues of Athena, Poseidon, and Hermes so that they could worship the one true god Zeus. How was the biggest idol any more "god" than the other imposters?

While I'll continue to convey Islam’s version of dishonest Abe to illustrate how Muhammad crafted his religious scam, I would be remiss if I didn't credit the prophet with his first miracle. He just pounded a nail into his own coffin.

The Qur'anic story continues with these uninspired words: Qur'an 21:59 "They said,'Who has done this to our alihah (gods)?''He is a mischief-monger.''We heard a youth talk of them called Abraham.''Then bring him before us that he may testify.' They said,'Are you the one who did this?' He said:'No, it was done by the biggest idol! Ask the other idols if they can speak!'...They were utterly shamed and confounded.'You know they do not speak.' He said:'What! Do you then serve besides Allah what brings no profit, nor can harm you?'Fie [?] upon you, and upon the things that you worship besides Allah! Have you no sense.' They said,'Burn him and protect our gods.'" Since Allah never spoke, why didn't that shame Muhammad? And why would the supposed patriarch of monotheistic Islam tell his people that a pagan god smashed lesser idols? Would that not make the idol real? Moreover, the Muhammadized Abraham called a "god" false because it "cannot harm you." The implication is that Allah is real because he's fixated on sadistic torments. That's not good.

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The muslim world is paying the price, for allowing the evil element to infiltrate its religion.
* Daily riots
* Car bombs
* Poverty
* Violence
* legalized child molestation
* Torture
* Racism
* Misery
Denounce evil, not support it. And peace will come to the middle east.

I except the truth and live.
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Iran and Everything Else

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But this isn’t what we ordinary Americans are told. When talking to us, a different tact is taken by U.S. opinion-makers and policymakers. To strike enough fear into the public, our leaders tell us that, like Iraq, Iran "might" develop weapons of mass destruction. And like Iraq, Iran is lead by people who hate America and want to destroy us and Israel. And like Iraq, Iran "might" develop into a regional power leading other nations in the Middle East down the "Hate America" path. So our leaders conclude for us: it might be necessary to
destroy Iran in an all-out aerial war.

It was President George W. Bush who in January 2002 cited Iraq, Iran, and North Korea as an "axis of evil." Iran exports terrorism and "pursues" weapons of mass destruction. Sooner or later this axis would have to be dealt with in the severest way, Bush insisted.

These official threats and jeremiads are intended to leave us with the impression that Iran is not ruled by "good Muslims." The "good Muslims"---as defined by the White House and the State Department---are the reactionary extremists and feudal tyrants who ride high in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, United Arab Emirate, Bahrain, and other countries that provide the United States with military bases, buy large shipments of U.S. arms, vote as Washington wants in the United Nations, enter free trade agreements with the Western capitalist nations, and propagate a wide-open deregulated free-market economy.

The "good Muslims" invite the IMF and the western corporations to come in and help themselves to the country’s land, labor, markets, industry, natural resources and anything else the international plutocracy might desire.

Unlike the "good Muslims," the "bad Muslims" of Iran take an anti-imperialist stance. They try to get out from under the clutches of the U.S. global imperium. For this, Iran may yet pay a heavy price. Think of what has been happening to Iraq, Libya, and now Syria. For its unwillingness to throw itself open to Western corporate pillage, Iran is already being subjected to heavy sanctions imposed by the United States and its allies. Sanctions hurt the ordinary population most of all. Unemployment and poverty increase. The government is unable to maintain human services. The public infrastructure begins to deteriorate and evaporate: privatization by attrition.

Iran has pursued an enriched uranium program, same as any nation has the right to do. The enrichment has been low-level for peaceful use, not the kind necessary for nuclear bombs. Iranian leaders, both secular and theocratic have been explicit about the useless horrors of nuclear weaponry and nuclear war.

Appearing on the Charlie Rose show when he was visiting the USA, Iranian president Ahmadinejad pointed out that nuclear weapons have never saved anyone. The Soviet Union had nuclear weapons; was it saved? he asked. India and Pakistan have nuclear weapons; have they found peace and security? Israel has nuclear weapons: has it found peace and security? And the United States itself has nuclear weapons and nuclear fleets patrolling the world and it seems obsessively preoccupied with being targeted by real or imagined enemies. Ahmadinejad, the wicked one, sounded so much more rational and humane than Hillary Clinton snarling her tough-guy threats at this or that noncompliant nation.
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Hillary clinton needs a break she should appear in porn sucking Nazi Jewish cheap cocks
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Keep your Dirty Filthy Racist Immigrant mouth for your Dirty Filthy Immigrant Colleagues, no wonder you hate filled peasants are despised the world over.
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We can agree (because there is substantial evidence within & outside of islam that concurs..)
that the 'lord of the Kaaba' was originally Hubal the Syrian idol imported to Mecca not long after it's first establishment in 180ad - to which prayers or divinity requests were addressed to Allah via this Idol who then provided by a series of arrows an answer from Allah.
This idol was the 'lord of the Kaaba' you refer to and did not exist (nor did the Kaaba at Mecca) in the old testament. This 'lord of the Kaaba' being the supreme idol at Mecca was removed and replaced muhhammad being allah's (only) messenger according to what you believe.
There is only one 'lord of the Kaaba' in Islam and this is the old Hubal idol of the quareesh.
So what you say jars against every other rule in Islam of no idol worship and only one lord or god.
Q. MUQ - Do you mean that you worship the spirit of the destroyed Hubal idol god, as some abstracted spirit that communicates to and from Allah (that is not Muhammad)?
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I think the answer I gave to another gentleman would suffice to you also. So I reproduce it for your own benefit.

"05. Hubal and other statues and idols in and around Kaaba were not the "original tenants" of the Kaaba so to say.

When Prophet Abraham and Ishmael built Kaaba there were no idols and no Hubals there.

06. So these idols were "illegal tenants" of Kaaba, who were thrown out when prophet restored the Kaaba to its original purity.

07. We are worshipping the "Lord of Kaaba" in spirit and love. Kaaba is our direction of prayer and not our "object of prayer". In Arabic it is called Qibla

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It seems that you are totally confused and do not even know, how to press charges!!
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Hey Muq , your really confusing .
You say you worship a lord of the Ka'ba and then you quote the bible as to why.

Here is the ten commandments.
You contradict 1 and 2, not follow them.

1) I am Lord God Jehovah. Islam Fail.
2) Do not worship any other God. Islam fail.
3) Don't take Jehovah's name in vain. Islam fail.
4) Shabbat/ rest on 7th day. Islam fail.
5) Honor father & mother. Islam..which one?
6) Do not kill. Islam fail.
7) Do not commit adultery. Islam fail, encouraged
8) Do not steal. Islam fail, encouraged.
9) Dont bear false witness(lie).Islam encouraged.
10) Don't covet what is others. Islam fail.

Now getting back to the Lord of the Kaaba.
You admit you worship the lord of the Kaaba.
That's widely known as Hubal the idol of Allah pre-muhaamad, but you deny that also.
You then say as per commandments 1 & 2 above.
So you are saying you worship Jehovah as the 'lord of the kaaba'?
Thats very odd and incorrect.

Jehovah was never in a idol or a structure, in
fact the jewish commandment 2 expressly forbids it as an idol and spirit physical worship that you confess to,('as we circulate we point to not the black stone but we ) worship the Lord of the
kaaba'

The Meccan Kaaba didn't exist at the time of
moses or even Jesus.
Neither did Hubal or Mecca itself.
Jehovah is certainly not a god living inside a 1,600 year old many times rebuilt Meccan stone shed built to house idols by desert Arabs imitating true religious beliefs of others to sell as trade.

Q. So again - what are you worshipping as the
'lord' of the Kaaba as a place/object and why ?
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01. From where you got the word Jehovah? It is nowhere mentioned in the Bible? If it is "mutilation" of the word YHWH , then YHWH and Allah of Arabic are one and the same thing.!!

02. So Islam "pass" in all the tests except having Sabbath on Saturday.

03. But Sabbath was only for Jews and not Non Jews (As St. Paul of Christianity confirmed), so Muslims not following Sabbath on Saturday have no blame.

04. And as jesus said "Son of Man is also the Lord of Sabbath"…..in the same way "Our prophet was also the Lord of Sabbath" and he chose Friday and not Saturday.

05. Hubal and other statues and idols in and around Kaaba were not the "original tenants" of the Kaaba so to say.

When Prophet Abraham and Ishmael built Kaaba there were no idols and no Hubals there.

06. So these idols were "illegal tenants" of Kaaba, who were thrown out when prophet restored the Kaaba to its original purity.

07. We are worshipping the "Lord of Kaaba" in spirit and love. Kaaba is our direction of prayer and not our "object of prayer". In Arabic it is called Qibla.

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It seems that you are totally confused and do not even know, how to press charges!!
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01. From where you got the word Jehovah? It is nowhere mentioned in the Bible? If it is "mutilation" of the word YHWH , then YHWH and Allah of Arabic are one and the same thing.!!
02. So Islam "pass" in all the tests except having Sabbath on Saturday.
03. But Sabbath was only for Jews and not Non Jews (As St. Paul of Christianity confirmed), so Muslims not following Sabbath on Saturday have no blame.
04. And as jesus said "Son of Man is also the Lord of Sabbath"…..in the same way "Our prophet was also the Lord of Sabbath" and he chose Friday and not Saturday.
05. Hubal and other statues and idols in and around Kaaba were not the "original tenants" of the Kaaba so to say.
When Prophet Abraham and Ishmael built Kaaba there were no idols and no Hubals there.
06. So these idols were "illegal tenants" of Kaaba, who were thrown out when prophet restored the Kaaba to its original purity.
07. We are worshipping the "Lord of Kaaba" in spirit and love. Kaaba is our direction of prayer and not our "object of prayer". In Arabic it is called Qibla.
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It seems that you are totally confused and do not even know, how to press charges!!
Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

look above, pathetic nonsense
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01. From where you got the word Jehovah? It is nowhere mentioned in the Bible? If it is "mutilation" of the word YHWH , then YHWH and Allah of Arabic are one and the same thing.!!
02. So Islam "pass" in all the tests except having Sabbath on Saturday.
03. But Sabbath was only for Jews and not Non Jews (As St. Paul of Christianity confirmed), so
Muslims not following Sabbath on Saturday have no blame.
04. And as jesus said "Son of Man is also the Lord of Sabbath"…..in the same way "Our
prophet was also the Lord of Sabbath" and he chose Friday and not Saturday.
05. Hubal and other statues and idols in and around Kaaba were not the "original tenants" of
the Kaaba so to say.
When Prophet Abraham and Ishmael built Kaaba there were no idols and no Hubals there.
06. So these idols were "illegal tenants" of
Kaaba, who were thrown out when prophet restored the Kaaba to its original purity.
07. We are worshipping the "Lord of Kaaba" in spirit and love. Kaaba is our direction of prayer
and not our "object of prayer". In Arabic it is called Qibla.
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It seems that you are totally confused and do not even know, how to press charges!!
MUQ.. As you trash around with your Taqiyya you dig an even bigger hole.
When someone in the west says 'they are confused' it's a polite way of saying that you appear to be a liar but maybe you can explain why. Not that they are confused, but what you are saying is confusing (lies).
Now let's get into this lord of the Kaaba hole you have dug.
Mecca did not exist before 150 ad. A fact with lots of historical and archeolgical evidence.
The Kaaba was first an open air kaaba (180ad) then a raised platform, then a shell, then a cube structure 450 ad.
Hubal was imported from syria in 180 ad and first in the open, then on the platform, then ON TOP of the shell Kaaba and finally inside.
Hubal was used to address and receive messages of divinity from Allah.
The Abrahamic worship at Mecca had been corrupted also to a synthesized Abraham/Hubal sub god.
Never did any quraeeesh directly worship yahweh or Jehovah.
Allah was a moon god with the black stone being his 'bits' or proof of him (but not so much an idol).

So your claims are all lies (Taqiyya).
Abraham, Hagar, Ishmael never went near Mecca because it did not exist 2,600 years before it first came into existence as a trading post once geological changes provided a water source.
The Kaaba at Mecca, was open air 180 ad, then a platform, then a shell, then finally a shed or cube to store idols built in 450ad.
Hubal was imported in 180ad from and always known as the lord of the kaaba, and the idol of Allah. Allah, the moon god of sin and previously of the assyrians.
Allah is not Jehovah or Yahweh, and no amount of posturing or word play can hid that fact.

So skip to current time.
You say Muslims worship the lord of the Kaaba who was eternal..(nope) and hint this is Yahweh and the idol Hubal was just transient.
This is not only shirk in Islam but easily proven as a lie from you.
There was no Mecca or Kaaba or anything prior to Hubal as the idol of Allah from 180ad.
The only lord of the kaaba ever refered to in all Islamic and non islamic history is Hubal.
Yahweh is not the proxy or equivalent of Allah.
Islam breaks nearly every one of Moses commandments from yawheh or Jehovah and is not considered a judaistic variant (it was, but muhammad took it to aposasty & corruption).
And Jehovah was quite specific about NOT being a god of places and objects as 'the lord of the Kaaba' you worship actually is.

So once again : please explain what it is you are worshipping as 'the lord of the kaaba' as it is not able to be a jewish god or variant, and Mecca, the Kaaba and it's lord was only established from 180ad, ie almost 3,000 years after Abraham, zero connection at all.

What is this fake islamic devil spirit you are worshipping as an idol, object and place MUQ ?
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Mutaween in Saudi have been alerted that a Sunni indian guestworker has claimed Allah and Yahweh are the same god.
Israel, Pakistan are on nuclear missile Red Alert and Saudi, Egypt and other major arab nations have moved to full miltary posture - as hundreds of millions of Muslims around the world suddenly realize the cats out of the bag...
Yes, muhammad was a failed Jewish missionary who created a mistaken perversion of judaism
and now all these Muslims will have to become Jews to reach heaven and yahweh according to the proper rules, not Muhammad's fake ones.
Muslims are now racing in their millions to jerusalem to convert to Judaism so they can get some chance to go to heaven.
Wild scenes at Mecca also as millions of Muslims converge on the Kaaba and literally tear it apart as the fake and misleading idol it had become.
These Muslims then will move onto the saudi royal family tearing them from limb to limb as they knew all the time Allah was a false god and islam a perversion.
Yes, the true god Yahweh as revealed by MUQ the Indian messenger, requires the faithfull to be jewish, practice Judaism and seek salvation as a Jew. As Yahweh (the lord of the Kaaba) said famously in his commandments, anyone worshipping something other than me is false..

Mad scenes also at the temple mount as newly converted ex Muslim Jews attack and kill thousands of other Muslims in the centre of jerasulem.
The fake Islam shroud around the Abrahamic rock where issac was nearly sacrificed being torn down by the newly converted Jews of Islam.

"Allah fake, Jehovah Akhbar !" chant the teeming converted Jews of Islam as the jews look on and wonder why it took Islam so long to figure it out...
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MUQ this post is

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory...

I don't like muslims because of the way they treat their own people.

This is what happens when evil infiltrate a religion.
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I don't support the catholic church or its beliefs so why are you telling me this "news". If the establishment closed down tomorrow I would throw a party. What you have posted is irrelevant to this thread so go and spread your unproven gossip somewhere more relevant and to someone who is interested. Some of us will stay on topic and deal with the scum who are killing innocent people around the world in the name of the false prophet Muhammad
Does that mean you are illegitimate offspring of scum that have invaded innocent Muslim countries and are killing their populations, as a neutral observer I have not seen one Muslim country invade gay christian countries, is it possible that you have suffered a stroke and only a part of your lying criminal brain works, were you violated by your father, uncles etc. it seems to be a common trait among convict descendants.

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Iran and Everything Else
By Michael Parenti (Contd.)
But this isn’t what we ordinary Americans are told. When talking to us, a different tact is taken by U.S. opinion-makers and policymakers. To strike enough fear into the public, our leaders tell us that, like Iraq, Iran "might" develop weapons of mass destruction. And like Iraq, Iran is lead by people who hate America and want to destroy us and Israel. And like Iraq, Iran "might" develop into a regional power leading other nations in the Middle East down the "Hate America" path. So our leaders conclude for us: it might be necessary to
destroy Iran in an all-out aerial war.
It was President George W. Bush who in January 2002 cited Iraq, Iran, and North Korea as an "axis of evil." Iran exports terrorism and "pursues" weapons of mass destruction. Sooner or later this axis would have to be dealt with in the severest way, Bush insisted.
These official threats and jeremiads are intended to leave us with the impression that Iran is not ruled by "good Muslims." The "good Muslims"---as defined by the White House and the State Department---are the reactionary extremists and feudal tyrants who ride high in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, United Arab Emirate, Bahrain, and other countries that provide the United States with military bases, buy large shipments of U.S. arms, vote as Washington wants in the United Nations, enter free trade agreements with the Western capitalist nations, and propagate a wide-open deregulated free-market economy.
The "good Muslims" invite the IMF and the western corporations to come in and help themselves to the country’s land, labor, markets, industry, natural resources and anything else the international plutocracy might desire.
Unlike the "good Muslims," the "bad Muslims" of Iran take an anti-imperialist stance. They try to get out from under the clutches of the U.S. global imperium. For this, Iran may yet pay a heavy price. Think of what has been happening to Iraq, Libya, and now Syria. For its unwillingness to throw itself open to Western corporate pillage, Iran is already being subjected to heavy sanctions imposed by the United States and its allies. Sanctions hurt the ordinary population most of all. Unemployment and poverty increase. The government is unable to maintain human services. The public infrastructure begins to deteriorate and evaporate: privatization by attrition.
Iran has pursued an enriched uranium program, same as any nation has the right to do. The enrichment has been low-level for peaceful use, not the kind necessary for nuclear bombs. Iranian leaders, both secular and theocratic have been explicit about the useless horrors of nuclear weaponry and nuclear war.
Appearing on the Charlie Rose show when he was visiting the USA, Iranian president Ahmadinejad pointed out that nuclear weapons have never saved anyone. The Soviet Union had nuclear weapons; was it saved? he asked. India and Pakistan have nuclear weapons; have they found peace and security? Israel has nuclear weapons: has it found peace and security? And the United States itself has nuclear weapons and nuclear fleets patrolling the world and it seems obsessively preoccupied with being targeted by real or imagined enemies. Ahmadinejad, the wicked one, sounded so much more rational and humane than Hillary Clinton snarling her tough-guy threats at this or that noncompliant nation.
Why then do you support Saudi Arabia which wants Iran hit ?

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Does that mean you are illegitimate offspring of scum that have invaded innocent Muslim countries and are killing their populations, as a neutral observer I have not seen one Muslim country invade gay christian countries, is it possible that you have suffered a stroke and only a part of your lying criminal brain works, were you violated by your father, uncles etc. it seems to be a common trait among convict descendants.
Which innocent Muslim countries do you presume ?

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BashBoris wrote:
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Does that mean you are illegitimate offspring of scum that have invaded innocent Muslim countries and are killing their populations, as a neutral observer I have not seen one Muslim country invade gay christian countries, is it possible that you have suffered a stroke and only a part of your lying criminal brain works, were you violated by your father, uncles etc. it seems to be a common trait among convict descendants.
You mob keep going on about Australia's convict past which is a bit of a laugh seeing we are all inmates of a world theory that we have to be controlled by elected representatives and dictators to manage our affairs to the best of their abilities and they fail badly but we get the blame by them increasing charges that pays for our very existence.
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You mob keep going on about Australia's convict past which is a bit of a laugh seeing we are all inmates of a world theory that we have to be controlled by elected representatives and dictators to manage our affairs to the best of their abilities and they fail badly but we get the blame by them increasing charges that pays for our very existence.
What is this gobbledegook here again, are you the Bender needing ESL lessons?

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What is this gobbledegook here again, are you the Bender needing ESL lessons?
Ahh, you must be our ashtray.

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